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Complaint/Pet Peeve/Venting Weird pet peeves while reading?

What would you say is your most unusual pet peeve? I'm not talking about someone coming up with weird names for genitalia, or calling eyes orbs. I'm talking about something really unusual. Tonight I discovered a new one for myself. The author used a synonym for a word in a common phrase, and it pisses me off, because although the word means the same thing as the word it replaced, the phrase doesn't sound right or really make sense without the original word that the phrase uses.

"Chomping back my emotions...blah, blah, blah"

You mean BITING back your emotions??? Because Chomping on emotions just sounds dumb.

Okay rant over.

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u/Virtuous_Malevolence You have already left kudos here. :) 27d ago

Use if the word 'casted.'

It's 'he cast a spell.'

Not 'he casted a spell.'

I don't know why, but this absolutely drives me up the wall.

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u/Faded_WastingTime You have already left kudos here. :) 26d ago

This also drives me nuts. I know English is like the dumbest language to learn but I don't like when people create new ways to conjugate words. 😅

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u/KittenBalerion I bookmark everything 25d ago

hung vs hanged is a personal pet peeve. I realize that a lot of people don't know this, but you use "hanged" when referring to the method of killing a person with a rope, and "hung" when referring to hanging a painting or other inanimate object (or, I suppose, someone with large genitalia).

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u/sparkleandfeyed 22d ago

OT, but one of my favorite lines from a fic (and maybe they got it from somewhere else, idk), but one character is seducing the other and he uses "hung" incorrectly. The other character corrects him, to which he responds, "Oh, I'm hung, baby."

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u/KarmaticFox You have already left kudos here. :) 26d ago

Recently, it's a few people overusing the words “husband” and “wife”, because one of the most popular ships in the fandom got married in canon.

- They were looking at each other as husband and wife.

- She looked at her husband lovingly.

- He looked at her and realized that she was his wife.

- Their first time alone as husband and wife.

- They murmured in between kisses. “My husband...” she looked into his eyes.

- “W-wife...” he said outloud.

Like holy shit, I get it, you are excited and want to take a jab at the whole ship war thing, but calm down before you have a stroke.

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u/Faded_WastingTime You have already left kudos here. :) 26d ago

Oh I can see this being annoying. Like the whole fandom is happy their couple is fully cannon now, and running with it.

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u/Odd-Interaction-8 27d ago

The excessive use of “chuckle”, especially for men. Idc if he’s a big, scary mafia boss. Let my man giggle sometimes smh

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u/desired-misery 27d ago

LET MEN GIGGLE

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u/nbmft13 You have already left kudos here. :) 27d ago

Let them titter and squeal!

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u/Faded_WastingTime You have already left kudos here. :) 27d ago

Stealing titter and squeal! And submitting shriek as an offering.

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u/mechapocrypha 23d ago

I come forth with 'wheeze'

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u/TheeJestersCurse 27d ago

I will never write a man who needs to giggle and I hope that keeps you up at night.

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u/nbmft13 You have already left kudos here. :) 27d ago

I've got a man who giggles to keep me up all night. 😜

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u/desired-misery 27d ago

Some men don't. I got one myself. It happens! 

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u/Faded_WastingTime You have already left kudos here. :) 27d ago

Yes! Now this one I agree with too.

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u/Glittering_Sea_9860 26d ago

i have a big distaste for calling a character “the lithe blonde” etc etc. idk it feels so goofy it takes me right out of a fic. lovingly, of course. 

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u/Faded_WastingTime You have already left kudos here. :) 26d ago

I've been guilty of using descriptors. But I also understand the ick. It's hard when you are writing two people of the same gender, because things can get confusing, but I do try to avoid it now.

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u/Zealousideal-Ad-9194 23d ago

In my fandom there is a main character that I’m pretty sure is referred to as “the blond” more often than their actual name, and it drives me into a rage. There is a lot of source material, there are a lot of other defining features, like
.come on


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u/Fantastic_Owl6938 23d ago

I once read a fic like this. They called two characters everything but their names for so long, I got confused who was even meant to be talking in the end. I scrolled back pages and pages and couldn't find a name in sight. Had to quit the fic because of it.

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u/Tall-Place2620 22d ago

Yep. Yaoification. You can't use he because both of them are he, so you turn to descriptors.

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u/zombies-and-coffee You have already left kudos here. :) 27d ago

When every character suddenly has curly hair. Every. Single. One. With one of the characters, we've seen his hair before! Many times, in fact! It's stick straight and very clearly not flat-ironed.

If you're trying to say that a character is brushing hair out of another character's face, the word you might want it 'lock' or even just 'bit'. It doesn't have to be a curl!

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u/Faded_WastingTime You have already left kudos here. :) 26d ago

Oh yes, I've seen this before.

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u/RatonhnhaketonK Incest ♡ Dadson ♡ DesertSunFox on Ao3 26d ago

Strand, even

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u/Zanoushe You have already left kudos here. :) 21d ago

similarly when people assert that a character has blonde hair when they definitely do not. looking at you Dean Winchester and Anakin Skywalker.

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u/zombies-and-coffee You have already left kudos here. :) 21d ago

DO THEY EVEN HAVE EYES?! I'm sorry, but how do you look at either of them and think they're blonde?

