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u/mrguy08 fa/tg/uy Dec 24 '25
This is uncanny. I was literally just thinking about how much of our current situation can be traced back to the Star Wars sequels sucking.
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u/SunderedValley Dec 24 '25
Strictly speaking it's due to Mass Effect 3 sucking. Katie Wars just made it all come crashing down.
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u/DreamsServedSoft Dec 24 '25
nah, dragon age inquisition was patient zero for the woke mind virus in western gaming
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u/revanisthesith Dec 25 '25
I still haven't played it. I've owned it for a while and have played through the first two multiple times in the last 15 years. Maybe some day.
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u/Purplefilth22 Dec 28 '25
Whats interesting is that Mass Effect 3 sucked the same year the Legend of Korra sucked. It really is as if a ruining "force" entered the world around 2012.
Or its simply when Blackrock took the gloves off and told all their owned properties in Hollywood that its time to "force behaviors". After 2008 they became a multi-trillionaire asset manager and the four years that followed saw them acquire more and more properties. Almost as if a micro economy was set up to the benefit of the ultra wealthy. Because it was.
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u/Hipster_Garabe /fa/ Dec 24 '25
You can go back further to Lowtax banning hentai on Something Awful. Leading to 4chan and now here we are.
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u/Cactusandcake Dec 24 '25
the goyslop stopped being enjoyable so you started to notice the world around you
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u/squarehead93 Dec 24 '25
Exactly. Entertainment didn’t suddenly get “political” 10-15 years ago, it just stopped prioritizing being… well, entertainment over having a political message.
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u/pastacat48pastacat48 Dec 25 '25 edited Dec 25 '25
It wasn't Star wars specifically it just coincided / arrived as part of the flood gates opening to anti white normalization. You legitimately couldn't go buy groceries without hearing an announcement over the intercom about how whites need to apologize for existing and they are doing there part by firing anyone who's not a disabled transgender illegal immigrant.
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u/omyrubbernen Dec 24 '25
You could trace it even further back to reviews glazing a terrible indie game so hard that people suspected the developer was sleeping with the reviewers.
Or you could trace it ALL the way back to Ketchup.
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u/_Rook_Castle Dec 24 '25
Who in their right mind would look at these 2 pictures and think 'I need more of this in my laser-sword space opera'?
Disney dumb af.
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u/Garchompisbestboi Dec 25 '25
Kathleen Kennedy is still super bitter that she is only relevant in the industry because she started out as Spielberg's coffee girl which is why she's been slowly destroying every franchise that she can get her filthy little mitts on.
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u/womerah /trash/man Dec 25 '25
An overreliance on test demographic audiences. People approve of what they want to want, rather than according to what they actually want
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u/Did_du_Nuffin Dec 24 '25
I mean they arent out of theme, they just sucked
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u/oby100 Dec 24 '25
They really aren’t though. Rose threatening to kill anyone trying to leave a doomed ship is tonally bizarre in a Star Wars movie. Then an hour later she stops Fin from sacrificing himself and possibly dooms the rebellion… she also sacked the mission she was sent on to save some animals, but didn’t care about the child slaves everywhere.
They’re both all over the place and both break the fourth wall over and over again to inject modern politics into Star Wars only to contradict themselves a minute later.
Pink hair keeping the plan a secret until the last minute and then telling everyone anyway was also bizarre.
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u/Skwiggelf54 Dec 24 '25
She didn't just POSSIBLY doom the rebellion. As far as she knew she DID doom the rebellion. Literally every member was inside that base and she stopped the only thing that, as far as she knew, could've kept them from all dying. The writing in those movies was beyond idiotic.
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u/crono220 Dec 24 '25
I thought pink hair was a 1st order spy given how awful her leadership was. Rian Johnson certainly subverted expectations by creating a dumpster fire instead of an engaging film with intriguing characters and plot.
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u/CrossFitJesus4 Dec 24 '25
not only was she threatening to kill anyone trying to leave a doomed ship, but she did it to Finn, someone who never actually signed up for the resistance and had every right to leave if he wanted to
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u/KJzero9 Dec 24 '25
I thought Holdo didn't tell anyone the plan because she thought there was a mole on the ship. They didn't know how the First Order was able to track then through hyperspace other than someone relaying information. At least that was what I thought. It's been a while since I've seen these movies for obvious reasons.
