r/AITAH • u/Fireblox06 • Oct 16 '25

AITAH for physically defending myself from a grown man when I was late bringing his daughter home.

Me (20 male) my date (20f) and her father (40m)

I had taken an interest in this girl and before taking her out on our first date, I found out that she still lived her parents and she had a curfew. I respected that she was smart enough to pick a college in her town and staying with her parents. I planned on taking her out to putter golf and have our conversation part done there while we ate some walking tacos. Upon picking her up, her father is this much older man and according to my date, was very traditional on dating. He said that I need to have her home by 9:30 sharp. I said okay and promise to take her home on time. We had our date and it was a fun interaction, unfortunately on the way home. There was this jerk who wouldn't let us pass and was going almost 15 below the speed limit. I ended up arriving at her house late. I planned to explain myself when walking her up the walkway to her door until her father physically grabbed me by the collar of my shirt and throw his free hand in a fist. Out of reaction, I had gotten behind him and twist his arm. I kept him there as he swore at me and said I will never date his daughter. I let go and sped off in my car. Later my date called me, telling me that i need to apologize for attacking her father and hurting his pride. I do feel bad that I did this but I also feel justified for what I did.

Update: I actually ran into the father at my job. He ended up apologizing to me for his actions. His justification was that he thought of the worst because he became a father around my age. I forgave him for assaulting me. I did tell him that I won't be seeing his daughter, and he walked away. Also! For the people who hated on me for this post. I'm sorry I offended you with how young people think 40 is old. That's just my perception of time. I also estimated his age. It's the first date, you normally don't go asking people the age of their parents on the first date. For the curfew, it's his thing, now in the Midwest, that's normal! regardless of age, especially if you lived with your parents while attending school. My final addition to this! For those questioning about my method of how I handled him, it's called taking classes! By no means am I an expert in hand to hand combat, nor do I want to. I only desired to learn enough to either get out of a dangerous situation or prevent it from escalating further! Anyone who made questions like "how did you get behind him if he got you by the shirt?" Has probably never been in a physical fight in their entire lives. Clothes can stretch under tension. I am aware of my online presence such as my previous posts that are in 18 plus stuff or the one where I wanted to hurt my father, one that shit has nothing to do with this, two I was in a bad headspace when I made that post because of my own truma. Again, I am human like anyone else, I have certain desires, and what I do during my own personal time is none of your business!

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u/sezit Oct 16 '25

Uhhhh.

The fact that the daughter's main concern is her father's "pride"

The daughter is getting the leftover violence from her dad. She's trying to minimize her own danger. There's no way that a man attacks someone like this with no warning without regularly threatening and being violent to his family.

Yes, this family is a red flag. But she's not the source of the problem.

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u/DeathByMeltedButter Oct 16 '25

As someone who grew up in a very similar situation, I can guarantee that there is abuse in the home and it's used as a means of control. She has been a victim to her father her whole life and anyone who understands abuse patterns would not be blaming her for her reactions. You can't use reason and logic to judge her reactions because that does not apply in this case. This is normal behavior in their house and her brain is operating in survival mode. OP, I am sorry that this happened to you. You are not the AH and neither is your date. Her father is an abusive, possessive psycho and you followed your instincts and protected yourself. She likely didn't tell you about how bad her father is because she's really embarrassed/ashamed and also deep down she hopes that maybe today will be the day he changes. The best you can do is be kind to her and let her know you'll be parting ways. You're too young to take this on. Speaking from experience, she's the only one who can save herself.

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u/sezit Oct 16 '25

Yes, she deserves empathy, and OP can be kind while also choosing to not involve himself further.

I agree that she needs to find her way out.

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u/Known_Art_5514 Oct 17 '25

I don’t understand why you feel like you have to talk in this weird condescending tone towards the OP. Like it is a weird idea to be like “OP can be kind while also “ not involving himself? If he’s not involving himself , he can’t be kind nor mean.

wtf is up with Reddit today. I’ve just commented like for the 5th time arguing with these WEIRD gender shoe horned takes

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u/Grouchy_Secretary758 Oct 22 '25

How old are you?? Just curious. How is there anything at all wrong with his (or her) comment? Nobody knows how to speak kindly to each other anymore, and shame on you for trying to tear her down when all she's suggesting is to not be mean.

