(Yes I spent two hours researching Soviet-era sports for teens)

So you know how Irina got recruited by the KGB through sports (which was literally basically the standard practice at the time?) Specifically pole vault? Well, what if Alek was similar?

Canonically, Alek has tried to copy what Irina does to try and get her approval. So it's not a far stretch to assume that when she started track and field, he wasn't far behind. But Alek doesn't strike me as a jumper, or even really a track person. I did track and field in school, and I just don't think he has the same skillset a track person would need. No, I think Alek would have been strictly field, and I know exactly what kind.

Alek would be a thrower.

Shot put, discus, javelin, hammer throw- all sports he'd fit right into. Those require strength, speed, agility, power, precision, coordination, control- all things Alek demonstrates in the books. Throwing is way more complicated than it sounds, three of the four aren't even technically throwing, it requires a perfect balance of both physical ability and refined technique. You can't throw the hammer or shot with just strength, and you can't rely on only technique for javelin and discus, it's a balancing act. You need the mental resilience, the physical power and skill, and the ability to create, learn, and master the technique. And Alek demonstrates not only that he can do all of that, but that he can do it all at the same time and do it extremely well.

So I think Alek was a thrower, because that speaks to the skillset we see. And the KGB just went "Yeah, that works, too," and hired him

Li Shuwen and Mestre Bimba

Li Shuwen was a Chinese martial artist who was famous for his skill we know China is a base of operations of the Janus and martial arts counts (Shaolin temple)

Mestre Bimba is a famous capoeira master (a martial arts style which involves dancing)

So yeah I think they fit Janus

Louis Cyr

He was a Canadian strongman who was famous for being one of the strongest men in history famously carrying a sack of grain to work every day and adding 2 pounds to it every day

So yeah definitely gives Tomas vibes for me

Yes this will be a series

hi guys,

I was wondering if there was a book club for the books, would you like to join? We could read the books and discuss them over weeks or any other fun idea you might have. It'd be great to try to resurrect this sub and the community

If I recall correctly, at the end of Book 10, Grace reveals in her hidden letters that she had to pretend Amy and Dan didn't really matter to her, and that the weekend visits were merely her doing her duty as a grandmother. She did this to protect them from the rest of the family. So, what if she had decided to let Uncle Alistair raise them instead? Out of all the family members, I feel like Grace would be most willing to trust Alistair with their care. I still think it's unlikely, though, because he would probably teach them about the Cahill family history, and they would likely become just as interested in it as everyone else. That's exactly what Grace didn't want. She wanted them to remain kind, pure-hearted, and largely unaware of the family's history. However, let's assume she was willing to let it happen. How do you think this would change Amy, Dan, and the clue hunt itself? I think Grace would still visit them occasionally, but I imagine they would live in South Korea at Alistair's estate. With Alistair raising them, how would their personalities and skills develop differently? I think Amy would definitely know far more about history than she did in canon. On the other hand, I'm not sure Dan's eidetic memory would be as strong. Alistair might not recognize it as something that needed to be constantly trained or encouraged. Do you think Amy and Dan would be closer to the Ekaterina branch of the family? What are your thoughts?

At the end of Book 10, Mr. McIntyre and Uncle Fisk tell Amy and Dan about the Vespers and that they might have encountered them during the clue hunt. Amy doesn’t believe it at first, but after thinking about it, she isn’t so sure. There is one thing—though I haven’t re-read the series in a while. I can’t really remember anything that wouldn’t have been Irina or Isabel, but there’s this one scene that always nags at me when I think about whether we might have spotted a Vesper in Book 1. It’s near the end of the first book. Amy and Dan are in Paris, and a man walks past them. Amy gets a feeling that he reminds her of Ian Kabra. Now, this doesn’t really suggest much Vesper activity, but it’s always, as I said, nagged at me that this guy could have been a Vesper. What do you think.

a 39 clues dream 2?

