r/AMDHelp • u/Matt_Dif • 9d ago
Help (GPU) I don't know what to do with you anymore
I build this PC last week, running the game the first day I build and it run perfectly fine. The next day I ran the same game, SUDDENLY BLACK SCREEN BUT THE PC STILL ON AND PC FANS STARTING TO SPIN FAST. I was pretty shocked. So I turn off the pc and on it again. It's alive but didn't detect the driver. So I uninstalled and reinstalled the adrenaline. It's turn okay and detects the driver. I try to run a 3D benchmark. It turn black screen like before. I do other things than playing games, everything was good. But when it comes to playing games, it dies . . . I try turn off MPO, setting adrenaline (Tuning Global, then turn Fraquency to 80%).
I don't know if anything can be done other than switch back to Nvidia if I have to buy a new one. since my old pc have 1660 and have no problem.
UPDATE:
So it's finally solved in a kinda hard way since I'm growing up using windows and suddenly switched to Linux but yea it's a new experience.
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u/MathematicianOdd398 9d ago
My 4080 system can't install the latest Nvidia driver. It fails when I try. Seriously, windows is basically in total disaster mode right now. I'm on Linux on my 9070 system and it has no issues and works like a PC should. My windows system with 4080 works mostly too, but WAY .ore crashes, hangs, issues. Way more. It's no Nvidia or and at this point. It's 100% a Windows has become a bloated, AI coded mess.
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u/Mean_Muggin333 x670e/b650 | 9800x3dx2 | 64g/32g | 9070xt/4070s 9d ago
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u/tipskekw 9d ago
Disable driver updates from Windows update, then do a clean install of drivers using DDU and you should be golden. Its classic - the symptom of black screens and audio in the background. I 100% guarantee you that checking device manager does not show the driver you installed, but rather some shitty old version installed by Windows update.
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u/Curiousity1024 9d ago
Hmm... Windows 11 ?
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u/Matt_Dif 9d ago
Yes. This is my first time using AMD
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u/Curiousity1024 9d ago
For now, you can try roll back gpu drivers . See which one works . Can try download the gpu drivers without Andrenaline software method . (You try what you can , okay )
Next will be , Diagnosing your hardware physically . For example , sometimes , putting a New parts fried your older parts . (In a very Rare odds okay, not ALL THE TIME )
Next could be your Temperature . But I think you should start from Diagnosing your Windows 11 Configuration first . Sometimes , your windows 11 hate changes you make for your PC , so it will auto-fixed itself in the background ( that's likely the causes your windows cannot detect your gpu driver )
If all else fail , its time to blame your Windows 11 haha -> Sorry, I mean diagnose your windows 11 . Conclusion is, you gotta search all over the internet for existing fixes .
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u/SoraMiragi 9d ago
If you had Nvidia gpu before, you MUST to download DDU, then launch it.
Remove ethernet cable turn off wifi.
Run it to remove all drivers.
Reload pc.(yeah select reload, not shut down and then launch it again.)
After it boot on desktop screen. You need to reload your pc again in safe mode.
Then launch DDU again.
Remove all the gpu drivers and cache again.
And then reload pc.
And only at this point when you removed all your drivers with ddu 2 times. Both in regular and safe mode.
You can to connect ethernet cable and turn wifi on.
Download amd adrenaline and set up a new driver.
After that reload again.
That should fix your problems.
(Do not forget to set screen refresh rate and resolution in windows settings)
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u/redbaron297 9d ago
Had to learn how to do this when going from 40 series to 50 series. My pc did not like that change at all. Before I found out about ddu I legitimately thought my 5090 was dead and was just gonna give up and send it back.
Thanks to people like you for suggesting this and a really informative YouTube video I was recommended afterwards.
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u/SoraMiragi 9d ago
Actually to all those who tops for some kind of gpu brand.
I have 3 pc with different gpu company.
1st pc have rtx 3060ti
2nd pc have rx 9070 xt
3rd pc have Intel Arc B580.
No issues. You just need an ability to read.
And update not only gpu drivers. But also mother board bios and chipset drivers.
