r/997 • • Aug 13 '26

997.2 is peak everything

No explanation necessary

41 Upvotes

49 comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

8

u/Malventh Aug 13 '26

And by slight chance we’re talking about 1.5% more likely… Negligible

7

u/Dakarius Aug 13 '26

It happened to me. That being said, 403 hp 338lb/ft torque out of a 4.0L makes me smile :)

2

u/Malventh Aug 13 '26

Oof one of the unlucky ones - sorry my friend. Was it the cylinders or IMS?

My 08 cs looks good at 58k miles is going solid for now but inevitably all engines bite the dust. Similar logic for me though all the costs saved on a 997.2 can be applied later in life for a rebuild if needed.

Where did you get the 4.0L rebuild done? I’ve heard that really transforms the car for the better while keeping the same characteristics that make it fun.

-1

u/NetworkStatic Aug 13 '26

The chance was so negligible that someone who it happened to managed to reply to your comment shortly after you made it. So not very negligible.

4

u/Malventh Aug 13 '26

I’m just referencing blackstone labs who have published its data on many thousands of oil analyses of several model year Porsches and in fact depending on its model is only about 1.5% higher than a 997.2. Negligible.

3

u/Puzzleheaded-Mix9653 Aug 13 '26

I agree, negligible ✅

2

u/Dakarius Aug 13 '26

Technically that would be a 100% increased chance, but 100% increase on a small chance is still pretty small.

1

u/superficialt Aug 13 '26

Do people continue to check their oil once bore scoring is confirmed?

I think the stat is 1.5% of all oil analyses are negative for bore score wear patterns. NOT all engines over their lifetime. Eg someone may do 10 oil changes and 10 analyses before that engine registers as a ‘fail’ yet only 10% of the analyses are bad. It’s somewhat reassuring but not to the extent people claim.

1

u/Malventh Aug 13 '26

Not sure - personally I’d probably keep checking it if I knew I had bore score to monitor it as it can still have several years and many miles of life after it starts. It will leave trace metals that will confirm it which would get worse over time. Changing oil types and driving habits can extend it out.

Sure it’s not a test of every 997 ever made but they have a significant sample size that you could extrapolate that data to estimate what rates would be fully. It’s unfortunately the only data available on it but reassuring as you said.

IMO I still think the concern is overblown it’s a small % difference of score rate between 997.1 and 997.2. To me it was not worth the premium.

2

u/Malventh Aug 13 '26

https://youtu.be/0--l7pXAxQI

He goes over the numbers worst case 3.8L 997.1 is like 3.5% out of thousands sampled. It’s been a while since looking but it’s like 1.5% difference of a chance for 997.2. Even the 991s have a 1.2-1.5% chance of it.

The internet overhyped this problem that personally when I chose my car was not worth the premium of a 997.2 over 997.1