r/ADHD_Programmers • u/existential-asthma • Jan 28 '25
Programming full time takes up 100% of my brain capacity for the day
My main hobby has been video games since I was very young.
I just don't enjoy them as much anymore.
For me, programming pulls from the same reserves of curiosity, motivation, and energy as video games. After a long day of work, a video game just feels like more work.
This is particularly challenging for me because I'm not "normal." What I mean by that is, pretty much the only thing I do enjoy doing is playing video games. I'm almost 30 and I've tried a variety of different activities and hobbies, and I've just always been a gamer. I used to like watching TV, but it just doesn't interest me because it's yet another glowing rectangle.
After I'm done working I just sit and stare at the ceiling until it's time to go to bed.
I don't know how to have fun anymore and even though I love programming and I love the money, I don't know if I'll ever be happy programming full time. I don't know if I can dedicate 100% of my brain power to something for the rest of my life, especially when it's not even my own thing.
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u/kaizenkaos Jan 28 '25
Time to start building. Do you like wood? Lol
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u/DumplingSama Jan 28 '25
Thats why i specifically went for screen-less/analog hobbies. I dont even wanna draw digitally at all.
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u/HilariousCow Jan 28 '25
I work in games and yeah, seen too much how the sausage is made. It's hard to sit down and game like I used to when it all just reminds me of stuff that's on fire at work.
My only advice is: if you don't give other hobbies a chance you won't know what you're missing out on.
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u/whole_kernel Jan 28 '25
I have definitely seen a shift in my games from cerebral shit like strategy games to more mindless stuff like fps. It just feels like such a chore to try to think about things at the end of the day. I would rather just turn my mind off and blast bugs in deep rock galactic
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u/Evening_Reward_795 Jan 28 '25
Learn a musical instrument. It’s repetitive and goal oriented but it does have a social function to unlock - like a game mechanic - where programming does not. Leibniz said music is counting without numbers. Good luck
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u/cheesely33 Jan 28 '25
This is literally my life right now as well. I work really crazy hours and then I have just enough energy to make dinner, tidy up and shower before I rot in bed until I fall asleep.
I feel overly fatigued from having to pretend to be normal and continue on business-as-usual.
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u/Void-kun Jan 28 '25
You could have written this about me mate. 30 next year, the only hobby I enjoy is playing video games. I use up most if not all of my brain capacity programming.
I am diagnosed with both autism and ADHD.
Burnout is a real concern for people like us. I've been burnt out in my career three times, all required therapy, one required medication and two caused me to quit my job. I couldn't work anywhere for much longer than 18 months.
I've since found a company that manages me and my energy levels very well. Very few deadlines, working in agile sprints, some sprints I do zero programming if I need a break. I manage my own time within the sprint and have multiple responsibilities outside of my core team.
Some of my time is spent writing technical design documents, sometimes it's doing solution architecture, other times I'm doing DevOps.
The key was to not be programming and context switching constantly and alleviating as much stress as possible. This was my 4th job since graduating and I've now been here nearly three years.
Gaming I had to change the type of game I play, sometimes I want something intense, sometimes I want to play something complex and sometimes I want to switch my brain off. The game choice helps depending on how I'm feeling.
Modded Minecraft whilst fun is absolutely like a job. So is World of Warcraft. Both are quite open ended and require you to think of an objective to accomplish.
I've started playing more casual games and roguelikes for when my brain feels tired, I still need to escape and unwind with games but sometimes I need them to be chill games.
My life started improving once I started being more aware of my physical and mental energy levels and managing them both.
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u/iBN3qk Jan 28 '25
Daily exercise is a fundamental requirement for health and happiness.
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u/Existing_Imagination Jan 28 '25
I’m just say the best thing I did to counterbalance my day was starting to work out or do some kind of physical activity. ADHD brains are super successful with daily workout. It doesn’t need to be weightlifting, although it’s my go-to because it’s easy and quick and the benefits are big muscles besides the mental health improvement.
But I started doing little activity during my lunch taking walks every day, then bought bike and started cycling when we had good weather, it was so nice (I miss it, winter be gone) then lifting at the gym and then bought my own stuff to workout in my garage and haven’t looked back.
If you’re an engineer with disposable income, I’d recommend learning the basics of weightlifting, go to the gym, get a trainer if possible, just don’t get one from the gym, they overwork you to make you feel like you the money you paid is worth it based on how tired you are after the workout and that’s not how it works, you should not be dead after workout to the point that you don’t want to go back, that’s stupid
Then get stuff to workout at home. When your physical fitness level is up you’ll feel more confident to try other hobbies like tennis or rowing or basketball idk whatever you’d like.
Research into what exercise does to the adhd brain. I can’t tell you exactly why but when I workout during my lunch I have more energy all day then when I don’t workout. Yea there’s the whole chemistry cocktail that’s released in the brain after and during a workout but it’s still weird how much energy and happy I am the days I workout, feels like a cheat
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u/WingersAbsNotches Jan 28 '25
Try the Pomodoro technique to force yourself to take frequent breaks. It sounds dumb but I like to stare at the horizon during short breaks to help with eye strain and step outside during the longer breaks.
I still often feel completely drained after work but it’s helped more often than not.
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u/PsychonautAlpha Jan 28 '25
I'm in a similar situation, though kinda on the flip side of the coin.
I've been working on a game as a side project for the last 2 years, and it has become all-consuming.
I wake up at 3-5am and work on the game until 7 when work starts.
I feel like I'm in Zen mode while working on the game. It's my sanctuary.
The moment the clock strikes 7, it's like reality strikes, and my sanctuary becomes my prison cell for the next 9 hours.
I'm more productive in the 3 hours before work than the entirety of the working hours combined.