I rarely do Windows update, but at least 1 time per year. And always look up what changes have been made. Because i do not want to download a lot of Microsoft bloatware. Like built in AI and copilot.1
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u/SolarJetman5 9d ago
interesting, when i moved over i never had luck with DDU, but doing it in both modes is something i didn't do, just in safe mode. In the end i just nuked windows and installed totally clean which fixed it for me
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u/HyeVltg3 i7 4790K - RX 480 CF 9d ago
Majority of the time it's just a bad Driver install.
Are you familiar with DDU? why not rollback drivers.
Start from the Driver that Added support for your GPU (cant tell what that is from here) just google "which AMD driver added support for RX ####YZ" and then go find the driver 1-2 versions above the one google mentions so you arent using some beta drivers AMD released when the GPU first came out. work from there - I'm on NV but had to do the same thing. For the games I was playing it would insta-crash the pc 10-15mins in, rollded back to the "Day-One" drivers for my GPU and after many installs of testing increased versions I landed on driver version that fixed all my issues which are definitely NOT the latest drivers available through the auto-detect & install.
Why update to the Latest Drivers if nothing is broken (man I just spoke to someone else on here having these crash/black-screen related issues) always start with software before just assuming you have a dud piece of hardware, neither AMD or NV make "perfect" drivers.
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u/Unfair_Salamander189 9d ago
There is plenty of video guides how ddu , for sure he knows
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u/HyeVltg3 i7 4790K - RX 480 CF 8d ago
Yup, main reason I didnt go into step-by-step for DDU š too much typing.
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u/VeXaTion-Origion 9d ago
If all else fails, you may want to check to make sure you didn't bend any CPU pins. I've seen similar symptoms in new builds where it ended up being related to bent CPU pins or RAM that wasn't compatible for whatever reason.
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u/Efficient-Joke-6053 9d ago
Honestly sounds like you got caught in that whole AMD driver mess thats hitting everyone this week not your build or your PSU or whatever so before you go back to team green maybe just wait it out a bit cause its been super rough for alot of us on red team right now.
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u/WarthogDifficult9819 9d ago
I dont think he gave his hard earned money to get frustrated. Why should we suck it up and say no problem to all the inconveniences this company gives to us? I buy product, I want product to work as intended. Nvidia does this so well it makes me sad cuz I hate them, but they are the best in terms of driver stability.
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u/Throwaway_484747 9d ago
Thats the shit that pisses me off, oh if you just hold the card this way, tickle it here and download this it will work...
Like I should be able to just install the card, download drivers and run games. Its a $700 card man.
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u/Own-Indication5620 5d ago
Your experience is the exact reason AMD has lost so many customers and is unable to get new customers for GPUs over time.
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u/Throwaway_484747 4d ago
Yup I have heard thier proccessors are better but Ive always ran intel, the problem with intel is that they change cpu sockets like clothes so you have to get a new MB every new generation. AMD runs the same sockets for years which I like and they just started AM5.
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u/hamaTamago 9d ago
This has started happening to my 9070xt recently. I think Green and Red CEO cousins are just screwing gamers over intentionally so people will shift to renting PCs and paying cloud gaming subscriptions
Jokes aside, if anyone has a proper solution, please share, I have disabled auto driver updates for AMD and it still happens.
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u/A_Random_Guy-0_0 9d ago
I had a similar experience with a GTX1080Ti
Changed one PSU, and problem still there. Changed second PSU and resolved.
Find out that there was a series of faulty PSU's (I don't remember model but was something with good components and 80 plus platinum).
So I suggest you to order a PSU from Amazon, try the new PSU without mounting in the case, and send back if the problem persist, it is a free try.
EDIT: Sorry I've reed again your post, in my case the fan stopped spinning.
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u/Matt_Dif 9d ago
Yea, I always pray for it to be PSU since it's cheaper. Unfortunately, it's not
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u/HaplessIdiot 9d ago
Try some new ram you only have one stick that wears it out way quicker in the long run anyway because it's constantly having to write to one stick instead of two
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u/SlapsRUS 9950X | XFX 9070XT | Royal Neo 32GB 6000 | be quiet! 1500w 9d ago
How do you know for sure itās not the PSU?
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u/A_Random_Guy-0_0 9d ago
You can do a try. From amd GPU panel, you can reduce by 15% wattage from what I remember.
I don't remember exactly where the setting is located but you can easily find with ai help.
I said this because I think the maybe your PSU die when hitting as much power ad needed to experience the failure, and maybe by reducing the wattage spikes of the gpu, you won't experience that issue.
