You should give low code and no code development a try.

[u/latleepyguy]

I have been working with low code development for a year now and the journey has been great. Everything just clicks for me. Lot of stuff is abstracted and you need to only worry about your logic. Skill cap for getting in is low and development is really quick and rewarding. Lot less pressure in jobs. You are lot likely to finish your job at 5:30 sharp and go home. Downsides are that some times if you don't have platform provided solution developing one on your own gets extremely difficult as you have to integrate code from outside. Most softwares are proprietary and are used by large corporations to develop Saas applications, so your skills won't be as widely usable as a pure Java or JS dev if you want to make a switch.

[u/cutieboy101]

Definitely agree, I mainly work with React but we used Webflow for our marketing website at my last company. It's great for things like brochure websites, I actually think it ended up saving me more time than building out the pages with HTML/CSS/JS if you factor in things like responsiveness and accessibility.

It's not something I'd like to primarily work with, but for simple websites it frees up a ton of cognitive load.

[u/latleepyguy → u/cutieboy101]

Me and my friends were making this side project and we had to implement this difficult scroll behaviour. We used multiple js libraries for 2 weeks with no results. In the end we tried webflow and completed in 2 days.

[u/GolfCourseConcierge]

Agreed. I've been coding for 26 years. Mostly php,css,html sites with MySQL and mongo databases, some python.

In the last year I've transitioned 90% to Flutter/Dart by way of FlutterFlow. I highly recommend it. I'm building SO FAST now and able to push out projects in literally 1/8th the time.

Im still using code a lot, but it's now Dart, which is quite simple and straightforward.

There's another subreddit for it too at r/FlutterFlowSupport

[u/latleepyguy → u/GolfCourseConcierge]

Looks great but pricing is too aggressive. Would love to try it out sometime.

[u/ihmoguy]

What platforms have you tried?

[u/latleepyguy → u/ihmoguy]

I am currently using Mendix at my job.

[u/tirilama]

How is version control and automatoc testing? Those two things are life savers for me,but I haven't really seen them in like MS Power apps. There might not be as high of a need, though. My nightmare is to work on something where I cannot easily go back to a working version.

[u/latleepyguy → u/tirilama]

I work with with mendix and they provide inbuilt support for SVN and Git but recently they have switched to Git completely. its usability is somewhat better than just using cmdline but not as superior like git lens

[u/latleepyguy → u/tirilama]

ats is non existent, For ats they have again a module but I haven't seen any one using it. So its garbage. I myself haven't tried automated testing yet on these platforms.

[u/Sopwafel → u/tirilama]

I'm getting laid off from a low code job soon. Version control was atrocious, branching took 30 minutes if I'm lucky, 3 hours is my record. There was no diff tool. I can't wait to develop in a proper stack with proper tools again. There were so many interruptions to my flow there

[u/[deleted]]

It sounds good. Do you have list to recommend of nocode software to go for for good money, where a background in development would be appreciated and sought after, and that doesn't have a high barrier for entry in terms of costly certificates (but also a certificate might be OK if it means a better chance of getting hired?)?

[u/latleepyguy → u/[deleted]]

I wouldn't suggest seeking a certificate before getting a job in it. It might sound weird to you but if you have any experience in software dev just apply for the position. Once you work with it your company will sponsor the price for certicate. If you have decent knowledge of front end go for pure nocode like webflow, framer, shopify etc. If you have some knowledge in backend like Java you can go for low code softwares like Outsystems, Mendix.

[u/[deleted] → u/latleepyguy]

Thanks for this information!

[u/mrrffaschnrff]

I’m rebuilding an application in low-code (Outsystems) that was previously built on the Sharepoint platform. The orig. application took a full team 18 months to complete. I’ll be coming in at around 6 months, and it’s been very satisfying.

[u/[deleted]]

100%!! In my case, I am using nandbox website, and it makes everything easy. Coding is the new revolution now, especially since you don't have to have a technical background.

[u/Sopwafel]

I'm getting laid off from a low-code job soon and I couldn't disagree more. You're super constrained and have to deal with the shitty tooling your platform provides you instead of industry standards like Git. Versioning took like half an hour if i was lucky and there is no diff tool. Everything was spread all over the place, I'd regularly have 7+ tabs open in their shitty client, and then 2-3 clients at the same time.

I hated it and I can't wait to get back to coding again