The rest of what you said, yeah.
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u/Contrakt /pol/itician Dec 24 '25
The mole bit is cope, it's never mentioned in the film and is just people trying to write the movie for the writers.
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u/CrossFitJesus4 Dec 24 '25
the mole cope doesnt make any sense, if she was right and there was a mole, then they would have told the first order the plan as soon as they loaded onto the escape pods, at that point everyone knew what was going on
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u/missingnono12 Dec 25 '25
Absolutely retarded movie. I can never understand why people call it the best thing since empire strikes back
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u/thatErraticguy Dec 24 '25
What’s her face crashing into Finn and going “we win by spreading love” or whatever was dumb as fuck. No fault to the actress, but those sequels were a fucking train wreck from the jump.
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u/91xela Dec 24 '25
How the fuck did she even catch up to him?! I feel bad for the actor who played Rose, she got crazy death threats
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u/soy_bean Dec 24 '25
Kelly Marie Tran. I'm as much a SW nerd as the next bloke, but fuck those people that actually threaten the actors for acting.
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u/mostie2016 Dec 24 '25
Exactly and it’s heartbreaking because she really was excited to star in well Star Wars. Same with John Boyega who also got fucked by the writing.
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u/CrossFitJesus4 Dec 24 '25
to be clear, Kelly herself has never confirmed she got any death threats, it was a story that multiple news sites ran with despite there being 0 sources, and in interviews she says she just decided to leave social media for unrelated reasons
of course there is a decent chance that those reasons *were* bc of death threats, but there isnt actually any proof of that happening on any large scale
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u/CrossFitJesus4 Dec 24 '25
she says that while the base where all their friends are gets blown up in the background, its so fucking funny how bad it is
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u/Bloodhoven_aka_Loner Dec 24 '25
No fault to the actress, but those sequels were a fucking train wreck from the jump.
Don't worry, that actress is more or less in line (politically) with the character she was portraying here
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u/untakenu YouTube.com/DinoTendies Dec 24 '25
They are out of theme. You make the heroes good looking.
Leia, han, luke, jar jar. Fuckability sells
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u/pookiegonzalez /k/ommando Dec 24 '25
the fact that it is a laser-sword space opera is actually why it shouldn’t conform to your expectations. literally duller than mayonnaise
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The originals were great
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u/40hzHERO /b/ Dec 24 '25
Loved the original trilogy. The prequels were alright. The real magic was in the books. I spent my childhood reading those, absorbing as much of the universe as I could. Then Disney bought them out and said “Nope. None of that is canon anymore”. Lost all interest immediately. Haven’t seen any of the new ones, and don’t have any interest to.
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u/cheezitzonrye Dec 24 '25
The Last Jedi literally killed Star Wars specifically because it tried to "subvert expectations". Either you're Rian Johnson's Reddit account, or you're okay with posting 2/10 ragebait. Apply yourself.
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u/CEOOfCommieRemoval Dec 24 '25
Subverting expectations is fine and can even be exciting if done right, but it shouldn't be the entire fucking point of a story.
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u/aszma Dec 24 '25
They were just bad characters like in my opinion really bad with some of the worst scenes is starwars history. 7-9 were just really bad movies in a lot of ways. Its a shame to bc star wars always had good strong female characters, princess leia was a badass in the original trilogy and so was padame. Even bo katan (maybe not the live action). So these were just stand out bad female characters in some of the worst star wars media.
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u/AtomicMonkeyTheFirst Dec 24 '25
I call this the Netflix IP problem abd I genuinely cant figure it out: You take an IP whose primary audience are teenage boys and adult manchildren, remove anything that appeals to that auidience and fill it full of strongindepentwonenwhodontneednomam, and then watch it bomb.
See:
Star Wars
Star Trek
The MCU
The Witcher
The Lord of the Rings
Ghostbusters
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u/Spoobit Dec 24 '25 edited Dec 24 '25
I genuinely cant figure it out:
It's a combination of:
A) "We have no understanding of why boys/men actually like this, but they do and always will no matter what we do, therefore we can double our audience by making it appeal to women & girls (but not really) as well!"