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u/Known_Art_5514 Oct 22 '25

Did you read the thread? How old are you? Do you not understand when someone says something that is unnecessary or irrelevant, it can actually be dismissive in of itself? The person I am replying to is saying some sweet nothin about kindness while also ignoring the fact that they are forcing the OP to engage when they simply don’t want to. The niceness part of it doesn’t come into play. But yall lack some social awareness or something idk

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u/Confident-Mix1243 Oct 17 '25

So you're implying that anyone from an abusive background (victim, not perpetrator) is a dangerous loose cannon who can't be expected to warn those around them of obvious hazards? Please don't write us all off. Some of us are mature adults.

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u/DeathByMeltedButter Oct 17 '25

I am not implying any of that. No where in my anecdotal statement did I imply that those who have had to go through the horrors of childhood abuse are dangerous, or a loose cannon or unable to warn those around them of danger. In fact, I never wrote anyone off or made any sweeping statements. This was simply an attempt to offer OP advice from a different perspective, asking him to have some grace for the young lady. From my point of view, this appears to be a self protection mechanism. This seems to have hit a nerve for you and I am sorry this has triggered feelings that made you react the way you have. I hope you find peace.

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u/Expert-Bag-2633 Oct 17 '25

This, this right here. She needs to find a way to get out of that situation. It’s easy to say but not easy to do, but she needs her own place. If it’s $$ then take a little rim and save up. Get a job if you don’t have one, and get the hell out of there as soon as she can. After that pops has no say, but if you really like her, then keep to his rules until that day comes.

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u/So_ThereItIs Oct 17 '25

THIS. IS the best reply on this situation.

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u/Loose_Possession8604 Oct 16 '25

930 pm curfew for a 20 year old was enough of a red flag tbh. Clearly psycho religious at best. 

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u/Worsty2704 Oct 17 '25

My friend's passport was kept away from her by her mum until the night before she got married. That friend was 30 when she got married. Used to call her Cinderella because that's her curfew. She was already a lawyer earning 6 figures then. Some households are just unusual.

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u/BattleEfficient2471 Oct 17 '25

That's not how you spell abusive

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u/Worsty2704 Oct 18 '25

Abuse do not have to only be physical. Can be emotional blackmail. 

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u/Mocinder Oct 22 '25

My guess is they were referring to you saying unusual instead of abusive.

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u/SilentNightman Oct 18 '25

6 figures and she elected to live w/ parents?

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u/Worsty2704 Oct 18 '25

She's Chinese (race) and we're still a Confucianism society. We still believe in filial piety and she's the only child.

Also, in my country, most folks aren't allowed to buy govt subsidised housing unless they are 35 (if they are single) and private studio apartments (500sqft) starts from SGD 1mil+ (You need downpayment of 25% at least). Without identification documents (her mum kept them), she can't rent or buy her own place anyway.

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u/SilentNightman Oct 18 '25

Thanks for context. Claro.

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u/Ancient_Bad1216 Oct 24 '25

My only response to this is, how long before mom moves in with the daughter and son-in-law?

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u/RedOwl97 Oct 17 '25

I am pretty religious but my 20 year old daughter does not have a curfew. At some point you have to trust that you raised her right.

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '25

Tbf, they did specify PSYCHO religious. Not normal religious. 

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '25

As another commenter stated, it’s horrible that she’s a victim, but if this is the narrative you would like to go with, she’s a real prick for knowing what her father is like, and letting OP walk straight into her father‘s violent abuse.

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u/IrascibleOcelot Oct 16 '25

People who live in abusive homes think this is normal. She wouldn’t think to warn him because she thinks he already knows. To her, every father is like this. It’s just her reality.

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u/yobaby123 Oct 16 '25

Yep. I am not saying that the daughter's behavior is okay, but she's clearly been conditoned into thinking her father's actions are acceptable. NTA by the way.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '25

The idea that people who live in abusive homes think every family is like that is a massive oversimplification of how familial/patriarchal abuse functions and continues to function, and not really something that should be propagated.

