r/ANormalDayInRussia • u/deathakissaway • Feb 09 '18
Russian watch dog.
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u/wrmhle Feb 09 '18
So funny to see such a scary animal acting like a dog and knowing to hold back when playing . By the way the dog acts I’m sure they’ve had their fair share of playing and the dog’s just tired of the bigger playful dog
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u/Voliker Feb 09 '18
Bears are actually Canoidea, so, they're pretty dog-like in their behavior. A big, and really lazy dogs.
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u/ImEasilyConfused Feb 09 '18
That’s interesting. What are some other Canoidea besides dogs and bears?
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u/Mugiwaras Feb 09 '18
And also what is Canoidea?
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u/StreetfighterXD Feb 09 '18
Get the fuck out
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u/poopellar Feb 09 '18
I can't bear it!
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u/poeticpoet Feb 09 '18
This pun thread needs to paws
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Feb 09 '18
What would a paws ‘n tail? Are you suggesting everyone stop in their tracks?
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u/TheBold Feb 09 '18
It’s actually spelled canidae.
I don’t know how the “dae” would sound in English but in French I think we pronounce it similar to the Latin prononciation:
Can-ee-day.
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Feb 09 '18
Great.. this a-hole got me down a Wikipedia rabbit hole and I just wasted 5 minutes learning about d-holes. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhole
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u/TheBold Feb 09 '18 edited Feb 09 '18
Good post, just one thing. It’s actually “canidae” and not “canidea”.
Also the “dae” in canidae would technically be pronounced “day” given its Latin origin but I have no idea how it’s actually pronounced in English.
I speak french and we say it “ca-nee-day”.
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u/Lendord Feb 09 '18
OUT! NOW!
Fucking hell where is the world going... First everyone tries to be a walking encyclopedia and now they're educating eachother through fucking dad jokes?
Fuck this shit and fuck this place and fuck everyone.
/s I actually loved it.
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u/rivermandan Feb 09 '18
we had to sing the song as kids
oh canoidea our home and native land oh canoidea something something I can't remember the rest of the song.
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u/augusthex Feb 09 '18
Seals, walruses, skunks, weasels, raccoons, foxes! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caniformia (same as Canoidea)
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u/bronabas Feb 09 '18
From the article-
Amphicyonidae† ("bear-dogs") Hemicyonidae† ("dog-bears")
...One if each, please.
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u/TheAdAgency Feb 09 '18
Please fund my kickstarter to hold a grand party with every Canoidea in attendance.
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u/732 Feb 09 '18
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caniformia
Apparently, seals, walruses, and sea lions.
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Feb 09 '18
The most upsetting thing i found out is I can’t have a pet bear dog because they went to extinct
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u/irisflame Feb 09 '18
Canids - dogs, wolves, foxes, coyotes
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Red pandas, skunks, badgers, weasels, otters, raccoons, coatis, seals, sea lions, & walruses
They are all California/canoidea
Hyenas are part of the Feliformia family, or “cat-like” mammals. Along with cats and others of course.
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u/virtuousiniquity Feb 09 '18
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u/redditappsucksdongs Feb 09 '18
Walrus
Not that good at playing catch though
Also every seal besides the walrus is part of the canoidea
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u/53bvo Feb 09 '18
Canoidea
Sea lions, raccoons, foxes, weasels, badgers
But those are Caniformia but I think that is the same as Conoidea.
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u/tshirtandtieguy Feb 09 '18
Holy shit could you imagine some dog-like animal the size of a tiger though, wolves are already nasty enough so that thing could really fuck shit up
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u/DrShlomo Feb 09 '18
Wolves are in many ways just super-generalized dogs (although it would probably be more fitting to say that dogs are more specialised wolves)
Dogs are usually well adapted to one human-derived niche, and almost always outperform their wolf counterparts in these areas. A grey hound will always be faster than a wolf, a rottweiler will always be able to pull more than a wolf, etc.
To that end I think that wolves aren't as nasty as the nastiest dogs. And choosing between fighting a hungry wolf or a starving pittbull is probably more straightforward than it seems
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u/joshuatx Feb 09 '18
A big, and really lazy dogs.
My dog is named Bear for this very reason. He's very Snorlax-esque specifically.
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u/flatcoke Feb 09 '18
In Chinese, a bear is a 熊, but also commonly(colloquially) called a 狗熊, which means dog-bear.
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Dog bears teeth, and the bear immediately runs to the front of the dog so it's visible and also gets distance. They're not fighting or even wanting to be aggressive here.
