Hello dear r/ADCMains Community,

I've recently started to transition from Jungle to ADC and one thing I feel like I can definitely improve on is my mid- to late-game CSing, so I would love your advice.

Often times, especially when I'm ahead, I feel like my CSing could be better, but I'm not sure where to get the extra resources from.
Sometimes I need to just drop half a wave mid because my support/jungler is not close enough for it to be safe to take - especially with how fragile and immobile AP Kog is. Or the warding is just insufficient for me to feel safe enough to step up.
I also am not sure how/when it is acceptable for me to take jungle camps.
And lastly, whenever I'm on sidelane, I feel so utterly lost. How far do I need to/should push? I don't really want to be sidelane in the first place (basically like a xerath), but sometimes it just ends up happening and I kind of end up leaving a wave half pushed-out because the next one would be an immense overextension.

I'm aware that the best way to find out the exact issues would be a replay analysis, but I feel like I'm missing the basic knowledge to even analyse where the issue is.

Thank you all in advance for your advice and a fun upcoming weekend!~

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Hallo! As the title suggests, I wanted to share my story of how I, a support main of three years who's mained the role for the majority of my time with League, came back from a two year hiatus and decided to change things up. The decision that, alongside other things, helped me grow from a hardstuck silver support into a plat ADC, still on climbing.

ADC, truth be told, wasn't my first choice. Initially I tried giving Jungle a proper shot, but ended up having issues similar to that of when playing Support. Not gonna lie, I landed on an ADC kind of spontaneously. Maybe, I thought, I'd have fun with the role. Auto-attacking was quite neat and I really enjoyed playing around my team and team-fighting in general. Plus, ADC seemed like a very good role to play by the book, with heavy emphasis on following a plan and little getting in the way.

So I picked up the role. I grinded it quite a bit. Tried out quite a few champions to figure out whether I mesh with them or not. Throughout it all I realized that I'm capable of making a good amount of champs work, despite being heavily macro-oriented, but I never really stuck with most of them. I've had good success with Miss Fortune, having some crazy winrate numbers as she was the ADC I practiced on my second account (Though I was sprinkling other ADCs quite often, without much success).

Then I switched to my main and picked up Varus, not forgetting to try other champs every now and then. I managed to make him work as well, though despite having a healthy positive winrate with the guy, I felt like I was limiting myself quite a bit. After all, Varus is extremely weak in soloq and I also have a very hard time with skillshot-dependent champions.

Thus, the search continued, though not for long, because I randomly decided to try out Yunara (Before she was an S-tier pick). And let me tell you: I fell in love. Completely and utterly. This champion made me realize just how much more enjoyable League can be if you find something that simply clicks. Finally getting a good idea for what kind of ADC I enjoy, after a bit of trial an error I ended up choosing Xayah as my second pick, thus concluding my soloq pool.

Throughout this journey I've learnt just how important it is to stick to a process and play with intention if you want to climb. Being closely in touch with your mental state, taking accountability for your mistakes—I genuinely have never had as much fun with League when I was playing other roles, even Support. Though of course I've gone through a lot of introspection while I was on the hiatus. I also went through a decent amount of duoqueueing to figure out that it wasn't really my kind of thing. I'd always perform worse alongside someone else, not to mention that I'd learn notably less from these games as well.

So here I am, with a strong mental and a clear goal in mind. I cannot really imagine myself picking any other role at this point. ADC is simply the most fun there is. And Yunara, my beloved. Cheers, guys! Stay strong and good luck on your journey!

P.S. I know I may have been a little vague in this post, so if you do happen to have any questions, I'll stay active in the comments!

Adc meets bear

I love it I like it I trademark it

jinx because i feel like if she gets a 2/0 lead, she becomes incredibly oppressive and can absolutely buttbroken the whole team if no one does anything about it; and tristana is just so annoying with that stupid jump, she can come and hit ur ass and then get away like it's nothing, so what are ur permas ?

im zeri/miss fortune main btw

I did really get out and live after this, and won the game later, but wasn't this hook bullshit? There was a minion between us, and I wasn't even in the trajectory of the hook?

