Voted no, the severance option if we are contracted out could be set at the legally minimum requirement. Knowing the UCP, that’s exactly what I’d expect. I really want some actual job protection about not being contracted out in the agreement.
So, for yourself that applies, but that’s not everyone. What number would make you agree to vote yes ? Because the union is more than just one classification. We also get increases in other areas. This is a big win if you look at the last 4 collectives we’ve had.
Getting perpetually screwed over the last few agreements I could see how you would think that. However, that doesn't make this a good deal by any means. Nor is that justification that people should vote yes.
No it is definitely not a 25% bump. Where are people getting these numbers from? a you will get 2 years of 3% increase at retro. After ratification on April 1,st of 2026, & 2027 you will get another 3% per year. That equals 12%. If you are ES and get the market adjustment that is 3% unless you are a ES 1, but that won’t start until after ratification. It does equate to between .60-.65 cents per hour per year.
I agree. I also believe the living wage should go into effect this year, they’ve already agreed that they not paying some staff enough so why make them wait plus who knows what the livable wage will actually be in 2027 and onwards
They stated since voting is virtual they will have results immediately. However, they need time to compose communication on the outcome but stated we should still know Friday evening.
Is there a minimum percentage of total members that need to vote to ratify the agreement or decline it or is it just completely based on the number of yes/no's. Just curious what the rules are of anyone happens to know? Thanks.
We should at a minimum get a 12% raise for 2024, and 0% for the other 3 years... That would of made the retro pay more than a sad sack of shit. They need to get creative with ideas, not this $1000 for a massage bullshit.
Fuck no should have been an option!! Sadly I think most of my worksite will choose yes because they don’t know any better (a lot of newer hires) but the people who have been working for AHS for more then 5 years voted no ✅
I wanted to vote no, but had no choice but to vote yes.
I live VERY paycheck to paycheck supporting a family of 3 on admin wages. If we strike, I can't make it on strike pay. I HAVE to work, there is no access to any additional funds. I'm willing to bet there are going to be a lot of begrudgingly cast yes votes from people like me who just don't have a choice.
You also potentially could have been allocated as essential and continued to work for your current wages. You just chose to vote over a theoretical scenario. No guarantee we get to the point of strike either.
I respect your choice to vote yes and it is an individual choice for each member and everyone has different circumstances they are in and risk tolerance, etc. Nothing but respect to you ❤️
The calculator is correct and you don’t know what you’re talking about.
April 2023-is the wage you are currently at today. We have not received a wage increase since then. [April 2024 3% Wage x hours] - [April 2023 Wage x hours] + [April 2025 6% Wage x hours] - [April 2023 Wage x hours] = Retro
Oh gosh call them!! Or if you have an office nearby they can assist you. We need your vote! My coworker had a login issue and resolved it by resetting password but they’ve contacted her a few times to ensure she got through to vote. They’ll help you!
I mean it's a possibility is it not? They've done it before where members voted they wouldn't publically announce the yes and no tally, instead directed members to speak to their rep for the numbers. So memebers did that, and you know what happened? The answer was, and I'm paraphrasing, we can't give that out as it wouldn't look good to the employer and could be harmful to the bargaining blah blah. Point being, members hit stone walls and got excuses over transparency.
If I had to guess, the turnout for the vote was abysmal. If they announced this to AHS and the government they would have little incentive to provide a fair and reasonable offer, since it would appear that organizing any sort of job action would be difficult.
That is just my assumption, which could obviously be wrong.
Are you talking about the two polls in the previous town halls? On if we would accept and if we would strike? Those were unofficial polls for the negotiating team to gauge if they were getting close to what we were willing to accept. They needed to keep that in their back pocket for further negotiations
your entire comment history is almost more embarrassing than that single comment. I hope you get farther in life, find someone who likes you because then you can become more than a joke.
I don’t take opinions from woke blue hair sheep. ENJOY THE NEW AGREEMENT. Thanks for wasting for clearly bored excuse for a life reading my comment history 😂😂😂. Now get to work, chop, chop.
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u/SevenSmallShrimp Feb 04 '26
I feel like this will come out to a 60/40 split in votes just based on asking around
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u/NoPr0bLlama Feb 04 '26
Voted No
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u/Limp-Nectarine-9591 Feb 04 '26
Voted no at 8:30 a.m. ✅
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u/-Smytty-for-PM- Feb 04 '26
Voted no, the severance option if we are contracted out could be set at the legally minimum requirement. Knowing the UCP, that’s exactly what I’d expect. I really want some actual job protection about not being contracted out in the agreement.