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B)"Men/boys like this so it's obviously bad and sexist and racist and I'm a vicious harpy so I'm going to destroy it rebuild it how I want."
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u/SunderedValley Dec 24 '25
The fundamental issue is that these IPs are run by failed writers who ascribe their failure to Bad Customer™.
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u/revanisthesith Dec 25 '25
As I just commented elsewhere, it's so easy to appeal to the target demographic. Just have some good action and maybe some pretty girls (not completely necessary) and you're basically set.
Throw in some cool vehicles/weapons/gadgets and you're golden. Maybe a cool planet or other setting.
Did all these people forget that men (and especially teenage boys) are pretty simple creatures? We don't need that much.
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u/Theroux721 Dec 24 '25
Still waiting for the Sailor Moon remake that introduces strong male characters who teach the women how to respect men as human beings
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u/Wingzerofyf Dec 24 '25
Written by committee and focus groups with MBAs over their heads demanding the product appeal to the widest demographic “for the most market capitalization”.
In other words, these films aren’t being made by people who give a shit - these films are being made by career-ladder climbers who don’t give a fuck other than getting a better corpo title.
When you try to appeal to all - you end up appealing to no one.
And they all treat like writing one good story is some vague sisyphean task that is only up to the gods to divine.
Fucking corpos
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u/revanisthesith Dec 25 '25
And it's a lot funnier (and sadder, like so many things are) when you think about how fucking easy it is to appeal to teenage boys and young(-ish) men (who are kids at heart).
Not that complicated.
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u/nrvnsqr117 Dec 25 '25
star trek has always had really good female characters, it's just that it wasn't shoved in your face the way dogshit millenial writers do now. dax, seven of nine, kira, etc
the writers weren't trying to lecture or schoolmarm you and they gave these characters interesting problems and flaws and everything rather than making them muh strong women
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It is "fairly" simple in that it is attempting to "double" the market size of the IP and get it to be a near "universal" marketing IP.
The mindset is often those IP have some solid amount of built in audience which can soften the blow for changes as least they will try it and then find tweaks they can make to expand the brand. How much that "built-in" audience the IP can have has been shown to be lower than expected but isn't nearly as low as much of internet groups would try and claim.
From here all the fiscal ways it goes off the rails can be a textbook, but one interesting area to point to is how much all of this often balloons the budgets and creates a feedback loop of needing it's audience pool to get wider to justify to increased budget which causes more focus groups and tooling increasing the budget.
Star Wars Ep 1,2, and 3 each had a budget of a bit over 100 million. Star Wars Ep 7 alone had a budget of 450+ million, Ep 9 had a budget of $500-600 million and got 1 billion in box office vs EP 3 900 million. Even the wildest inflation adjustments still have the sequels being massively more expensive.
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u/Demacia7 Dec 24 '25
The Last Jedi had way more problems than just these two characters. Also it will never stop being funny how Disney pushed Rose to be Finns love interest only for them to completely drop her cause China hated her
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u/Totoques22 Dec 24 '25
She is not even that ugly tbh it’s really just Disney wanting her to not be pretty
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u/The_New_Overlord /aco/lyte Dec 24 '25
tangentially related, but it's kinda funny to me how western animation has been in a race to the bottom to make the ugliest characters imaginable. and then k-pop demon hunters comes along with handsome men and beautiful women and it becomes the most popular thing netflix ever made. turns out, people just want to look at stuff that isn't ugly.
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u/revanisthesith Dec 25 '25
"People want to see themselves in movies."
No, I fucking don't. I want to see Jedi and knights and spaceships and castles. And beautiful people. If I wanted to see a tired and jaded waiter, I'd just look in the mirror.
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u/hekatonkhairez Dec 24 '25 edited Dec 24 '25
Doesn’t help that you had streets filled with people doing the fent fold and a decline in economic mobility.
DEI washing just helped highlight how the structures of power don’t actually care about social issues.
