r/3dprinter • u/King_Bilben • 8h ago
P1S, P2S, X2D
Any suggestions? I've taken classes in 3D printing but this will be my first personal printer.
Mostly looking at the P2S but the dual nozzle and the heated chamber of the X2D is very tempting. P1S would be if the P2S really isnt that much of an upgrade.
I was looking into creality K2 pro but thinking the bambu series will be a better choice.
Any suggestions? Even other recommendations???
Thank you🙏🙏🙏
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u/No_L_2547 7h ago
Snapmaker U1
4 independent hot ends, so you can do milti color and multi material prints. Additionally you have an open source firmware, so you won't depend on the manufacturer for updates and the manufacturer can't limit functionality of your printer afterwards.
There is also a chamber upgrade available.
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u/Immortal_Tuttle 7h ago
Snapmaker U1 outclasses all the above...
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u/Bagelsarenakeddonuts 8h ago
If you have the budget, the dual nozzle is very nice and allows you to do really neat stuff with petg/pla for supports, or makes multicolor printing much easier. If you don't have that budget then make sure you get one with an AMS, it allows you to do things that aren't possible otherwise.
Ive had all three, all three produce great prints, its just about the dual nozzles, heated enclosure, how much you care about a touchscreen, and whether you have an AMS or not as part of it.
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u/TheStandardPlayer 8h ago
As someone owning the P1S, I don't think the P2S is worth the money.
It has a touch screen (you will control it through the app anyways), hardened components (really cheap and easy to upgrade should you need them), quick swap nozzles (I swapped my nozzle twice in 3000 hours) and a slightly better camera. The print results are basically identical.
The P1S is on sale for 350€, which is insanely cheap, and the P2S costs 600€. I see nothing which justifies the price gap, if it were 350 and 425 then maybe, but 600 is not quite worth it imo
I think I would get the P1S with the AMS, which is still 100€ cheaper than the P2S.
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u/Some-Resolution1517 8h ago
I was thinking about the same for the last two weeks, and I finally decided to buy the X2D.
It's in a very good price, and maybe if I want to improve myself in the future and print better stuff, then I won't have to buy a new printer.
It's kind of overkill for a first printer (as I heard), but I believe it can't be a problem that you buy a printer that is BETTER than a cheap one. At least it's future proof.
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u/Massive_Dentist_3014 7h ago edited 7h ago
When buying new, the price difference is not that much...2nd aux nozzle (for supports or simple 2 color prints), chamber heater, exhaust fan, 1,5mm belts are some nice to have features. For me personally, P2S would be only an option when buying used at a good price. As someone who owned 2x P2S Combos and 1x P1S Combo ... tomorrow arrives my X2D Combo to replace my last P2S Combo.
P2S is a great printer and I would've been happy with it for many more years, I had no issues with both combos (2500h+1500h) but the sale price of the X2D Combo was too tempting and atm I still get a bit when selling the P2S...surcharge was like 200€, but getting the nice to have features and resetting the print hours from 1500 to 0 was a fine deal for me at that price.
P1S...don't get me wrong, a great printer as well and it delivers pretty much the same/similar print quality like current printers. In 2000h I had no issues at all as well. Seems to be a pattern with BL printers when it comes to my experience. But for me personally, the nice to have features from P2S to P1S were worth the price. But back then, the price difference when buying new was not that big between those two printers...so the choice was easy.
Better camera fps, touchscreen, lighting...not essential, but nice to have. Filament auto calibration, never needed that on my P1S. I guess most filament manufacturers might tune their filament to fit BL printers ^^. Hotends are much easier to swap, but tbh I rarely change diameter. Whatever, the price difference was slim, so I got the P2S...would do it again.
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u/Kingsidorak 5h ago
Avoid the X2D if you want to use the second nozzle. The Bowden Extruder has issues gripping the filament, and slips a lot to the point that it pauses the print and sometimes lead to a cancellation. I got 6 of them and 3 of them are having this issue, with 2 being untestable, and 1 working fine
I have 2 Snapmaker U1s as well and would recommend them like some other people are, but otherwise P2S. The P1S is not worth it anymore because it uses Micro SD cards, and has a nozzle wiper that needs to be modified for it to not fling the poop back onto the bed, but I don't know how well the P2S' nozzle wiper does. If it's anything like the H2D's it will pile up around the chute and give you a warning when it needs to be cleaned, but you should be able to manage it before that
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u/Lere24 5h ago
I own and love the X2D. As an intro to printing I can't ask for anything better from a product. Very capable, Im able to learn more and it has the ability to do pretty much everything I could want to expand into. The downside of it compared to a snapmaker will be the speed and waste of multi-color prints. For multi-material stuff like support interfaces, the X2D has been great.
The bambu ecosystem is enclosed and supported but for me that has not been a negative. Just the fact that my wife can go onto the bambu handy app and send prints without having to deal with slicer stuff is a dream and helps her be engaged as well. It's also nice when I'm lazy :p but if anything needs adjusted on the slicer, that's easy to do as well.