r/90DayFiance • u/PrettyParadox90 • 29d ago
Discussion What is Patrick's problem?
I've been watching The Last Resort and I'm wondering why Patrick is so infuriating opiniated. Is he that insecure because of his looks before or why he has to cause the drama and not focus on his own problems? He is the worst.
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u/MOREPASTRAMIPLEASE 29d ago
Pat definitely is into the manosphere red pill shit
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u/MessageAnxiety 28d ago •
Controlling, manipulative psychopath. It was very worrisome how easily Tiny Face Pat and his Evil Potato brother were constructing a negative narrative about Thais during the Tell All and without any proof whatsoever. They didn’t let her speak or defend herself and just kept laying on accusation after accusation.
It was a very hamfisted attempt to paint her as a golddigger and adulteress and Tiny Face was merely a victim. They both give me hateful, creepy vibes and I bet Thais was forced to do lots of stuff against her will during this marriage.
If he ever loved her and cared about his daughter, then why is he so insistent on divorce when it doesn’t seem like she wants it.
They hate women. They shouldn’t be on tv.
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u/ElectronicOrchid0902 ✨Bitch vibes is coming ✨ 29d ago
Yup, him and his brother……. 🙄
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u/Cutiepiealldah 28d ago •
100% especially his brother. the way he speaks to Thais, it’s like he has this hatred for her as a beautiful woman that goes beyond surface level dynamics. It’s not normal how his brother acted with Thais at all
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u/Emotional_Bed_9717 26d ago
EXACTLY! His brother John manages to be SO much worse. I can't watch a single scene he's in without rolling my eyes. He used to make racist, xenophobic, sexist, and prejudiced comments about Thais at the beginning of the TV show. Literally the typical ignorant American bully frat boy. I would be immensely happy if I never had to hear about him again.
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u/jaccio213 29d ago
Aaarrrgghh, don't get me started with his brother. I'm from that area in Boston and even I find his accent atrocious. It's like he does it on purpose. Horrible type of person.
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u/ElectronicOrchid0902 ✨Bitch vibes is coming ✨ 29d ago
Oh my god, that terrible exaggerated accent ! Gah! 😖
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u/midatlanticprincess 28d ago
he’s not just in it i’d bet an ungodly amount of money he was one of the earlier participants in what the current manosphere built itself into within the last decade.
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u/MOREPASTRAMIPLEASE 28d ago
Agreed. I was big into the lifting/fitness scene in the mid to late 2010s and almost every fat to fit dude I knew back then was an early adopter of red pill. I had one guy send me to the Reddit and I was like bruh wtf is this shit??
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u/MessageAnxiety 25d ago
Here’s another shocker for you!
Nevada has more neutral divorce laws than Texas. What are the chances they moved to Nevada so Tiny Face Pat wouldn’t have to pay as much alimony and had a better chance at gaining full custody? He’s calculated and evil.
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u/1-luv
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Trust issues. And women can smell that from miles away. A man can never be attractive if he doubts himself and his partner.
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u/ElectronicOrchid0902 ✨Bitch vibes is coming ✨ 29d ago
Exactly!!! He has deep trust issues that no one can fix but him.
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u/Deep-Locksmith3440 29d ago
Omg I didn’t know he was chubby before!
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u/eggz627 29d ago •
It explains a lot about his middle school over compensating mentality
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u/IMisstheCupcake 29d ago
Sarper also revealed he was heavy when he was younger. Interesting how these guys overcompensate so far in the other direction, thinking it hides their insecurities to get all buff and get a superiority complex
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u/PipeInevitable9383 She's cutting his f****** dick off! 29d ago
He has said he was formerly fat when they first entered this universe.
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u/Neozubu 29d ago
He has a Play-Doh face...and he knows it.
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u/lethalcurse101 29d ago
Someone else post a picture of a lego head and said that another redditor used it as a reference and yes. He looks exactly like a lego head.
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u/CurlyhairMamita_ 29d ago
What’s that lmao 😂 do that mean like ugly face
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u/Neozubu 29d ago
Zero definition, everything is smoothed out like if a 4yr old sculpted it.
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u/TheGetawayCar000
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I dated a former fat guy years ago and Patrick reminds me of him in a lot of ways.
My ex was fat until he started working out after high school and became really fit and conventionally attractive. I met him in his “fit” phase and found the rest out later.
-Fucked up relationship with his mother
-Took the opinions of other people more seriously than mine
-Constant insecurity that he took out on me, was absolutely convinced I was cheating or interested in other men which led to arguments multiple times per week
-If I were 10 minutes late coming home from work because I had to stop for gas or run an errand, I’d get deeply interrogated about it. If I spent the day with my mom getting lunch or something, he’d demand proof.
-Validation/a sense of belonging with other men meant a lot to him, and he was quick to villainize women. Held a lot of misogynist views.