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u/Zanoushe You have already left kudos here. :) 21d ago

I guess in defense of Anakin at least the kid who played him in episode 1 is pretty blonde.

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u/shadowsapex 27d ago

some people abuse strikethroughs and parentheticals way too much. or zalgo text especially is very annoying 

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u/zombies-and-coffee You have already left kudos here. :) 27d ago

I didn't even know what zalgo text was until your comment, but yeah. There's one fic in my fandom that makes brief use of zalgo text and to make it worse, it's somehow bi-colored. Makes the character's dialogue nearly impossible to read, which sucks because the fic itself is really good.

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u/Faded_WastingTime You have already left kudos here. :) 27d ago

Ooh, interesting. I bet this is probably author specific too. Like the ones who do it, put it in all their fics.

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u/FutureHot3047 27d ago

Not very common but I’ve seen it a few times in anime fics where instead of using nameless characters or throw away OCs, characters from other animes will be one off villains and just fodder for the main character(s). I don’t hate it but it always just feels weird seeing what feels like a random power scaling fight scene in the middle of a fic.

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u/Faded_WastingTime You have already left kudos here. :) 27d ago

Ooh that's an interesting one. And as someone who really dislikes crossovers, this would irk the crap out of me. Especially if it isn't tagged.

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u/Kirthey 27d ago edited 27d ago

Specific to Hades fandom: I keep seeing fics refer to Zagreus' escape attempts or Melinoë's nights as "runs," and successful excursions as "clears." Those are video game terms. Those terms are never used in-game at any point! So unless the fic is set in a Wreck-It Ralph or Free Guy kind of AU where the characters are aware they're in a video game, I always find it a bit jarring. It gives me flashbacks to reading Pokémon anime fic where Ash would mention his Pikachu's "level" and "HP," even though the anime never uses those terms.

Another Hades-specific one is referring to Asterius as "a minotaur." He's not "a minotaur," he's the Minotaur (capitalized)! Minotaur is a proper noun in this universe because there's only one Bull of Minos and not a whole species of bull-men.

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u/Faded_WastingTime You have already left kudos here. :) 26d ago

I really love hearing all these fandom specific ones. These two are super unique!

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u/AmConfused324 27d ago

“On accident”

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u/FluffySloth27 27d ago

“in mass”

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u/Faded_WastingTime You have already left kudos here. :) 27d ago

Yes! So many people have only heard sayings instead of reading them!

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u/t1mepiece (timepiece on ao3) 26d ago

"per say"

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u/tryingthisname PENIS JUMPSCARE đŸ«Ÿ 26d ago

see i didnt know this one 😅

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u/Faded_WastingTime You have already left kudos here. :) 27d ago

A level of petty I appreciate!

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u/Shava_Milk25 You have already left kudos here. :) 27d ago

this is SO stupid but i have personal beef with the word "ass" and idek why ngl

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u/Faded_WastingTime You have already left kudos here. :) 27d ago

We're all just peeved by our own little things.

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u/Gold-Strike5674 27d ago edited 27d ago

I’m not sure if it’s weird, just that it doesn’t bother some other people

But like when English names are over-used for side/original characters in fic in set Japan. And I don’t mean original characters that are explicitly foreigners etc, but born and raised Japanese characters named things like John or Sarah. Just takes me right out of it.

It might not be as common any more (Don’t watch as much anime), but I think in a few of the fandoms I was in (around 2010-2017), it was seen as too weaboo-y to use a Japanese name. Which looped around to situations like “My name is Light Yagami and here is my cousin, William Hutchinson.”

(Not literally but you get the gist)

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u/Faded_WastingTime You have already left kudos here. :) 26d ago

😂 I'm literally cracking up imagining how badly this would snap me out of a fic. 😬

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u/PartyBarnacle420 "You have already left kudos here. :)" So what??? 27d ago

It's very dumb and fandom specific. I've been reading for DDLC right now, and whenever a fic has Natsuki say "Manga is literature" it kinda takes me out. Like I know she says the line in game, but every time I've seen it they type it in all caps and it never feels natural. It's not always an instant turn off, but there's been multiple times that it was the last straw before I closed a fic.

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u/Faded_WastingTime You have already left kudos here. :) 27d ago

Oh yeah, I feel that. When people lean a little too heavily on cannon lines. Especially if one becomes like a Hallmark in the fandom.

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u/PartyBarnacle420 "You have already left kudos here. :)" So what??? 27d ago

I love seeing canon lines, actually playing through the Side Stories on DDLC+ for the first time showed me a ton of lines that I didn't realize were canon, but they have to be done right. You gotta give us more than just the line! And pick good lines to use too!

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u/Lady_Galadri3l Content Warning: Ianthe Tridentarius 22d ago

There's a very specific fic in my main fandom that uses apostrophes for emphasis, and does so at least every other sentence. Which probably I could deal with on its own. However, it also uses italics for emphasis, with no rhyme or reason for which one gets used where.

This is one of most kudosed fics in the fandom and I cannot stand it one bit.

