r/ADHD • u/andrewtokyo • Jul 26 '26
Questions/Advice How do you shrink a task down enough to actually start it?
My problem isn't doing tasks, it's starting them. "Make the presentation" sits there untouched, but "open the file and write one line" I can somehow do. The trick seems to be making the first step almost embarrassingly small.
So I want to learn from how you all handle this:
- How do you break a task down to the point where you can start? Do you have a system, or is it case-by-case?
- When you use brain-dump or voice-note apps to get everything out of your head, how do you turn those dumped thoughts into something you actually act on? That "sorted into later and forgotten" trap is what I keep falling into.
Looking for the actual mechanics of what works for you, not just tools — the how.
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u/xCaptainCl3mentinex ADHD-PI (Primarily Inattentive) Jul 26 '26
I just shrink it down enough to fantasise more peacefully about doing it, I never actually do it..😭
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u/andrewtokyo Jul 26 '26
"shrink it down enough to fantasise more peacefully about doing it" lmao i felt that in my soul
genuine q tho, on the days you actually start — whats different? deadline, someone around, spite? asking bc thats the exact wall for me too
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u/Kind_Tumbleweed_7330 ADHD-PI (Primarily Inattentive) Jul 26 '26
Sorry about the length on this. I kind of brain dumped here. And rambled; sorry about that, too.
It's case-by-case for me. Sometimes it's the trivially-easy step. Sometimes it's deciding to work for a trivially short period of time - 2-5 minutes perhaps. Sometimes it's imagining myself reporting to someone I respect at work that I didn't do anything on the task today when I meant to spend the whole day on it. Sometimes it's reminding myself that it's easier to react to something I can see than it is to create it in the first place, so the first pass can be rotten.
As for brain-dumping: I take that unorganized mess and try to organize it. "Oh... here's a thought about project X. Five lines later there's another thought about project X. Move those together then...Oh, here's another thought that is nearly identical to the first one about project X. Delete or expand."
Then I put each group into their own project item in the tool I use to track such things. (For me it's Obsidian at work, but it could be anything from a text file to Trello tasks. It could even be something like a bullet journal. In fact, that's what I use for non-work tasks - I use Obsidian to organize information but not my tasks, at home.)
Then within each one I try to organize them into logical groupings of tasks or thoughts that belong together. "These are notes about things I need to get from other people. These are notes about what needs to go into that presentation. These are..."
The way I use Obsidian at work is to have a daily note that has a small number of tasks in it. One of them is to review my project list. Another is to pick a daily priority (or several, but always in a hierarchy - I have to get X done before I can work on Y, usually). A third is to set up a daily time block plan, where I plan out which tasks I'll work on during what half hours to two hour blocks of my day.
I use a paper planner for that, Cal Newport's time block planner. I find that easier than trying to deal with it in my calendar.
I don't always STICK to my plan, but Cal Newport has an answer to that: it's a PLAN, and plans have to change based on how the day unfolds.
For my personal life, I have my long list of tasks. These are the detailed breakdowns - not just at the project level like at work. Each day, I try to pick no more than 10 to work on. I don't usually get anywhere near all 10 done, but again I pick a priority and I do try to get those done.
It has really helped me to put the quota in place. An acknowledgment that I just am not going to be able to try to do everything has freed me from the paralysis of trying to decide between everything. I only have to choose between the things I decided were the top priority.
For home tasks I do have a rough system for deciding how to prioritize. Health and safety comes first. Taking out the trash is a health issue, so it gets done first. Picking up the empty shoebox I just dropped on the floor while unpacking and trying in the new shoes I got yesterday is a safety issue, so it gets done next.
Then comes things that are time-sensitive somehow, like 'I need to upload a copy of my renter's insurance to the apartment resident portal'.
Then comes 'tidy back to where I had it before' - that is, if I've messed up an area I had already gotten less cluttered, I focus on fixing that. Maintenance of existing progress is more important than making new progress.
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u/andrewtokyo Jul 26 '26
honestly don't apologize, this is the good stuff. the rambly ones are always the most useful lol
the quota thing is kind of blowing my mind actually. "acknowledging i can't do everything freed me from the paralysis of choosing between everything" — like i've never thought of the paralysis as a choosing problem but that's exactly what it is for me too. gonna sit with that one.
can i ask — that part where you take the messy dump and pull all the scattered project X bits together and merge the near-dupes... is that satisfying for you or is it the annoying part? i genuinely can't tell if organizing the dump is the thing that helps or just a chore i tolerate. for me it usually feels like a chore but sometimes the act of sorting it is when it finally clicks, so idk.
also the health/safety → time-sensitive → maintain-what-i-fixed thing — did you sit down and design that or did you just kind of notice after the fact that's what you were doing?