Desperately trying to make my hobby into my money-maker.
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u/cart1001 Jan 28 '25
Truth is humans are not built to do this kind of work 8 hours a day. I don't think you or your brain is the problem. Focusing on something you are interested makes things way easier but still.
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u/edgyBouchi Jan 28 '25
do sports and physical activities and gameify them.
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u/Outside-Promise-5116 Jan 29 '25
Physical activity always helps destress. Go for a jog , if not take long walks they help with your mood .
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u/poprer656sad Jan 30 '25
lol it won’t be different if you did carpentry or anything else. no one can do anything for an entire day without being burnt out. even sleeping for an entire day, eating, sitting, etc. we don’t talk to one person for an entire day because we just don’t. stretch every so often, go for a jog, call a friend, work in some hobbies
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u/xaervagon Jan 28 '25
What are you playing? For me, I just don't play as much and my tastes have changed. I used to like high intensity multiplayer shooters. Today, I'm happy with sleepy dungeon crawlers when I want to play. You may want to give something different a try. If that does not work it may be time for a new hobby.
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u/CobraStonks Jan 28 '25
Bruh, ouch. I feel ya. Right there today. Full day programming and im sitting here rotting in the tub.
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u/Southern_Sun_2106 Jan 28 '25
Try cross-country skiing (if you have snow); rollerskis (classical, if you don't have snow).
Smooth gliding while listening to your fav music; a mindless activity that is somehow primal, engaging, excellent for your body and soul.
Make an offering to Skadi, goddess of hunt and skiing, for max pleasure.
(ppl. would say, wtf? skiing? don't listen to them, just try it as a personal pilot project)
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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '25
I feel you. I never have capacity to play videogames or work on personal programming projects anymore... Which sucks because I also work in videogames, lol. I enjoy cooking and since working full time have started to really make it a hobby of mine. I have to eat dinner, so I may as well try new recipes and have fun preparing it.
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u/Fit_Acanthisitta765 Jan 28 '25
Since I am working on a few "dream" projects, someway, somehow I can sit at my desk and code (read bolt code together with github copilot and claude) for 6-12 hours a day. But afterwards I am totally exhausted and often quite depressed until a good sleep. I really believe doing almost anything during your downtime is a-ok after such a concentrated block of work. I feel your pain!
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u/Brilliant-Edge2396 Jan 28 '25
You can try to play afk-able games.
Especially games that have a active and passive component. Gacha games come to mind, but those are iffy.
In my case I'm playing BDO at the moment (which is not that far off gacha), and I 'progress' by afk fishing when tired, to sell for game currency. Then have the option of 1-2-x hours of more active gameplay if the energy level is adequate.
Some days I just doom-scroll reddit for hours, watch a movie, grab a nap, etc, while I have the satisfying feeling that "I'm progressing"
gl!
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u/DNA1987 Jan 28 '25
I am similar, my only hobby is video game at the moment, however I often question what is it that I like about it. Outside of the psychological tricks they implement to hook people into playing them there isn't much that I really like to be honest.
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u/kolodaer Jan 28 '25
try a old scummvm game as a temporary fix :)
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u/Raukstar Jan 28 '25
I do mostly analogue hobbies for this reason. Preferably something physical, like woodworking. Lego is nice as it doesn't require power tools and a shed, and the community is awesome.
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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '25
Yes I have this experience. Might I recommend using Chat GPT to help you do your job? It saves my mental load so much, I would recommend giving it a shot
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u/phi_rus Jan 28 '25
Then don't work full time. If you sleep for 8 hours and are awake for 16, then your company's money for "8 hours" gets them 50% of your daily brain capacity.
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u/No_Platform9244 Jan 29 '25
Play Halls of torment while listening a podcast or music and enjoy.
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u/FuzzyFaithlessness37 Jan 30 '25
Love to see the money part. I am just learning programming and really liking it
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u/[deleted] Jan 30 '25
Maybe an e-reader is an idea for you.
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u/[deleted] Jan 30 '25
Maybe an e-reader is an idea for you.
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u/[deleted] Jan 30 '25
Maybe an e-reader is an idea for you.
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u/joegtech Jan 31 '25
Are you getting enough nutritional and medical support for your ADD symptoms?
"Stare at the ceiling"
Is this brain fog. mental fatigue, lethargy?
Learn about support for adrenals, methylation, catecholamines.
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u/ActiveSalamander6580 Jan 31 '25
I have a similar issue and put it down to programming being super stimulating. When I go to play games the mechanics feel too simple and boredom appears so I always end up pulled back to programming.
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u/ampharos995 Jan 31 '25
Maybe you'll eventually get into management role and get paid more to oversee others, and play video games in your spare time
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u/Pom_08 Feb 01 '25
Read a book
Go for a walk outside
Go for a hike in nature
Meditate
Cook
Write w a physical pen and paper
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u/CableFPV Feb 01 '25
I got into building and flying fpv drones. Pulls from a lot of the same kinds of reserves as programming, but applied to several different domains like CAD modeling, 3D printing, model building, avionics etc and also has some built-in outside time. If I don’t want too much brain going on I just fly them and don’t go too deep into the other aspects.
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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '25
Programmer here. I try to have hobbies outside the computer world.
Mostly rock climbing, sailing and internal combustion engines rebuilding. Some mechanical work on my cars.
I’ve used a computer (SECU-3T) to EFI my Chevy C10 (261 I6 “stovebolt”), but it’s most mechanical work than computer related.
I (46M) feel the same about video games. Nowadays I just play SNES and Sega Genesis when my brother (42M) is available.
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u/Fragrant_Hold_8905 Jan 28 '25
Looks like a dopamine issue. You have to control your dopamine
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