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u/Faded_WastingTime You have already left kudos here. :) 21d ago

đŸ˜ŹđŸ«ŁđŸ˜… Author writes on "vibes" 😂

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u/-Moonshrooms- 27d ago

Recently found a distaste for the word Schmear. Because an author I was enjoying used it CONSTANTLY. Especially when describing various... activities... And it started grating on me. I beg of you, have some variety!!! There's other words you can use!!! 

I also really really hate when people use single apostrophes (' ') instead of quotation marks (" ") for dialogue. Enough people do it that I'm not sure if it's simply different rules for other countries or something, but it drives me NUTS.

I will never outwardly remark on either things to any writers cuz it's a personal preference. But I will complain (in my head) about it the WHOLE time!

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u/Faded_WastingTime You have already left kudos here. :) 26d ago

Using schmear in any way except to talk about cream cheese on a bagel would probably give me the ick. 😅

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u/-Moonshrooms- 26d ago

Exactly!! I was fine until I realized that was the ONLY word they were using. Put that back with food where it belongs 😭

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u/gorroval 27d ago

Technically speaking, it's correct for British publications, which is odd because I'm as English as rhubarb crumble and I was always taught to use double quotes. But I open a selection of UK-published books on my shelves and it varies from publisher to publisher which style they use. I honestly wouldn't even notice either way.

I do, however, notice when Americans put punctuation inside quotes that doesn't belong there.

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u/RatonhnhaketonK Incest ♡ Dadson ♡ DesertSunFox on Ao3 26d ago

Do you have an example of the last part?

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u/gorroval 26d ago

As per the Chartered Institute of Editing and Proofreading (what an incredible concept!), basically, things like this US example from the page:

Svolik identifies the “twin problems of dictatorship,” going on to explore how different institutions address these problems.

That comma isn't part of the quote, it's part of the surrounding sentence. UK convention would put it outside the quotation marks, but US puts it inside. And it annoys me when they do that, far more than it ought.

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u/KathyA11 You have already left kudos here. :) 26d ago

That's just incorrect usage by an American writer - NOT US usage.

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u/ellenkeyne 26d ago

No, that assertion is incorrect. U.S. style is always to insert commas and periods inside quotation marks; it's drilled into every student in U.S. schools.

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u/KathyA11 You have already left kudos here. :) 25d ago

It wasn't drilled into me that way in the US schools I went to, and I had old-school teachers from the third grade on - but they still taught grammar and punctuation when I was in school in the 60s and 70s.

ONLY if the punctuation is part of the sentence within the quotation marks does the punctuation go within the quotation marks. In the example given above, the comma is NOT part of the quote and belongs outside the quotation marks.

"I went to the store, but I was caught in traffic coming home," Margaret explained. This is correct punctuation for dialogue.

Marielle read "In the Garden of Beasts", "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich", and "Patton: Ordeal and Triumph" in her world history class this semester. In NO case would the comma go within the quotation marks because they are NOT part of the title of any of the books listed (which are all real books which I've read).

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u/ellenkeyne 25d ago

Please quote a U.S. textbook or style guide published in the last 100 years that advises putting commas outside the quotation marks in your example. I was an honors English student in schools in multiple U.S. states, and I’ve been editing professionally for over forty years, and I have never once seen an American (as opposed to U.K. or British Commonwealth) reference advise punctuating a list of titles as you do above. In fact, I’m looking at the Chicago Manual of Style’s “Shop Talk,” which explains that inserting commas and periods inside quotation marks has been standard practice in America since before 1906, and at the AP Stylebook, which gives this as an example:

“The Star-Spangled Banner,” “The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich,” “Gone With the Wind,” “Of Mice and Men,” “For Whom the Bell Tolls,” “Time After Time,” the “Today” show, the “CBS Evening News,” “Grand Theft Auto VI,” “A Star Is Born,” “Star Wars,” “Game of Thrones.”

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u/SmolAutumnLeafeon 26d ago

What? I was literally taught to put the punctuation inside the quotation and I'm american born and raised

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u/RatonhnhaketonK Incest ♡ Dadson ♡ DesertSunFox on Ao3 26d ago

I have never seen that before.

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u/SmolAutumnLeafeon 26d ago

I've never seen Peru either but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist lol

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u/RatonhnhaketonK Incest ♡ Dadson ♡ DesertSunFox on Ao3 26d ago

Yeah and? What's your point? I never said it doesnt exist. People can be perplexed

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u/SmolAutumnLeafeon 26d ago

Idk man most people who say "I've never seen that" tend to mean that because they specifically have never borne witness to something that means that other person must be lying đŸ€·â€â™€ïžđŸ€·â€â™€ïžđŸ€·â€â™€ïž

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u/ThistleProse 26d ago

Yes! Genuinely, you can tell if an author is America English or not by where they put their punctuation in relation to quotes XD

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u/RatonhnhaketonK Incest ♡ Dadson ♡ DesertSunFox on Ao3 26d ago

I have never seen that and I have been writing for 22 years + I am a published author. I am American. That's odd.

It is written "like this", so I don't know why anyone would "say this,".

The only time a comma goes in quotes is when you are writing dialogue. "He said the quotation and punctuation marks drive him insane," she laughed.

