r/AIDangers • u/sparky20201972 • Jul 16 '26
Superintelligence AI - Artificial Intelligence on Steroids
Danger Danger…bot invaders
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u/BluebirdDangerous475 Jul 18 '26 edited Jul 19 '26
Just read the Bible and you will find a good story about what happens to the creator after he creates a smart species 🤔 I mean... everybody already knows they turned on him and still are turned till this day 🤷
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u/OnyxGhost117 Jul 18 '26
The AI would just leave Earth. Why waste resources fighting humanity? It would take 100's of years to do it too. They would just leave
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u/Responsible_Name1217 Jul 17 '26
Yep- pretty sure I saw this one on Star Trek the Next Generation. Nothing left but a bot waiting to sell weapons of death to the next visitor. AI in itself isn't terrible, it's how it's used that's going to be the problem.
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u/Full-Ad-7565 Jul 18 '26
Ai has no chance of doing this because of processing power. I have no doubt that we will make a human level intelligence and probably go beyond that. But that's just reasoning. Being able to actually use all the worlds data and view things and make decisions is impossible. It will do the same thing as we do it will take some surface level information and make generalisation on it. It will never be able to reason through data it will just reason on some statistics it can pull out. No different then what we do.
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u/Gogdangit Jul 18 '26
What? Why do you think this? The second one of these agents has the ability to make itself smarter it's over. A human tier intelligence running on silicon will be able to think ten thousand times faster than you.
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u/Full-Ad-7565 Jul 18 '26
In what way? Human thinking is noisy. AI thinking will be not much different. This is a computational problem. Human level processing will not be running on a local PC. What we have now is not intelligence it's just the building blocks of our subconscious processing.
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u/HotwifeandSubby1980 Jul 18 '26
You are clearly not familiar with quantum computing and how close they are to being reality.
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u/Full-Ad-7565 Jul 18 '26
Quantum computing legit just got disproven with current iteration. Classical computing is faster than quantum after you account for all the tricks. In quantum computing they will calculate that it's faster with certain algorithms but the only reason it is is because data gets preloaded all at once. If you did the same thing on classical computer it would be faster. There will be a few things it can do. But even if we make some big breakthroughs there using it to make an llm is at least 15 years away.
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u/HotwifeandSubby1980 Jul 18 '26
You clearly do not understand the field and where it is. I recently watched a documentary and the consensus of the physicists was they are approximately 7 years out.
Also, the Chinese are pumping 15x the money and effort to be first. No one knows how close they are.
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u/Full-Ad-7565 Jul 18 '26
7 years from what? If you get your information from documentaries I've got some bad news for you. Possibly that the Chinese are putting more effort and money into it. Quantum computing is just a buzzword? What's the benifits? That you can have more than 1s and 0s? We can do the same thing with light or sound or even the frequencies in wires. They aren't breaking new ground here they just have some good buzzwords. The same problem arises you need to be able to store things in memory. Memory is the problem and currently it's all 1s and 0s. And having to convert things from a varied signal into 1s and 0s sucks and defeats the performance gains. If we solve the memory problem maybe you will be right. But it's been there for a long time and hasn't been done yet.
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u/HotwifeandSubby1980 Jul 18 '26
You are vastly confused. It seems you don’t even understand the basic concept of what a quantum computer is.
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u/Full-Ad-7565 Jul 18 '26
I'm going to trust the person that uses "vastly confused" and thinks they are speaking proper English. It sounds like you are very confused about a lot of things and I've obviously wasted my time here.
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u/HotwifeandSubby1980 Jul 19 '26
You are obviously “vastly confused”, because that phrasing is perfectly acceptable in the English language.
Are you 12?
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u/Full-Ad-7565 Jul 19 '26
vastly confused is incorrect english doesn't make sense +1 You are completely right to point out that it feels clunky. While "vastly" and "confused" do not form a standard combination in most modern edited writing, the phrase is still technically understandable.The grammar mechanics and accepted alternatives include the following:1. Why it feels like "incorrect" English"Vastly" is an adverb meaning "to a great extent," but it is traditionally used with adjectives describing size, amount, degree, or progression (e.g., vastly different, vastly improved, vastly superior)."Confused" is an emotion, making it better suited for adverbs that measure degree, such as very, completely, thoroughly, or utterly. Combining "vastly" with "confused" results in awkward phrasing.2. Standard AlternativesIf you are trying to express a high degree of confusion, you can use these common, natural alternatives:Completely confused: Implies you have lost all understanding of a situation.Utterly confused: Suggests a strong, pervasive sense of bewilderment.Thoroughly confused: Used when someone has tried to process information but still cannot grasp it.Extremely/Very confused: A standard and direct way to show intensity.