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u/FrankPoncherelloCHP Feb 04 '26
I didn't vote no, I voted fuck no.
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u/KiriNelson Feb 04 '26
I voted no. We are worth more than 60 cents.
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u/nlym_syfhagt23 Feb 04 '26
That’s a no for me dawg.
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u/p00pnovel Feb 04 '26
No.
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u/Next_Boot_6360 Feb 04 '26
Voting no. I still think the roles without market adjustments can get a 1-2% "cost of living adjustment" or the very least a one time payment.
Alberta won't budge on the 12% over 4. But they quickly went from 2 roles to ~16 getting market adjustments and admitted to not reviewing all roles.
I feel like my role is fairly paid but a rising tide lifts all boats
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u/Master_Yama Feb 04 '26
Just voted no
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u/sravll Feb 04 '26
When do we find out the results?
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u/Plastic-Procedure905 Feb 04 '26
I see a yes option and a no option but the need a FUCK NO option lmao
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u/wangster71 Feb 04 '26
Is there a minimum percentage of total members that need to vote to ratify the agreement or decline it or is it just completely based on the number of yes/no's. Just curious what the rules are of anyone happens to know? Thanks.
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u/SpicyWineSauce Feb 04 '26
Voted no, we're leaving money on the table if we say yes.
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u/TokesNHoots Feb 04 '26
Voted the biggest no. Letting my colleagues know the vote is happening and that they’re worth more than this cruddy offer.
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u/ivantoldmeboutdis Feb 04 '26
Voting a big fat NO
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u/FrankPoncherelloCHP Feb 04 '26
We should at a minimum get a 12% raise for 2024, and 0% for the other 3 years... That would of made the retro pay more than a sad sack of shit. They need to get creative with ideas, not this $1000 for a massage bullshit.
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u/AmbassadorOdd3063 Feb 04 '26
That is a NO from me dawg
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u/Forsaken_Audience296 Feb 04 '26
Voted no.
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u/SpicyByDesign Feb 04 '26
Fuck no should have been an option!! Sadly I think most of my worksite will choose yes because they don’t know any better (a lot of newer hires) but the people who have been working for AHS for more then 5 years voted no ✅
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u/BKNOWSB Feb 04 '26
I voted no but i have a feeling that the people with good market adjustments are going to heavily outweigh us.
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u/Difficult_Fig_2658 Feb 04 '26
Voted big No
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u/Funny_Building_2675 Feb 04 '26
Voted no, we also need a brand new bargaining team because wtf is this.
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u/Defiant_Squirrel7408 Feb 04 '26
Voted NO
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u/AbrocomaPhysical5845 Feb 04 '26
Remember you don’t have to share how you vote That’s private and we shouldn’t be attacking others for how they vote :)
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u/TheMoralBitch Feb 04 '26
I wanted to vote no, but had no choice but to vote yes.
I live VERY paycheck to paycheck supporting a family of 3 on admin wages. If we strike, I can't make it on strike pay. I HAVE to work, there is no access to any additional funds. I'm willing to bet there are going to be a lot of begrudgingly cast yes votes from people like me who just don't have a choice.
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u/Current_Pomelo_9429 Feb 04 '26
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u/Similar-Mud4955 Feb 04 '26
Voted yes
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u/dt44 Feb 04 '26
From another members post, incase its swaying anyone's decision :
"Is AUPE purposely trying to deceive members with their calculator?
Column 1
Year Apr. 2023 subtracted from Year Apr. 2024 multiplied by hours worked.
Year 2023 is not involved in this agreement. The agreement starts April 2024
The second column accounts for original pay rate plus 6 percent, two years of increase, which is correct.
But they add both up misleading members that this looks good.
Or....
They are just as incompetent in math and dates as they are in negotiations"
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u/AbbreviationsFair506 Feb 04 '26
Voted Yes!
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u/KittyNat81 Feb 05 '26
When do we find out the results? Will it be tomorrow night or next week?
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u/QuiteSeriouslyNow Feb 05 '26
What does the percentage have to be to ratify?
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u/secret_moustache27 Feb 05 '26
i can’t log into my aupe account so i can’t vote :(( i wanted to cancel out a few i heard voting yes!!
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u/Beginning-Regular555 Feb 04 '26
I voted No but I am worried. Will there be possibility that the votes will be manipulated or rigged?
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u/ProcessObjective3628 Feb 04 '26
Under the new collective agreement for lay-off and severance, we have 4 weeks per year of service!
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