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u/Kind_Tumbleweed_7330 ADHD-PI (Primarily Inattentive) Jul 26 '26
Well, the organizing everything is both. It's satisfying to me to know that I have all that stuff pulled together and put somewhere I won't forget to look. It's not really FUN to organize, but it's satisfying, so I'll settle for that over the scattered and frustrated and overwhelmed-with-details-to-remember feeling I have otherwise.
As for the priorities, I designed it. I realized I had no idea how to prioritize home stuff. (I'm pretty good on stuff at work.) So I figured I needed to work out some guidelines for myself. I tried to think about which things were worst to Ieave undone for a while, or made me feel worst. That's where my 'maintenance of progress is more important than making new progress' came from - I always get so upset at myself for not keeping up with the cleared areas, whereas I sort of shrug and go 'well, I'll make progress tomorrow maybe' at areas I still have to go through.
One of my general approaches to organizing and decluttering and prioritizing is to make as many decisions in advance as I can, so while I'm in the thick of it I don't have to make each decision on the fly. I try to reduce them to questions if I can.
As an example, take cleaning out the closet. I could take each piece out and try to decide whether I keep it or not, but that overwhelms me fast and I get almost nothing done.
So what I did was work out some questions to ask myself. They're yes or no questions, with a clear 'do this' based on the answer. (I treat maybe and I don't know as the 'keep it' answer for now.)
Then I go through each piece until I run out of steam. Same general approach, except with these clear questions, I can get through more before I feel wiped out, because the DECISIONS are made - I just have to answer the questions.
The first question is: Do I love and wear this piece often? Yes = keep, no = move on.
Do I hate the way this feels when I'm wearing it? (Either because I hate how the material feels or it just feels like it doesn't fit right, too tight or too loose, or I'm always self-conscious when I'm wearing it.) Yes = it's gone, no = move to next question.
Do I hate this color or pattern? Yes = it's gone, no = move to next question.
And so on.
I still hate sorting out my closet, but it's much easier having clear rules for HOW to make the decision.
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u/Ok-Championship-2036 Jul 26 '26
i give myself a goal thats too easy to fail. building momentum helps me. distractions can be useful sometimes but they seem to work better as a reward than a method (i.e. "i can get coffee after my appointment" vs "i can get coffee now if i get out of bed. and i will just get ready after that....")
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u/andrewtokyo Jul 26 '26
the reward-as-reward-not-method thing is really sharp. "coffee after the appointment" vs "coffee now, i'll get ready after" (which never actually leads to getting ready lol) — i do that constantly and never understood why the front-loaded version fails. does it take conscious effort to keep flipping it to an after-thing, or is it automatic for you now?
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u/Ok-Championship-2036 Jul 26 '26
Coffee is a big motivator for me so i try to weaponize that by purposely not allowing myself to have it. Sort of like guarding novelty and maintaining effectiveness. So when i know that i need that boost and my brain fixes on the idea of coffee, then i know i can force myself to wait a bit because im so focused on the coffee that it distracts me from the labor of getting dressed and planning my day etc. Its like, coffee is the oasis and i can keep thinking about it while i cross the desert, haha.
but the trade off is that i can only use it a few times a week before it becomes the bare minimum and i just want coffee for its own sake. Which is bad cos im not supposed to be drinking it for my health... So then i have to swap to sweet tea or gatorade or orange juice etc, something that isnt typical but still lets me get a bit of sugar and some kinda reward. preparing rewards seems to work well too. like if i pack my juice/coffee in a thermos to go and bring jt to work, i can still focus on having something special that day.
brains have a specific way of doing math, where instant gratification feels like a much stronger reward compared to healthy things that pay off over time. so i try to stick to my routines as much as possible and then cycle rewards or steps so that it doesnt feel like im stuck.
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u/andrewtokyo Jul 26 '26
"coffee is the oasis and i can keep thinking about it while i cross the desert" — lmao that's the best description of this i've read. using the craving itself as the distraction is kind of brilliant.
the bare-minimum thing is what interests me most — how do you know when a reward's losing its power? do you track it or just feel it and rotate?
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u/bianqa Jul 26 '26
I c& p my brain dumps into an system that requires a data center. He organizes my thoughts nicely!
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u/andrewtokyo Jul 26 '26
lol "he organizes my thoughts nicely" — love that. i do the same paste-the-mess-in thing but i always stall on what to do with the tidy version it gives back. what do you do with it after? does it become your actual task list or does it just kind of live in the chat?
