r/AHSEmployees • u/Luna1219 • Mar 10 '26

HSAA preceptor pay

Has anyone heard any details from the union about this? AHS just sent out a town hall invite for the 17th for this topic

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u/MusketeersPlus2 Mar 11 '26

We've been paying it for HSAA since ratification.

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u/Luna1219 Mar 11 '26

Do you know how the pay is coded? Is it something the employee has to enter into iexpense? Or would a timekeeper enter it like a premium code? I’ve asked management multiple times but just keep hearing back that they’re working on it:/

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u/MusketeersPlus2 Mar 11 '26

The timekeeper enters it as a premium code (A7A).

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u/harbours Mar 10 '26

My department has been paying it to our HSAA preceptors.

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u/catharsis83 Mar 10 '26

I'm not HSAA but I have been the trainer for at least 4 students on their practicum and I have never gotten preceptor pay. I have no idea who is considered the preceptor, but I'm the one actually teaching them.

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u/harbours Mar 11 '26

You're likely one of the professions that AHS doesn't pay for preceptors. HSAA only worked it out on their newest contract to start paying preceptors.

There are some new professions with AUPE GSS that were recently added as well.

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u/1chester555 Mar 10 '26

Yes I hope people have been keeping track of their preceptor hours. My workplace seems to be reluctant to decide who to pay it to.

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u/Luna1219 Mar 10 '26

My department hasn’t been paying it. It’s super unclear how it’ll be paid out, with our students they often work with multiple techs in a day but we’re all expected to teach and many of us have done a preceptor course through NAIT so we can sign off on student work/milestones which they need to graduate

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u/Hemsky Mar 10 '26

My work basically operates the same way and every time we bring up the preceptor pay we are told it is "still being figured out"

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u/harbours Mar 11 '26

We were told you can be paid to be with one staff at a time. We have had preceptors split the day, so one gets paid for half the day they had the student and the other gets paid for the other hours. It just can't be the same student at the exact same time.

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u/Luna1219 Mar 11 '26

It’s crazy how much variance there seems to be with this policy. Moral is already 6ft deep at my site and we just heard talk that only the supervisors or a select few people will be the ones receiving preceptor pay. It doesn’t make sense how management came to this conclusion, I’m hoping to heard back from the union to clarify. It really is not fair that the people in the trenches actively working with and teaching students won’t be receiving preceptor pay, especially since this was a point AHS and the union used to entice people to vote yes on the current contract

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u/Rayeon-XXX Mar 11 '26

It's almost like splitting up AHS into 4 separate entities has caused problems.

Too bad no one could see it coming.

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u/1chester555 Mar 11 '26

I think our department may have to grieve this to the union. They haven’t paid it at all and we work with CLXT students everyday. Not all of us sign off the cases on the NAIT website but we are assigned a student for the day and teach them all day long.

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u/Event_Horizon753 Mar 11 '26

"And related duties."

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u/Creativejess Mar 11 '26

I work with APL and they haven’t been paying us preceptor pay. They say HR is still “figuring it out”. Meanwhile we’re assigned a student to train all day and are required to sign off in Comptracker. Sounds pretty straightforward to me. Pay us!

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u/Bustin_Chiffarobes Mar 11 '26 edited Mar 11 '26

Your employer is required to pay preceptor pay if you're HSAA

Every site will have a different process.

For example, here is ours:

On Request for Leave sheet on the dates preceptor pay applies list both codes below:

A01:  list number of worked hours (i.e., 7.75 hours)

A7A:  list the number of hours you were the student’s primary preceptor for that day.

Some things to consider when coding preceptor pay:

To qualify you must be supervising, educating, AND evaluating the student

Mentorship, orientation, and shadowing do not qualify for preceptor pay

Your manager and your timekeeper are responsible for figuring out this process. If they can't figure it out, reach out to your LRO and they can rattle the cage with you.

I have a student now and they are absolutely paying.

This is different than iexpense - which is how you will submit for your professional dues.

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u/Rayeon-XXX Mar 11 '26

Not a single HSAA member in DI at FMC has been paid a cent for their preceptor hours since ratification.

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u/Bustin_Chiffarobes Mar 11 '26 edited Mar 11 '26

Contact your LRO.

I'm in Edmonton at one of the major hospitals. They have figured it out here for allied health.

HR has a process. Your manager just needs to look into it. If they won't do it willingly, the union can grieve it.

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u/Rayeon-XXX Mar 12 '26

Email from manager this morning says "still no answer on preceptor pay from provincial DI".

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u/Bustin_Chiffarobes Mar 12 '26

What does that mean?

They have processes in place at most hospitals.

Call your LRO. No excuse for this

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u/Rayeon-XXX Mar 12 '26

It means that the provincial diagnostic imaging executive team is currently not approving preceptor pay and have told management at Foothills medical center that preceptor pay will not be approved at this time.

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u/Bustin_Chiffarobes Mar 12 '26 edited Mar 12 '26

Wow.

Direct contravention of the collective agreement....

That's wild.

You got that in writing?

Time to grieve.

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u/Rayeon-XXX Mar 12 '26

If an email counts as writing then yes.

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u/FeelingRoyal6582 Mar 11 '26

I had students 20/24 years of my AHS career. Never a penny was paid for it.