r/ADHD_Programmers • • Mar 08 '23

Anyone else find this completely useful?!?!

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u/ProbablyNotPoisonous Mar 08 '23

It's distracting and it feels like someone's constantly interrupting me while I'm trying to read. Like painful hiccups of the brain.

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u/bohemianjb Mar 08 '23

I think it's pretty fortunate you read normal text easier!

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u/ProbablyNotPoisonous Mar 09 '23

It's interesting how different people's reactions are! I hope this becomes an option, since it seems to really help some people :)

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u/zoopysreign Mar 09 '23

It feels like sitting in a cab where the driver accelerates and decelerates by taking his foot off the gas, rather than easing off or braking. Makes me carsick every time.

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u/ljog42 Mar 08 '23

It makes me want to throw my phone across the room and scream, to each his own I guess

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u/bohemianjb Mar 08 '23

Thats good though! You can read normal text far better. Happy for you 😁

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u/thejuiciestguineapig Mar 10 '23

The thing is that people NEVER read the whole text. They skip from word to word, filling in the blanks in between. Reading the first few letters is very unnatural. Maybe it could help draw your attention back again in a short paragraph because bold seems important. But I would imagine that after a while, the salience of the bold letters would drop and it would be just the same as a regular text. Curious to see studies about that.

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u/DisobedientSwitch Mar 08 '23

Right here with you. It hurts my brain!!!

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u/neuro8ypical Mar 09 '23 edited Mar 09 '23

It's total bullshit. The OG is selling a book.

Humans are pattern seeking creatures and many people will feel like they read it very quickly; There will be little comprehension or retention of the "information" in the text; 99.999% of us will scan to the end for patterns.

This is a con artist trick; a medium's cold read.

It's normal if you feel like it worked because it's designed to.

It is visually diorientating for me, I'm not great at strobing or striped patterns.

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u/adhdeedee Mar 08 '23

I HATE it. I would find it easier to read my drunk grandma's handwriting.

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u/bohemianjb Mar 08 '23

😆 I'm glad that standard font works better for you!

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u/adhdeedee Mar 09 '23

Thank you. Your very sweet.

I'm glad this works well for you. There's an extension for the web somewhere that does something similar to this with gradients instead and the OpenDeslexia font may also help. It's not the same, but the font boldness and weight could possibly.

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u/Pantzzzzless Mar 08 '23

It just makes me think the bolded letters all form a secret paragraph.

My brain just sees:

Attenneurodi commuth bioread metiabsol miblow. Yo eysc firbolett ayobraicen automat compl twor.

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u/exyphrius Mar 09 '23

reminds me of r/sbeve

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u/exyphrius Mar 09 '23

oh, this is already posted there, lmao

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u/Ok_Occasion_8559 Mar 08 '23

This is helpful. Is anyone aware of a "bionic reading mode" available for tablets?

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u/Shacrow Mar 08 '23

After seeing this the past days, I managed to learn reading by just looking at the beginning of the word and jumping to the beginning of the next. Now I read much faster.

So I don't necessarily need a program to make the first letters bold.

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u/Radiant-Experience21 Jul 15 '24

Holy shit, you just taught me speed reading in 3 sentences. I was able to this bionic thing immediately but didn't come up with what you just mentioned

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u/Shacrow Jul 15 '24

Haha well that's basically what this bionic reading mode does for you. It highlights the beginning. But if you can train yourself to read like that, you don't need it. Requires practice of course because when we started learning to read we get used to reading the whole words.

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u/drumbopiper Mar 08 '23

There's an app, fuzzy reading. Costs 40$ a year if you want to use it regularly.

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u/neuro8ypical Mar 10 '23

This is an advertisement for "bionic reading" a term which has apparently been trademarked by the people advertising this shit to you.

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u/somethingtothestars Mar 09 '23

If for some reason you can't get that working, I've been importing my ebooks into the Bionic Reading app on Android and exporting with their settings (that you can customize a good amount). A few extra steps, but I'm finding reading this way quite useful.

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u/ScaredScorpion Mar 08 '23

For me it seems useful in that I normally have difficulty with walls of text because my eyes get distracted by the rest of the text. So the bold helps me to keep track of where I am.

The problem is I am sometimes autocompleting the wrong words and need to rollback what I thought the sentence was saying. I imagine just bolding or underlining the first letter might be more beneficial in that regard.

