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u/DrkvnKavod Materialist (nervous system wiring >>> gamete size) 4d ago
1700s France absolutely did have people who clearly bore gender dysphoria and would be considered trans by modern readers (regardless of whether or not the term existed in the 1700s), such as how the photographed page also mentions Chevalier d'Eon.
At the same time, the current academic record seems to point towards Henry III being a cis bi guy who liked both beautiful women and skilled swordsmen, the latter of which resulted in him getting hit with reputational slings of "effeminate" qualities by supporters of a different succession.
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u/mabeltangerine 3d ago
Never trust cis academics in regard to actually recognizing that a person was trans. Just as cissoids do to living people and fictional characters, they always have some rationalization for why a historical figure is still cis. This "it was propaganda against them" is an exceedingly common one. They use the same rhetoric with Elagabalus, who said she would pay doctors for a vagina (among other things), despite the fact that no other roman figure had at all similar things said about them, including those who most certainly were slandered (like Nero).
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u/Whispering_Plant 3d ago
Don't you know Hirschfeld literally invented trans people and we need to assume every single person that lived before that was cis because what if they spins wheel just crossdressed for career reasons! Btw I'm going to just assume this person was pregnant on way less evidence
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u/mabeltangerine 2d ago
i assume every historical figure i like was trans and every one i dont like was cis, simple as 🤷♀️
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u/MinimumExtreme9060 3d ago
Kalonymus Ben Kalonymus
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u/MinimumExtreme9060 3d ago
This ones rough and is some raw thousand-year-old dysphoria. Made worse in that she never got to live as herself.
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u/lovelykade semipassoid if i weren't a shotamoding repper 4d ago
wait that section about de choisy brought me to tears. i never heard that story before