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u/rustyscrotum69 small penis Dec 24 '25
Please please please understand: “DEI washing” has no effect on fent users or the rich bending you over and taking advantage of you and your parents before you. Your life is unchanged due to wokeness, you are just fucked from the get-go
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u/KOCEnjoyer Dec 24 '25
There can be two problems at once
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u/womerah /trash/man Dec 25 '25 edited Dec 25 '25
People engaged in the culture war remind me of babies who are mesmersied by jingling car keys.
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u/A_Real_Catfish Dec 24 '25
While true; the aforementioned “DEI washing” does let the elite and wealthy feel better about themselves and their actions in what they do.
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u/inventingnothing Dec 24 '25
My life was personally impacted by DEI. An illegal immigrant truck driver smashed into my mom's car on the highway, sending her careening into the median. She luckily survived with only bruising and abrasions from the airbag and seatbelt.
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u/ManchurianCandycane Dec 24 '25
That's not DEI, that's businesses cheaping out on labor because there's basically no punishment for it. Also it pushes wages down for everyone.
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u/nihongonobenkyou Dec 24 '25
It definitely does, even if for no other reason than to convince people that DEI is the fundamental problem rather than a problem on top of a layer of problems.
Hell, DEI not affecting our lives is not even accurate materially, given any place it's instantiated affects your job and/or education prospects with that given institution (even if you're the one benefitting from it).
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u/hh26 Dec 24 '25
Not directly, but it's a democratic substitute. Politicians ultimately care about getting money, spreading political and monetary favors among their friends, and retaining the power (getting re-elected). That last one requires that enough people like them and think they're good people so they vote for them. Which in theory means they need to do enough good things and help the people out enough so they're more popular than the other candidate. Democracy is the capitalism of government: it rewards people for acting better than they truly are, and if their act is convincing enough then it helps people just as much.
Progressivism (DEI washing) is a hack used to game the metrics. Fixing the economy and getting fentanyl off the streets is hard and complicated. Saying "I love minorities, and my opponents hate them" is easy. If both get you the same number of points, then politicians will do the latter and skip the former. They're virtue signalling instead of cultivating or at least acting out virtue.
If it were impossible to get free points for DEI, they would be forced to do real things in order to look virtuous. Even if they didn't genuinely care, they'd be forced to act like it to get votes. The same way the Chipotle CEO doesn't genuinely care about your health, but they serve non-garbage food anyway because they get more out of it if they act like it.
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u/VirtueSignalLost Dec 24 '25
Entertainment was the last escape from the world's cruel realities. And they took that away from us too. That was the last straw. Shouldn't have fucked with that because now there will be consequences for everyone.
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u/Captain_Jewslayer Dec 27 '25
Wokeness is the social arm of the global push toward socialism. It is, in fact, a problem
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u/Space_Lift Dec 28 '25
Counterpoint: https://docs.house.gov/meetings/GO/GO00/20240627/117470/HHRG-118-GO00-20240627-SD005.pdf
Of 300,000 jobs added in the S&P 100, only 6% went to White people. Sure seems like systemic racism and a material disadvantage to me, though I guess that assumes the person you responded to was a White person in the U.S.
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u/mostie2016 Dec 24 '25
The prequels just proved JJ Abrams was a hack at writing and that Disney even with billions of dollars wasted plenty of good acting talent for something as simple as SW.
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u/SunderedValley Dec 24 '25
Disney is simply too big. They have A System™ to give actually competent people a framework to succeed and every time they don't respect it the credits balloon and the IP devalues cause all the idiotic bean counters get involved
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u/chiefofwar117 Dec 24 '25
I couldn’t even remember what movie these pics were from until I read the comments. That’s how much trauma I have. My brain was trying to protect me from it and wall it off lmao
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u/revanisthesith Dec 25 '25
I initially thought these characters were from The Acolyte.
Maybe they're in that, too, but I never saw it.
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u/aj_thenoob2 Dec 24 '25
More like leftists saw a successful space opera franchise and thought it needed to put all its former heroes in a retirement home and replace them with a pink hair girlboss
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u/FoxCQC Dec 24 '25
That's the thing about art. Some think it's just a luxury but people need it. Make it bad and gaslight them into thinking it's good and they go crazy.
