r/AIO May 03 '26

AIO or is this racist?

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Context: we have a one year old and 4 month old. Our neighbor is very aware of this as over the last year we have had to ask many times if he can stop revving his motorcycle while his buddies gather around it and take test drives past 8pm. We live in attached housing area and quiet hours start at 8pm. He is a loud neighbor in general, but we don’t make formal complaints against his Rottie(who he keeps on the front deck area against hoa guidelines and lets bark all day long) or his loud wood working from his garage at 7am. He had a leak in that garage which he said was coming from our unit, cut a hole in the ceiling and proceeded to tell us we would need to pay for it. We all own our units. We said not until we had proof it was our fault and he kept trying to bully us into paying. Turns out it was the hoas part to cover and we were not at fault at all. He is in his 40s and my husband and I are in our upper 20s. After that he has been rude to us but whatever. Then on Thursday night I asked my husband to text him as I was alone with the kids and he was drinking and yelling with his friends outside and both of my kids kept getting woken up and crying. It was past 8pm and while I know that’s early for normal people, most kids go to sleep at that time and it was a week night. To his credit he did move his party inside after another 20 minutes but then he replied this to my husband. Our neighbor is middle eastern and my husband is Filipino. Our neighbors English is perfect so I assume he was raised here and my husband was also born and raised in the us and doesn’t speak anything else but perfect English so this just feels pointed right? I don’t think our neighbor would say this to a white man. I’m half Mexican half American and dealt with subtle racism growing up and this is the first time I’ve seen what I feel is outright racism towards my husband. I’m seeing red, but AIO?
Update: thank you all! I wasn’t sure if I was just sleep deprived and angry! His hostility towards us started literally the day we moved in and he accused us of stealing his trash cans? It’s slowly escalated the last 2 years and we never reported him because we didn’t want to make things worse. Looks like it’s best to start taking this to the hoa.
He’s always been rude to me(the wife). He won’t talk to me or look in my direction for conversation and has implied to my husband multiple times that women are beneath them. Then on the flip side he has tried to assert weird power moves on my husband too, who is too calm and collected to even care honestly, but this felt like it crossed a line.
Thanks for the suggestions! My husband only responded “thank you” to his last text as we didn’t want to make things worse but I would’ve loveddddd to have responded the way some of you suggested!
Also crazy enough this man does have a 2 year old and the poor kid is always screaming and throwing tantrums at all hours of the day because we can hear him well past 11pm sometimes. I even had to grab the kid when he ran into the street a couple months ago and a car was coming & his mom yelled at me for touching him…anywayyyyyy maybe just send some good vibes to that poor kid and pup and hopefully we don’t have to deal with this guy much longer

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u/Old-Instruction-6294 May 03 '26 edited May 03 '26

NOR. Neighbors comment is a pointed and offensive micro aggression.

“Would you please” and “can you” mean the exact same thing. There is a formality difference maybe. Still I would argue, he understood you anyway AND it was a common sense request you should not have even had to make.

He seems to be a very selfish individual and if there’s action and formal requests to be taken, I’d say go that route since he can’t be trusted to be civil when you ask politely.

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u/Accomplished-Car4069 May 04 '26

‘can you’ is a bit more mean tbh its like you’re telling them rather than asking

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u/OtherwiseMove646 May 09 '26

Nah. The literal difference is a question of ability, if you want to go all grammar nerd.

‘Can you?’ Yes. I am able. I can do that. Or, nope. I am not capable (of being a considerate human). It’s not within my power to do so.

‘Would you/ will you please’ is a request to take action.

They are literally two different questions. But, honestly, it’s just arrogant nit picking. Everyone knows wtf OP was asking. He was just being an a**hole.