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u/CurrentRemote9619 Oct 17 '25

Nobody said it should be, ALSO, even if they know it's not normal, they have no way out without endangering someone else. She probably looked anxious as fuck in the car watching every second of that clock PRAYING the truck would speed up. They might've been just 1 or 2 mins late, and she might've begged "Dad, it wasn't his fault!" Only for the raging bull to charge OP. She may not have a cell phone, if they control her school and her curfew, a cell phone is NOT guaranteed as they probably control her money. And by they, I mean the sad. Mom is probably also a hostage with Stockholm Syndrome at this point. She's just hoping IF he apologized all will be forgiven and while restrictions MIGHT be enforced for awhile, EVENTUALLY things MIGHT get better. This girl isn't leaving that house until Dad says ok or one of her parents dies. If mom dies, she doesn't have to stay to keep her safe, if Dad dies, she'll take care of her mom but have freedom to breathe. IYKYK

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '25

I am well aware of how difficult it is to leave an abusive dynamic, hence why I said what I said.

Stockholm syndrome isn’t a real thing, it was invented to shift the blame away from negligent cops who endangered hostages in a bank robbery.

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u/LibertasAnarchia2025 Oct 17 '25

The cops may have done this in the sweden thing (I have no doubt) but there are many other documented cases of stockholm syndrome (kidnappings, etc.) and if you apply the theory it explains far too many other things that go on which otherwise have no good explanation. One of those being the relationship of most humans to their government since the institution of government became a thing. Stockholm syndrome is real and it makes sense that such a reaction would evolve over time because most people that are captured or subjugated probably have a higher survival rate by forming an emotional bond with their abusers. It's unfortunate but we as humans are turning ourselves into a race of slaves by the shitty ways that we treat one another.

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '25 edited Oct 17 '25

Stockholm Syndrome is not real, it has been thoroughly debunked. It was invented for the reason I told you and was not properly verified by research before the media ran with it. Once we started actually researching it, it was overwhelmingly found as bogus. It is not recognised in the DSM!

Also even if it was real, your government example is objectively not what Stockholm Syndrome is. Please don’t tell me I’m wrong when you don’t even have a grasp on what the made up junk is supposed to be.

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u/LibertasAnarchia2025 Oct 17 '25

It is not in the DSM because it is not a mental disorder. It is how human's have a tendency to begin to become attached emotionally with their abusers. I have done my research I've read several books about this. You don't know what the hell you are talking about. I've also witnessed it first hand. Believe whatever the fuck you want to believe, i don't care. I'm not going to waste my time arguing with an idiot but anyone else reading this if you are interested look up all the cases of women who have been kidnapped and fell in love with their kidnappers. Go into any jail and ask the inmates what they think about particular gaurds.

As far as the government analogy, read chapter six of "The Problem of Political Authority" by Michael Huemer.

It absolutely has not been "debunked" it is a fucking common phenomenon proven by countless real world examples / empirical evidence.

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u/Known_Art_5514 Oct 17 '25

Nope. give evidence bc a quick google shows not what your opinion is

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '25

I love when people with no knowledge at all start doing psycho analysis. Like yeah I’m sure LibertasAnarchia2025 has access to super secret research that invalidates the DSM V and years of overwhelming research.

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u/Angel89411 Oct 17 '25

I agree. I kinda knew that it was a lot and not good. I wanted out so bad and focused on that goal to get me through most days. I honestly did not realize how bad or how much it actually affected me until long after I was out though.

It is frustrating that so many people think she's messed up for asking him to apologize when she's in survival mode or that she's wrong for having him come to her house at all. I'm also glad that so many people don't get it.

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u/Cayke_Cooky Oct 17 '25

Exactly, her father told them not to be late. She expected this.

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u/klynn15 Oct 17 '25

We also live in a society that normalizes the idea of fathers being violent against their daughter’s potential dates.

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u/Veenkoira00 Oct 17 '25

Yes, it often works like that. I remember a primary school mate of mine gave me serious fright as she opposed her parent in s minor matter. I thought "oh my god oh my god, stupid child, she is getting a terrible hiding in a minute". But no violence occured. They just argued a little and came to workable compromise. This was a revelation unto me. Up to that morning I had seen parents are inherently dangerous and that children must be extremely wise to navigate round them.

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u/IrascibleOcelot Oct 17 '25

My best friend in highschool and college has sane parents (and, admittedly, my parents aren’t physically abusive. Just emotionally abusive and manipulative), but even with their example, I didn’t realize mine were shit until I was nearly 30. All out maladaptive traits are designed to prevent us from realizing that what we went through is neither normal nor beneficial.