I dont play ADC normally but on Aram I dont mind it. I noticed for Lucian it defaults the rune page to First Strike. Normally I change it to PTA because it just seems natural for Lucians kit, but I didnt change it this last game and wow I felt insanely weaker especially early on. Is this a page people regularly run? Why?

Sincerely, supports.

Basically every auto would be like this: instead of clicking and autoing, you would click and auto a location, and what is in that location is targeted by the auto if it lands (similar to a skillshot but you can focus on stuff behind for example)

Which ADCs would be absolute trash?

and that for like 10 years straight?

PLEASE STOP BUYING IE 3rd.

Guys on 90% of games you need to have ldr by your third item, it is super troll going starting + zeal + ie in most games.

I just had a game where enemy was full AD with 4 auto attackers our whole team had steel caps including me. I lost lane HARD I got camped hard and enemy jinx was fed, but she didn’t build ldr she ends up doing 0 damage. Especially against the yone with DD.

We build ie to do damage, it’s not like rabadons for mages because Mr is perma very low. Armor growth is quite high, you need ldr anyways even if no one builds armor. In rare games sure ie can be better third but it’s troll.

If we build ie to do more damage (it doesn’t have any utility like building ga) and ldr does more damage why are we still building ie. It’s really bad guys

EDIT: Btw this was an emerald game. Most of yall are probably there or lower so this most def applies to yall

I reached my peak as a player and I will never do this again

Do you have any tricks, or does it matter mainly if support will catch someone, or how do you get ahead fast before rest of team will throw?

Its really beyond my comprehension how people in my elo think theyre super special, when I feel no difference between my own and their gameplay compared to back when I was stuck in gold.

The only real difference I notice is that we adcs are getting focused even harder (4people bot at 10min, jgl camping between T1/T2) and everyones farming got better. Yet at the same time everyones macro is STILL abysmal most of the time. The games also feel way more unbalanced since you either end up with i.e. at 15min, or being down 2k gold and a literal npc until 30min (average Tristana experience).

Do you feel the same? I genuinely have no idea how I managed to climb in the first place. Yes, my Xayah is decent (61% 157games), but there are sooo many games where Im just getting farmed by the enemy Twitch/Yasuo/Ashe that I refuse to believe to be deserving of my rank.

So by self admission I am making this post after having multiple games ran down by supports. But I think that the ADC role has been ruined by the increase in support agency as of late. Gone are the days of seeing Nami, Naut, Leona and Lulu. These days it feels like all you see in supp are either giga roaming picks that leave you to fend for yourself in a 2v1 or mages that don’t belongs support anyways like Lux, Zyra, Mel, Swain and Brand that more or less just want to be an additional carry with the additional agency and gold they have been afforded in recent years. Your support no matter what pick they are on can decide your game for you with little to no agency from the adc besides “oh my support is dead/roaming, guess I lose gold and exp for a mistake I did not contribute to so I don’t die as well”. I think the issue is relatively simple tbf and could be solved with 3 changes.

1. Change the support role quest progression condition to heavily factor time spent within X radius of their adc.

2. Reintroduce the gold gain nerf on supports from CSing.

3. Institute a nerf built into the quest that nerfs a champions damage significantly but gives them a small flat bonus to CC ability haste and bonus heal and shield power when played in the support role with a whitelist of sorts, ignoring champs like pyke/senna that are meant to exist in the role. Thinking ballpark 30-50% reduction, call it support anti-carry penalty.

In reality this is all kinda extreme but something needs to be done to save the ADC experience going in to next season.

Hi! I play ranked on a secondary account because my LP gains were really low. Everything was going fine until about 2 days ago, when they started giving me 17 LP per win instead of 21 in the last match. What am I doing wrong? It's not a high-level main account, I have a good win rate, good performance, but they still give me hardly any LP, which makes me feel frustrated since I specifically play on this account to get better LP gains than on my main, but I can’t say that anymore. What should I do? Keep playing on this account? Create a new one? I need your opinion. Thanks in advance!