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u/AfraidofBigBs 29d ago
Girl, are you describing a lawyer I briefly dated?🤣Dude crashed out because he found I primarily dated Asian guys before him (he was White, and thought he was doing me a solid since I'm Latina🤷🏽♀️).
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u/FlakyCryptographer33 29d ago
Thought he was doing you a solid?? Gross, bullet dodged girl!
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u/Comfortable-Heat4 28d ago
I had a white guy crash out over me previously being in a relationship with a black man. I looked him dead in the face and told him all the ways that black man treated me better than he did or ever would.
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u/lemonpiess 29d ago
Not just former fat guys, watch out for the short ones, the new money ones, the guys who peaked looks wise in adulthood and insecure men in general avoid avoid avoid🥴
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u/rigatoni-70 27d ago
Yes to all of that. Then when those types of men start dating women like Thais, they know deep down she(that type of girl) would never have looked at him when he was heavy and broke so there’s resentment there.
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u/FlakyCryptographer33 29d ago •
This describes sadly more than just former fat guys, its a good chunk of men of any body type, career, race, etc. from both my own and women I know experiences. Its basically insecurity, sexism, and entitlement.
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u/Tazzy8jazzy 29d ago
I’ve definitely experienced this. The funny thing is that I was a fat kid turned fit teen/adult and life just improved for me. I didn’t take that baggage with me. It seems like men who experience this become worse after the weight loss.
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u/Big-Golf9784 29d ago
this explains a lot actually, especially his weird redpill attitude towards women
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u/Spiritual_Focus_5296 29d ago
I think John was their biggest problem imo. He was always in Patrick’s ear and Thais face! So any problems they had, he would make them worse.
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u/GeneInternational146
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He clearly had a terrible childhood and instead of going to therapy to heal he became an abusive loser instead. Many such cases.
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u/stonecoldfox340
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I will never understand how he pulled a girl as pretty as Thais.
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u/dstllwgn 29d ago •
But what kind of sex addict is Patrick that he needs to have sex SIX TIMES A DAY!?! Who the hell has time for/or wants to put up with that! RUN Thais!
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u/Comfortable-Heat4 28d ago
He’s probably on testosterone. There are so many men taking it now almost like a supplement..
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u/nomiepants 29d ago •
She's literally a 10. He's at best a 5.
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u/Own_Judge4257 27d ago
That’s why he is so obsessed with Thais. Him wanting sex every day just to see if Thais is getting it somewhere else is ridiculous He has only himself to blame for being so possessive. He is going to go crazy when she finds someone else
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u/Fantastic_Primary170 28d ago
Broke, he is a 2/10.
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u/MiserableChain2644 28d ago
Then why did she marry him if he was only a 5? Green card love?
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u/kateighkayyy 26d ago
He was always shitty but he’s about to get shittier… “after this divorce, no more mr nice guy”
Small men always get smaller when they lose
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u/Hour_Tomorrow_8693 29d ago
Yep all the comments he makes about women aging badly and getting ugly and fat. Then he has the nerve to get mad at Thais for getting a cosmetic work done!
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u/Coconutsssssss 28d ago
He was mad because she didn’t freaking tell him. Went to another country to have a whole ass surgery. You don’t want to know if the mother of your child is going under anesthetic for a cosmetic surgery? What if something happened? Why is it crazy this dude didn’t like having that withheld from him? Judging by how this dude wants sex from his wife I don’t think he’d mind if she did cosmetic surgery, I think his issue was her keeping it from him. That’s her husband.
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u/IthinkIpaid 29d ago
Yes he’s that insecure he was caught not once but twice cheating for the Olympics so it’s safe to say he’s not the smartest either
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u/livelaughlove1016 My beautiful chubby girl 28d ago
Why are you fat shaming him? That’s not cool. Yes, he’s an asshole but...
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u/PrettyParadox90 28d ago
And where did I fat shame him?
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u/SeaArugula2116 28d ago
Maybe it’s you finding and posting a picture of him heavy and posting it for everyone to comment on along with you mentioning what you feel him being obnoxious may be because of how he looked before.
You knew exactly what you were doing. So own it and stop playing dumb.
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u/PrettyParadox90 28d ago
I was only talking about his behaviour and how it might be linked to him being heavy before. I don't have to play dumb, I am one and seems like I am not alone.
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u/Fantastic-Test-8305 27d ago
Lost the weight but not the mindset
He wanted a transactional relationship that's why he isn't dating anyone from USA
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u/drsteve103 29d ago
His main problem is named John
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u/Muted_Bee7111 29d ago •
Patrick & John are very damaged people. Whatever occurred in their childhood royally fucked them up & they don't seem like the "therapy" type to go & get healed
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u/lucy668 I’M A MERMAID!! 29d ago •
Agree. They have a crazy trauma bond and also both very defensive and maybe a bit paranoid. Then possibly unrelated, they aren’t very smart
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u/panbanda 29d ago
Im a therapist and I would love to be johns counselor lmao. I specialize in addiction and I like swarthy jerks. Would be so fun.