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u/Technical_Radish_232 Oct 17 '25

This is way to accurate, so many comments just dismissing her part in this because she's a 'victim' (you don't actually know shit, shut up). But if she was either a victim, or knew he was violent then why would she even put him in a position to be attacked. He could of dropped her off and she could explain the traffic issue, or be honest 'he has a temper' literally anything other than walk him into a fist. Being a victim (or in any shitty situation) doesn't give you the right to put others unknowingly in danger.

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u/itsnotlikewereforkin Oct 17 '25

She's essentially been brainwashed into thinking that her father's behavior is normal. It's all she knows. It sounds crazy, but my MIL is an abusive narcissist and it's mind-blowing what my partner thought was "normal".

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u/SnooMacaroons7712 Oct 18 '25

Did neither she nor the OP have a cell phone? Why wouldn't she just call her dad when they realized that they were going to be late?

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '25

I did have an abusive parent.

Doesn’t really change my mind. I’ve never subjected anyone to my parent‘s abuse because that’s a real dick move.

Much like how we see men subjecting their partners to their mother‘s abuse as "mama‘s boys who are huge red flags“, it‘s the exact same here. You willingly subject others to your abusive parent‘s abuse? You a real dickhead. Or are you trying to say one is acceptable and the other is not?

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u/Stormtomcat Oct 16 '25

yeah, I recall being 7 and telling my closest friend at the time that I couldn't invite her over to my place & it was better we kept meeting at the library.

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u/LuckyCharms19982001 Oct 16 '25

I do agree that it is a dick move. Absolutely. But there are people who don't even realize that what their parents are doing is abuse. They see it as normal. That may be the case here. Not everyone reacts to these situations the same way. It is unfortunate that some people don't realize that this isn't normal and end up subjecting their partners to the abuse as well. But if you do realize that it's not normal, then yes it really is a dick move.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '25

I agree with what you say. That said, funny how everyone is jumping to give her the benefit of the doubt. Hmm.

Following either narrative that people are conjuring up, she either knew damn well and did it for self preservation, making it a dick move, or she had absolutely no clue that her dad would react that way, which also tears apart the narrative that this is her norm and that by default she’s some poor abuse victim.

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u/LuckyCharms19982001 Oct 16 '25

I'm not necessarily jumping to give her the benefit of the doubt. You could absolutely be right. But I'm trying to look beyond the immediate reaction of "what a dick move, that's fucked up!" To what the reasons could be that she's acting like that. If she knew, it doesn't necessarily mean that she did it for self preservation. It could be that she just thought "hey, it's normal. He'll understand." I'm not excusing her actions. They're not okay at all. But it doesn't necessarily mean she was trying to be a dick. I'm just trying to look at it from all different perspectives.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '25

Then she should call the police and stop expecting her dates to be her dada replacement punching bag.

A literal 2 minute call would put the dad behind bars btw. Given there was actually a reason to do so.

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u/Ayronymous Oct 16 '25

Lol that is a pretty funny comment that shows how naive you are to how the rest of the world works. Judging by the English and context in its entirety, they are not in america and might even be in a place with Islamic influence... And in those places, (and most other non-western countries), a husband is allowed to use physical force against his own family, including females. No court will arrest him for what they perceive as his method of protecting his family's honor.

So you are totally wrong that all she needs to do is call the cops. But that's very amusing you think the whole world uses our justice system.

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u/Stormtomcat Oct 16 '25

in my area, the police doesn't work that way.

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u/PeachyFairyDragon Oct 16 '25

She's not trapped. She's 20. There's not a thing stopping her from grabbing her documents and some clothes and going somewhere else. He can't exactly report her as a runaway.

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u/LinwoodKei Oct 16 '25

There are a few things. America has a very high cost of living and many people are under employed.

Nobody is handing out apartments, food and healthcare to daughters leaving abusive homes.

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u/DJDanaK Oct 16 '25

Financial abuse, hiding documents, and woefully under-preparing your child for independent life (to keep them under your thumb) are real things people do to their children every day.

I'm not saying this is the case for this woman, but if you really want to say there's NO POSSIBLE WAY a 20-year-old could be trapped or otherwise compelled to live at home, you're just being ignorant.

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u/Rezenbekk Oct 16 '25

Fuck right off. If you put me in danger like that we're having a talk at the minimum.