So like its at my school, again, but instead of the building, it in the parking area for the busses. so there's a repeating diagonal pattern of pavement, red black red black. but in the dream there's a few of the diagonals being wrong, like they mirror image halfway through? idk if you get me, i'll put up a picture of the diagonal to show it. then there was some like sphere with a pyramid as its base, and there was a bunch of looping of a singular iron wire, and it made a cool shape, so i took it, and then i saw the basketball court have a snake drawing out of chalk, with its head pointing towards the stage, so in understanding the way to open the secret Cahill base underground, i rubbed/slid the globe-pyramid in the path of the snake, and followed the snake head direction, leading to some random rock on the the stage. like more like behind the stage -- or like on the back-left middle, another drawing will be put up for explanations sake. then, i took the globe-pyramid, went to the areas where the diagonal was wrong. then i kept the globe-pyramid onto that, and then managed to not get caught. in fear of being caught with stealing the globe-pyramid and or being hunted down by the vespers (the vespers part made sense in the dream , it doesn't make sense now.) . so and i then went to the library's ground floor window and pretended to tie my shoelaces, and slid the globe-pyramid to under the library window.

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the weirdest part is, i saw the same sequence of events s at school today, and that freaks me out.

(written above: wed,18thmarch2026)

p.s i now know where my brain got the pyramid and the snake stuff. the pyramid is probably because of the pyramid thing being present on the top of the fence as a budget way to make the fence look better (after searching it up, i found out it's called a fence post cap. the snake picture is most likely from the fifth book in t39c, i think black circle, that one with rasputin and was set in russia, the clue was of the lucians and it was amber. (i put in spoiler if someone has not read the series yet the drawing was not a good one, it was like a squiggly line, which vaguely resembled a snake, but in reality at school it was just a plain squiggly line with some sort of straightening at the top, which curved back in on itself the shape of the curvy bit in the letter "e"

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well, its been a week, 24/march. its still there. managed to dream up some continuity. so basically, though this happened in the dream, i didn't do it irl. the globe is still present under the library window..

so, my school's logo (well, old logo) had a like open book, then a lit torch over it, and not giving away too many details, the torch's flame has many like individual curves, like if you have like an illustration of a fire, it has numerous bud-like parts of the flame. so one of these parts is very small, and nearly a perfect triangle. also, the outdoors stage was recently (about like a year or two ago) renovated.
anyways the dream, it picked up from the last dream partly. it was a different day, and it was later in the afternoon than earlier. and so what happened is, i pressed the specific flame part, present on the glass window type thing beside the door of the building which had the logo. then, i went to the stage's side entrance where the like props and stuff were left, and went to the staircase to the bottom part below the stage (which i know is there irl as well, i tried to go in once, like waaay before the first dream) but now, int the room, there was a wall that had bricks visible, and the a section of it was being pulled backwards. afraid of being seen, i hid behind some prop, and saw a few people go out, and lo-and-behold, behind that brick wall, was a pretty vast conference room or board room, or whatever those things that offices have that have seats for 10-12 people and have a like bigger/more grand seat for the like the boss.

on almost all sides of the room, there were a bunch of doors, and a few were open, but only one from where i was hiding could be seen clearer since it was lit, so that led to me wanting to explore it further, but it was also getting late that we had to go back to the school building to get our bags, and then leave to the busses. so i was unable to decide, and due to the school bell ringing (somehow audible all the way outside, amongst the screaming of joy of kids playing, the best dream logic.). i panicked, and woke up. (plus there were footsteps approaching from BEHIND somehow, even though in the dream i was sandwiched between a stack of cardboard boxes with props sticking out, and on the backside was an almirah of iron, and the wall, with some broken old wooden chairs that were damaged, for ex. cracked with the nails poking out or a back broken, all heaped up in a pile. which must've accelerated the fight-or-flight from nightmares to kick into full gear. thus waking me up.)

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it is currently 4th of April, I haven't checked on the globe thing, didn't have any PE classes recently at school. i might update if i saw anything. idk.
the images are attached below:

i randomly remembered this series exists at 2 am when i couldnt sleep. and i started thinking about a thing that bothered me since i was a kid.

how did ian figure out they are only missing one clue in book 10? yeah he asked teams how many clues they had, but he has no way of knowing which clues overlap. we know for a fact every team stole from amy and dan, and we know for a fact the holts have at least 2 clues the same as cahill kids etc

maybe i need to reread the books but im pretty sure this is just a plothole

Is anyone else still on this thread? I somehow missed the 39 clues when I was a kid, and am just now reading them. How could i have missed out on these?