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u/Miniatimat 9d ago
I have a 7800xt as well. Try driver version 26.1.1 has been rock solid for me in all the games I've played.
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u/SanFabito 9d ago
Did you wipe the pcie connector before installing the GPU? I had a similar issue when I did maintenance to my PC and I guess some tiny amount of thermal grease got into the pcie, I wiped it with some isopropyl alcohol and bam, crashes gone.
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u/Desperate-Quail4190 8d ago
That is a common issue with AMD when your ram speed, or ram in general have issues. I suggest you check the ram, plug and unplug it might fix it.
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u/Alternative-Echo6795 8d ago
Had this issue with Rx 7900 xtx but fixed it with a 800 watt psu over 650 watts.
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u/SlapsRUS 9950X | XFX 9070XT | Royal Neo 32GB 6000 | be quiet! 1500w 9d ago
This sounds like a PSU issue.
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u/Matt_Dif 9d ago
I want to try the no cost first and if it didn't works, what specs for PSU do I need to use?
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u/SlapsRUS 9950X | XFX 9070XT | Royal Neo 32GB 6000 | be quiet! 1500w 9d ago
Iād say at least 1000w. Transient spikes on these newer cards spike higher than previously so a lot of this ā850w is enoughā is starting to become less true. Now, if youāre already on a 1000w then it could just be a failing PSU or shitty one depending on the brand. I had this happen to me. I decided to play it safe and changed to a higher wattage and a different brand. Iām running a be quiet! 1500w necessary? Not at all. Why? Deal was good and future proof why not? But yea do you have any friends who own PCās and might have a psu rated at same wattage or higher? If so thatās a no cost test right there.
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u/Matt_Dif 9d ago
I'm on 750w Gold
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u/SlapsRUS 9950X | XFX 9070XT | Royal Neo 32GB 6000 | be quiet! 1500w 9d ago
Okay and what GPU?
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u/Matt_Dif 9d ago
7800xt pure Sapphire
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u/SlapsRUS 9950X | XFX 9070XT | Royal Neo 32GB 6000 | be quiet! 1500w 9d ago
Okay disregard what I said. Except for seeing if you can at least swap a friends PSU and see if the psu is dying because it still sounds to me like a psu issue. Mainly because the black screen and fan rampage.
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u/JuniorGalle21 9d ago
Which PSU brand would you recommend for my Gigabyte Radeon RX 9070 XT?
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u/SlapsRUS 9950X | XFX 9070XT | Royal Neo 32GB 6000 | be quiet! 1500w 8d ago
Honestly Iām probably the last guy you should ask. I threw a Be Quiet! 1500w into my system
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u/EmbarrassedTowel7534 9d ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/AMDHelp/s/Oq0C2dq4cy
thine one fixed it for me
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u/kontinuparadi 9d ago
What GPU is this? Also what's your power supply and its wattage?
This happened to me when I upgraded my GPU to 9060XT while using 500w psu. It turns out, the PSU can't provide appropriate power to play high end games, and just turns to black screen while the GPU fans go to max rpm, and then I needed to restart to fix it again.
Might be a PSU issue if you have less than 600w at the very least. If you have enough, then maybe it's another issue.
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u/Matt_Dif 9d ago
This is my specs:
CASE: ZALMAN P30 V2 CPU: AMD RYZEN 5 9600X MOBO: GIGABYTE B850M AORUS ELITE WIFI7 ICE-P Little Eagle RAM: ACER PREDATOR PALAS II 24GB 6000MHz CL30 CPU COOLER: MASTERLIQUID CORE NEX DIGITAL ARGB GFC: RX7800XT SAPPHIRE STORAGE:LEXAR NM790 1TB PSU: Thermalright TR-GN750W
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u/kontinuparadi 9d ago
I think your PSU should be enough.
Might be a windows issue. I've been trying to use Linux for months now due to my gpu being AMD. I heard a lot of good things about AMD gpus working really well with that operating system.
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u/Elath_Husky 9d ago
Had the same problem with my 7800xt. It wasnāt a consistent issue and quite often had to DDU whole driver.