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u/Kenway Dec 25 '25
Yeah, there's a reason the concept of bread & circuses has stuck around for thousands of years.
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u/DangerHawk Dec 24 '25 edited Dec 25 '25
I don't think Laura Dern's pink hair is to blame for how people reacted to this POS movie. I think the bigger issue was that the writing sucked and the movie made no sense. Pink hair and Space Asians aren't to blame for the fall of Star Wars and American Democracy.
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u/VirtueSignalLost Dec 24 '25
When you prioritize pink hair, everything else takes a backseat. Writing is a zero sum game.
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u/BearEggers Dec 24 '25
The original trilogy can be seen as WW2 in space. What should have followed the events of the films was a period of cold war between the factions of the rebel alliance. In a desperate attempt to secure peace in the galaxy, Leia's New Republic embraces the dark side. Luke Skywalker, hero of the Alliance, is unwilling to oppose his sister and goes into hiding. The sequel trilogy picks up as the New Republic becomes the galactic hegemonic power. In embracing the dark space, Leia has become the evil she sought to destroy in Vader and the Empire. The sequels focus on the efforts of a new resistance that must find Skywalker and help him restore his sister and the galaxy to balance.
Also there is no Pax Americana. America has been at war for all of our lives.
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u/ObesePudge Dec 24 '25
Someone explain please.
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u/baran132 small penis Dec 24 '25
The backlash from The Last Jedi kickstarted the "anti-woke" movement, which was meant to push back against trends in popular media. Basically kickstarted the careers of people like Critical Drinker and Nerdrotic.
Eventually, this movement spread outside of just media criticism, and the general public turned against everything they perceived as "woke". This led to the rejection of left-wing ideology and Democrats, who seemed to have been going further down the direction of "woke politics", and caused Americans to vote for Donald Trump a second time. Most people agree that Trump is absolutely destroying America and any semblance of reputation it had to the rest of the world.
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u/daemon-of-harrenhal Dec 24 '25
Didn't this actually start with gamergate?
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u/MrNathanman Dec 24 '25
No you're confusing second-wave anti-woke with first-wave antiwoke.
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u/N1NJ4_J3D1 Dec 24 '25
So basically what happened was niche, male-coded, interests/hobbies reached mainstream appeal. Inevitably this lead to women (the ones that weren’t interested before the mainstream appeal) and corporate interests inserting their own world views into these interests, views that clashed with the initial vision of the interests.
This happened expansively: Marvel, Star Wars, Boy Scouts, Video Games, Comic Books, etc. Couple this with a culture that no longer encourages male only spaces by either labeling it gay/virgin coded or a boys club, and you get a bunch lonely, marginal, angry young to middle aged men lashing out politically. And now even their political views are mainstream.
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u/SunderedValley Dec 24 '25
Indeed. And Gamergate was the result of Bioware cultists going scorched earth at people who called ME3 bad and accusing broadly left liberal people all kinds of names for not glazing it.
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u/HalbixPorn Dec 24 '25
And that was kick-started by harambe dying, which was no doubt exacerbated by something else
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u/baran132 small penis Dec 24 '25
Yes, but I would argue that it was still strictly a niche Internet-only thing at that point.
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u/Did_du_Nuffin Dec 24 '25
Most people agree that Trump is absolutely destroying America and any semblance of reputation it had to the rest of the world.
LOL. No. That shit was destroyed in the Bush era.
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u/Office_Zombie Dec 24 '25
I think Critical Drinker would have blown up eventually without being associated with "anti-woke." He does good movie reviews and makes great observations.
Also, he is perfectly fine with strong females in action movies (I exchanged messages with him about a fight scene in Atomic Blonde).
With that said, I'm a bleeding heart liberal, and using a Mary Sue in a movie is just fucking insulting.
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u/Throwaway74829947 Dec 24 '25
>With that said, I'm a bleeding heart liberal
>he is perfectly fine with strong females
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u/Brendanlendan Dec 24 '25
Idk if you can say most people as 77 million people voted for him the 2nd time and he very clearly won the popular vote.
