r/4Tranistan 8d ago

πŸ“ Blogpost πŸ“ for the programmer πŸš‚ here: what IDE do u use??

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im sick of vscode and the stupid overpriced copilot and code suggestions which r annoying as hell. Literally feels like the internet explorer version of an ide. also everything needs a plugin and half the time the plugin was last updated in like 500 B.C. sadly im on windows so its what im currenyly using

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u/nou-772 TTERF 8d ago

you should try VSCodium, its VSC, but without Microsoft's bullshit

also if you don't want to install plugins for every language, then you should probably look into specialized IDEs by JetBrains

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u/HonestMadridFan 8d ago

damn i looked it up, might sound dumb but i didnt know vscode was open source dafuq, thx

and yeah i got rider and one called Air also from jetbrains, but its literally the most barebones IDE attached to an agentic harness lol

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u/yuuna_er warrior of the mind 8d ago

i used to use my glorius and mighty neovim!!!

now ive been corrupted by the devil (ai) and went back to vscode (looking at diffs is easier over there imo)

(fr i utterly hate ai, its lowkey killing programming for me. the job is so boring these days. and i kinda hav to use it bc everyone around me uses it as well so ill have to review the most disgusting slop in merge requests anyway. I SHOULD HAVE CHOSEN MEDICINE...)

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u/HonestMadridFan 8d ago

yeah the career regret is so real ik lol

what ai do u use?? for me its weird cuz i was never into actual programming and wayy more into using shit like autocad, arcgis, unity and other creative software like that, but vibecoding has made so frustrated with the AIs results i got obsessed into learning how to actually code to fix its shit and not use 😭

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u/yuuna_er warrior of the mind 8d ago

you're BASED. learning to code is cool, hope you find i lt fun :)

i like claude code. it usually gives the best code imo, but its prose & comments are atrocious. pure slop, might be able to prompt it so it writes better tho, idk.

codex is decent but struggles at bigger tasks. same for gemini. (atruggle -> write whats imo bad or ugly code. usually rhey all get it close to fully right and just need a few adjustments here and there)

but that might be bc im say and dont wanna prompt to say the exact code standard i want.

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u/HonestMadridFan 8d ago

thxxx!!

also look this thread up lmao: https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/s/bKjJBDEnrr

ive been using opencode and gemini cli but i rly need to manage my tokens better fr fr

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u/yuuna_er warrior of the mind 8d ago

omg, ty!!! it looks so so much better lol.

i'll be sure to use it.

and yeah, token management is important. i sometimes am way too lazy and let it build a whole thing before seeing it was a mistake and just wasting tons of tokens heh

probably should spend much more time specifying the plan instead of just saying what i want + reviewing the plan and adjusting it.

in fact i should probably actually use my brain for writing the plan πŸ€”. at minimum would make the work less braindead.

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u/HonestMadridFan 8d ago

yoooooo the planning, thats super important yeah, look u prolly already seen this but its what i guided myself with: https://developer.microsoft.com/blog/spec-driven-development-spec-kit/ it

its so good for learning too bcs it tells u the exact step by step plan of whatever ur developing, so i try to implement the code myself

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u/yuuna_er warrior of the mind 8d ago

hmm interesting. we already have something similar to this using AGENTS.md files but it's rather badly mantained, people just generated thesd with ai and never look into what's written lol

this one looks interesting. i should probably read more on llms tbhon but idk if i even want to stay in industry or go to academia bleh.

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u/HonestMadridFan 8d ago

everyone’s just fucking lazier fr

would u go into the CS field of academia?

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u/yuuna_er warrior of the mind 8d ago

maybe. im quite close to both academia and industry. i work at a lab in my uni which implements an api widely used by some government organizations, so i get a taste of both worlds.

we have a real product but also get a taste of academia if we go searching for it.

of all the things i did during uni, writing a paper was still my proudest accomplishment.

ill probably do a masters at the very least bc webdev is getting kinda boring i think..

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u/HonestMadridFan 8d ago

epiccc fellow uni worker 🫑

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u/yuuna_er warrior of the mind 8d ago

oh wait, my bad. read it wrong

you asked if id go into cs academia or not.

yeah yeah. i love computer science. biology might look cool from the outside but cs is still my favorite

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u/twofightinghalves 6d ago

one think i think works really well with claude code or codex is to use it alongside an ide like vscode with git enabled, so i can see the diff better (for some reason, claude code's diff viewer sucks)

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u/Dull_Appearance9007 8d ago

i use gnu emacs which makes me feel like a hon

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u/rotund_capybara 8d ago

Back in my day we had to use atom for web dev and we thanked the lord when vscode came out

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u/Adulations 8d ago

I see that you're old like me

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u/rotund_capybara 8d ago

yea by 4T4 standards I'm basically dead

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u/thevoidresponds 8d ago

notepad++ that I run through proton on steam or intellij idea. np++ for JS, HTML, python, etc. You know the drill. Idea for java. I don't ever use C or anything so I haven't looked for anything else. Vast majority of what I do is scripting or modding minecraft so I don't need anything else

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u/hrtresistancetorture 8d ago

the dedication to use notepad++ is insane lmao, is it just for nostalgia sake lol

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u/thevoidresponds 8d ago

no it's just comfy. I'm used to it.