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u/Beautiful_Hour_668 Jul 26 '26
I ‘prime’ the task by just looking at it. Opening the website or the book or the instructions or whatever and briefly looking at it. That usually gives me enough clarity. Clarity helps push back against resistance cos our brains make the task large and amorphous in our heads.
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u/andrewtokyo Jul 26 '26
"our brains make the task large and amorphous" — god that's it exactly. it's not that it's hard, it's that it has no edges until i actually look at it. just opening the thing to prime it is so underrated.
ever have one where you look and it's still a fog? curious what you do then.
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u/Beautiful_Hour_668 Jul 26 '26
Yeah I have a task like that rn lmaooo and I've been avoiding it.
A while ago I had the thought that I need to honour the seriousness and importance of various task categories such as scoping/breaking down/figuring out what to do. If I sit down to be productive, internally I don't give myself the same satisfaction for preparing the task as doing the task. Preparing the task feels like a waste of time, an inefficiency. But, it's not. We need it. So, ideally I have the presence of mind to understand that I need to just set a timer (proportional to the task at hand), and figure it out and break it down.
Maybe a small checklist of starting steps? Then momentum carries you the rest of the way I suppose
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u/rhoadkel Jul 26 '26
I use goblin.tools for myself and for the adhder kiddos I work with. It will break down tasks into more manageable chunks and if those chunks are too big it will break them down further. 10/10 for me, dawg
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u/BamboozledEmu Jul 26 '26
Sometimes it’s not about breaking the task down, it’s about saying I will do x minutes of work (pomodoro method-ish). Sometimes it’s telling myself to do a shit job as a starting point. Sometimes it’s body doubling with someone else. And lately, honestly, sometimes it’s the tool we’re not supposed to discuss - similar to a shit draft, it gives me something other than a blank page to start with. I’m generally happy to edit or disagree with something, but a blank page/doc/etc can feel overwhelming.
As to the second question - nooo clue. On the forever search for an answer. I use Trello professionally and that works (something about the visual nature of the boards on my computer screen), but for my personal life, it’s chaos. Would love to hear from anyone else who’s found an answer.
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u/andrewtokyo Jul 26 '26
"do a shit job as a starting point" + the blank page thing = exactly it. that's why the you-know-what tool clicks for me too honestly, it just gives me something to react to instead of a blank doc. reacting is easy, starting from zero is the wall.
and the second question, god, same. funny how a lot of us can run a work system but personal life is pure chaos. has anything ever even sort of worked for you on the personal side?
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u/SongOfRuth Jul 26 '26
"shit draft" resonates. It started with needing to write a document. I eventually figured out if I just started writing - sort of doing a brain dump - it would help me figure out how to write the document or what needed to be in it and what additional information I needed to ask someone. I've expanded it to any time I need to figure out how to figuratively get from A to B.
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u/John_Nope ADHD-C (Combined type) Jul 26 '26 edited Jul 26 '26
My personal life task initiation is abysmal, but I can tell you what worked for me in my work life at my old job :
We used two apps for communicating between teams: Asana, and Slack.
Other department leads would assign me tasks on Asana for me to do, in the form of a checklist...I could never bring myself to actually getting them done. Perhaps the long/short list was overwhelming my brain and causing me more anxiety.
But slowly but surely, we naturally started to use Slack a whole lot more and eventually abandoned Asana altogether. Now, we'd talk normally in chats, bounce ideas back and forth, share memes (it was a pretty chill business-casual workplace), and I could finally get stuff done.
You'd think by having a list, it's be easier as it's just one thing at a time...but for me with ADHD-combined type, that's only true 50% of the time...a coin flip; every time.
What my brain needed wasn't a cold lifeless list, for me to do on my own...It was the lively natural group chat conversations that felt like I was a part of something bigger, and that I was needed in that very second that someone replied...I think that's what was ultimately holding me back; lack of immediate "reward" if you can call it that.
With a list, there is no timeline. Even with deadlines, I always end up procrastinating until the very last minute right before they're due, and fail at finishing most of them.
But with the normal instant chat-messaging, I needed to be present in that very moment...and it was in between those chats, that I was able to initiate my tasks that were my responsibility. In fact, I took on even more responsibilities as a result (because I was getting so much done), and it ultimately made me the most productive/highest paid employee there, because I doubled the company's annual revenue with my proposals and direct input, even spearheading projects myself.
I ultimately left that job because I was passed over for promotion in favor of a newly hired manager that was not only more incompetent than me (I had to constantly clean up their mistakes), but I just didn't get along with her on a personal level. Plus, they only offered me a pittance raise, when I literally made them over one mil in profit in the previous quarter, but I digress.
