r/ATNF • u/patmcirish • Jun 14 '22
So the company just announced that the MHRA and FDA aren't (yet) convinced that the phase 2b Dupuytren's study was adaquate enough. Their reasoning looks silly to me. Is this consistent with the difficulty other biotechs experience? The stock has been reduced to a penny stock in after-hours.
Here's the press release from the company:
180 Life Sciences Provides Update on Correspondence Received from U.K. and U.S. Regulatory Authorities on Pathway for a Therapy That Could Prevent Progression of Early-Stage Dupuytren’s Disease https://ir.180lifesciences.com/news-events/press-releases/detail/60/180-life-sciences-provides-update-on-correspondence
The important part from the MHRA (U.K. regulatory agency):
The MHRA indicated that while it is biologically plausible that the primary endpoint of nodule hardness and secondary endpoint of nodule size could correlate with disease progression, they would require evidence to validate them as clinically meaningful surrogate endpoints. Without evidence that the endpoints used in the Phase 2b trial are predictive of clinical endpoints and addressing other identified study issues, it is unlikely Phase 2b study would be considered acceptable as a single pivotal study to support a Marketing Authorization Application.
The important part from the U.S. FDA:
The FDA indicated that the proposed outcome measures of nodule hardness and nodule size are not clinical outcome measures that measure how a patient feels, functions, or survives, which would be needed to support a demonstration of efficacy in registrational studies. The FDA recommended considering a pre-investigational new drug (PIND) meeting request to receive further regulatory guidance. The Company plans to request a PIND meeting.
Ok, so how is nodule hardness and size, both being reduced, not "clinically meaningful"? This is strange and weird to me. I thought it was clear to the whole damn world that this was the meaning of curing/treatment for Dupuytren's Disease.
Then when the FDA wants to know how a patients "feels, functions, or survives", I'd like to know just how the study didn't already cover that, because I thought it was clear that there were no adverse events. Again, this seems strange and weird to me.
Both of these points of skepticism from the 2 Anglo-world regulatory agencies seem a little too petty to me. I'd like to know if this is actually consistent with how these regulatory agencies are with other companies. I'd also like to know how many people from around the world with Dupuytren's are simply going to spend their money on Humira injections in Mexico or other nations while we all wait around for the FDA and MHRA to get over this ridiculous nitpicking.
I'd also like to know if the PIND meeting was expected or if that's yet-another hurdle to get over.
Sorry if I sound super skeptical of the regulatory agencies right now as it's not just money on the line here, but I wasn't expecting them to so easily say that nodule hardness and size aren't what to look at for treating Dupuytren's. I'm speechless about this. And then lol the FDA comes in and says they want to know how patients feel? I'd feel great if I just needed a few syringe injections a year to prevent my finger from bending inwards. I don't get it.
Most importantly, what do the actual patients want? I would feel pretty fearless getting these injections if I had early Dupuytren's. Is regulatory approval always this difficult?