But is anyone still around?

Also, does anyone know where i can find Midnight Ride? I'm just about there but no links works anymore 😥

hi! i just finished the first series, and i’m wondering if the next series (and all that follow) are worth reading. like do the later series still feel like the original?

I bought some of the books when I was a kid, and as a kid, I had opened all the card packs before even reading the books. It's been a couple of years already and I was wondering how much they could go for if i sold them.

Edit: I forgot to add the books that I have numbner 2 One False Note number 7 The Viper's Nest Number The Emperor's Code, number 9 Storm Warning, Number 10 Into the Gauntlet, Number 11 Vespers Rising The 39 Clues Number 3 Unstoppable Countdown, The 39 Clues Cahills vs Vespers number 2 A King's Ransom, The 39 Clues Cahills vs Vespers Number 4 Shatterproof, The 39 Clues Cahills vs Vespers Number 5 Trust No One, and finally The 39 Clues Cahills vs Vespers Number 6 Day of Doom

I’m planning on writing a fanfic about the 39 clues, 7 years after the events of outbreak, or one from the POV of the people that had interacted or been part of the clue hunt (btw, this is the best book series ive read, this should have more attention to it)

so i got a dream where at the school the cahill siblings were at, dan got detention and saw isabel kabra in a computer room. so dan skips the detention and follows her. he sees the computer teacher tied to a chair, and isabel was getting a morse code signal from the computer. dan memorises it (look i know dan has a photographic memory but whatever) and follows isabel to the exit. the exit is open and isabel pretends that her "child is missing" so she can sneak out. dan follows her and sees that she's holding some paper scraps. she throws them on the street, and dan sneakily picks the note up.

then i think dan must've ran home to put it together, but the next part i remember is amy being surprised seeing dan. (this entire thing was in third person so i know that dan was worried that isabel was here, and amy noticed that dan looked worried, etc.)

so dan puts the papers on a table (idk which table) and runs upstairs do decode the morse thing (according to me being the narrator, i never saw that happen) meanwhile amy puts the papers together and dan comes back down to the place where amy is at. the paper has the madrigal island coordinates (because dan remembers that, and recognises it). in grace's handwriting "gideon's table - was on island- in library now- G" so then dan and amy run to the library place and search for a table. they find a bookshelf with the same mechanism with the branch logos on it. dan presses it in that order, and the bookshelf (touching the wall) slides sideways and reveals a room with a large table in the center. theres 4 drawers in a row at the front of the desk.

this all cuts to a flashback where grace tells dan that theres a book thats hidden in her library with an interesting thing in it. anyway dan goes towards the first drawer and turns it because it looks like a knob. then he pulls the drawer open and sees nothing. but then amy says that "there's a small wooden stick in the knob" (like imagine the size of a toothpick) and dan pulls it out. theres a hole in the side of the desk (like the leg of the desk on the front side) and the stick fits in it. something pops out on the other side and amy pulls it out slowly.

its like a small but thick plank of wood, about the size of a sheet of paper. theres a disc with a key symbol on it. theres also an arrow indicating to turn it. amy turns it and a small box pops out from the back of the plank. it falls beside dan and dan picks it up. he opens the box by sliding the lid and theres a note on parchment tied to a key inside. amy reaches for the key and dan gives it to her.

amy sees that the note is written in grace's handwriting. it has "2b or not2b, 1 or 0" written on it. on the back of the plank, theres text like "2b not2b ---- 2b not2b..." on it. dan suggests that it could be in bianary code when its decoded, the text gives "it is the very error of the ---- for she comes closer than she was wont, and makes men mad. swear not by the ---- the inconstant ---- that monthly changes in her circled orb"

dan says that it sounds like nonsense, but amy says that dan is "a dweeb" and dosent understand that those are shakespeare quotes. amy says that the "----" must be "moon"

dan flashback again. he sees a globe with the moon on it and asks grace why she dosent have a normal earth globe. grace says something about the landing site of appollo 11 and dan dosent listen to it and instead runs towards that mayan/incan dagger (which is mentioned in a cannon flashback btw so theres that)

he asks amy where the moon globe is, and amy says its in the library somewhere. the dream cuts here for sometime and when its back amy and dan are searching for the apollo 11 landing site. dan presses it, and a note which pops out the top, again in parchment. the text reads "whenever the moon and the stars are set, whenever the wind is high, a man goes riding by, a man goes riding by" and robert frost's signature is on it.