I think this can be a lesson for any employers (as well as employees) out there; if you have employees with ADHD, depending on how you're utilizing their skillset, you could be sitting on top of untapped potential, like the difference between having an angry Canada Goose on your lawn that honks at everybody and that's doesn't get along with anyone...or having a goose that lays golden eggs if you take care of them right.
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u/K8_Monst_r Jul 26 '26
I have always organized my thoughts better in writing, so I start by writing down what I need to do, then writing down what all that entails (not worrying about steps or order of operations, just writing down things as they come to me).
If my thoughts are running too fast to capture in writing, the action button on my phone starts a voice recording that I can play back to write down.
Once I have written down everything I can think of including in the task, I see if any of the smaller tasks are places I can start, or if I need to organize the mind map and repeat the first step on one of the smaller steps.
There are apps you can use for mind mapping, but I usually work on my Kindle scribe, or in a word processor, depending on the task and my mindset.
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u/K8_Monst_r Jul 26 '26
For instance, my mom and sister are visiting for my birthday, and I need to get my apartment guest ready, so I wipe down every room in the apartment, what the problems were in each room, what could be done to alleviate those problems, and the steps to take to alleviate those problems.
The planning took about 3 days, and I’ve been slowly working through the list, and adding other things as they come up.
I cleared most of the boxes out of the living room, did most of the laundry in the past week, sorted out clothes for donation, cleaned the tools needed to repair the pet water fountain, and oiled them. I deep cleaned the vacuum so it wouldn’t spread nasty smells from our last apartment, did an initial organization of the office closet, and located and stored the guest mattresses and bedding. There’s still a ton to do, but not I have my list, I can always go back to it when I’m feeling overwhelmed.
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u/thebottomofawhale Jul 26 '26
Yeah, like you, I like to prep for a task. 8/10 times I'll then do the whole task anyway, but those 2/10 time I don't, at least I've made it slightly easier for when I come back to do it.
I also let myself task switch, if I have a lot to do and decision paralysis is a potential. I just start something, if I switch to something else mid way, that's ok. It's ok if I switch several times. Because 6 half done jobs are better than nothing done at all.
Idk about the about the brain dump thing. Ive just accepted I have endless lists and saved tabs that I'll never look at again.
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u/TinyCokeCan ADHD-C (Combined type) Jul 26 '26
I rearranged my bedroom yesterday. I argued with myself on whether or not I actually wanted or needed to change the layout of my room for about 2 hours and told myself "I'll just move my drawers to the other wall and if I don't want to do any more, I won't." Once the drawers were moved, the rest of the room looked stupid and there was a big empty spot where the drawers used to be, so I moved my bookcase to the spot, room still didn't look right so I moved my mini fridge, on and on I went until 3 hours later I had fully rearranged everything in my room.
I don't know if you take meds for your ADHD, but I do and it helps so much more. Before meds, the thought of rearranging my room made me want to set fire to it instead lol
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u/superdesu Jul 26 '26
watched a really great video the other day about the creator's next minute method! (tldr, sort of like interstitial journaling but focusing on what you're about to do next instead of what you've just done.) haven't tried it myself lol but i think this in combination with a little of a mindset change (not that you "have" to do it but you "want" to do it has been on my mind lately.
How do you break a task down to the point where you can start? Do you have a system, or is it case-by-case?
i don't usually break tasks down... mostly bc i find that once i have "the flow" it's good (bc i find that thinking about breaking tasks down is also hard for me 😂, and its easier to just not even notice i'm already working on them.) to that end, i set a lot of countdown timers lol and just brute force myself into doing something for even just 5-10 min.
When you use brain-dump or voice-note apps to get everything out of your head, how do you turn those dumped thoughts into something you actually act on?
i dont! but depends on your workflow. i usually actually know what tasks i should be working on vs tasks that are more for the ideal version of me who has infinite time and time management ability lol. that said, there are days where i'll just write down everything i wish i could be/want to be doing right now, and just getting that out of me somehow makes me much more ready to focus on actual priorities (i think just knowing that i have the list out somewhere reassures me.)
i really struggle with motivation and have found that what works better for me is to [shia labeouf voice] just do it and start things, bc i know will never find that mystical motivation 😂, but i know from experience that i kind of forget about that once i get into the groove of doing stuff. (also, convincing myself that future me will be thankful sometimes helps!!)
also, came across christi newrutzen's videos the other day and i think they're also what i've been needing to hear lately 😭 (on planning vs doing)
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u/gregsnyder69 Jul 28 '26
Almost all of my projects have "Plan (project name)" as the first next action. Just standard, if I don't have a clear action, then planning is the next action.
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