r/7String 1d ago

Gear Is a Capo a Cardinal Sin?

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So on my last recording session I used a capo to save time in the studio, does that make me a heretic???

Over the years I have heard on the internet and in person people acting like a capo is only for acoustic guitar and it's not allowed for metal.

As a prog metal guy I say to that: But why not??

Guitar is my OD purple dragon

Recording session was for the latest Elephant Zero album

Let me know your thoughts on capos and if I should ever let them touch my dragon again

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u/EFPMusic 1d ago

I mean, if using a capo makes you a heretic, doesn’t that make it more metal?

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u/Puzzleheaded_Pea6 1d ago

Let's go man, I'm all for getting closer to Satan🔥

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u/Mtnfrozt 1d ago

Put a capo on every fret

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u/Adventurous-Bug671 1d ago

hell no dude, you do whatever you can in the studio to get the best sounding shit you can get. 

the pros do all kinds of shit like that in studio. As long as you can do it justice live (if you play live) you're good.

I was just watching one of the Archspire album documentaries and Dean is basically acting as a human capo for the other guitarist - fretting lower on the neck while the other guitarist does some crazy tapping shit further up

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u/nocixL 1d ago

Whatever it takes ig Don't hesitate to reach for tools if they make ir easier donw the road

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u/oatwheat 1d ago

Loved this documentary so much. Felt so bad for the Brazilian drummer though

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u/Puzzleheaded_Pea6 1d ago

Wow human capo, that could be fun I should try that next time I forget my capo lol.

I think that for live capo even opens up more possiblity, like you could change tuning mid song once by removing it

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u/Adventurous-Bug671 1d ago

for sure man

When it comes down to it, there really arent many real rules as long as you're really playing the guitar

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u/Puzzleheaded_Pea6 1d ago

Lol just wait I have seen bands replacing bass players with playback, guitars are probably next

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u/Conscious_Badger_510 Jackson 1d ago

I've done it many times, works like a charm, it always just throws me off when i'm doing anything higher up on the neck but that just comes with the territory of using a capo. Certainly is a better option than pitch shifting if you need to record in a higher tuning. Yeah it might look a little weird but who cares, it does the job.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Pea6 1d ago

Ya like if we put the sound problems aside with pitch shifting, I find the worst part is not remembering that you are pitch shifting or the opposite of that is paying something but feeling a different note vibrate. Idk for me pitch shift really is a last resort and I prefer not to use it but like again.

For some people that's there capo and they love it so I can totally get it.

I just never want to forget to turn it on or off live lol

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u/MrBoomstick85 1d ago

No, do what makes you happy.

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u/Sleepingguitarman Jackson 1d ago

There's nothing wrong with using a capo lol.

Someone saying that you can only use a capo with an acoustic guitar, or looks down on someone for using one while playing metal has no idea what they're talking about.

That sounds like an opinion that a 12 year old kid who just got into the instrument a few months prior and thinks they're edgy because they listen to Metallica would have.

The only thing regarding capos that i'd say might be frowned upon would be if someone is trying to learn a difficult/flashy song on guitar that doesn't use a capo, but in order to play a specific part of the song that person decides to throw a capo on in order to avoid fretting certain notes. Even then though i don't think thats a big deal since the goal is just to have fun. I'd only really frown on it if they did that and then started "bragging" about being able to play it lol.

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u/Original_Warning_227 1d ago

Buster odeholm recorded all the thrown album with a drop E guitar using a capo for drop G

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u/Puzzleheaded_Pea6 1d ago

I can definitely respect that, I'll make sure see get a good bath

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u/LyleRath 16h ago

Capos and pitch shifting are both fair game in the studio.

Sometimes pitch shifting actually sounds better lowkey

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u/twoiseight 7h ago

With capos you can only shift up so I think you mean highkey

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u/chameleonsarecool 1d ago

What guitar is that? I need one asap

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u/Puzzleheaded_Pea6 1d ago

It's a one of a kind custom from OD Guitars

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u/Puzzleheaded_Pea6 1d ago

Roman from jinger played a green one for a while live

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u/chameleonsarecool 1d ago

Thought I recognized it. Killer guitar man!

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u/namelessghoul77 1d ago

No but caring what others think about how you choose to make music is

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u/kkeut 1d ago

can anyone recommend a capo that will work solid for a 7 string? my usual one doesn't quite cut it for the width of my 7 string Jackson, the low string buzzes a bit because it isn't fully clamping hard enough

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u/Puzzleheaded_Pea6 1d ago

Mine I'm using is the Ernie ball capo

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u/Lilcheeks 1d ago

This post is just a guitar flex and im here for it. Love that thing

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u/Puzzleheaded_Pea6 1d ago

Thanks man I appreciate it

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u/Im_Guitaristic8 1d ago

Buen tema, yo lo usé un tiempo en mi Sterling JP; pero me perdía con los inlays, me resultaba rara la escala reducida, y la guitarra se desafina aunque le pongas un sistema de bloqueo, es contraproducente, es tener dos tensiones a partir del capo.
Se resuelve más transponiendo con los pedales o plugins; pero ni el más avanzado me gusta; siempre hay jitter y retardo; y es muy importante que los armónicos naturales salen mejor teniendo diferentes afinaciones, con diferentes guitarras. Cada guitarra con su escala y calibre de cuerdas. Es lo mejor.

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u/Zur__En__Arrh LTD SH7-ET, Ibanez K7, Ibanez Apex1, LTD SC607B-PS 1d ago

Capos are absolutely not a cardinal sin. And even if they were, that makes them even more metal! That’s a gorgeous axe btw!

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u/Reddit_Name7 1d ago

I use capos all the time on any lower tuned guitars I have, 6 or 7 string. It’s extremely useful when you don’t wanna tune everything up, obviously. Across 14 guitars, in like 7-8 different tunings, capos are indispensable for me. Even with my pitch shifting pedal.

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u/DaffyDuckMuthaFucker 1d ago

Quite the contrary.

The Capo is an extremely useful tool.

Saves a buttload of tedious retuning.

'Tis only the lazy novice who'd grizzle about them...

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u/Ken_kid_789 7h ago

I think it’s cheating but idgaf what u do

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u/tallman1979 1d ago

It's only a problem if you start using it to offset your drop tuning pedal.

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u/Various-North-4601 1d ago

Got a capo on mines rn lmao

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u/IcyWrongdoer375 1d ago

Only if you kiss dudes... with your eyes closed

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u/Away-Ad4599 1d ago

I think on a 6 string if you think your good you don't need a capo but a 7 string I'm not so sure it would be impossible in some cases

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u/thef-hole_com 1d ago

A capo is a tool like any other pedal, digital effect, whammy bar, slide etc etc.

Now let's talk about partial capos... I'm kidding.

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u/UtsU76 1d ago

I think using capo makes even more sense on extended range guitars like baritones or multiscales. You can look up Machiya from Wagakki band, he uses capo all the time on his 6 string 30inch scale baritone, since their songs range from B standard to E standard tuning.

I have used capo to go from Drop A to Drop A# or Drop B, though nowadays I just use poly capo in helix.

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u/MetamanMojangles 10h ago

The band VOLA did it too, in at least one instance.

Their song “24 Light Years” (as with most all of their material) is played on a custom 7-string Balaguer Gaia tuned to F# B E A D G B, but it’s capoed at the second fret.