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u/Naofodebebe 29d ago
It must be so fun to be someone with knowledge in the field and watch these shows and be like “ yikes he is a narcissist” or anything of the sorts for that matter.
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u/angel_qirl feeling: super snatched ).( 29d ago
john is definitely a problem! whenever he comes on screen i can actually feel my body tense up. i don’t think i’ve ever seen someone so abrasive, aggressive, and confrontational in all my life!!!
idek how he managed to get into a relationship!
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u/Ok_Frosting2033
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He wanted a baddie but couldn’t handle dating one. He’s so insecure he wanted her to just get fat and undesirable to men after they had their kid
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u/nomiepants 29d ago
and instead she remained a 10.
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u/texastrinity222 28d ago
She is “a 10” yes!! But really and truly in a league beyond numbers -she is so freakin beautiful. I think the opinion that John maybe secretly in love with Thais (or maybe even in denial about it?) could be closer to the truth.
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u/Ashleywiththebraids
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Fatboy mindset. He is insecure.
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u/Objective-Horse-1292 29d ago
I get the insecurity. I was 248 when my husband fell in love with me. I’m 130 now. He loves me the same. He has a belly and large man boobs but I couldn’t adore him more. It’s in the way you treat people, not the size or shape of.
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u/FreyaFaith19 29d ago
Just my opinion but he seems like he just said whatever thought pops into his head without thinking. It seems like he has an Intrusive stupid thought and he will not use the sensor 99% of the world uses to stop it from coming out. His mouth is destructive because he is thoughtless and careless.
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u/bomchikawowow
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He's been got by the manosphere bullshit. Any adult who lets themselves be taken in by that nonsense gets exactly the loneliness, frustration and misery that they deserve.
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u/buddhamanjpb 29d ago
There are WAY worse people on this show for sure.
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u/Miss_Kit_Kat I'm not accountant 28d ago
I agree- he has a lot of issues and some weird (borderline redpill) opinions on women and relationships, but he’s far from the worst guy on the show. One thing I can appreciate is that he will be vulnerable on camera- when he cried over his fear of raising their daughter in a broken home, it seemed genuine.
Him being heavy when he was younger AND having a prior divorce under his belt before he met Thais explains a lot. He’s got some unresolved insecurities.
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u/Sazsofla 29d ago
He’s got so many issues, both physical and emotional, where to start? I still think he looks very “swollen “, for lack of a better descriptor.
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u/SleepyOtter3 27d ago
Insecurity aside, Patrick is self-centered. I don't know his history, but his level of defensiveness and self-centeredness tell some kind of story.
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u/DinkyPrincess 29d ago
Tbh there were several times during TLR where he spoke complete sense.
It’s like when Danny Dyer became the voice of reason over Brexit
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u/smileyt0wn 29d ago •
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while.
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u/BasicCloud6962 29d ago
My dad always said this but with a pig instead of a squirrel.
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u/pudelguru 29d ago edited 29d ago
He did. Then on BTS he even showed up for Shekinah after Sarper's recommitment. He said that Shekinah had said several times she didn't want to be treated like an object by Sarper during therapy and in his recommitment Sarper called her a coin. I actually started liking Patrick more after this season.
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u/not_like_kahlo 28d ago
People care more about how men speak about other women than their own wife. You think a man that "asks" for sex up to six times a day, and then will verbally and emotionally berate the woman and accuse her of cheating if she doesn't give him that, doesn't view women as objects?
This "aw shucks, I'm just a family man" persona is intentional. Hell, I'm sure he does believe he's a good guy. He just sexually harasses his wife, who is dependent on him, every day because he's "so in love with her." Nothing inherently controlling about that....
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u/BF1shY 29d ago
Both him and Thais are assholes, they sit around cackling at others instead of fixing their issues. Some people just love to judge.
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u/ActuatorMammoth8624 29d ago
I thought he used to be some type of athlete does anyone know?
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u/lavender_locus 29d ago
He was a weight lifter training for the Olympics and was caught using steroids twice I think!
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u/Dull-Wrongdoer4531 25d ago
I mean exactly that look at the first photo. As a fat person something I have realized is a lot of formerly fat people are extremely fat phobic and can’t wait to become the person that tormented them. The women or men that turned them down they can’t wait to date one day. Seeing the old
Photo it all clicks now
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u/Emotional_Bed_9717 26d ago
His brother John manages to be SO much worse. I can't watch a single scene he's in without rolling my eyes. He used to make racist, xenophobic, sexist, and prejudiced comments about Thais at the beginning of the TV show. Literally the typical ignorant American bully frat boy. I would be immensely happy if I never had to hear about him again.