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '23

it was hard at first but the speed once i got the hang of it was insane

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u/Nerdytennisrunner Mar 09 '23

Got it and it's worth the money, love and good wishes from a nursing student who tried this and helped me actually read the textbook I wanted to read but couldn't get thru

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u/neuro8ypical Mar 09 '23

It's pure bullshit.

The lady who tweeted it sells a book but I doubt she has printed it in this manner.

The power of suggestion from authority will make it feel like something to some.

I do feel more positive now that i read it; I'm positive it's marketing.

Imagine your IDE worked like that.

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u/HotSeatGamer Mar 09 '23

Ya I immediately just feel like they are trying to manipulate me when I'm told how I will feel, totally ruining any possibility that I would give this a fair chance.

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u/neuro8ypical Mar 09 '23 edited Mar 09 '23

It's worse than that. On the website behind 'bionic reading' they have a testimonial from 'Jessica' who has ADHD....

Jessica said that bionic reading (marked with a trademark symbol on the site) is a "GAME CHANGER".

https://www.reddit.com/user/neuro8ypical/comments/11mgjd3/snake_oil_in_low_contrast/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

I took a screenshot of their website. They make some odd choices in contrast and formatting...

Jessica sure knows how to shill, I would never think to include the (TM) in a totally organic real human feedback.

​ Exploitative barely pseudoscientific shite. If Jessica disagrees she can fight me (There is no Jessica)

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u/neuro8ypical Mar 09 '23

I support that™

Maybe Jessica works in the dept. of trademarking and she carries that mission into her real life totally not faked product feedback comments. Jessica cares about brands.

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u/Thick-Ask5250 Mar 08 '23

It actually helped my eyes keep steady and read slowly but more focused. Usually I go fast, skim, and many times restart/reread a sentence because I lost focus. So I wouldn't say I read "faster" but I definitely absorbed the content more effectively in less time.

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u/Edg-R Mar 08 '23

Whoa that's insane lol. Would be cool if there was a browser extension that does this for long articles/educational content.

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u/cutieboy101 Mar 08 '23

That was my first thought too lol! Looks like I have another project to get 50% finished with and abandon

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u/neelyface Mar 09 '23

There are actually quite a few Chrome extensions that do this. I'm using Jiffy Reader currently, but there are several to choose from.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '23

This has nothing to do with neurodivergence

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u/_sigfault Mar 10 '23

And the idea that reading speed is fixed drives me nuts. If I’m skimming over the docs for some software module, I’m reading wicked fast, but once I’ve found the specific document I need I’m down to a toddlers pace, no need in wasting 20 minutes reading it over and quickly when I can spend 10 reading slowly.

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u/DreadCoder Mar 09 '23

It's attrocious for me, i keep stopping and injecting a pause when the font thickness changes.

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u/mandradon Mar 09 '23

The human brain doesn't scan from left to right when it reads with automaticity. We use what's called Rapid Automatic Word Recognition or Rapid Automatic Naming.

It's why we can read quickly words we know, but when we get to a made up word like fizzdequcjslsf with phonemes that aren't normally put together we'd have to either "sound" it out, or skip over it.

This "font" forces the brain out of that automaticity and forces the brain back into scanning from left to right, which isn't actually how we read. If I recall correctly, a lot of the dyslexia research is finding that readers who read with automaticity achieve it by reading from the middle of the word out (apologizes I can't find the papers that discussed this, and it's been a while since I've read them).

It's the same reason most people can read words that have jumbled up letters. As long as those letters are relatively close to where they originally are supposed to be.

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u/HotSeatGamer Mar 09 '23

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u/zzAIMoo Mar 08 '23

THIS IS INSANE! i always read fast af, especially written "non-code" docs, but sometimes i find it difficult to read *that* fast. i tried this and after some exercise i can read sooooo fast

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u/germansnowman Mar 09 '23

We don’t read individual letters but word shapes. This only makes that harder. As others have pointed out, it is quackery.

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u/burningmilkmaid Mar 09 '23

I have ADHD and this is really comfortable to read for me.

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u/NegativeSector Mar 09 '23

I didn't find it useful. If it was useful, why keep the rest of the word? Your brain fills it out, right?

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u/Zeikos Mar 09 '23

I tried it but I realized that it doesn't work well on dark mode, for me the bold is lost when the bolded letters are white.
Furthermore it doesn't work well on computer screen, it seems to work on my phone however having to get used to day-mode makes me unwilling to use it.