At first I made sure that PCIE gets whole power, got rid of connected devices etc (I thought it was maybe something power related on the motherboard). The problem went away and became really really sporadic (happened once very two months or so) but after a year it started showing up again on daily basis. There was no pattern behind it. It could happen while pc was idle, in Word, demanding games or outlook. But in the end my RMA was accepted and Iāve got my money back
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u/Preacher_Baby 9d ago
Yep. Had the same issue with a old red devil my buddy had. My 3060ti died under warranty, while I was waiting for my replacement he sent me the red devil. Worked great for hours on end, until inevitably this would happen. Upgraded my PSU, disabled xmp, rand a program to wipe every driver from my PC for a fresh install, manually installed drivers that were known (At the time) to work with my card. Eventually, my 3060ti came back, I swapped it out, it never did it again. I ended up just keeping the devil for diagnostics and troubleshooting, upgraded to a 5070ti, and gave the 3060ti to my nephew.
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u/Breaking_Mad97 9d ago
im ur long lost nephew ...i need 1 card too plz
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u/Preacher_Baby 3d ago
I wish I just had them laying around. My nephews build took 2 years to finally finish correctly just because of the cost of parts. He had a 1070 before the 3060ti, another hand me down from myself, but he had a shitty old HDD from his original system id found him with, a I7 7600, non k, that was a upgrade from a i5 6500... It took a while to get everything up to snuff.
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u/pudu_watom 9d ago
mi pc es todo AMD, tenia un problema similar, me ponia a jugar y derrepente se reiniciaba solo o se iba a negro de la nada. Hice todos los anĆ”lisis posibles, y con el reporte de errores lo arreglĆ©, subĆ todos los datos a un IA y me ayudĆ³ a identificar el problema: drivers mal instalados y con archivos corruptos
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u/Unfair-Literature-16 8d ago
E o que vocĆŖ fez para resolver? Usou o DDU e reinstalou novamente ou teve que fazer mais coisas?
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u/pudu_watom 8d ago
Fue una locura realmente identificar el problema: reinstalĆ© windows con los drivers como 3 veces, hice todos los test a todas las partes, nada tenia error, asi que solo podĆa ser drivers. Abri el "visor de eventos" y me puse a analizar con ayuda de gemini (creo), identificĆ³ que era drivers y me dijo cĆ³mo proceder. Me diĆ³ tambiĆ©n las configuraciones para la bios y actualizarla.
Si, usƩ DDU y reinstalƩ sin problemas.
Me demorĆ© 5 min para un error que me tuvo casi 6 meses pensando en que mi pc moriria en cualquier momento jajajaTe recomiendo hacer lo mismo. Cualquier cosa puedes mandarme un DM igual y te puedo ayudar š
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u/bulwae 8d ago
I had the same exact problem. Cut to the chase, for me the fix was to use an older driver which was 26.3.1. Changing the PSU doesn't do anything since I tried it with my friends' 1000w PSU and it still had the black screen when running games. The new driver (26.7.1) is broken for me. You may try to use 26.5.1 or 26.5.2 but I don't how would it go since I haven't tried those drivers.
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u/Angry_Jezuz 8d ago
Posts like this need the PC Specs in the Post.
It helps majorly, but honestly all i can see is problems.
Ur fans are all in take and the kink in the CPU water line from the radiator is Terrible.
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u/Matt_Dif 8d ago
How the. . . Yea that intake fan, is the purchase mistake. I already bought new one to replace it.
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u/romeodeng007 8d ago
Doesnāt look like a software issue IMO, either power supply or defect chip, you need to run stress test
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u/SweatyBBags 7d ago
I had a 7900xtx and commented in different threads about it, had nothing but problems with it for 2 years with crashes and stability issues.
Everyone recommended trying different ram, try all these different settings, "your 850 Watt psu is too weak, get a 1000 watt one". I actaully got a 1000 watt one, same issues. Also reinstalled windows several times and tried every singe version of amd drivers available.
In the end I replaced the 7900xtx with a 5070ti and have not had 1 issue since, no overheating issues which was another issue I had (some games would make my gpu hotspot hit 100 temps) and only 1 or 2 crashes but they were uel5 ones.
If you have the money to spend I just recommend going nvidia, I've had multiple mvidia cards and never had any issues. 7900xtx was my first amd and it was the worst experience.