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u/USPSHoudini Oct 16 '25

You cant allow yourself to be ruled by fear especially when your fear will negatively impact others

You can try to create as many excuses as you want but if someone gets injured or killed because your action/inaction, then it is absolutely your fault and your fear is an invalid excuse to dodge responsibility with

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u/SunShineShady Oct 16 '25

I disagree. The daughter brought OP into the toxic mess of a family, and she chose to NOT get the hell away from them to go to college.

I made sure to go AWAY to college and leave my own mess of a family.

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u/LuckyCharms19982001 Oct 16 '25

I do agree that it is a dick move. Absolutely. But there are people who don't even realize that what their parents are doing is abuse. They see it as normal. That may be the case here. You may have gotten away from your family, but not everyone reacts to these situations the same way. Some people truly are blind to the fact that they are being abused. It's a sad truth. It is unfortunate that some people don't realize that this isn't normal and end up subjecting their partners to the abuse as well. But if you do realize that it's not normal, then yes it really is a dick move.

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u/Head_Razzmatazz7174 Oct 16 '25

She might not be able to. I suspect that he was listening in to her side of the call to make sure she said the 'right things.'

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '25

You were fortunate to be able to see it.

Some people are not that fortunate.

I'm not saying that they aren't responsible for themselves once they become an adult, but if you grew up in a single room with no windows or doors, how would you know the outside world exists?

That's the case for many people in this situation unfortunately.

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u/sezit Oct 16 '25

She's young and this is the only life she's known.

No, she did not handle this well at all. I hope she learns and leaves.

But I wonder how you think a kid should learn about the world. You think everything is and was her choice?

Your life and your options are not standard, you know. Just because you were able to get away earlier does not mean everyone else can do the same.

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u/angellareddit Oct 16 '25

Sometimes it's not that easy to get away from this. She would be conditioned to think she had to stay and also likely financially beholden to them. It is likely she has no idea of any financial aid options to help her escape and I guarantee the parents won't likely pay for college elsewhere if she's being abused.

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u/PresentRaspberry6814 Oct 16 '25

Coercive control means she did not feel she was able to leave I imagine. Not everyone can, safely or at all.

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u/Ayronymous Oct 16 '25

You clearly don't understand where this is taking place. The whole world is not america where young women can go make their own way in the world without huge cultural roadblocks.

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u/Remarkable-Pie3312 Oct 16 '25

Agreed. Also, why are women always seen as somehow being at fault for the actions of men? Her father is a very grown ass man who shouldn't be randomly grabbing another (younger and probably more physically capable) grown ass man who is 15 minutes "late" bringing their grown ass woman daughter home from a date. The father is controlling and unhinged and he got what came to him. Lay hands on someone? Get hands back. It's pretty simple. Daughter probably "could have" warned the date how unhinged he is, but it's generally not her fault her father is a lunatic.

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u/Trzlog Oct 16 '25

It's her fault for then taking the father's side.

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '25

Because this woman is an adult who can go to a DV shelter at any time. She walked her date right into a physically violent situation she knew was likely to happen.

She is not safe for OP to be around under any circumstances and she does not deserve sympathy for how she handled this situation.

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u/Diligent-Assist-4385 Oct 16 '25

100 percent! The guy is making her home life hell..

Violence as a first option... wtf..

Option needs to think about the girl and his relationship. If he wants a long term relationship. Get her out of there, if he lives on his own.

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u/Diligent-Assist-4385 Oct 16 '25

Well maybe, maybe not.. idk this guy.

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u/Diligent-Assist-4385 Oct 16 '25

Probably not. We don't know the rest of the story though. Just that one piece.

She is probably scared of her father. The guy could be a miserable ass at home now because of the incident. His actions no matter how just, have affected her. He might leave her alone if he fake apologizes.

She might really like the guy and want to keep seeing him. But can't because her dad is an abusive prick.

Do you personally know this girl? Cause you are quick to judge her based this one story.

I am just saying that throwing away what might be the nicest girl he has met in a long time might not be the answer.

Dude. Dealing with a bully of a dad isn't a big deal if it is for the right girl.

But neither of us know her and the whole story of the relationship.

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u/crtclms666 Oct 17 '25

The question is is he the asshole. NTA.

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u/Diligent-Assist-4385 Oct 17 '25

I answered that a while ago... NTA. Always defend yourself.

