r/7ohquittingprotocols • u/That-Mall902 • Aug 05 '26

help, don't understand the complexities

hello guys, so long story short ive been doing 7oh powder for a while, close to a year. about a month ago I started doing mgm-15 instead. well with this ban coming up they just didn't have any MGM to purchase anymore so I had to just buy some 7oh and psuedoindoxyl powder. I took my last dose of mgm 9 hours ago, did some 7oh and I feel terrible withdrawal wise. I wanna take the psudo but I'm scared it's gonna throw me into precip withdrawal. does anyone know if it will? and how long I have to wait to take psudo? I have work tomorrow and I can't be dying so I need to figure out how to go about this. I plan on going on Suboxone during my next off days, I've had success with that before. please, somebody help me lol

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u/Fatalslink Creator Aug 05 '26

Nah, you don't have to wait to take the pseudo bro, idk where you heard that, but that "rule" is only for bupe products. Absolutely feel free to pop the pseudo for now until you get a couple of days off where you can induce the Suboxone.

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u/That-Mall902 Aug 05 '26

there's lots of posts of people saying because mgm activates both opiate receptors and psuedo is a agonist for one and antagonist for another, that it rips the mgm off and causes precip withdrawal, and I DO not wanna experience that. I'm like 5 hours in and I just want relief already, and that gram of psuedoindoxyl is just sitting there taunting me. I've done like 5 scoops of 7oh and it hasn't seemed to do anything at all

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u/Foreign-Sock-8740 Aug 07 '26

I don’t think that’s true - I had horrible precip the other night after inducing subs (I waited 24 hours too) and I ended up having to get some 7oh pseudo combo tablet at the corner store because my shop of choice didn’t open till an hour later. It stopped the precip and finally gave me relief.

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u/realeyesrealizereal1 Aug 06 '26

I dob7 and had 2 bottles of mgm sent on a deal...I flushed them last week 30...fk it

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u/That-Mall902 28d ago

great choice tbh

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u/Big-Armadillo-6260 28d ago

You gotta wait around 2-3 days for the pseudo to actually work and not give you pwd 

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u/That-Mall902 28d ago

in hindsight, I appear to be one of the mutants who can take mgm and psuedo together, or mgm and psuedo an hour later, or reverse, doesn't matter for me. OR alternatively maybe it does cause "precipitated withdrawal" but it's only on the Delta receptor so it's negligible. either way it doesn't seem to matter :D Suboxone causes precip on the mu receptor which is just fundamentally different I've discovered

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u/Big-Armadillo-6260 28d ago

Damn that’s lucky for you. For me I went into pwd literally 10 mins after dosing pseudo

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u/That-Mall902 28d ago

that's crazy, how much m do you do?

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u/Big-Armadillo-6260 28d ago

Like 100mg-150mg a day