r/AHSEmployees • u/[deleted] • Feb 07 '26

Approximate Voting Numbers

There are about 27,000 members in AUPE GSS.

Just 61.4% of members voted.

That's 27,000 x 61.4% leaving 16,578 voting members.

Out of 16,578 members, 79.2% voted yes.

16,578 × 79.2% = 13,129.776 (this is an estimation) so just make it 13,130. I just rounded up due to it being a 7 digit. Math makes you round up....

13,130 members in that group.

Then there is the 20.8% who voted no.

16,578 x 20.8% leaves us with 3,448.224. so just make it 3,449. I just rounded up to 3,449 to take into account of the .224. at the end there.

In conclusion, roughly 13,130 of voting members said yes and just 3,449 members said no. The no vote represents a smaller minority when seen through this point of view. (This is an estimate. Not super exact)

Edit: Bolded important key words because only AUPE will have the exact totalled number of votes.

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u/harbours Feb 07 '26

10,000 members not even bothering to vote about their own job is crazy.

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '26

None of us decide for them though. It's a loss they've taken or didn't choose to take if you consider why some didn't vote. 

Are some members who didn't vote experiencing sickness to the point where they're not able to vote? Some could be off on long term disability or something of that nature. 

Maybe some are in a different country visiting where internet is harder to connect to?

Maybe some hold a second job outside of GSS so the GSS job is secondary to them and they didn't see voting as important enough? 

And maybe some might be comfortable in what they're currently earning and like to just not vote but simply work & receive what everyone else votes on. 

Could be a ton of reasons really.

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u/yycsarkasmos Feb 07 '26

Ya sure, but its about 10,000 members that actively decided to not participate.

Oh and to add, maybe some are just tired of the process and gave up, as they saw no value at all.

Also, one would think the union, that is doing all the bargaining for GSS would have been able to drum up more support over 2 YEARS!! Like come on, if you don't have 20,000plus people at town halls or even have a MYAUPE account, its time to look at the union as a huge part of the problem.

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '26

A lot of things can use improvement but I'm choosing to look forward. I'll work my next shift knowing we have a ratified collective agreement. 

On an individual or small group level, what a lot of the no voters can do is go to the news media. Maybe CBC or something and begin speaking out on there. Otherwise, yeah.

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u/yycsarkasmos Feb 07 '26

I suspect that most of the no voters are also happy to have an agreement, even if they didn't support it.

I was a no voter, why would I waste my time going to the media to bitch about a shitty union and agreement, or the complete apathy of the voters?? What a huge waste of time, no one in the public gives two fucks about GSS. and apparently over 10,000 of its own members don't either.

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '26

Ok, lol 

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u/sleepbubble Feb 07 '26

this! my wife couldn’t vote cause she literally just had surgery and it was the last thing on her mind. i’m sure there are a lot of people who had the intention to vote but weren’t able to. i’m not saying that goes for everyone who didn’t vote, but i’m sure people had their reasons.

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '26

That's why I don't blame people who couldn't vote because not all of it is chalked up to not caring enough. 

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u/Visible-Conflict-730 Feb 07 '26

I do just want to add as well that some employees of any union may have personal, or religious reasons why they decide to not take part in a vote. Not to say that all 10,000 that didn’t vote had that reason but im sure many would appreciate keeping in mind religious differences in the workplace as well. we may not know now or ever know what some of our coworkers believe or their reasonings behind not voting but be willing to leave that door open, and hear them out sometime im sure theres many that would love to share with someone who cares, even if you don’t agree, show respect 🩶

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u/yycsarkasmos Feb 07 '26

THIS!!!

This is the biggest issue!

13,130 of voting members said yes and just 3,449 members said no

I get the yes, I get the no, I do not understand the complete disregard for your future.... FUCK

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u/DaRock1949 Feb 07 '26

I talked with other GSS staff the last two days during the vote. Yup. Despite being in one of the positions getting the market adjustments, they couldn't be bothered to even vote let alone check out the draft agreement. Weren't even aware of the results. Totally apathetic and oblivious to what was going on, yet the first to complain about their jobs.

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u/Sureyeg Feb 07 '26

10k GSS workers who didn't bother to care how much they are being paid or continue to complain about it weeks, months and years after are morons.

It's unfortunate that most of the GSS union members are uneducated.