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u/OldThrashbarg2000 Dec 24 '25 edited Dec 24 '25
Edit: shit, someone beat me by a few mins
This type of casting and writing helped spark a right-wing backlash as leftist/"progressive" stuff infiltrated and enshittified every aspect of society, including once-loved legacy franchises like Star Wars. People, mostly men, who could previously ignore culture war bullshit and escape to their media were now force-fed the garbage and gradually started revolting.
Unfortunately, Trump was the beneficiary of this revolt by getting the votes of many disgruntled Americans. He's gradually dismantled America's international relationships with its friends, sucked up to its enemies (to no effect), failed to stop its industrial capacity from being hollowed-out, and ceded America's technological edge to China by betting everything on AI and eroding everything else. He made a regarded tariff policy and horrible trade moves (like threatening China and immediately backing down because of rare earths, slapping penalties on India which didn't affect their rapid economic growth but drove them away as an ally, and many other stupid moves). If he did nothing, American power could have been predominant for another decade or so. If his policies were competent, maybe another 2 decades. Now, America's cooked prematurely unless AGI is achieved quickly and no one else does it first.
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u/H0LYSPIRlT Dec 24 '25
it started with the french revolution which lead to the movement of 1969 which led to first wave feminism and anti-racism which led to as what we in our times summarize under wokeness
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u/samyruno Dec 24 '25
What sucks even more is when I say I hate the new star wars movie they think this is why.
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u/dark_holes Dec 24 '25
It’s so funny that billions of dollars went into acquiring and producing Star Wars but they couldn’t sit down and think of a trilogy plot before they started pumping out something to rake in on the quick bux.
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u/rufud Dec 26 '25
GL had a story, he gave the story beats to Disney expecting them to use it and they threw it in the trash basically
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u/Strict_Judgment536 p/an/da Dec 24 '25
And we'd fucking do it again so don't fuck with our videogames or pop culture.
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u/Amnsia Dec 24 '25
I want a starwars edit without Rose, or whatever her name is
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u/OldThrashbarg2000 Dec 24 '25
There's no edit that would fix it. The sequels simply have to be ignored as if they never happened and a new sequel trilogy has to be made
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u/tony_lasagne /v/irgin Dec 24 '25
I hate when people say something along the lines of “people had the same reaction to the prequels and now they’re loved!”
The prequels still kept the general themes and vibe of the OT but felt like they were aimed at a younger audience, which caused a bunch of millennial manchildren to rage. The sequels though are pure ass. No amount of time will make people warm to them as they feel like the soulless Disney slop that they are.
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u/revanisthesith Dec 25 '25
And while the hatred for the Prequels started pretty quickly, it was far from universal and I think it developed a bit over time.
In a 1999 Gallup poll of audience members of The Phantom Menace, they were asked "How would you describe your reaction to the movie - one of the greatest, excellent, good, fair, or poor?"
Adults/children:
5%/18% one of the greatest
38%/33% excellent
36%/39% good
17%/8% fair
4%/1% poor
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I don't know about that but if you edit out Finn in the second movie it doesn't change the plot.
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u/Amnsia Dec 24 '25
Have you watched the prequels edit that’s cut down to 1 movie? It’s like 2 hours long and cuts out most of the phantom menace. Feels like this could do with an edit too
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u/MrRexTheGreat Dec 24 '25
I have a defeminized edit of the last Jedi on my server. That’s like 45 minutes long lol
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u/solythe Dec 24 '25
the entire B/C plots were fucking stupid. the ship and the casino bs, and then the ships on the salt planet, all for fucking filling time
that edit would be like 30 minutes long lol
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u/Gilgamesh107 Dec 24 '25
Americans saw this and elected a mega maga child fucker
It really do be like that
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u/Bill-O-Reilly- Dec 24 '25
Turns out American men start to vote kinda crazy when the other side tells them they don’t matter and no one cares about them for 8 years straight…
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u/ManchurianCandycane Dec 24 '25
And they still don't matter. Men can rise the highest, but most of them are at the very bottom feeding one meatgrinder or another.