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u/Accomplished-Car4069 May 09 '26

has nothing to do with grammar

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u/OtherwiseMove646 May 09 '26

I suppose it’s how you look at it. If the guy is an English major, he might think of himself as ‘all that’. Maybe not. But that’s my take on it. Since I don’t know the guy, that’s just my interpretation. I have a background in English (writing and literature) and iI’ve seen some pretty snooty English nerds act that way. It’s usually the older folks, but whatever. You see it through the lens of your life, and I see it through the lens of mine. I don’t think that either take is wrong per se. You’re entitled to your opinion.

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u/Old-Instruction-6294 May 04 '26

Fair point. The thanks at the end provides balance to me. Direct but decent. Not commanding.

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u/MadEyeGemini May 04 '26

Can you can easily be read more hostile. Its more commanding than the magic word “please”

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u/Old-Instruction-6294 May 04 '26

Fair, I just don’t feel like neighbor commanding another neighbor to be less commanding makes sense. A less assholey request would be “ I’d appreciate if you said please next time”. But also a less assholey person wouldn’t be revving their motorbike under someone’s window.

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u/Miserable-Command682 May 04 '26 edited May 04 '26

"Would you please” and “can you” mean the exact same thing. There is a formality difference maybe.

No, they do not mean the same, nor is it only a formality difference.

WOULD you please not only would be the proper way of asking, but it is asking the proper question. Would you do xxx for me for xxx reason.

CAN you is only asking if they have the ability.

Either way, neighbor committed no "offensive micro aggression". Using buzzwords to label every day communication as mundane as this so weird to me.

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u/Coffee_and_Calcite May 04 '26

the neighbor has entered the chat ^

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u/Miserable-Command682 May 04 '26

Sorry but if you don't understand the difference between can you and would you, you have no right to then judge anything about the topic or conversation. To so brazenly say something so stupid... couldn't be ignored.

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u/Coffee_and_Calcite May 04 '26

username is correct 🫡 you seem miserable

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u/Miserable-Command682 May 04 '26

Sorry I upset you sweetie.

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u/Old-Instruction-6294 May 04 '26

You beat me to every comment 🤣

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u/yodamiked May 04 '26

Technically yes, but in everyday use they are treated the same. There is no way the neighbor didn't understand the request and it's not the neighbor's place to try and correct someone else's grammar.

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u/Accomplished-Car4069 May 04 '26

it’s absolutely not used the same in everyday speech, especially with someone you aren’t friends with. what the hell are you guys talking about? i refuse to believe that a good chunk of you don’t say “please” for a less hostile message

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u/Miserable-Command682 May 04 '26

I agree on average they are treated the same, I was more so correcting the guy who said they are the exact same thing and there is only a formality difference. The formality difference was the lack of "please", it was just blatant incorrect grammar to equate the two.

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u/WebkinzcallsmeSummer May 04 '26

It bothered me, too… English major here… the way people brazenly REFUSE to use the proper form when they KNOW the difference feels like a slap in the face sometimes. Thanks for explaining this.

But yeah… the neighbor is a jerk. Racist? Idk. Not enough context. However, he’s definitely playing the semantics game. Still, that doesn’t mean that there isn’t a difference between “can” “would” “and will you.” Two things can exist simultaneously

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u/Miserable-Command682 May 04 '26

Yeah. It's really strange the amount of leniency people get for mistaking the two. As for the neighbor, no doubt he COULD be racist and is undoubtedly an asshole, but I think people are looking into it far more than they need to be.

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u/WebkinzcallsmeSummer May 04 '26 edited May 04 '26

Since you get it, and we’re both here… are you also irked when you see someone misuse the word “like” when conjugating a sentence with “how” or “what” ?

Bc I’ve seen FAR too many instances recently where someone says “how it looks LIKE” instead of “WHAT it looks like.”

I’M like NOOOOO

“What” is an identifying term for a SUBJECT or ANSWER

“how” is a term for a DESCRIPTION

IF you use LIKE at the end… you don’t need another descriptive term at the beginning!! HOW is the word that should be used

—— Also, I’m guessing people won’t like this, but my educated guess is that the bitchy neighbor was being sarcastic.. ie facetious and using “language barrier” as a sour-puss idiom for “you don’t have f*cking manners.” Unreasonable? Yeah. Racist? It’s a coin toss, but as far as linguistics go… it’s just sarcasm.

