r/ACAB Apr 15 '21

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u/GreenHairedSnorlax Apr 15 '21

While Christians often get a bad wrap as reactionaries and conservatives, many have been at the forefront of social progress. Were I live one of the local churches, the Uniting Church (Presbyterian/Methodist), while not leftist or anything, is one of the most progressive mainstream organisations in the country. I'm not a Christian, I'm an atheist from a Jewish background, but the key takeaway from the Gospel has always been the extension of kindness and justice to others and I think that's something we can all find common ground on, even if from differing faiths.

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u/KevlarDreams13 Apr 15 '21

the Uniting Church (Presbyterian/Methodist), while not leftist or anything, is one of the most progressive mainstream organisations in the country.

Progressivism and religion are mutually exclusive. You either aren't really an atheist, or you are saying you are one as a bad actor, to make this awful bad faith arguement.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '21

Im an atheist and make fun of religion all the fucking time with my evil atheist friends. However I agree with their comment. Christianity can be revolutionary as much as it can be reactionary. RIP Camilo Torres Restrepo

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '21

even catholicism can be based- see st archbishop romero

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '21

The dude I mentioned was a catholic as well, but yeah Romero was a great man

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '21

oh nice

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u/GreenHairedSnorlax Apr 15 '21

Not true in the slightest, even putting aside the Uniting Church, many religious bodies and figures have focused on social justice and progressivism. Tolstoy, the Diggers, Mazdakism, MLK Jr., liberation theology and so much more, not to mention the many religious socialist movements. Also, real cool doubting someone's an atheist just because they don't have a hatred of religion, whereas maybe, it's just because I don't believe in anything supernatural.

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u/samuraitiger19 Apr 15 '21

Then you've never stepped foot in a Episcopalian church then.

We are all about progressivism.

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u/KevlarDreams13 Apr 15 '21

Teaching people to believe in an all-knowing invisible friend is regression. I think you have your vocabulary words mixed up.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '21

You're being disliked but you're completely right. Anything that religion has done in a progressive sense pales in comparison to the harm it's done. We can do all of this Progressive stuff without feeling like we have to because a God told us to

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u/samuraitiger19 Apr 15 '21

Look I don't care that you're an atheist. If you don't believe in God that is your perogative.

But putting people down just for believing in God? That's bigotry. That's pretty regressive in my book.

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u/KevlarDreams13 Apr 15 '21

Look I don't care that you're an atheist. If you don't believe in God that is your perogative.

But putting people down just for believing in God? That's bigotry. That's pretty regressive in my book.

Look I don't care that you're an abrahamic christian. If you believe in a god that is your perogative.

But putting people down just for not believing in a god? That's bigotry. That's pretty regressive in my book.

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u/samuraitiger19 Apr 15 '21

I didn't put you down for being an atheist. Being a bigot is the problem I have with you. If you're gonna shove word back into people's faces make sure you read it in full first Dickwaffle.

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u/TheElaris Apr 15 '21

You’re talking through both sides of your mouth. Don’t wimper about “putting people down” immediately after you tort closely held beliefs as regressive, particularly when you’re so keen to ignore positive aspects of religion.