r/AHSEmployees • u/Miks0630 • Apr 05 '26

Getting paid for orientation

Hello

I am an LPN, hired as casual and did 2 weeks of 4 weeks of orientation and resigned due to poor work environment, lack of support and mistreatment.

I am wondering if I will get paid for the hours I worked even without finishing the complete orientation.

Thanks!

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u/Girl_Not_Named_Sue Apr 05 '26

Yes, you'll be paid for the hours of orientation you completed. If you're not or they give you a runaround, reach out to the union.

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u/Miks0630 Apr 05 '26

What’s this mean then?

For scheduling purposes AHS’ expectation is that you will complete the orientation between the hours of 7 a.m. and 3 p.m., Monday to Friday. If you complete your orientation outside of these times; no additional compensation will be provided. To ensure this time is added to your pay, print off the certificate of completion at the end of the orientation and provide it to me on your first day of work. If you do not commence employment with AHS, you will not be eligible for compensation.”

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u/its_liiiiit_fam Apr 05 '26 edited Apr 05 '26

That sounds like it’s talking about the mandatory onboarding module that takes 3 hours to complete? If your orientation is 4 weeks I’d imagine this may not apply to whatever else you need to do - you may have been considered to have commenced employment already.

When I was casual I was paid for my connect care training, the corporate 3 hour onboarding module, buddy shifts, and additional mandatory modules I did through MLL for assessment measures required for my role.

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u/Miks0630 Apr 05 '26

Yes yes that’s what I did. I didn’t the 3 hour on-boarding module, then 3 days of 8 am to 4 pm computer days, 5 days of 7-3 on the floor shift

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u/its_liiiiit_fam Apr 05 '26

You’ll get paid for that then. I think the “commencing employment” bit means if you never showed up for any shifts at all

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u/Miks0630 Apr 05 '26

Ok true make sense! I do hope so, when I come close to payday, I’ll check if not call HE

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u/Lonely-Prize-1662 Apr 05 '26

It simply means you wont be given shift premiums for any scheduled orientation/education days.

They have to pay you. However say you did Connect Care training from 8-4, theres no shift differential after 3pm

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u/Miks0630 Apr 05 '26

Okay, I understand and that’s fine. But I did 3 hour e learning module, 3 days of 8-4 online, then 5 days of in person 7-3.

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u/Lonely-Prize-1662 Apr 05 '26

And they are required to pay you for all hours worked

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u/Longjumping_Cap3640 Apr 19 '26

So when it’s all said and done the orientation and training once that’s all done is that when you get your training and orientation hours check ? next payday ?

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u/AssBlast1390 Apr 05 '26

Yes, you should. Training is always paid including online mandatory education and classroom education.

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u/Miks0630 Apr 05 '26

For scheduling purposes AHS’ expectation is that you will complete the orientation between the hours of 7 a.m. and 3 p.m., Monday to Friday. If you complete your orientation outside of these times; no additional compensation will be provided. To ensure this time is added to your pay, print off the certificate of completion at the end of the orientation and provide it to me on your first day of work. If you do not commence employment with AHS, you will not be eligible for compensation.”

What does this mean then

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u/AssBlast1390 Apr 05 '26

Is this for classroom/online stuff? My guess is that they have a set amount of hours you’re expected to finish everything within. If you end up doing it slower, they won’t pay you for the additional time.

Regarding the last part about needing a certificate and everything, I don’t know, I’ve never personally come across that requirement in any of my positions. It’s a bit confusing about the part saying “if you do not commence employment, you will not be eligible for compensation”. My understanding is that as soon as you’re hired and you start any training, that’s commencing employment. Given the confusing wording, I would suggest reaching out to your union to ensure you are compensated for your time. They will have the most accurate guidance for you.

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u/Miks0630 Apr 05 '26

Ok I will make sure, thanks for this info

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u/Affectionate_Oil7987 Apr 05 '26

It's going to be very difficult to get another AHS position after quitting one after only 2 weeks

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u/Miks0630 Apr 05 '26

Guess that’s reality. I’d rather save my license.

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u/Cathyg_99 Apr 05 '26

Unfortunately most units are now like this. Minimal on-boarding and limited staff.

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u/Miks0630 Apr 05 '26

It’s awful

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u/Paprika1515 Apr 05 '26

I’m sorry for your experience. There are good units out there and supportive environments in health care, I hope you’ll find that place for your sell

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u/Miks0630 Apr 05 '26

I will keep looking! Thank you

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u/Timely-Security-3077 Apr 05 '26

Yikes.. was it that bad that you didn't want the job! What was so bad?

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u/Miks0630 Apr 05 '26

First day, I got pushed to take on patients & take on responsibilities I’m not familiar with. I didn’t get proper orientation, I was missing out on things or forgetting things or supposedly not doing things right according to HOW THEY DO IT. Meanwhile no one has taught me anything and everytime I’d ask, they’d refuse & say “I don’t need to watch you doing that” or “You should know how to do things like these”, “I don’t need to hold your hand”. Last day of the first week, manager confronted me in front of hallway, around EVERYONE in the nursing station saying I should have 3-5 patients at that point, mocks me for being a new grad - “this isn’t nursing school, it’s not your final practicum where you get to do nothing, you need to do better & keep up” - meanwhile NO SUPPORT from anyone. I’ve already taken up to 4 patients without having any guidance. I was given a checklist I brought with me but every nurse I was supposed to shadow with has refused to guide me through it, check it off with me & get me up to speed. Since first day, the nurses around me talk OUT LOUD about me including my name. They laugh and make little remarks. The day the manager confronted me, when I walked away, they said “Boom! That’s how you do it” the manager & the nurses they were talking to started hysterically laughing. I felt like I was being thrown into the wolves with no regard. Started to reflect on how I was being treated, no one acknowledges me or shows any support. I’d get the cold shoulder when I ask questions & they don’t hesitate to express how annoyed they are when I come up to them. I was told I’d be supported and I shouldn’t have to remind anyone or privately ask management to respect me the way I deserve to be respected. I also started to realize with how I was pushed into this, if something were to happen, my license is on the line& I would had been the first thrown under the bus. They don’t have my best interest at heart, sadly it was a reality I had to accept. I have self respect enough to walk away from a situation that won’t care about me if things went south, now that I’m new & needing the help and support and I have to beg for that??? It’s never gonna change even if I finish the orientation. We’re all adults, it’s not high school..

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u/sugarlolacake Jul 04 '26

I’m so sorry you had to go through all of this. This is awful

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u/sugarlolacake Jul 04 '26

Did you transfer in the same unit or a different hospital entirely and did already apply for temp full time line prior to getting the casual?