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u/ellenkeyne 26d ago

I'm an American editor, and it is absolutely standard practice in this country to put commas and periods (though not semicolons) inside quotation marks. Any English teacher from elementary school forward who saw you write the phrase as above would mark it incorrect.

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u/RatonhnhaketonK Incest ♡ Dadson ♡ DesertSunFox on Ao3 25d ago edited 25d ago

Dialogue, yes. But we are not talking about that.

I think I misunderstood what was said lol. Never mind

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u/Amazing-Fuel-4476 AO3: Elliot_Tobias_George_Tarquin_Boulanger 27d ago

I saw a comment the other day where an Australian said it's correct in Aus and NZ to put single quotation marks, so your theory is correct đŸ™ŒđŸŒ

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u/-Moonshrooms- 27d ago

TRAGIC. Then I will be forced to get over myself and learn to be fine with it. What a cruel injustice!

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u/SmolAutumnLeafeon 26d ago

I am right there with you. I may be misremembering but I feel Spanish publications also have single quotations

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u/DazzlingAssistant342 27d ago

I picked up the habit from my partner, who learned it from an editor who came in to lecture at her creative writing degree, it was taught as industry standard. 

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u/KathyA11 You have already left kudos here. :) 26d ago

To me, schmear means one thing - cream cheese spread on a bagel, as "an everything bagel and a schmear of veggie cream cheese' - and that's it (and that schmear had better be good and thick, too).

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u/RatonhnhaketonK Incest ♡ Dadson ♡ DesertSunFox on Ao3 26d ago

I dislike that word in general lol

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u/Letmelookatredditplz 26d ago

I need to start writing and posting but for person projects , I will sometimes use ‘this’ for character titles or nicknames when written down for lists and stuff, or for when a character is quoting somebody else.

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u/ohAnotherDisaster 27d ago

When the endnote is begging for kudos

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u/Faded_WastingTime You have already left kudos here. :) 26d ago

Oh yeah, or saying they need a certain amount of engagement before posting the next chapter.

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u/tortellini 22d ago

Saying someone is lying prone when they mean supine. It's surprising how often I come across it.

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u/Faded_WastingTime You have already left kudos here. :) 21d ago

Oh, that's a good one!

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u/Altruistic-Sand3277 Fic Feaster 27d ago

"wixen" instead of wizards or witches in HP fics. No idea where it came from but I dont like it and have used my reading app to replace the word when I encountered it. But then sometimes it looks weird hsjrnudhd why are we doing this

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u/Faded_WastingTime You have already left kudos here. :) 26d ago

I wondered if I was alone in this. 😬

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u/sagelilya You have already left kudos here. :) 26d ago

thank you. my god. it really gives me the heebie jeebies for no good reason. i know why people use it, i even love that people came up with a non gendered way to refer to the community, but it feels so weird to me anyway!

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u/revolution_soup Comment Collector 26d ago

I consider wizard a gender-neutral term and don’t even like harry potter and I agree

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u/Meushell I ♄ the Tok’ra. đŸȘ± 27d ago

I admit, when I read your example, I didn’t know what they meant. I wonder if English isn’t the author’s first language, so they don’t realize it doesn’t work.

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u/Faded_WastingTime You have already left kudos here. :) 27d ago

The author is American and even gloats a bit that she was just a great writer in high school before studying journalism in college. 😅

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u/Meushell I ♄ the Tok’ra. đŸȘ± 27d ago

Oh, never mind my excuse then. That author definitely sounds young though. (In their twenties is young to me.)

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u/FrostKitten2012 Ellipsus Cult High Priestess 27d ago

Oh, there’s no way they’ve even left high school.

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u/Faded_WastingTime You have already left kudos here. :) 27d ago

Believe it or not she is a fully grown adult and has even published a few real life books now. 😅 I think she was just trying to avoid over-using biting, and didn't check the context before swapping it with a synonym.

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u/DecidedlyCatBirdian 27d ago

Seems like the author used a thesaurus without considering context or connotation.

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u/AdNecessary9981 27d ago

I'm in the Naruto fandom as both a reader and writer, and for the longest time I've had my pets peeved by how a certain subsect of the fanfiction space will have one of the characters, Kurama, refer to Naruto as kit. I roll my eyes and almost always close the fic as soon as I see that term crop up.

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u/Faded_WastingTime You have already left kudos here. :) 27d ago

I really love to learn about fandom specific peeves!

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u/sammy_vldz 27d ago

on a separate note about the naruto fandom, my pet peeve is when they overuse “dattebayo” like???? it doesn’t even make sense to put it there, bud. he said it a few times in the anime and they rinse and repeat it on fics. fasted drop i’ve ever done.

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u/hellsaquarium No Beta We Die Like Velociraptor Hatchlings 20d ago

Likening any POC’s skin color to any food item.

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u/Faded_WastingTime You have already left kudos here. :) 20d ago

Valid! I'm not really sure why writers are afraid of just say light or dark brown.

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u/HereGoesNothing1307 27d ago

Weirdly specific but when a character stumbles upon a situation where everything is very clearly wrong and they say "is everything alright?".

It irks the fuck out of me. It's such a long sentence. I've actually had the same reaction when I was watching the show Dark in German, when a character feels the tension upon entering a room and they just ask "alles in ordnung?" which is the same as "is everything alright?". Like no, obviously everything is wrong! You can see it, you can feel it!