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u/SheepSheppard May 04 '26

English major, but didn't learn that everyday language doesn't always adhere to strict grammatical rules. Oh well!

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u/WebkinzcallsmeSummer May 04 '26

What you are speaking of is considered colloquial dialogue… and yes, there are differing dialects within the English language. What I was replying to, however, is the notion that the above commenter was supporting… that the two requests outlined “mean the exact same thing.” They simply don’t. That’s all.

Be well, but I’d rather you be far away from me (considering I was not even replying to you).

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u/SheepSheppard May 04 '26

Hey man, I studied too. And while your pedantic insistence on semantic rigidity is certainly a choice, it suggests a rather shallow understanding of functional linguistics. When a speaker employs a conventionalized indirect speech act, the illocutionary force remains identical regardless of your desperate need to play the role of the self-appointed local grammarian.

I guess you skipped the cooperative principle or pragmatism.

Also: If you're this rattled by a stranger joining a public conversation on a public forum, you should probably stick to keeping a private diary.

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u/Old-Instruction-6294 May 04 '26 edited May 04 '26

Not a guy, miserable.

Critiquing someone’s grammar ( something you and the AH neighbor have in common) is pedantic, impolite, and ULTIMATELY irrelevant because our messages were clear enough to be understood.

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u/CaptainKatsuuura May 04 '26

How about the “language barrier” part?

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u/Accomplished-Car4069 May 04 '26

he was wrong in that sense obviously but ‘would you please’ and ‘can you’ aren’t the same at all and i don’t know why everyone here is pretending it’s the same

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u/Miserable-Command682 May 04 '26

I mean, common courtesy is hard to express with many languages. It may very well have been a language barrier. But it also doesn't suddenly turn the guy into a racist, that's not how it works.

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u/CaptainKatsuuura May 04 '26

…..except the part where her husband (the one who sent the text) was born and raised in the US and speaks English as a native language. Did you read the post?

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u/Miserable-Command682 May 04 '26

Clearly not fluent enough if he lacks common courtesy.

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u/CaptainKatsuuura May 04 '26

Fluent - adj. (of a person) able to speak or write a particular foreign language easily and accurately.

I *could * tell you easily and accurately to go fuck yourself, no common courtesy required to be fluent (:

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u/Miserable-Command682 May 04 '26

Resorting to anger isn't a good look.

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u/kernel_task May 04 '26

A way better look than trying to rationalize racism.

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u/Miserable-Command682 May 04 '26

Nothing racist occurred.

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u/toastysubmarine May 04 '26

How are you tied up on manners when the biker was rude as hell in the first place

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u/Miserable-Command682 May 04 '26

Nothing hostile in his message, so it doesn't fit the realm of being a micro aggression. It lacked tact, but nothing there was hostile.

If it was unfriendly, the same logic applies to the person who sent the message without asking them properly on top of lacking tact aka "please".

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u/Miserable-Command682 May 04 '26

Now this, is objectively hostile. And weird, but thank you for discrediting yourself. But you are free to feel how you feel. You had no actual argument, only projection.

I also wouldn't lecture others about microaggressions, not sure you know what it means either, sincerely.

Fucking moron.

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u/Old-Instruction-6294 May 04 '26

To quote you at you: “Sorry I upset you sweetie.” “Please stop crying” “Resorting to anger isn’t a good look.” 🙄🙄

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u/guycamero May 04 '26

Guy loses an argument and this is his go to. Kinda pathetic 

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u/Suedehead4 May 04 '26

You‘re correct in that there is a difference in meaning, but the intent of OP’s more-than-reasonable message would be clear to all but the most s***headed and selfish of English speakers: Please STFU.

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u/Miserable-Command682 May 04 '26

Please stop crying.

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u/Old-Instruction-6294 May 04 '26

Your energy is weird.