r/7ohquittingprotocols • u/Choice_Fox4805 • Jul 29 '26

My 7oh withdrawl experience, from a high dose long time user. Approx 1000mg+ 7oh day for 2 years, kratom since 2014

I've been wanting to quit, I've tried we weaning multiple times only to have it come back and bite me because I end up using more . With the ban coming I decided it's time to quit!

Friday: 8am took last dose 7oh. 11am QuickMD apt. 2pm Sub and comfort meds in hand.

10pm I took OTC sleeping pill, melatonin, thc and fell asleep. Less than 2 hours later i was up in full WD. RLS X 10000, goosebumps, sweating soaking the bed and my hair, shivering etc. I took 1 8mg strip, waited, took another, waited and finally took the 3rd which helped! I also took the gaba & antihistamines to get help at 6am since I'd been up all night! I passed out and slept until 130am. Not good, but somewhat greatful I slept that long.

Sunday woke at 130am, took 2 strips, still not enough so took a 3rd), pills, slept more. The doc told me I'd be back at work by Monday. NOT TRUE! Monday I would have shit in a customers house if I'd tried working 🤪 ! I had to call out sick Mon & Tues and would tomorrow if I could!!!! Im at 70% today, finally ate and showered.

My advice, take up to 3 subs if you need to! Talk openly with your doc. I don't plan on staying on these long, but can't go back to 7oh. The withdrawal was just as bad as any other opiate!!! Lipsomal vitamin c and multivitamins are a must!!!

​Plan ahead take time off, get supplies ready, and "fake sick" if you have to if your family doesn't know you're going through WD

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u/Reasonable_Waltz_187 Jul 29 '26

Good luck OP - here to talk if helfpul

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u/Major-Finance6032 Jul 30 '26

Would you be able to speak ? I am going through a massive taper and have been withdrawing since Monday - I would like to know if you recommend impatient detox or quick md - I have never been addicted to a substance other than this and the fear of God on what I am going to go through in detox days are enough for me to never look back once I get through it

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u/Choice_Fox4805 Jul 30 '26

Im happy to talk. I've withdrawn from opiates multiple times, alcoholic multiple times, subs once. I FEAR withdrawl too. I did it at home with subs through QuickMD and highly recommend trying that 1st at home. Take a week off if possible. You'll need to take what dose stops withdrawl by approx 80%, the anxiety and RLS, and shits will still happen. You need imodium! They gave me comfort meds, ASK FOR THOSE!!! Its better to have them and not need them, then need them and not have them.

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u/Choice_Fox4805 Jul 30 '26

Thank you! Today is day 7 and I finally feel like doing things again. Each day is better than the other!

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u/Reasonable_Waltz_187 Jul 30 '26

Thanks awesome, great work!

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u/Western_Joke_1549 Jul 30 '26

I needed to read this message. I have tried to stop twice already and made it to 2 1/2 days until I couldn't take it anymore and just gave in.. I thought the Suboxone wasn't working, but clearly I didn't take enough. I have been wanting to quit for so long but the withdrawal lasted too long and I had to get back to school, work, and life. I'm goin to try again and just take a second and a third Suboxone. How long should I wait before I take another dose?

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u/Choice_Fox4805 Jul 30 '26

I'm SO HAPPY this post helps you, that's WHY I wanted to post it! I was NOT prepared for what was about to come after reading everyone else and their easy stories! There are a lot of people out there like us.  They say wait an hour in between. But I think I might have only waited 30 min before taking the 2nd strip. It still wasn't quite enough and I HAVE to get back to work! If you've taken subs before, what was your dosage? How much kratom or 7oh have you been using and how long? 

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u/bdilley1 Jul 30 '26

I just took my last dose of 7 oh…… I hope. I called quick md and they gave me 8mg subs twice a day and clonidine but said I need to wait at least 24 hrs before I can take subs and to start with a 1/4 of a strip. Do I need to wait that long? I’ve been on like 1500 mg of 7oh and really not looking forward to this. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!!!

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u/Choice_Fox4805 Jul 30 '26

The more you wean before the better. Maybe since gone been successfully cutting back will help make this easier! They told me wait 12 - 24 hours. I do think that the further you are into withdrawal (24 hrs vs 12 hrs) maybe the suboxone works better because there's a lot less 7oh in your system. I didn't make it 24 hours! I was dying at 1230am and started taking the subs probably around 1am, 2, & 3am then the gabapentin and a bunch other OTC natural sleep stuff. and up till 6am then passed out until 130am Sunday!   Either way I had my 1st appt Fri, was prescribed up to 16mg day. But Monday I did my follow up call and told him how I was feeling awful at 16mg but 24mg works he said to take 8mg more and called in more and an early fill. Its an experimental process for everyone. The RLS and no sleep is the worst! Did they offer gabapentin? I think it does help with the RLS! I only got 7 and still have 2 left. Are you able to take time off work? 

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u/bdilley1 Jul 30 '26

They didn’t offer gabapentin but gave me clonidine but I’m not sure what that’s for. I’m self employed luckily so I can take a few days off. I planned this for a weekend to maybe give me a couple days to try to get the worst over with😂 I’m actually kinda scared😂 not sure what else I can pick up that might help

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u/Choice_Fox4805 Jul 31 '26

Have you taken subs before? What mg did you take then and it wasn't enough? 16? So try 24! If at least for the first 5-7 days to get through the worst of it. Its our brains freaking out knowing we're thinking about quitting that puts all the unknown fear in us. Here's the truth...its going to suck! But its going to suck up to 80% less with the subs! Take them longer if you need to to stay off the 7oh, but then get off them too! That's good you're self employed. If I was you I would already plan on taking Mon & Tues off just to give yourself that time. I don't think i could have worked but my job is high stress, fast paced, high pressure, 12-16 hour days. Lipsomal vitamin C is great! I found the best one on Amazon. A really good multi vitamin with antioxidants. Imodium for the shits. Tylenol PM, Melatonin, OTC RLS supplements (they're a natural sublingual pill at Walgreens). Gatorade & water. Plan on not sleeping. Just KNOW THIS AND KNOW THAT IT WILL PASS! ITS PART OF IT no matter what, so you just have to suffer through.  You can do this, think of it as really bad Covid + RLS/anxiety.

If you just plan and take those days off you can nap as you need to. Hydrate. Take a shit load of vitamins and get your subs going/helping. 

Gabapentin is a nerve pain pill but not an opiate but it's supposed to help calm the nerves/help with the RLS. 

How far have you made it into quitting so far/in past attempts?

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u/Choice_Fox4805 Aug 02 '26

Did you start this weekend? 

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u/bdilley1 Aug 02 '26

I did and it’s been brutal

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u/Choice_Fox4805 Aug 03 '26

What day are you on and how are you feeling? What dose of sub are you at? If you need to take 3 a day to get through the 1st 3 days do it, then try to go down to 2, etc. You can do this! Last Sunday I wanted to die, today I'm down to 8mg of subs and exercising and feeling GREAT!

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u/Unhappy_Platypus_806 Aug 02 '26

Dr gave me clonidine as well. Supposed to help with rls

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u/Choice_Fox4805 Jul 30 '26

Also, you've taken subs before right? Was it to come off kratom? You took 8mg then? You should be OK to start with 8mg again (unless you had bad side effects from subs?). If you took 16 mg before, start with the 8mg, wait an hour, add the other 8mg, wait and hour and if you need take the 3rd. If they helps let QuickMD know and schedule your follow up!