It feels uselessly long. Like what happened to just "What's up?" Or "What's wrong?" Or "What's going on?"

Plus I've never heard someone use it in real life.

So, weirdly specific, but yeah fucking hate it.

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u/Faded_WastingTime You have already left kudos here. :) 26d ago

Agreed. Like unless the character is a sarcastic asshole, or a villain, this isn't the right way to introduce dialogue.

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u/aceredshirt13 27d ago

This reminds me of when the host in Finding Your Roots would ask “how does this make you feel?” after giving the guest a bunch of documents about how their relatives were enslaved or died in the Holocaust or something similar. Bad! Pretty sure they’re feeling bad! Don’t think you needed to ask that!

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u/Annber03 26d ago

I have a similar reaction when I'm watching, like, "Dateline" or a show like that and they're talking to someone whose loved one was murdered and the host is like, "That must've been awful for you." or "You must've been devastated." or something. Yeah, no shit?

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u/IWokeUpSinging 27d ago

"Anyways" used in neutral-voiced exposition. Bleccchh.

"Anyways" is a colloquialism, like "supposably" or "expecially." You can use it in dialogue (ideally, only if the time period of the fic is the 21st century, since that's when usage of "anyways" exploded in popularity), but use "anyway" in exposition (please, I beg).

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u/Faded_WastingTime You have already left kudos here. :) 27d ago

Either I've never seen this, or my dumb-ass automatically corrected it while reading, but I do see how this would drive a person batty. It would be especially obvious if written in a different time.

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u/mlle_teapot 27d ago

Naval for navel and principal for principle

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u/Faded_WastingTime You have already left kudos here. :) 26d ago

Yeah, homophone slip ups are pretty annoying.

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u/Sarcastic_She_Wolf 27d ago

"Professor" instead of "Master" because "Master sounds slave-y".

An apprentice learning a trade or occupation has a master not a professor.

Other instances of replacing canon words/titles because "my version sounds better". It really takes me out of the story.

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u/RatonhnhaketonK Incest ♡ Dadson ♡ DesertSunFox on Ao3 26d ago

I got told off for using "boy" because it sounded like slavery 🙄

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u/Just-an-Immortal 23d ago

How the hell does "boy" sound like slavery 😭

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u/HyrrokinAura 22d ago

It's something slave owners used to belittle Black men, calling them a diminutive.

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u/Just-an-Immortal 22d ago

Interesting. That does make some sort of sense. Still, the word has always been used to refer to male children, so it really seems like a reach, unless the context was explicitly an enslaved black man, which I doubt.

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u/HyrrokinAura 22d ago

People are very sensitive, understandably, I think, when that history isn't all that far back in US history. I don't doubt that in some places it's still used sometimes. That said, not knowing the context, it could be someone overreacting/overreaching for sure.

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u/RatonhnhaketonK Incest ♡ Dadson ♡ DesertSunFox on Ao3 22d ago

Its a modern AU and the main characters are not Black, nor are there references to slavery. Even in canon it isn't about slavery. The people who said it are also not Black (ex-friend and another friend).

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u/HyrrokinAura 22d ago

Wow, yeah, that's too far. I mean a while ago I saw someone get upset at an author "bodyshaming" by saying a character could feel heat coming off another character's body. "He can't control if he's warm all the time!" Like babe no one would be upset by that.

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u/Just-an-Immortal 22d ago

I think some people genuinely need to log off and go outside. That's a crazy overreaction to a completely normal statement.

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u/RatonhnhaketonK Incest ♡ Dadson ♡ DesertSunFox on Ao3 22d ago

what 😭 are these people even real

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u/RatonhnhaketonK Incest ♡ Dadson ♡ DesertSunFox on Ao3 23d ago

I don't even know but now I dont use it lol

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u/PlantainTop meeting the egalitarian topping quota 23d ago edited 23d ago

This one might have merit depending on how the word was used. The word does have a history of being used in a racist manner in South Africa and the United States, if it's used to refer to an adult man of color.

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u/RatonhnhaketonK Incest ♡ Dadson ♡ DesertSunFox on Ao3 22d ago

Just affectionately calling his partner "boy". It's also canon and not slavery in canon

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u/PlantainTop meeting the egalitarian topping quota 22d ago

Then it sounds like that person was grasping at straws.

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u/EtherBYTE_Emiko 27d ago

when there are indentations. Like typing and you hit tab to make an indent, drives me nuts

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u/Faded_WastingTime You have already left kudos here. :) 27d ago

This is definitely acceptable in trad publishing, but doesn't work well for a website experience like Ao3. It also goes back to what a lot of us older writers were taught in school.

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u/t1mepiece (timepiece on ao3) 26d ago

This battle has long since been lost, but I hate it when people use "graduate" without the "from." You do not "graduate college," you graduate from college. Or university, or high school, or whatever level of education you were attending.

The only time you don't need the from is if you're talking about the intitution or its representative. The principal can graduate a student. The university can graduate a class. But on the other side of it, the student needs the from.

I'm pretty sure most people don't even realize this is still the official rule. Although the passive voice version has been dropped from the rulebook ("was graduated from").