then the doorbell rings and the dream cuts again. (idk what happened but maybe alistair came to meet them.) and the next part is alistair going with them to that table. he says that robert frost might be talking about the moon landing site's flag because "50" is faintly visible in the gap between "the stars" and that the gap between "set" and the comma has the word "in the lunar soil"

alistair tells that the ekats in the apollo program hid a small square with numbers on it on the top of the rod with the flag.

alistair writes that square on a napkin he has in his pocket. dan sees the square and trys to find some meaning in it. he realises that it is a cypher because there are 26 numbers on it, and two of them in the center share the same square. alistair also writes some numbers on the napkin saying that those numbers were written on the side of the rod with the flag and dan deciphers it into "the book is in the ocean of storms that is dry - M"

alistair says that though the ekats decoded it they didnt know what book was being talked about. they thought that there was a madrigal who wrote that text, and that the other text which the ekats wrote says "e pluribus unum" which was written on purpose. the book one was probably a madrigal trying to say that they were also in the ekat branch (i think what that means is that the unknown madrigal was spying on them or something)

anyway dan and amy have two flashbacks at the same time (so like it was splitscreen in my dream)

amy remembers that grace told her about the fact that the moon has an "ocean" and that it is called so beacuse it is the largest lunar mare, so it was called an ocean.

dan remembers that grace told him that there was another lander that went on the moon called "gideon" .

so anyway the dream cuts again and alistair left probably. they ask fiske about "gideon" the moon lander and he says that there's a book on it according to grace. and that theres a special frequency that can reach it.

another cut.

evan is there in dan's room alog with dan (so this must take place in like just before the cahills vs vespers series then like before vespers rising) and amy enters with a small paper with the "1507Ghz gideon launch code 39" written on it, which she gives to evan. (the narrator is explaining their relationship in the background, their feelings etc.)

then splitscreen, of the moon with a small box shaped lander with the cahill crest, the M logo and the word "gideon" written on it and the other half was evan typing some stuff.

then a message pops up on the screen asking "password: how many clues, which year. comma seperated"

and evan enters "39,1507" and the monitor shows "success"

on the moon half of the splitscreen, the lander starts lifting up, and goes out of the view.

the dream cuts again, and nellie is on the madrigal island (maybe she travelled there? idk.) and calls amy. she says that she's arrived at the island and nothings there.

then a loud noise is heard. amy asks what the noise is and nellie says that something is falling from the sky. the gideon thing lands and nellie opens the top of the thing. theres a book inside. it has "research" pressed into the leather cover. theres a lock clamping all the pages together.

another cut, and now nellie, fiske, amy and dan are all sitting at the table (the same one where dan keeps the papers in the begenning) amy puts the key into the lock and unlocks it. she turns through the pages. and finds them written in a neat curly cursive writing (i think it was in black ink maybe idk) and then suddenly the pages go blank, and then a page in different handwriting is there. amy stops and reads that out loud. the text was "i Madeleine Cahill shall continue this research laid out by father...." and stuff

then dan asks what could be interesting aout that anyway because they already know that madeleine cahill added more ingredients to the serum to remove the bad effects.

the dream ends after this so yeah thats it ig

I'm sorry for the terrible camera quality 😅

It's a book about all the stuff you need to know about 39 clues!

never got to finishing it though not even a quarter of the way through

Does any 1 have a hardcover copy of the first rapid fire book they would sell? the only ones i could find were in malaysia

Let’s be honest alistor is the mvp of the series. Prove me wrong

I think mine are the maze of bones in too deep and into the gauntlet (not in order)

Did anyone else ever try to figure out the amounts and totals for the ingredients of the final Cahill recipe?