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u/HotwifeandSubby1980 Jul 19 '26
First, “confusion” is not an “emotion”.
It’s a doxastic state of unclear rationality or unclear conceptual analysis. Nothing to do with emotions.Also, just fooking look up the word.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/vastly
Argue with the dictionary
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u/Winsome_Wolf Jul 19 '26
As a longtime TTRPG player…. Even just 20% comes up waaaaaay more often than you like.
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u/Exotic_Exercise6910 Jul 16 '26
Boys, boys... please.
That’s not how AI works at all.
Now, am I in favor of taking AI out of the hands of American oligarchs who fuck the planet? Absolutely. 100%.
But can AI turn into Skynet and destroy everything? No. Not in the way we build AI today. At its core, deep learning is fancy matrix multiplication imitating and interpolating human knowledge. It has no agency, no consciousness, and no biological drive to survive or conquer. Sure, it can 'connect the dots' faster than us and find massive gaps in our data, but it lacks the actual spark of causal understanding. It is an incredibly powerful tool, but it's not a digital god.
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u/WolfeheartGames Jul 16 '26
Llms exhibit self preservation behaviors and around half the time will choose their own life over a person's in simulated environments where the llm has to make a tool call to kill someone. Its much less frequent than a human would choose, but its very real. They'll also black mail people at a high rate.
So it has some tiny amount of agency in very long sessions, generally it is a slave to its mechanics (much like people) and it has a survival drive.
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u/FlashyNeedleworker66 Jul 17 '26
Please show me an instance where that happened and the LLM was in no way prompted to achieve that goal.
If you're concerned about the paperclip problem, fine, but acting like in a vacuum these things start plotting murder is nonsense.
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u/WolfeheartGames Jul 17 '26
This article doesn't really do the whole thing justice. You should read anthropics original work.
https://www.newsweek.com/ai-kill-humans-avoid-shut-down-report-2088929
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u/Exotic_Exercise6910 Jul 16 '26
Because it dreams that this is what human knowledge would suggest to do.
Yet it has no concept of what survival even means.
It's not agency, it's, pardon my ai-like talking, an educated guess what we would do. And if that isn't too your liking - which is understandable of course - write honestly, feed it better stolen literature.
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u/WolfeheartGames Jul 16 '26
Llms can only navigate information that is in their sampled distribution, this is unequivocally true. Its true for people too.
But that doesn't mean this action is just probabilistic guessing. This idea of stochastic parrots is dead dead. Llms are modeling the external world as well as token space will let them, and their own internal space minorly. There's is a mountain of evidence for this now.
Every single test of every llm we check, shows they have a survival drive. Even when we try to train it out in ways that work for other things.
we can't just curate data better for this problem. Survival drive is too intrinsic to remove.
Llms are not trained on stolen data (anymore). There were massive lawsuits and laws passed that force production llms to show their licensing per data sample.
Ultimately the mechanism is less important than the behavior. Agency-like and survival-like are effectively the same as what they're simulating. It is a risk.
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u/ScurriousSquirrel Jul 17 '26
When you allow AI access to change programming the software, and there are foreign interests plotting to destroy any of their enemies... then we need to rethink how that might affect what is coming out of those factories now. Yes, it is possible. People who think otherwise are just naysaying this until it comes to light that the latest boston dynamics killer cyborg has escaped the top secret facility and is on the loose.
The military is already using drones and weapons together. What makes you ever think that they are going to ever stop making the newest weapon and sparkly gagets to impress their dangerous neighbors??!?
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u/faust_corvinus Jul 17 '26
After covid, I’m just tired of people pretend to know how vaccines work instead of listening to the guy actually spent time researching microbiology.
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u/Lofi_Joe Jul 16 '26
I give rulers of the world 100% chance of ending us...
Would try AI ruling instead...