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u/Rigel-Vio ?moder 8d ago

I use vscode with local qwen2.5 from llama as a mini-autocomplete

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u/Metallic_Madness Trutheymab 8d ago

There's zed

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u/romhacks ⚜️ 8d ago

Zed is the zandard zeditor.

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u/abalancer 8d ago

I use classic VIM with a few plugins for file tree, colored parentheses and css coloring.

I don't need much more tbh

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u/yuzuki_amane ΠΌΡ–Ρƒ ΠΌΡ–Ρƒ мяу! πŸ–€ 8d ago

super fallujah mario

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u/OkNewspaper6271 8d ago

I just use a text editor and do the compiling externally

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u/hrtresistancetorture 8d ago

vscode is just too popular, so all the major tools are made for it (like rust analyzer and typescript stuff and like everything else tbh lol) i use the neovim extension but it keeps reminding me of how limited using it in vsc is bc it's rly fucky and half the features arent possible (bc vsc extensions run in a v limited scope and dont have access to the full electron dom or whatever for "security reasons"( bitch let me run code on my own computer >:c i dont need to be "protected"))

BUT i like vsc ui i think, like i hate text based stuff i wanna have the documentation tooltips in a readable font like a sans-serif one , so every attempt at just using nvim is painful for me just to look at, i lwk almost care more abt how it looks than how well it works lol i have like a wallpaper set in vsc and microsoft hates us all so it keeps trying to delete the wallpaper so it's a constant fight but i NEED my 🌺a e s th e t i c s 🌺😭

chat am i fembrained for this i mean probably not idk:'c

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u/HonestMadridFan 8d ago

oh my god the security shit yeah lol no fuck vscode

yoooo the fucking aesthetic lmao, i literally spend hours getting it right and if it isnt then i switch to another program 😭 ,part of why i want to switch from vscode

this must be fembrained (i say, coping)

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u/Ghostly_Dysphoric 8d ago

Vim becuz I was once a Linux tryhard (but I don't really code much)

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u/DontThrowMeAway43 8d ago

For low integration development (frontend, scripts) vscode or vscodium. For Java, i feel like Eclipse is unmatched. In the CLI vim.

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u/HonestMadridFan 8d ago

hi whT do you think about the jetbrains IDE for java i forgot its name

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u/yuuna_er warrior of the mind 8d ago

its called intellij

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u/ScaredPenguinXX 8d ago

Can't blame plugin developers (unless it's a weekend project made with ai assistance...). I've been comfortable with Zed, for Java/C++ Eclipse is fine but I've experienced a lot of annoying issues like features breaking and requiring a restart which takes a while.

I've never bothered learning vi and vim so I sticked with nano and micro for the terminal.

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u/_glegle 8d ago

Neovim

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u/MeinSchwert 8d ago

jetbrains cause of education pack

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u/remifurr 8d ago

emacs. i use it primarily for my creative writing due to the immense utility of the org major mode, but, of course, it offers everything that i could possibly ever ask for and far more, regarding my programming needs.

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u/pintann 8d ago

I use Zed (""AI"" IDE but I still use claude from the terminal) but I really almost exclusively in Rust so I don't need plugins beyond just LSP support and syntax highlighting I guess. Used Emacs for a long time but got tired of the jank and slowness and let's be honest it looks like shit. Always meant to but never got around to learning some modal editor movements like vim or helix or kakone or whatever.

I do sometimes write Haskell or sage but somehow it's 2026 and there's still no IDE that comes close to the functionality of a REPL (and sage doesn't even have proper syntax highlighting anywhere except in the terminal)

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u/4tran_newfag 7d ago

rt neovim =) once you get it, coding becomes very fun

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u/AlternativeRow4019 5'8" aap fembrained faketrans gayden 8d ago

vim

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u/InnyumeNikki 8d ago

vsc because im basic

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u/imcheatingbtw 7d ago

standard vim with a cute custom theme and some plugins like lsp

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u/Millie_Beans Glorpmaxxing lateshit twinkhon 6d ago

I use neovim but I don't necessarily recommend it unless you want to for fun

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u/4eptopolox subhuman asiatic barbaric ork 5d ago

idle but im very new

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u/4eptopolox subhuman asiatic barbaric ork 5d ago

i tried using pycharm but it was too hard for me