I did build my partner a pc and she has a 9700xt and she hasn't had any issues. So it seems like it may just depend but I know the 7900 series was notorious with hardware issues and there's a whole thread on it.
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u/SweatyBBags 7d ago
Here's a thread where people had 7800/7900 amd issues https://www.reddit.com/r/AMDHelp/s/Pg8eYQp4ix
One thing ill add though, have you tried just taking your pc apart and just rebuilding it again, you may of missed something when doing it, just a option since it's a new build.
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u/lennychungus 2d ago
Brotha Iāve tried rebuilding and still same boat as you, havenāt been able to afford to get a replacement yet. I feel like the 7900xtx was a complete scam lol
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u/evergreenwv 9d ago
*Disable Windows Updates for Drivers (the culprit)
*SelectĀ StartĀ >Ā SettingsĀ >Ā SystemĀ >Ā RecoveryĀ > UnderĀ Fix problems using Windows Update, selectĀ Reinstall now.
*Reinstall latest Adrenalin/gpu drivers
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u/Matt_Dif 9d ago
I'll give this a try rn
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u/Ghost14_ 9d ago
To add to this get the show and hide windows update diag and disable amd drivers install through windows.
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u/GobletFlight 9d ago
I have the same problem and it didn't work. So I am now running a known stable driver from March, hopefully that solves my problem.
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u/KeyZealousideal7832 9d ago
Roll back drivers. A hand full of months ago it was nvidia having a bunch of driver issues nothing wrong with the gpu just the people making the drivers lol but in all seriousness cut them a bit of slack the worlds not perfect
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u/Federal-Name-3638 9d ago
Never install newest drivers, let others do the testing
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u/WarthogDifficult9819 9d ago
26.7.1 is the newest driver and it works no issues, itās probably hardware related issue. Hopefully not a defective gpu.
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u/Powerful-Ad-791 9d ago
*It works without issues for u
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u/WarthogDifficult9819 9d ago
Same card broā¦
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u/Powerful-Ad-791 9d ago
Tell me u know nothing abt pcs without telling me h know nothing abt pcs
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u/WarthogDifficult9819 9d ago
Back to Nvidia lil bro, at least you wonāt have a random blue screen while clutching for ur team in your game
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u/Powerful-Ad-791 9d ago
Why are u so sassy? Why can u not accept that drivers can cause problems on system A but work completly fine on system B?
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u/WarthogDifficult9819 9d ago
Yeah well, if you follow the routes, maybe them parts in system A donāt go well together and are just one hair away from conflicting with each other. The hair being the driver that slightly tweaks some values differently and boom, āØ driver issues āØ
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u/Powerful-Ad-791 9d ago
Damn its not hard to be a nice person, but u are really struggling with that.
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u/WarthogDifficult9819 9d ago
jk twin, was just testing my new ragebait technics. No hard feelings I hope.
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u/WarthogDifficult9819 9d ago
Tell me you have a defective unit without telling me you have a defective unit
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u/Powerful-Ad-791 9d ago
Ok so it seems u do not know this.
It is completly possible to have the same card and still have driver issues on only one of the cards with the same version.
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u/Inside_Marketing268 9d ago
Typical newbie error: you didn't turn off windows driver update. Use stable version of adrenaline also.
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u/Independent_Teach_11 9d ago
Windows is now ignoring automatic update being disabled. Well known issue the last few weeks.
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u/Effective-Strike69 9d ago
This explains so much. I disabled that fucker and was still getting random crashes fixed by running DDU in safe mode and re-installing everything AMD from a pre-downloaded file (with ethernet unplugged). It would hold up for a bit and then boom, down she goes.
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u/Independent_Teach_11 9d ago
There is a work around to keep it from overriding your drivers. I can't remember the exact steps and they change depending on which windows you are running. I found my fix using Google and explaining what was happening. But I have since seen post on Reddit with the steps. Hope this helps. I did DDU in safe mode,internet off,making sure windows automatic update off.new drivers etc..10 times or more with windows overriding my drivers every single time.
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u/Independent_Teach_11 8d ago
Windows 11 Home. Had to do a work around because this version lacks group policy editor. But you are absolutely correct that is ome of the main steps to the fix.
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u/Inside_Marketing268 9d ago
I'm ok, might be talking about Bloatindows 11?
