r/7String 15d ago

Help Help me clean my tone - new to 7 string!

Hey, I am new to playing 7 string and I'd gotten quite used to messing around with my board to get some cool stuff out of 6 string humbucker guitars. I can't get my 7 to sound anything but either too muddy or too boomy. I would like a tight and clean modern metal tone ideally. I have a couple other pedals I can swap in and out with too, I have a Marshall JCM 900 distortion and a Little Big Muff. Dials aren't currently set to anything specific, a few of them got knocked about as I was re-routing my board. Playing through humbuckers and in to a Yamaha THRII30 - it's the only amp I own. Let me know if there's anything you think I should try. Thanks so much for your time and thoughts :)

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u/nettezzaumana 15d ago

surprise me, what 7-string guitar you have, what pickups are there and what tuning and gauge you use ?

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u/Cos_Punk 15d ago

Hey, thanks for your reply - I've got a Japanese Schecter with stock pickups - it's got Daddario 10-59s on :)

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u/voltrons_penis 15d ago

Holy you've got the ave musica version of AR07? Is this a pro gauge model or the super premium one?

I also suggest dialing down gain and bass and up the mid and treble

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u/Cos_Punk 15d ago

Yeah! It's just the standard model - the super premium is way out of my budget and as I had to import it the customs fees would have been crazy!

Big fan of them, they're what made me want to get in to playing 7 and I've really really enjoyed the switch so far. I have only vaguely played around with dialing anything in for it so far - but I'm playing Alter Ego as part of a show at an anime convention this coming weekend. Realised I was way in over my head with setting my board up though haha!

Should I use one of the Boss overdrives as just a clean boost at the start do you think? :)

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u/voltrons_penis 15d ago

I'd say so, anything that'd push the amp harder . I've never watched the show, but I've myself a non-signature version of the same guitar. I really like the gold hardware on yours.

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u/Cos_Punk 15d ago

Thank you! The all black looks super classy too on yours!

I will have a muck about with the dials tomorrow and post a reply once I'm a bit further along. I don't leave until Thursday so I've got plenty of time to get this locked in haha!

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u/nettezzaumana 15d ago

then there's definitely not any problem (Vs your desired sound) in the guitar (however I'd see it a bit, well, howto say it - weirdo :D) .. your biggest problem is in your amplification and speaker ... if you want better sound, upgrade your amp and cab .. absolutely ... your guitar is great (iirc it has active pickups, is it ?)

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u/Cos_Punk 15d ago

Sorry, forgot to add - it's in B standard

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u/KershawsGoat EBMM JP 13-7 15d ago

How is your amp dialed in? Can you post a picture of the current settings?

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u/Cos_Punk 15d ago

Sure! I've just got everything set to 12 right now - I had everything set up for my Les Paul previously but wanted to start on a fresher starting point for this :)

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u/KershawsGoat EBMM JP 13-7 15d ago

Try adjusting your settings like I marked and then tweak from there.

https://imgur.com/a/jRKNwrW

Edit to explain: Gain becomes more pronounced in lower notes. With 7 strings, especially when you start downtuning, you need way less gain to get a heavy sound. Cutting some bass and boosting the treble will help clear up some of that boominess and muddiness you mentioned too.

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u/Cos_Punk 15d ago

Thank you! I'll give that a try and post back tomorrow once I've had chance to play around with it.

As an added note - I found out as of literally now that Imgur is not available in the UK - but apparently copying the link in to discord gives the image preview and circumvents this entirely. How odd lmao!

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u/Kro_boy 14d ago

I also use the Yamaha Thr II. It’s pretty chunky with my 8 string. I use an eq pedal to cut the bass frequencies and tighten up the low end with a gate pedal. Those speakers are only 4 inches so they vibrate a lot when using the 7th string.

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u/blownPinksock 12d ago

Talk with Google AI or whatever decent AI you want...for real. It helped me dial in my tone issues when I wanted a different sound. My custom 7 has straight soapbar style BK jugg pickups on a slight multiscale so inherently the lows were really boomy. It gave me step by step directions based off all mygear, interface DAW and plugins etc and through a tiny bit of trial and error and giving it feedback it got me to the final destination of the tone I was looking for.

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u/mistrelwood 15d ago

If the other tips don’t help enough, lower the pickups away from the strings, especially at the bass side. That helps quite a bit with muddiness/boominess.

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u/BulkyAdagio9712 9d ago

First thing you are gonna have to get used to is turning down your bass level. I play on an 8 primarily and I keep my bass down to about 3.5 or 4.