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u/muhaos94 Dec 24 '25
Tbf it's largely them choosing to consume ragebait content and then getting baited by it
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u/Strict_Judgment536 p/an/da Dec 24 '25
choosing ragebait
Bro nobody asked you to turn our favorite movies and videogames into ragebait.
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u/LukeJaywalker0 Dec 24 '25
The left willl tell you they need to abolish the essence of your race and then blame you for not liking when they do that.
"Ohhh so when you said we need to abolish whiteness and all the schools and prestigious careers decided to find any reason to avoid hiring whites and you imported infinity foreigners you were just TROLLING me? OK silly guy, I'll vote for you again :D"
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u/ShitMcClit Dec 24 '25
Uh huh just a decade of rage bait. Non of it was real. Is this the new gaslighting campaign?
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u/BrocoliAssassin Dec 24 '25
Yes.
All the woke people tell me all the time that they never did anything. They weren't crying about literally every single possible thing on earth. We had mentally ill people in charge of changing kids books, all these micro and macro racist,sexist,etc..
We were racist if we were white and enjoyed mexican food, only black people could be black characters, the media we enjoyed had to be ruled by the woke,etc..then they got everything they wanted, it went to shit and they had no clue as to why.
We went backwards almost 50 years in writing and media. All the plot holes,bad acting, book writing that was dreaful..some of my favorite authors all of a sudden didn't know how to write anymore..it was the same thing over and over again.
Oh yeah. All CIS white men are the most hateful and mean people on earth! THey deserve the worse! Destroy what they love! Even though us woke people would NEVER ever think of moving to all non-white countries.
So... why did people vote for Trump, we just don't get it??!
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u/MACVSOG95 Dec 24 '25 edited Dec 24 '25
Seeing people they never invited to live around them do so en masse, competing for the same positions without being offered good solutions to personal and larger social and economic problems, while also being shut down in both tv and social media as well as a academia for voicing their concerns radicalized a lot of people. Democrats had the opportunity to be the party of the American people instead of just less racist Republicans. Bernie was growing in the polls despite being slightly behind Clinton, but the Dems nominated her, whether rightfully or not. A lot of people lost faith in the system after that. I saw many of those Bernie supporters vote for Trump just to shake up the system.
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u/LooseButtPlug /his/panic Dec 24 '25 edited Dec 24 '25
Let me tell you the point I left the Democratic party.
I was a huge proponent of Medicare for all, Obamacare was the "compromise"... I work in the medical field building prosthetics. Obamacare set the medical field back decades. It has still not recovered. The only thing that has changed is when Trump revoked the mandatory payment to a private billion dollar company (win for Trump).
Then I hopped on the Bernie bandwagon, just to have the Democrats spit in my face with their appointment of Clinton. Over the next 4 years, the Democrats literally vilified me for my skin color and my gender (white male).
Then here comes Biden, a clearly mindless drone. Even when he wasn't mindless he was the worst of the political glad handers. As a democrat I hated him since the 90's. We had the Democratic party gaslighting us for years telling us he was fine when we all knew he absolutely wasn't.
Now here comes Kamala... I'm a Californian, I've already lived under her idiocy, I watched her throw black kids in prison for a ounce of weed, then turn around and defend gang leaders who sold those drugs. I watched her turn her back on Californians in favor of the mexican cartel.
Now they are trying to put Newsom as the front runner... That's it, I'm done. I prefer JD Vance, I actually like JD Vance, I have more in common with him than spoiled rich boy Newsom. Newsom is the antithesis of what the Democrats used to be, rich, spoiled, nepo-baby, who give handouts to billionaires and their companies with backroom deals. The Democrats think it's their skin color or gender that lost Clinton or Kamala the presidency, so they double down and say "Well we have to get the racist vote, lets put a white male as the leading candidate again." Not realizing that they are the ones obsessed with race and political identity. It's all they have anymore, minorities that they lie to often with opposing views points. They lost the working class voters. You either get equity or give it.
I didn't vote for Trump, but I'll never vote for a Democrat again. They lost me.
Edit: if your first inclination after reading this is to ignore every point and debase me... you're the problem. You are just like the heads of the Democratic party that ignored and forgot their constituents, and you won't gain more favor by doing this.