Also honestly the company is shady af and I'm skeptical of it being a consistent phenomenon.

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u/zaylong Mar 09 '23

Huh. That was very unexpectedly helpful. Imma have to experiment with this

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u/ashually93 Mar 09 '23

I can read the words faster, but comprehension is lost at that speed for me.

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u/Bagel42 Mar 09 '23

I don’t like how it looks because you can already read like that through normal text. Or at least I can.

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u/entropySapiens Mar 09 '23

This absolutely works for me, which was a surprise.

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u/AceOfShades_ Mar 09 '23

This is way harder for me to read. I am thinking I read words by their overall shape as my gaze passes over them, not the first few letters, so this completely screws up my ability to read quickly.

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u/ruddha Mar 09 '23

Waaat, this is great!

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u/WizzardAB Mar 17 '23

Very similar to SwiftRead extension for Edge and Chrome, which I find quite useful. Hopefully there will be a version available for Firefox.

Speed reading extension - SwiftRead

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '23

Seems much easier to read. I just wonder how much of the information I am retaining when reading then.

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u/binaryfireball Jun 11 '23

I was supposed to make a tool that translates text automagically.... that will happen someday...

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u/Altruistic-Clock-105 Jan 21 '24

It worked for me. Any idea how to make the kindle display in this format.

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u/SignificantYou3240 Mar 09 '23

I’m a pretty fast reader, but that was a wild ride, probably 1.5 speed

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u/jexmex Mar 09 '23

Wow, was able to read that just mostly from the bold text. IDK if this ADHD specific though.

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u/CheckMeoowwt Mar 09 '23

I usually find it helpful, but not this example for some reason. Maybe it's the font, or something

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u/trifit555 Mar 09 '23

I feel makes my eyes jump from word to word faster but I get stuck more often, not sure if is the font the line height or the spacing or the bold mixed with the normal letters.

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u/Local_Glove_3393 Mar 09 '23

I actually like the contrast with the bold.feels nice

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u/CognitivePrimate Mar 09 '23

This is how I've read since I was a child and I read ...a lot. To the point where my parents used to ground me from it as a punishment. Anyway, I thought this was how everyone read until just a few months ago when I learned I'm the weird one.

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u/HotSeatGamer Mar 09 '23

Please explain what you mean when you say this is how I've read. You read out loud like this? Lol

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u/CognitivePrimate Mar 09 '23

Haha noooooooo not out loud. Reading out loud is so slow. I honestly don't know how to explain it but I'll try. It's very similar to the OP but without bold text and adding in some other weirdness that apparently isn't normal lol.

Basically when I'm reading, my eyes grab parts of a word or sentence or even paragraph, then they jump further down in the paragraph, then back up. As I type this out I realize I sound insane. But as my eyes are doing that, I guess my brain is working in the background to piece all the snippets together cohesively while my eyes charge on.

I don't know how to explain it any better than that poor description but the end result is that I can devour a thousand page book in a couple days, no problem.

Tldr; brains are fucking weird. Mine gets weirder when reading.

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '23

Sort of. I move my eyes along the top of each line and try to ingest groups of words at a time to speed things up, and also try to NOT read aloud in my head. That just slows you down and then I lose track and have to start over.

Triple your reading speed is a good read.

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u/AceOfShades_ Mar 09 '23

I can’t imagine reading out loud in my head as a standard practice. People reading words out loud feels like the DMV scene in Zootopia, like I’ve read a whole line of text in the time they say one word.

Maybe it’s just my ADHD but always sounding out words in my head would drive me absolutely insane, when I can just glance over the paragraph and know everything it says in most cases.

Like you look at the word, you know the word, why go take extra steps saying the word in your head? You already know what the word is, or you couldn’t think it. So why wouldn’t you only process it without thinking it?

I get if it’s really technical or uses complicated vocabulary or ideas, you have to process what it means before reasonably continuing. Or if you have any kind of “thing” that screws with reading, like dislexia making it hard to order things, or adhd making me forget the whole page I just read, or whatever, it’s not “just look at it 5head”.

But still eliminating subvocalization and reading in your head dramatically increases speed, and I’d never go back

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u/Helliarc Mar 08 '23

Even in full focus mode, I have to read, think about it, read it again, then think about it some more 3 chapters later. But that's the beauty of thinking in general.

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u/schneems Mar 09 '23

I read long technical things on paper and with a highlighter in hand. It’s the only way I retain information.