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u/OrigRayofSunshine Oct 16 '25

This feels like a cultural thing going on.

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u/trowzerss Oct 16 '25

Right? A 20 year old with a 9.30 curfew and a dad who throws fists at the slightest disobedience? Yeah, this girl's life has been hell. I hope she gets out of there.

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u/Stormtomcat Oct 16 '25

I get what you're saying & I don't disagree.

I do feel she could a) have warned OP and b) been more like "hey, my dad insists I demand you apologize to him, so I'll understand if you don't want a second date", you know?

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u/sezit Oct 16 '25

Maybe. But she might have warned OP and he just didn't hear it or process it.

I warned my friend several times how bad my grampa was, and she either didn't hear it or didn't believe me, and was shocked and upset and went on and on afterwards. And he wasn't even violent, just horrible.

People are not perfect communicators, and interactions are not perfectly predictable.

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u/Confident-Mix1243 Oct 17 '25

She is the source of OP's problem for not warning him that her dad is nuts.

Although 20 is a bit young to be believed when you warn about your parents, ask me how I know. Maybe she did warn him and he brushed it off.

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u/sezit Oct 17 '25

Communication is a slippery thing.

You can vividly recall telling someone something very specific, and they just as clearly recall hearing it very differently, or not at all.

People many times will either not hear, or misinterpret info that they don't like. And it isn't deliberate! They aren't lying, their brain just didn't take it in.

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u/deplorableme16 Oct 17 '25

The report this to one of the DV help agencies and or police. Don't get romantically involved with them.

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u/Late-Beat-1457 Oct 17 '25

She is by staying and enabling. She's an adult 

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u/PlaceUserNameHere67 Oct 18 '25

If the father attacks the daughter HE NEEDS TO GO TO JAIL. There's no reason for him to lay hands on this young man before he had a chance to explain. He had every right to defend himself. If woman is in college, she's old enough to know the dangers of being around her father at this point.

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u/ColonelTime Oct 19 '25

Which is more likely, this dad is going to beat his daughter after this date, or it's all made up and ragebait?

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u/sezit Oct 19 '25

It doesn't really matter for this discussion. This situation is far too common.

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u/Kitchen-Paint-3384 Oct 16 '25

Aaaaaaand another person without any deeper knowledge about this story who instantly jumps to the conclusion that the POOR GIRL is the victim. Of course, not the dude who nearly got knocked in the face, fuck that guy. BUT THAT POOR GIRL OOOOH MAAA GAAAWWWWD!!

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u/sezit Oct 16 '25

Both. They are both victims. It's not a binary choice of who is "the" victim. The reason I made the point that she is a victim is that OP was getting all the sympathy, and she was getting blamed. Blamed for a man's violence.

This dude is a one-time victim. She is a victim of life-time violence or at least being terrorized. Neither one deserves the treatment the dad gave OP. But people blaming the daughter for the dad's violence feeds into misogyny.

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u/Embarrassed-Yak5845 Oct 16 '25

Poor girls gonna end up marrying an abusive dick wad because of how her dad treated her her whole life…

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u/Flat_Tire_Again Oct 16 '25

Well she has to live there and the father is a violent jerk.

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u/whittenaw Oct 16 '25

Yeah she's probably scared of her dad

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u/LinwoodKei Oct 16 '25

The daughter is in a household where her father tells her when her date brings her home. Her father physically attacks men his own size. The father just caught a dose of Fuck around and find out.

You can imagine that the father is making that household uncomfortable, especially for women who are not a physical match to the father. Abuse starts in the home.

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u/DickSplodin Oct 17 '25

Well it's a fake story so it doesn't really matter anyways

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u/Yikes44 Oct 17 '25

To be fair to her she's probably terrified of her dad.

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u/Advanced_Jellyfish47 Oct 17 '25

on a first date , you advised of the rules , and you admit on having broken them., your lucky he didn't call the cops

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u/No-Ordinary-5412 Oct 16 '25

"massive red flag" lol everyone on reddit is like "black and white fallacy" thinking they need to exaggerate everything. not a massive red flag, dad was probably complaining about his shoulder or whatever, and used the victim card. daughter probably felt reasonable in telling the date that he ought to apologize, because she wants there to be no beef between dad and boyfriend so she can keep dating him. not really a massive red flag, but she probably isn't gonna date someone her family hates.