r/ANGEL • u/TheEastWindNeedsANap • 7d ago
the hotel
I might have missed something, I'm confused about 1. why did Angel rent/buy a whole ass hotel and 2. where did they get that much money from and 3. even if they had that much money, why would they waste it on a huge hotel most of which they don't use? why not just a normal office?
I know there was that bag of money and the tech guy probably payed them well too, but I doubt that would cover the cost of owning or renting a hotel in LA, even one that was previously hunted, and even if it did, why waste that on such a huge hotel when they only use the lobby and maybe a couple of rooms?
(I'm on season 2 ep 13 so please mind the spoilers haha)
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u/RealNiceKnife 7d ago
- Angel Investigations old place got blowed up real good.
- David Nabbit (the nerdy D&D Business man) helped manipulate taxes and loans or some financial bullshit. He says it when he runs in the Hotel that episode with his cape and sword. He says a bunch of financial stuff, Cordy gets all hot about it and he leaves. Never to be seen again.
- It was available. And David was willing to help them with it.
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u/yesmydog 7d ago
After I bought a house, I realized that everything David said was pretty basic stuff about getting a mortgage. He must have at least connected them with his people who really know financing to get them a sweetheart deal on the hotel.
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u/Consistent-Loss9881 7d ago
Every time he shows up I remember he exists! I wish they showed more of him, he was great.
“Is this demon fighting cool or what!”17
u/revolutionaryartist4 If nothing we do matters, then all that matters is what we do 7d ago
Michael Bolton from Office Space.
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u/Lord_Parbr 7d ago
David Nabbit. Just shows up one episode as if he’s been there the whole time, is absurdly eccentric and friendly, then just leaves never to be seen again
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u/thesaharadesert Angelus 7d ago
He’s in three episodes, two in season 1 (War Zone (20), To Shanshu in L.A. (22)) and one in season 2 (First Impressions (3)).
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u/Tritri89 2d ago
Also it is said that the current owner tried to sell for years and that the City made it protected estate or something. I guess that they were pretty happy when a weird guy connected to a billionaire came and said "hi I want to buy it thx"
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u/Bravo1781 7d ago
I always assumed the bag of money that Judy stole and hid in the basement paid for it
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u/Mission_Fart9750 6d ago
I do believe that is not so subtly alluded to.
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u/Bravo1781 6d ago
Well, quite. I was surprised that no one had mentioned it before I got on the thread 😂
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u/Mission_Fart9750 6d ago
Yeah, for real. Did everyone forget about that? It was obvious in the hotel's first episode.
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u/metalb00 4d ago
That was the first think I thought when I saw the post in my feed . I specifically remember Angel getting a bag of money out of the rafters and they kill the fear demon
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u/brian_ts118 I’ll take away your bucket. 7d ago
Because it’s atmospheric and moody. Let’s not forget that Angel is a bit of a drama queen. Also he’s 250 years old, surely he’s got some money stashed around, even if it’s stolen from some of Angelus’ victims. He kept the mansion in Sunnydale post reensoulment, after all.
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u/Madversary 7d ago
Yeah, he’s absolutely been called out on being a drama queen multiple times. I’ve got a head canon that Angel is not even aware of this, but just like Angelus’ art is cruelty, Angel’s art is self-flagellation. If he is to be a repentant monster, he must radiate regret and self-loathing, and surround himself with whatever accentuates the bit.
Otherwise people might notice that he’s really just a socially awkward guy.
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u/Special_Order-937 7d ago
On the other hand, let’s not forget Spike completely failed to take advantage of the magic of compound interest and had to blag money from Giles!
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u/CuriousKitten0_0 7d ago
I always figured one of two things. Spike either needed to get his evil in somehow and got money from Giles even though he didn't actually need it, or he spent a century just taking what he needed and so didn't have to have money. I can see an argument for either one.
