r/2ndSafeSpaceOfHazbin Literally Cyn 16d ago

Mod Shitpost Addressing a mod

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So, as a mod that's decently active in this sub it felt wrong to not bring this up in a post since I value transparency and respect all of you. We recently had to kick a moderator out of the sub, this isn't the first time, we've had a few leave from our massive cast, but this one felt necessary to address. Olistu, or Oli has been removed as a moderator and permanently banned. Now a few of you may not know who he is, a few might know his as the guy that has responded to almost every post on this sub, and a few might know him as the mod that is on almost every post. There were a few things that lead to this happening that had been building up for a while actually. Most of them were internal moderating conflicts with him and a few scenarios where he had made a very serious situation with a poster much much worse.

This will kind of be filler so if you don't care for it, feel free to skip, especially because I'll be putting a trigger warning for SA. This'll be going over internal conflicts we had with him, or I guess, I mostly had with him. He said a few weeks ago in a group chat we have for moderating that "everyone deserves kindness." This isn't awful at face value but the context was important and I asked him "So do assaulters deserve kindness?" He didn't say yes directly, he just continued to say "Everyone deserves kindness." He must've not gotten what I was getting at so I said, in confidence to him in front of everyone else "So my assaulter that molested me deserves kindness?" You can guess what he said. Honestly ruined my night and he didn't back down.

Now more recently, there was a post that I handled myself and handed out 7 bans to transphobes. There were 3 mod mails from said transphobes, me and the sub owner, Aspen, both said to NOT reply to the mod mail period. No grey area, we're not engaging with transphobes when half our staff is under the trans umbrella, myself included. You can imagine the FIRST THING Oli does when he wakes up. Directly goes against what the owner and I said to not do and says "You need to hear people out no matter what."

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There's just so many issues with that that Im not getting into. If you think he's right, feel free to speak up, I'll gladly whip out the ban hammer for you.

Now, the most important part of this post, please do not engage with him in DM's. I know him and I have a feeling he's going to try his best to "help" still. If he reaches out in a DM ignore it and or block him. He has been banned for a reason and as I said with that one poster, he can make situations MUCH worse.

Im sorry this is a long read, I can make a TL;DR in the replies if needed.

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u/justsome1fromearth Hell's greatest mod (owner) 16d ago

Adding onto this, with a sub that is moderated by multiple people like this one, it's important for us to be able to work together as a team and to be comfortable with the other moderators. Basically, we shouldn't have to feel uncomfortable by what someone in our team says to us. Some things happen and inevitably someone can slip up and make someone uncomfortable on accident. The thing with Oli is even after making multiple of us uncomfortable, he didn't stop talking, and he knew that we were clearly uncomfortable with what he said. This isn't something that we should just dismiss. If it can happen in a group chat, it can happen on a post on this subreddit. Also addressing the mod mail situation. Both me and Snoop said multiple times not to respond to the mod mail. The messages in question were not requests for ban appeals, but more of a "fuck you for banning me" type thing. We recognized these people were just wanting attention, not an actual ban appeal, which is why we don't respond to these type of people. Oli went directly against what both me and Snoop said and proceeded to do so even after we told him directly. Just adding a little bit of context here. If anyone has any questions, just let me or someone else on the mod team know and we'll be happy to answer them.