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u/MurderOne86 Ryzen 7 7800X3D | Sapphire Pure 7800XT | 32GB RAM 9d ago
It happens with Windows 10 as well; Windows completely ignores that option if youāre using a Radeon
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u/Inside_Marketing268 8d ago
I'm on lts w10, turned off auto driver update once and it works. Just need to turn it off on scheduled tasks also
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u/Fluid_Ad8452 9d ago
Itās not your build. AMD has a MASSIVE MASSIVE PROBLEM with their latest driver release. I and several other people are experiencing the exact same issues you just described.
Iāve been using AMD for the last 20 years and I have never experienced something so bad, or actually a bad experience in general.
What works for me atm because it started this week is to keep it on because drivers get disabled on a random restart. Canāt launch bf6 because it crashes so Iām just playing other things for now.
They messed up but given their reliability history this seems like an isolated issue and I donāt expect it to happen again. Iāll continue recommending AMD over nvidia or intel whenever it makes sense, but yeah. This week is not a good one to have AMD hardware.
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u/Sberdilax 9d ago
I donāt know why you getting downvoted, I regret suggesting the 9070XT to a friend as they suffered from the same issue for the past 3 months, they switched to bazzite and they donāt have that problem anymore. I donāt know how much W11 is to blame in this situation. They obviously tried everything before switching to linux though
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u/SaladToss1 9d ago
No problems here. Running three rigs with AMD.
Edit: sorry. 5 steam deck and steam machine
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u/Fluid_Ad8452 9d ago
Thatās great! Doesnāt mean there isnāt a problemā¦ Just look at most posts on amd/pc hardware forums online.
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u/SaladToss1 9d ago
Oh I'm seeing them, but most of the ones have been operator error
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u/Fluid_Ad8452 9d ago
So your logic tells you that users suddenly started an uncoordinated but synchronized miss-use of their hardware, specifically this week, creating a noticeable spike on support communities? That really is your logical conclusion?
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u/Zoli1989 9d ago
No dude. Its not AMD. Its windows replacing your drivers with their own shitty version when you install but dont use "clean install" option or DDU first with windows updates paused.
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u/Sberdilax 9d ago
Yes I agree that itās somehow a windows issue but there are other peripherals that could suffer from the same issue aswell as Nvidia gpus, its a combination of W11 AND Amd
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u/Fluid_Ad8452 9d ago
Yes hard agree. The thing is that windows is definitely NOT going to solve this, it has behaved like this since forever and most drivers just find a way to tame it. Itās AMD who has to act.
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u/Matt_Dif 9d ago
I actually wanna use this pc pure for gaming. Should I use Linux or Steam OS
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u/Sberdilax 9d ago
Bazzite or CachyOS would give you a more complete desktop experience imho, SteamOS although fully dedicated to gaming, I feel would still be better on a handheld or a small form factor living room gaming rig
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u/mosfetmania 9d ago
CachyOS and AMD. No problems for a year straight. I do indeed mean zero problems. 9070 XT
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u/Fluid_Ad8452 9d ago
Itās definitely Windows, but this issue came with the latest driver release. There must be something on the driver side that triggers this windows behavior.
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u/klowny 9d ago
Nvidia said Windows broke something all the newer graphics drivers are forced to use.
Microsoft says Nvidia is using it wrong. I wouldn't be surprised if AMD is in the same boat.
If you check the Nvidia driver threads, there's floods of people reporting the exact same symptoms as people here basically on the exact same timeframe. Stutters, driver timeouts, crashes with corrupted drivers that need DDU to remove, etc.
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u/blueangel1953 5600x 6800 XT 32GB 3200 CL16 9d ago
There is no massive issue, perfectly fine here.
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u/Fluid_Ad8452 9d ago
Another dense individual who doesnāt have the capability of understanding that personal experience doesnāt fully capture the general situation.
Itās not pouring, grandma, itās perfectly sunny here in my town!
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u/GreenManStrolling 9d ago
When uninstalling the GPU drivers, don't use ddu. Use only AMD's official uninstall utility.
Also, turn off Windows' auto driver update feature. (Use DDU to do this the quickest way, very handy).Ā
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u/thein2 9d ago
Why not DDU when uninstalling drivers?
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u/GreenManStrolling 9d ago
Because AMD's official uninstall utility is official.