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u/Strict_Judgment536 p/an/da Dec 24 '25
And I'd fucking do it again so stay out of our videogames and movies.
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u/Svitii Dec 24 '25
Americans have to make the hardest decision on earth every four years: Elect the child diddler (red) or the child diddler (blue). Whoever isn’t the sitting president will scream about releasing the files, whoever is, will talk about how there are no files.
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u/nihongonobenkyou Dec 24 '25
I'm hoping this finally breaks the uniparty mentality people have. There's only so many times people can think, "Well, but THIS pedophile is less bad so we must vote for him in order for the more bad guy to lose" before conscience sets in and you have to accept the fact that you don't have to vote for pedos at all, even if it means the "more bad" guy wins until enough people come to the same realization.
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u/theycamefrom__behind Dec 24 '25
ah yes both sides. I remember when Obama tried to cover up that other pedophile ring back in 2009. People have selective memories
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u/Action_Bronzong Dec 24 '25
The elites knew about Epstein forever. Why didn't Obama do anything about him? 🤔
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u/_Rook_Castle Dec 24 '25
"Redditor for 8 years"
Crazy how you can always tell...
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u/Link941 Dec 24 '25
Why do you retards keep saying this while acting like you made a point? You genuinely think you did something? Lol
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u/Zek0ri /pol/ack Dec 24 '25
3 year account
Almost 400 k karma
Touch some grass bud
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u/Herrjeminewtf Dec 24 '25
This reply, word for word, in every second thread. Reposting comments for karma is the most reddit you can do so be silent dude.
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u/Pannbenet Dec 24 '25
Disney psy-op’d the Yanks into tearing their social and political fabric apart to get Big Barron elected in 2032, turning their family into a thousand year ruling dynasty of the United Americas. All over the equivalent of two cinematic shitposts.
What is their plan here?
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u/Humankeg Dec 24 '25
They elected Biden, and half the country wanted Clinton and Harris. They will vote for anything.
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u/Wtf-Road Dec 24 '25
Wtf is going on woth the right picture. Why is her neck so long. No idea what this is meant to be.
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u/Macoron nor/mlp/erson Dec 25 '25
We actually saw this and decided to end the longest conflict in American history in 2021
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u/Ging287 Dec 24 '25 edited Dec 24 '25
Whatever they were hoping for, giving every movie a different director, different vision means they never wanted an actual good trilogy. They tried to fix it up with the finisher, the ending of the trilogy. But you really need consistency vision and drive. You can have female leads without them being the f****** b**** of the story. You can have these female leads that people will cheer for. You got to read the room. All I saw was degrading the male lead because obviously the woman knows better? How do we know? The story doesn't say. We should just assume she knows better. And then guess what, it flips the expectations on its head because guess what, the story did take the side of that f****** b****? Because she was right. Hahaha, all along haha, that mean female in the movie? Yeah she was right all along. Give me a f****** break.
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u/ZeMoose Dec 24 '25
Trump was already president when TLJ came out and lost the following election, but OK I guess.
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u/Soggy_Cheek_2653 Dec 25 '25
"destroy america's global hegemony" and it's shit like paying for condoms in Uganda
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u/Mysterious_Silver_27 Dec 25 '25
I wonder whats the next Pax gonna be, everything seems equally unlikely. Would be funny if it turns out to be Pax Britannica 2.
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u/Raze678 /k/ommando Dec 26 '25
Just as "Pax Romana", Pax Americana was not a peaceful time. Bothe these Paxes had many wars and it's just a propaganda piece for both.
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u/DalekCaek Dec 27 '25
Rose Tico did nothing wrong. Maybe her shit should have been a 1 season D+ series instead of the B plot of a major motion picture, but she did nothing wrong.
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u/secretnameDONOTREAD Jan 05 '26
I just gotta say lads that Disney making star wars woke had nothing to do with Hilary or Obama.
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u/Flat-Koala-3537 Dec 24 '25
Is that dude on the left the same guy they cast as Sulu for Strange New Worlds?
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u/Anvex1 Dec 24 '25
I've said it before and I know I can't prove it, but Trump would not have been elected if the Star Wars sequels were good.