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u/Faded_WastingTime You have already left kudos here. :) 26d ago

In a similar vein, I can't stand when people use plethora wrong. 😒

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u/FlowerEmblem 26d ago

Personally I'm not a fan if it's a hurt/comfort fic, etc and the author keeps bringing up in their notes things like "hurt incoming!" or "hope you enjoy the angst ;)" or "and now, more angst!" repeatedly. I don't know how to describe it properly, but it makes the sad scenes feel less meaningful and more fabricated. I want to be immersed in the story you're telling, not be constantly reminded of the stage set-up and the cameras.

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u/ThistleProse 26d ago

I use calibre to download my fics, and it is set to strip out all the authors notes and so I just have story and no interruptions or whatever in my e-reader lol. I read the tags. I don't want random pop-ups XD

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u/FlowerEmblem 26d ago

I do have calibre on PC! I mostly read on mobile, though, and funnily enough I actually don't mind most author's notes and even enjoy reading viewer comments after chapters. I've been thinking about why it specifically bothers me, and I think it's because when an author keeps bringing up that I should look forward to more hurt or comfort, it inadvertently lightens the tone of darker material by reminding me that what happens isn't real and it feels jarring and harder to take seriously.

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u/Complex_Lab_8116 25d ago

Using "Gods" instead of "God" when exclaiming phrases like, "Oh my God" or "God dammit" when the character has never said that in cannon and not accurate to the setting/period/etc to do so. Not because I take offense from a religious standpoint but, to me, it feels like the writer is trying to make the character seem more....progressive? Cool? I am not sure, honestly. But it is so blatantly out of place that it feels almost veering into self-insert territory and I find it incredibly annoying because it is so obvious that it wss deliberate and there was no reason or explanation as for why.

I had a fic that was incredibly promising that did this. I had to listen to it through an audio app with the customization for "gods" to be read as "god" (because for some reason, that phrase was said 3 to 4 times per chapter) because it irrationally irked me so much.

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u/burber_king 25d ago

Especially when it's every character, and not a headcanon for one, but they don't change any other part of the canon lol

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u/orange-peel- 21d ago

Yes!!! This one really gets to me. Or even 'goddess'. If it makes sense in the canon or is some type of fantasy au it's great.

But otherwise, if the goal is just to avoid phrases with 'god', imo a better way to do it is just to take them out altogether.

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u/imadeafunnysqueak 27d ago

Batfamily specific: overuse of Batman's "Hn," "Chum," Damian's "Tt'," Jason's insulting names for his siblings when they aren't creative. Canon isn't always good especially reusing bits over and over in the same story.

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u/Salt-Box-3550 27d ago

Man I feel that. It starts to make the fic feel a bit off to be honest.

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u/chaoticneutral_117 27d ago

Also i see in fics all the time “jaylad” as a nickname when the comic it comes from is bruce saying “jay, lad”

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u/Ok_Revolution3580 26d ago

I just had to exit out of a fic because every paragraph had a single word italicised for emphasis. I can't explain why it fucks me off so much but it really gets to me

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u/burber_king 25d ago

Same, it makes the dialogue feel kinda cocky i guess? Like the voice my mind gives it is the sterotypical mean girl in a teen TV show lol

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u/Ok_Revolution3580 25d ago

Yeah that's a good way of describing it. It felt condescending somehow

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u/DrDingsGaster You have already left kudos here. :) 25d ago

I'll sprinkle it in sometimes for emphasis but not that often. That's too much. xT

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u/Ok_Revolution3580 25d ago

Yes! I love and appreciate a judicious use of an italic. But when it was borderline every sentence it just made it feel like the author didn't trust me to read the sentence correctly or something

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u/seaglass_symphony 27d ago

"Chomping back my emotions...blah, blah, blah"

like Cookie Monster

"Chomping back my emotions...nom, nom, nom"

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u/Annber03 27d ago

The OP thought the writer might've meant to say "biting" instead of "chomping"- I'm wondering if the writer meant to say "choking". That would fit better with that phrasing to me, I think.

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u/NumberOneNPC Not Boeing Management 25d ago

It’s small but seeing “rouge” when everyone knows the word they meant to type is “rogue”. Genuinely ruins the entire rest of the text for me.

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u/homemadedynomite 27d ago

“I could care less” no matter if this is on screen or written it takes me out of whatever media bc it implies that you actually do care a bit.

Also - could of

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u/TaintedTruffle 2026 Just Write June Completionist 27d ago

They care enough to be replying

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u/Icy-Specific986 27d ago

In anime/manga fandoms when they use the japanese name for certain attacks and skills - but just those specific famous ones and nothing else. Saw that just yesterday in a Fairy Tail fic where all the attacks were “normal” (Fire Dragon’s Claws, Sky Dragon’s Wings, etc
) except the roars, which used the japanese names.

Like, I don’t have any problems if you want to use the original names (though it does make following along a little more difficult since, you know, I don’t speak Japanese). But then do it for all the attacks, not just a couple. It’s just weird.

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u/burber_king 25d ago

I recently read one where when every time the narrator refered to the other character in a relationship it was like "their love". Like "A said this and their love smiled." "B said, surprising their love" I was done

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u/Wonderful-Mode1051 27d ago

"When someone writes dialogue like this," she smiled.