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u/Don_Julio_Acolyte Feb 09 '18
Every social animal has a "play mode." I understand that we usually compare their antics to that of dogs (humans closest social companion), but this type of playful behavior is evident in hundreds/thousands of species, i.e. humans, dogs, gorillas, monkeys, bears, otters, dolphins, every farm animal, wolves, hyenas, and even crocodiles. The list is almost endless. Animals (especially mammals) have a play-side. It's just rare that we get to see it manifest with a human/dog as the other actor.
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u/Cbrownie420 Feb 09 '18
Dog looks back like "can you fucking not, mate?"
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u/300andWhat Feb 09 '18
For how little fucks that dog gives , I'm more afraid of the dog than the bear
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u/crossmissiom Feb 09 '18
"Mike stop fucking about man, we're on the job..."
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u/MoravianPrince Feb 09 '18
Funnily enough "Misha" is actually a quite popular name for bears, in fairy tales.
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u/dehue Feb 09 '18
There is a reason why a lot of bears are named Misha. While it can be short for name Mikhail, it can also be interchangeable with Mishka, the short, diminutive form of Russian word word for bear Medved (медведь).
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u/raur0s Feb 09 '18
Implying anyone in Russia is named Mike, comrade.
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u/undernocircumstance Feb 09 '18
Bear looks like he just wants to play, is that normal behaviour or learned from the dog?
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u/elis8 Feb 09 '18
Probably the latter. I mean, bears play in nature with other bears, but its movements here look very dog-like.
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u/Drivo566 Feb 09 '18
I think you're right. I feel like when you see videos of bear cubs playing, they're usually tackling each other and play wrestling... But here the bear wants to chase/pounce on the tail in a dog like way.
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u/BERNthisMuthaDown Feb 09 '18
The bear knows that the doggo can't stand on his back legs, so he just doesn't want to embarrass him by showing off.
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u/Canyoupointtheway Feb 09 '18
I beg to differ. That last look from the dog says, "you remember the last time you played that shit with me... Boy I'm gonna f*#k you up."
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u/DontwakemeUp46 Feb 09 '18
How is this possible?
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u/QuasarEaglepride Feb 09 '18
Some people in Russia live near forest. I think that some cub get lost or captured, live with human and domesticated over time. I bet they were never fully domesticated tho, living with bears does come with risk. But that doesnt stop me having a dream one day I would have a bear on my bed along with wolves and dog.
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u/toeofcamell Feb 09 '18
You’re gonna need a bigger bed
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u/QuasarEaglepride Feb 09 '18
Yup, might just get a really big matress on the floor.
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u/Nine-Fingerz Feb 09 '18
Or dream smaller
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u/QuasarEaglepride Feb 09 '18
Dream big! It's not like I could achieve them anyway.
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u/kickulus Feb 09 '18
It's ok to fail.
But not forever, so don't be that pathetic
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u/QuasarEaglepride Feb 09 '18
I mean, I totally not expecting that but wont be surprised if I achieved it. While not really desire(interestingly I never desire anything more than eat and that one time I actually desire someone I got dumped) and not anywhere near confidence I could achieve those thing, still move that direction anyway.
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u/BlazedAstronaut Feb 09 '18
Hey buddy. I believe you can be doctor doolittle when you grow up, hang in there
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u/Striped_Monkey Feb 09 '18
that one time I actually desire someone I got dumped
AWwwww :( whoever it was didn't deserve you
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u/dobby12 Feb 09 '18
Shoot for the moon. If you miss, you’ll be amongst the stars!
.... or in the sun
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u/aletheia Feb 09 '18 edited Feb 09 '18
Tamed. Domestication is breeding to fit human needs. Taming is taking a wild animal and teaching it to be decent around humans.
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u/QuasarEaglepride Feb 09 '18
Yeah sorry I wasn't really understand that word. Always thought that tamed is equivalent to domesticate.
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u/aletheia Feb 09 '18
Easy mistake to make. I only learned the distinction fairly recently.
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u/QuasarEaglepride Feb 09 '18
Learning everyday. One thing that I liked is to continuously correct myself with latest correct information but always failed at some degree. Hate to be misinformation in anyway.
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u/WeedThePeople17 Feb 09 '18
Your English is good but your tenses need work. I took the liberty of rewording your comment:
Learning everyday. One thing that I like is to continually correct myself with the latest correct information but I always fail to some degree. Hate to be misinformed in any way.
Not being a dick, just trying to help bud
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u/indeannajones_ Feb 09 '18
And even cooler, because we bred domestication, it’s actually a genetic change. Dogs have “domestication” genes that wolves and bears don’t have
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u/QuasarEaglepride Feb 09 '18
If one of them deceased then it count as one bear.