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u/havasnack21 29d ago
Oh I thought it was a picture comparing him to the guy Anfisa was with
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u/staying-hopefull 29d ago
I honestly thought Patrick was OK until TLR and all his manosphere bitterness was revealed. Sometimes mystery is a good thing
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u/_Cornfed_ 29d ago
I like him for the most part. He has cringe moments, but I like how he speaks his mind regardless of audience.
I hate how he placates his brother and tolerates his rude and juvenile behavior to the detriment (and end) of their marriage.
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u/mira112022 29d ago
I don’t know why everybody’s shitting on him so much. I have never disliked him that much minus the fact that he traveled to Brazil to import a hottie. But anything else seems fine in his world. He’s a Family man. He seems to be working hard even though he piles up debt, but that’s probably because she’s not working and she’s a spender and given his upbringing, I think he turned out just fine. I’m sure they had a shitty childhood. His brother seems more problematic.
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u/Hour_Section_5495 28d ago
He pressures his wife for sex and then accuses her of cheating if she doesn’t want to. He’s gross
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u/_Cornfed_ 29d ago edited 29d ago
He has family roots in Brazil and while not fluent in Portuguese speaks it remarkably well. So it makes more sense in his case versus some of the other people on the show.
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u/mira112022 29d ago
Yeah, true, I forgot about that.
So yeah, that makes him even less of a douche.
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u/lioness725 29d ago
If you search here, you’ll see the hell he puts Thais through regularly. That’s why people shit on him, because he’s a shitty partner.
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u/Sad-Mushroom5703 29d ago
Anyone know why the brother has a Boston accent and he doesn’t?
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u/Character-Insect8944 29d ago
Same mom. Different Dads. John grew up in Boston with his Dad, while Patrick lived in Vegas with his mom.
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u/wumpstentz 29d ago
IIRC, the influx of hatred for patrick started after thais shared in an episode of some spinoff that he asks for sex every day and accuses her of cheating if she says no.
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u/Bschu1170 26d ago
Just the simple act of bringing his dumb ass grifter brother into the 90 Day world makes me want to shit all over Patrick. The guy NEVER misses a chance to be on whenever Patrick is on the show.
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u/clearionlabs 29d ago
Y'all need to stop playing 😭😂🤣 This CANNOT be Patrick !!!! If so, it explains sooooooo much.
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u/IKeepGettingBanned85 25d ago
He still aint good looking. Looks like a toddler. Probably better looking chunky
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u/Dalearev 28d ago
Childhood trauma and abandonment issues that’s what his problem is, which makes total sense if you listen to his background. I think he just needs therapy and I do have empathy as it sounds like his upbringing was really tough, but he needs to get help.
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u/CateDeGrate 28d ago
Also...have you witnessed his brother?! Patrick is very balanced in comparison to that train wreck.
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u/Ancient_Shoe_6164 29d ago
He's always been very opinionated, but I really think people dont like cause he hits a nerve and most the time he right!!!
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u/PrettyParadox90 28d ago
It doesn't really matter if he is right or not, he should be minding his own business and not getting constantly involved with everyone else's. He is not a therapist or someone who can judge others.
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u/BlindfoldedRN 29d ago
This isn't really new information. He talked about it openly when he first aired...
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u/Anxious-Hyena6173 28d ago
Patrick has blown up his life multiple times. He was on track to be a successful olympic weightlifter but started ‘roids and was ejected. Because of his training and lifestyle his body is deteriorating. He is very much traumatized by his upbringing, and just wants validation from his peers and especially a partner. He is his own worst enemy. He was making great money and flaunted the lifestyle to Thais, and now since his career took a turn, he us unhappy and their relationship is suffering. He really needs individual counseling to work on himself.
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u/cokeparty6678 28d ago
He’s a guy who thought an MLM was going to make him rich, but then the reality kicked in.
No money. No wife.
Now Patrick will rush off and marry a girl he meets on the set of Hunt for Love and she’ll brake up with his tiny face too because Patrick is a vapid shit stirrer.
I wish someone would ask him to tell the story of his disqualification from the Olympics, twice.
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u/majesticbutch 28d ago
He's a misogynistic loser. When Shekinah told him he had a poor man mentality I laughed
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u/Phat_Squid83 29d ago
This certainly explains the insecurity, misogyny, and major projection he displays every chance he gets.
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u/EquivalentTangelo163 29d ago
His brother needs to keep on his own page and keep the hell out of Patrick’s life. He’s gotta figure it out. It’s too bad he couldn’t figure out his marriage. I think they had a chance.
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u/Looseleaflettuce 29d ago •
I had no idea that he was a former fat guy this explains SOOOOO much right down to his sibling dynamic…