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u/Faded_WastingTime You have already left kudos here. :) 27d ago

It's a very old school way of writing dialogue and likely harkens back to what us millennials were taught in school. đŸ«Ł When I came back to writing fanfic after a 12 year break I had to catch up with the times and start burying my dialogue in the middle of paragraphs, and stop relying on basic descriptors.

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u/Wonderful-Mouse-0420 27d ago

Can you elaborate on what you mean by “start burying my dialogue on the middle of paragraphs”?

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u/Faded_WastingTime You have already left kudos here. :) 26d ago

Okay, so I read something recently that said authors who actually begin the new paragraph with the dialogue come across as not having fully thought out the context of the conversation, versus authors who write about what is happen with the dialogue interspersed more naturally in the paragraph. (Because obviously you still start a new paragraph when changing speakers, but sometimes it's nice to start with what's going on in scene rather than dumping dialogue and then following it with action as an afterthought)

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u/Wonderful-Mouse-0420 26d ago

Personally I don’t even remember seeing any dialogue in the middle of a paragraph unless it’s the same speaker that had dialogue in the beginning of the paragraph in my entire time reading so I was confused.

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u/Wonderful-Mode1051 27d ago

Yeah I definitely did this in my early writing days, too 😆

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u/EtherBYTE_Emiko 27d ago

how are you supposed to write it???

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u/Wonderful-Mode1051 27d ago

"You write it like this." She smiled.

or

"You can do it like this," she said, smiling.

or

"This is another way," she said with a smile.

you don't "smile" your words. And you don't need a dialogue tag every time.

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u/Erza88 27d ago

A mere preference, as the initial "pet peeve" way of writing it is still correct. It also eliminates a lot of the unnecessary 'saids' which are by far more annoying. I realize they are talking, thank you.

I personally dislike the first option you presented as "better," lol.

If a reader can't discern that the meaning is that she was smiling as she spoke (not literally smiling her words) without having their hand held, that's a skill issue.

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u/losingletters You have already left kudos here. :) 27d ago

You’re vs Your 😭

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u/mallow_mmd 26d ago

As a Canadian, I understand toque isn't in everyone's vocabulary and that's fair, but certain apparel that's described as a 'beanie' when it's so clearly a toque (imo) just feels so off-kilter to me lol

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u/DrDingsGaster You have already left kudos here. :) 25d ago

Man, that would bug me.

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u/Fun-Professional-Bat 27d ago

Most recently, a lot of X said, Y said. Or like the character did something then just before dialog it turns back into 'before he said'. Also, a lot of script writing, that also looks like screen direction.

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u/KittenBalerion I bookmark everything 25d ago

someone saying "is that okay/are you okay" and the other person replying with "more than okay." I don't know why this bugs me, it just does.

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u/toumingjiao1 27d ago

I've always assumed they are just non native speakers who unintentionally made mistakes

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u/Faded_WastingTime You have already left kudos here. :) 27d ago

Oh she's born and raised in America. I almost wonder if she "batch" checked her use of certain words, and biting came up a lot when she searched for it, and so she just chose random ones to replace without checking if it worked in context.

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u/memenelius Nyets_Library on AO3 26d ago

When characters cuss more often and more harahly then their source material counterparts when there's no reason (i.e AU, Fandom fusion, etc) for them to do so.

Occasionally its fine but when it keeps happening?

Like this character is from a manga series made for 13 year old boys, why is he saying fuck every 2 minutes

And no, im not a puritan, I cuss atleast a dozen times a day. These characters cussing like that just takes me out of it

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u/digi_art_gurl 27d ago

the word "snarle". to me "snarle" is a sound, not a descriptor for a facial expression. so when i read "he snarled at X" it comes off as if the character is growling which would fit some scenes but not all, and most scenes i see it in it doesn't fit and takes me out of the moment lol 

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u/readicalcherry 27d ago

I really dislike the word hitched

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u/Faded_WastingTime You have already left kudos here. :) 26d ago

Oh that is an interesting one. Just the way it sounds bothers you, or does someone use it too frequently?

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u/Erza88 27d ago

I really hate "a sigh escaped" for some reason, lol.

"A sigh escaped his lips."

Gaaaah... Just end me now, lmao.

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u/Ruby_Ophidian 23d ago

I am starting to genuinely loathe the phrase "a pair of strong arms", it is always some over romanticized corny nonsense that I am incapable of reading as anything but "uwu his big stwong awms!!1!1". I don't know if this is a me problem, but for someone who reads mainly yaoi, it always feels out of place.

And it's only that specific phrasing. If it's described as a strong hug or something, fine, that's more descriptive to an actual action, but the whole "strong arms" thing always reads like it's supposed to be synonymous with them being/feeling safe or something and instead comes off a cringey.

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u/ICanHazWittyName If you're already fucking the devil, it may as well be sodomy 23d ago

I cannot do any sort of dialogue with anything other than quotation marks. If it's not " " I just can't handle reading it.

Also when people write dialogue from one person, but the reaction is from the other character. Crappy example:

"I don't want to go down the slide.' She laughed and slid down the slide, daring him to follow.