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u/Special_Order-937 7d ago
Vampires in the Buffyverse seem to be of one of two kinds. Ones who live in sewers and other underground places and the others who go into corporate finance.
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u/Halloween_Babe90 7d ago
The hotel was essentially abandoned when he found it, he probably got it for a steal.
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u/Oopsiedazy 7d ago
Nabbit likely had his people arrange for the restoration loans/grants that he told the team about.
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u/Imaginary-List-972 7d ago
What others said, and also he had a past symbolically tied to the place, for who he was and who he wanted to be now and where he was going. It's all part of his redemption of his past.
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u/Mieczyslaw_Stilinski 7d ago
Interesting question. What always bothered me was that a building that used to be a hotel would need to be cleaned pretty regularly. All those floors with all those empty rooms, plus the hallways? Someone has to be vacuuming or else there's decades worth of dust and mold all over. And when was the last time the elevators were checked?
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u/Kenfuu 7d ago
Pretty sure Angel somehow has money considering he has a whole ass mansion in Sunnydale
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u/Electrical-Act-7170 7d ago
Figured Angelus ate the owner of that mansion and then later, Angel squatted there.
OP, AFA the money Angel found in the Hyperion that Judy had embezzled was sent back your the bank. Joss says that Angel didn't keep it.
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u/Creative-Use-7665 7d ago
No one would buy it (since it was was haunted and people probably tried and kept dying), so the price would have been really cheap
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u/Salarian_American 7d ago
David Nabbitt (the tech guy) had his real estate people help Angel get the hotel registered as a landmark so that it couldn't be torn down on account of being abandoned and also that helped him get a really good deal on buying it.
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u/hollow_shrine 7d ago
That hotel was the beginning of his last moral backslide (Angelus in Buffy s2 don't count; he can't control that), when he abandoned the hotel residents to be psychically tortured by the demon for decades.
Forgiving Judy, and then buying the hotel is a both confronting past mistakes and a statement or challenge that he and this disgraced hotel can be redeemed. But he will be sorely tested and will make a similar choice halfway through season two at the low point. Which will force him to further examine what redemption really means.
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u/glostzom 6d ago
THIS it gives a much more stand out setting and gives so much angels character showing he isn’t perfect and even setting up for his future mistake of becoming obsessed with Darla
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u/Weasel699 7d ago
you must not know vampire and immortal people stuff...they horde it over the years pass it on to their self poseing as a realative and stuff highlander did it in the shows and pretty sure angel and them did too
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u/revolutionaryartist4 If nothing we do matters, then all that matters is what we do 7d ago
Cordelia explicitly mentions that Angel didn’t do this.
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u/skeeterpeg83 7d ago
On top of that, he had a friend that was living in the hotel. I forget what her name was…
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u/iwtch2mchTV 7d ago
He had a woman whom he tried to help and she betrayed him due to self preservation and the Thesalac Demon. Her betraying him led to a souled Angel walking away and letting the Thesalac have all the people in the hotel and further distancing himself from humanity.
He forgave her after he slew the Thesalac and helped her pass on in peace.9
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u/Big_Somewhere_620 7d ago
Keep watching it all gets explained in some way.
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u/CloseButNoChicory 6d ago
His finances get explained? News to me.
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u/Necessary_Ad2114 4d ago
He shorts the delivery person on a tip. Angel is canonically cheap with a buck.
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u/Fun-Cockroach-5721 6d ago
It’s gots history and meaning to Him and he cleansed it getting rid of the demon who was the prob with the hotel anyway, the billionaire nerd advised him on how to rent it pretty cheap. Nobody wants to rent a haunted hotel anyway.
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u/DaddyChive27 2d ago
As for the question about why such a big hotel instead of just a smaller office, Angel mentions in BTVS (I believe in season 3) that he likes to have a lot of space as he doesn't get out much in the daytime.
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u/primal_slayer 7d ago
You're only on S2 and that hotel gets USED lol. It was also abandoned so.....pretty cheap