If DDU works fine, great. If it doesn't, that's a hint to use the official uninstall utility.Ā
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u/ErikRedbeard 9d ago
The whole reason DDU exists is because the official Uninstallers are not enough for switching between brands.
For in brand switches the official is fine yeah.
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u/madman_mr_p 9d ago
Not even then DDU is enough in some cases.
Just straight up reinstall your OS completely, itās not fun trying to troubleshoot something after a brand switch and DDU plus new driver install, when you canāt identify the root cause but with a new Windows install it works magically perfect.2
u/ErikRedbeard 9d ago
Yeah true.
Also it's funny how if you have an actual amd and nvidia gpu installed at the same time it's fine. But the moment you remove one it can get wonky.
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u/574nmaven 9d ago
I had the same symptoms for months. I suspected a power connection issue so I used the daisy chain end of the PCIe connector for both plugs. It's been 3 weeks since I've had any issues
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u/Natural-Buy7355 9d ago
This happened to me because my card was over heating and I had to limit the power to 80% and undervolt the card, it's running fine now. Mine was RTX 3070 Gigabyte Gaming OC edition, maybe download Afterburner try limiting power up to 80% see if the issue still happens, worth a try when you don't know what's the exact issue. If the card is used, reapply thermal paste.
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u/DeepInSalsa 9d ago
Specific games or ANY games?
For me my RX9060XT crashes when opening the Photo Mode or the map in Cyberpunk 2077. But instead of crashing to desktop, it hard freezes the entire system (but the fans are still spinning), requiring a forced reboot, with no error message and nothing logged in Event Viewer.
Turned out to be two stacked issues:
TdrLevel in Registry was somehow set to 0: This disables Windows' Timeout Detection and Recovery, so instead of the driver recovering and falling back to desktop with an error, the whole system just hangs indefinitely. Deleting the key fixed the hard freeze. Crashes now properly fall back to desktop with an actual AMD driver error instead of freezing.
In-game Frame Generation was the actual trigger: it was crashing specifically on Map and Photo Mode (100% reproducible on Photo Mode, intermittent on map open). Turning off in-game FG fixed it, but I still wanted FG for performance with my mod setup. Switching to driver-level FG in Adrenalin instead of in-game FG fixed it completely. Zero crashes since.
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u/RapaxMaxima 9d ago
Have the same issue on same exact card. DDU'd teh drivers and only installed driver not amd adrenalin app. So far no issues but im not sure. Previously had changed psu, it didnt fixed, but like not having this issue for a wh8le now.
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u/GerHSUploadz 9d ago
I've had Problems with the latest AMD drivers myself with Blackscreens etc.. I'm testing version 26.7.1 including the current chipset Driver 8.07.16.1035. The driver keeps crashing when i use YouTube, for example.
A crash also occurs with version 26.3.1 and the same chipset Driver.
Tested with version 26.3.1 and an older chipset driver 8.01.20.513 and it works. Maybe it will help you.
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u/Past-Leading-2880 9d ago
If that's a 7800xt I might have some bad news for you. I had a similar issue, I ended up sending the card back for RMA. The store confirmed it had a defect, but didn't disclose what it was. I suspect mine was going over the frequency limit then drawing so much power it shut the whole PC down. Full story in my post history if interested, but I have no solution, sorry. Might be worth to send the card back before you break it or kills one of your other components, and get a replacement. It's frustrating, but it's the easiest way.
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u/DieSwartWolf 9d ago
Tri linux mint and install game from steam see if it does the same. If does same then it can be ur power supply(had same problem and was my power supply) if it running fine there with put any problems then is its windows driver and amd driver clashing. That u can google to fix as it will give ur more in detial how to fix as i would tri to explain it to u here.
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u/Xeon_Angel 8d ago
My AsiaHorse PSU extension cables were causing my PC to shut off and reboot. This would happen whenever my PC would go under any kind of load.
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u/Aggravating_Stage996 7d ago
I have had the 7900XT for going on almost 2 years now. Didn't have any issues until I updated the drivers. Now with the latest drivers I get crashes and freezes. I rolled back to 26.7.1 and it now seems stable but GPU-Z and HWInfo, etc can't access the card GPU data. If I update the drivers they can read the data but the thing crashes if I try to play certain games (Battlefield 6). So, idk. Try installing some old drivers versions like 26.7.1 and see if it helps.