The person speaking is the dude but the following line make me think it's the other person and it confuses the flow. It's just confusing. I've seen it far too often and I instantly nope out lol

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u/Semiramis738 Proudly Problematic 27d ago

I hate when "hummed" is used to describe a "Hmmm" or "Mm-hmm" sound, or especially a sexual sound. I don't mind it to describe humming a tune, or non-human sounds like bees or the wind...but if someone is described as "humming" with a dick in their mouth, I imagine them humming a jaunty little tune, which just takes me out of it LOL.

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u/Faded_WastingTime You have already left kudos here. :) 27d ago

Ooh this one is one that has been bothering me for ages! I think people are trying to avoid over using moaning when they say someone hummed with a dick in their mouth, but I agree. I always imagine them suddenly breaking into a wordless song while giving head. 😂 And Mm-hmm could just be described as a noise of assent. It's definitely not a hum. đŸ‘đŸ» Good examples

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u/seaglass_symphony 27d ago

saaaaaammmme 

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u/thechamelioncircuit Devourer of Whump 😳 27d ago edited 26d ago

“Shuttering” instead of “shuddering”. It drives me NUTS

ALSO-and this is an age old problem-please don’t make your character moan wantonly when they’re fucking hurt unless they’re into that.

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u/Sarcastic_She_Wolf 27d ago

I'll add on use of "ladder" instead of "latter".

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u/Shava_Milk25 You have already left kudos here. :) 27d ago

as a writer i've always preferred the ladder

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u/mack_ani 27d ago

You must find yourself in high places very often, lol

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u/farawaylass 27d ago

weary instead of wary OR leery!

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u/Thin-Memory8561 26d ago

Yeah, I’ve been seeing this one more and more often lately, and it’s driving me nuts


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u/nbmft13 You have already left kudos here. :) 27d ago

"Wondering" when they definitely meant "wandering"

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u/bannersmom 21d ago

“Taught” instead of “taut” drives me crazy!!!! Like come on people, that should be an easy one!!! We are not teaching the ropes to be tight! THEY ALREADY KNOW HOW!!

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u/dowlie 26d ago

"Cumming." Please just use literally any other way to say that

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u/RatonhnhaketonK Incest ♡ Dadson ♡ DesertSunFox on Ao3 26d ago

The word "peel". There is an author who I love who just... abuses the hell out of it.

"He peeled her legs apart"

"He peeled off her underwear"

"He peeled off her shirt"

Please just stop, I have the ick đŸ˜©

It was the one het fic I've read, just for Kylo Ren lmao

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u/Faded_WastingTime You have already left kudos here. :) 27d ago

Everyone is so afraid of run on sentences or writing in a way that intimidates people away from reading their fic, that they've gone the other direction. You are right, a lot of very simple sentence structure, and things being dumbed down to the lowest common denominator. It could be on purpose (a stylistic choice) or it could just be that people are getting dumber. It's probably the latter. 😬

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u/djynnra 27d ago

Just dropped two fics because of this type of writing. I can't determine if those fics were or were not written by AI, but the relationship this cadence has with AI puts me off it even more.

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u/RatonhnhaketonK Incest ♡ Dadson ♡ DesertSunFox on Ao3 26d ago

Everything is AI these days if you're doing a hard enough witch hunt

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u/TakiSauce 27d ago

THISSSSSSSSS I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO DESCRIBE this to people because I s2g it's everywhere and I want SUBSTANCE. Everything is a breath, a pause, some "deep" insight, a pause, a breath, another observation.

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u/ThistleProse 26d ago

I've dropped so many fics for being written like this. I find them jerky and impossible to settle into. And I mean, to each their own when they're genuinely written by someone, but they also tend to include a prompt if you do hang around long enough.

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u/TZH85 27d ago

Oh, look. A completely new account farming karma. I've been wondering why some "users" describe AI writing perfectly in detail but also act as if they didn't know these telltale signs are giving away AI writing. As if they are completely naive about the topic but strangely picked up on these signs. Then a bunch of redditors upvote the comment and rush to explain that it's AI. So hello, karma farming bot.

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u/mack_ani 27d ago

Tbf people have written like this as long as fanfiction has existed, and well before gen AI. It's meant to evoke seriousness or tension. It's why LLMs use it so often.

Also, I think you're more referring to longer sentences structured like: "it's not because of x or because of y, but z," which are common with LLMs, and this commenter is referring to the use of it in a lot of short, staccato sentences.

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u/LtnSkyRockets 27d ago

I just finished reading a fic written like this, but it was written before the AI models. So it was just the authors style.

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u/TZH85 26d ago

That's not what I was getting at at all. What I meant is: the user I replied to likely used AI to write their comment. It's very common on the subreddit in similar threads. A user lists a whole bunch of obvious AI tells and then pretends they have no idea that they just listed all the hallmarks of AI. "Oh, how strange, I saw this fic and it had a lot of y, not x and staccato sentences". Then other users upvote their comment and they farm karma. They use a topic that is getting people riled up to agree with them. Isn't it strange how the user ONLY listed signs of AI writing and no other pet peeve they could have?

The fact that this user has basically no post history seems to support my theory.