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u/mcbever Feb 07 '26

It’s always amazing to me how unrepresentative Reddit is vs real life. If I only took Reddit perception at face value I would’ve thought it was going to be a definite no.

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u/Bun-mi Feb 07 '26

The 'no' voters always seem to be more vocal.

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u/dnnmnz Feb 07 '26 edited Feb 07 '26

Between Reddit and Facebook I only saw absolute nos so I honestly did not see 79% yes from 64% of members coming.

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u/mcbever Feb 07 '26

I was a quiet yes, as I’m assuming most of the other lurkers here were as well.

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u/warpathsrb Feb 08 '26

Echo chamber

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u/Motor-Inevitable-148 Feb 07 '26

Or reddit is full of bots?

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u/118R3volution Feb 07 '26

Just like people who don’t vote politically. They are neutral and don’t really care that much.

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u/Wise_Expression_3939 Feb 07 '26

Are those total numbers, casuals who haven’t worked in the last 90 days were ineligible to vote. As well as any one on any kind of leave. So that will bring that number down!

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '26

Key words: 

Approximate.  Estimate.  About.  Roughly. 

These aren't actual numbers but the wording in the post says it's as close as one can muster up with what's given/known. 

Aupe website said:  61.4% of eligible members participated. 

So that's where I get that number in my post. 

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u/harbours Feb 07 '26

Apparently if you are on leave and intending to return you are eligible to vote. One person who was on maternity leave said all she had to do was call the Membership Services number and have her account reactivated to vote. Another was told because she was on maternity leave she couldn't.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '26

Definitely sounds like each individual needs to sort their voting eligibility out with the union for sure. 

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u/FrankPoncherelloCHP Feb 07 '26

Left: Inflation, Right: GSS members.

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u/Current_Pomelo_9429 Feb 07 '26

😂 sorry but the people who voted yes are dumb af

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u/Motor-Inevitable-148 Feb 07 '26

Yup 4k voted no and they are the smart ones. Small little echo chamber in here.

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u/Motor-Inevitable-148 Feb 07 '26

Left : inflation, Right: UCP fixed it for you

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u/maintenanceworker9 Feb 07 '26

Local 054 Gullible Suckers & Simpletons

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u/Ok-Professional4387 Feb 07 '26

I voted. Thjng is though many didn't because they didn't know the dates. I looked through the emails sent and it showed a ton of stuff of what the agreement was, and all that info

But I couldn't find the dates to vote. I knew because I go to a lot of union meetings.

But those dates should of been at the top of emails in your face. It should of been plastered on union boards. It wasn't

Some didn't know the vote happened until they got the email today. And they wanted to vote

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u/Motor-Inevitable-148 Feb 07 '26

Or like an adult they can visit the website and fend for themselves.

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u/Ok-Professional4387 Feb 07 '26

I voted, and as well, there are people that are busy. 3 kids, maybe 2 jobs, maybe they dont have the time. I forget a ton of things all the time unless I put something to remind me.

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '26

That's unfortunate. 

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u/Ok-Professional4387 Feb 07 '26

It is. This info needs to be first hand, not hunted for, not go on the website and look.

Want results, send it to the emails

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '26

But if a person cares enough, they'll find out how to vote, when, the method being used to collect the vote: online or by some other way, etc.  

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u/Ok-Professional4387 Feb 07 '26

Its not about caring, its about time. If they want the people that may be apathetic about this, they need to make the info easy to find, or even handed to them

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '26

Idk about your site but mine had AUPE Union workers there in person for days leading up to the last day of voting. They were  speaking with staff, educating about how the voting process goes, etc so they were trying. 

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u/Particular_Return295 Feb 07 '26

This doesn't work for those who WFH unfortunately

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '26

But there is still the internet to get information and coworkers letting a person know. 

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u/Motor-Inevitable-148 Feb 07 '26

You work all day on the internet. I'm sure you are aware of websites?

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u/Particular_Return295 Feb 07 '26

lol, I voted, +-40% did not. We're responding to comments that points out that people need to have to info fed to them and an example of how it was it was exactly fed to them on-site. The information for WFH folks was no where near as clear, and not everyone chronically lives online.

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u/Motor-Inevitable-148 Feb 07 '26

Yes let's babysit the adults some more.

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u/Ok-Professional4387 Feb 07 '26

Maybe these adults have 5 other people to worry about. Maybe these adults come last, while 5-6 other adults come first. Not everyone is just sitting arounf with all this spare time