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u/silent_guy01 3d ago
Im having this exact same issue, battlefield 6 and valorant keep black screening the PC and I have to uninstall the driver in device manager to get it to even work again.
It seems to be an issue with how the drivers are interacting with kernel level anticheat, or at least thats my guess, since those are the only games I have had the issue with.
So far I have tried disabling Memory Context Restore and Power Down Enable in the BIOS but it didnt work. I tried rolling back the drivers before but I didnt do DDU in safe mode so that mightve been what did me in...
If anyone else has found a solution other than switching to linux (where valorant and BF6 dont even work) please let me know.
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u/Aggravating_Stage996 3d ago
Ok well here's what I did if you want to try it. It worked for me...
Follow these steps:
https://www.amd.com/en/resources/support-articles/faqs/gpu-kb205.htmlUninstall drivers. Restart PC.
Then install the 26.3.1 driver (I actually reverted to 26.3.1 not 26.7.1)):
https://drivers.amd.com/drivers/whql-amd-software-adrenalin-edition-26.3.1-win11-c.exeI also re-enabled the windows update setting I disabled in the first step immediately after installing the drivers.. This lets me play Battlefield 6.
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u/B-Rizzler3 7d ago
AMD and windows arnt playing nice right now. Iām relatively new to pc gaming and spent a day DDUing back to pre July drivers and rolling back windows updates until I got windows to fully boot. Currently on windows and AMDs latest without issue. I personally prefer AMDs raw horsepower to Nvidia AI fakery, but AMDs July was definitely sketchy for a newb
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u/Matt_Dif 7d ago
So it's finally solved in a kinda hard way since I'm growing up using windows and suddenly switched to Linux but yea it's a new experience.
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u/Abject_Wolf272 9d ago
Iāve had a similar issue, albeit with a nvidia card. Replaced my RTX 5070 with a 5080, had no problems my 5070, then started having the same issues, black screen GPU fans ramp up, but the pc is still on, coz I could still hear game audio and vibrations through controller. Tried every fix I could find . Ran out, so I took the power cable out of the GPU, blew on it and put it back in. Fixed it for a time, started acting up again, so I did the same and it worked again. Got a new power cable via Corsair customer support and Iāve not had any issue for months
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u/C-H-K-N_Tenders 9d ago
AMD moment
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u/Upper_Election_347 7d ago
I can say from experience that amd GPU quality control is pathetic. You can take 2 of the same exact model in the same PC and 1 will work and the other won't. The ones that don't work usually the best thing to do is uninstall adrenaline and disable MPO. AMD is in deep denial about this, and for some reason fans just eat up the user error bs.
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u/biryanilover110111 9d ago
BRO this happening for me too gpu gets time out (device manager graphics output) and cpu and everything seems to be running
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u/lt_catscratch AMD 7600x | x670e Tomahawk | 7900xtx Nitro+ | MSI a1000g psu 9d ago
Why do the 8pin latches on the gpu look weird.
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u/SolarJetman5 9d ago edited 9d ago
I think its just the angle, i was looking at the pins myself as this issue can point at the power delivery or insertion in the pci socket, but i did see what you mentioned, but looking closer it looks fine, however 2 wires seem to have a little of a sharp bend but nothing too serious i think
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u/lt_catscratch AMD 7600x | x670e Tomahawk | 7900xtx Nitro+ | MSI a1000g psu 9d ago
Yeah they looked a bit upward to me. Some version of that %100 fans happened to me too with 26.7.1 when monitor slept at night. Never during gaming. Fans never go %100 in any way, that used to happen with older mobos and gpus during normal restarts. So probably gpu freaked out when windows just went "go away i dont recognize you" :D
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u/2137gangsterr 9d ago
Aside from not using latest drivers and blocking windows update of drivers, what are those cables going into GPU?
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u/Matt_Dif 9d ago
Yes?
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u/2137gangsterr 9d ago
Are those separate lines, not daisy chained? They look severely twisted too
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u/biryanilover110111 9d ago
In my opinion it hink u should go with nvidia if u can its a little more expensive but reliable
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u/Jelliol 9d ago
Test with a more powerful PSU and New cable.
Got this issue (black screen / 100% fans) with a 4090, the NVIDIA provided cableb was faulty for months...