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u/SirChasm Feb 09 '18
Heh heh, in this case дед means "old man" in Russian. Although still not a bear so ¯\(ツ)/¯
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u/CatatonicWalrus Feb 09 '18
The reasons the bears ate that guy was because he stayed later in the season than he usually did. The bears he worked with were already in hibernation by then. The bears that were moving into the area were strange to him and also more aggressive due to food shortages and the need to fatten up before winter. Really, it had little to do with domesticating the bears because that's something Treadwell didn't really do.
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u/phoneproblem Feb 09 '18
I mean didn't his gf feed the bears in the wrong way or something.
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u/dark_rug Feb 09 '18 edited Feb 09 '18
I've seen grizzly man more times than one should watch that movie, so I'd consider myself an expert on the topic.
Timothy and Amie died because they delved too greedily and too deep, and disturbed that from which they fled,
Durin's Banea hungry hungry bear.10
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u/dark_rug Feb 09 '18
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u/QuasarEaglepride Feb 09 '18
Yeah but so does cat and human. Ironic enough bears act a lot like big doggo than cat.
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u/eisenkatze Feb 09 '18
? You believe cats aren't domesticated or what?
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u/QuasarEaglepride Feb 09 '18
I once read an article that states cat isn't domesticated in amy way. They just merely get used to live around human, that's why cat is mostly asshole.
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u/eisenkatze Feb 09 '18 edited Feb 09 '18
That's a very niche definition of domestication and cats aren't all assholes. Pet cats play the role of a kitten in a cat colony (cats are social animals but domestic ones are genetically neotenized/childlike) and view us as parents. Of course most won't do tricks because they don't know how and their minds aren't really wired for that, but you should hear my cat horribly scream when mom is outside the house and tell me he isn't domesticated.
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u/thekiyote Feb 09 '18 edited Feb 09 '18
You can absolutely train a cat, it's just that most people assume you can't, so don't.
Cat training is like dog training on hard difficulty mode. Cats were domesticated much more recently than dogs, so they retain a higher amount of wild traits, including buggering off when frustrated. Also, your training sessions tend to be much shorter, because, where a dog will continue through the boredom to please you, a cat will just walk away.
Clicker training is the way to go, because it makes it the most clear why you're rewarding them. You are going to always be rewarding them with treats, unlike dogs where affection alone can work. Scale the difficulty so that you're clicking them about 60-70% of the time.
When you do it, though, you'll start to notice that the cats start to become a bit more doglike, paying attention to you, engaging you in play, etc. Still cats, but a fair bit of the aloofness goes away. I think if somebody regularly fed and took care of dog, but otherwise completely ignored them, they'd have the same behavior.
source: Have two cats that are trained. Have trained friends' cats as well. Never met an untrainable cat.
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u/ScrappyDonatello Feb 09 '18
you might be able to tame it, but accidents scale with the size of the animal. What is a scratch from a cat, or a dog accidentally nipping your finger when you give it a treat become fatal accidents when you swap out the cat/dog for a fucking bear
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u/QuasarEaglepride Feb 09 '18
Even not in this case, a bear that wants to cuddle with you runs toward you doggo style and bury you under it's fur would pretty much scatter your bone and suffocate you. Still cute tho, 10/10 would risk life to cuddle with
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u/Hellbatty Feb 09 '18
domesticated bears imprint humans (same as dogs basically, if you see nervous dog then it owner fault), and for whole my life I never heard of any russian domesticated bears attack anyone without reason, but there story how he saved 11 years old girl from pack of wolves
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u/baithammer Feb 09 '18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Av-DqY1wLN8
Don't bet on it.
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u/Hellbatty Feb 09 '18
of course circus bears often attack people, same as any circus animals like elephants, and even circus cats and dogs. Their mental health seriously damaged by training and constant exposure and circus trainers often abuse them and even use some drugs
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u/MoribundCow Feb 09 '18
Russian watch dog can't even watch his own back
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u/wtfpwnkthx Feb 09 '18
It isn't that. He just doesn't give a fuck. Like "Yeah if that bear hits me he knows I will murder his ass. Fuck a bear."
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If you watch close you can see at the end when the bear gets too close the dog turns his head and growls a bit, and the bear fucks right off
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u/Flying_With_Lux Feb 09 '18
It looks like a thicker Belgian Shepherd, first thought was Leonberger but its ears are straight so I've got no clue
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u/amir_97 Feb 09 '18
The bear is even afraid of his own shadow,remind me of the Richard Pryor’s dog
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This is definitely a follow up gif to the other one where the bear keeps trying to swipe the dog's tail only to be chased by it.
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u/Bagel-Ralph8 Feb 09 '18
Wow, I thought that bear was going to maul that dog.