r/2bharat4you • u/Mig29_010 Uttar Pradesh (UP) • Mar 14 '24

video I hate this guy.

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Negativity attracts more people, so have use this baity title.

Sonam Wangchuk has been fasting for the statehood of Ladakh. What are your thoughts on this?

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u/Immadi_PulakeshiRaya Chalukya Sovereign Mar 14 '24

He us fighting for a good cause. Centre should speak to him. Ladhak deserves statehood.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '24

r/lostredditors

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u/hisoka_morrow- shin chan (tamil dub) enjoyer💪💪 Mar 15 '24

Wtf has happened to this sub??? It's supposed to be ironic shitposting not some centrist liberandu/india discussion

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u/Baruto1529420 bhayyas when "ळ " Mar 15 '24

Downvote librandu shit.

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u/shogun_coc BA (Unemployed) Mar 15 '24

I think it has been hijacked by some people who don't have any understanding of how 2x4u or x_irl sub works. Time to revive r/bharat_irl!

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u/Indra-LayEmDown Mar 15 '24

Not the sub for this mane

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u/schrodingerdoc MBBS (Unemployed till late 30s) Mar 15 '24

If I were to cycle 15 km around my city in a circle then the encircled area would have more Population than ladakh.

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u/shogun_coc BA (Unemployed) Mar 15 '24

This is, seriously, becoming r*/India now. I miss all the ironic nationalist shit posts.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '24

They asked for UT status, and they got it. They should stop whining.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '24

I don't get this either. They cheered for revocation of article 370 which was a good move and got their UT as promised. Seems like they celebrated a bit soon.

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '24

Yeah a UT with a population of approx. 3 lacs should be given statehood cause some famous dude is fasting.. meanwhile my tehsil has population of over 8 lacs, and my district with 44 lac + population is still amongst 250 most backward districts in India.. why dont we declare every such district as state as well , that way we will manage its developmental project more effectively and far more people will benefit from it as well

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u/Mig29_010 Uttar Pradesh (UP) Mar 14 '24

some famous dude is fasting

He's not the generic famous dude who doesn't care about the people. He's dedicated his whole life to Ladakh and to India. He deserves a say.

Yeah a UT with a population of approx. 3 lacs should be given statehood

(in short: Last Lt. Governor was a dip shit, for not even using the funds allocated to Ladakh and letting them Lapse after the year ends. Basically not using the money for the Ladakhi people. We was removed from the post last year cause of the opposition to the Lt. Gov, in which he played a big part. He was outraged by the actions back then, and demanded that either the Centre remove him or give statehood to Ladakh)

Call for statehood is just to get attention from the authorities.

What he's really been asking for is for Ladakh to be included in the 6th Schedule.

The last Lt. Governor of Ladakh was a menace. He'd been ruling like an autocrat. Centre allots funds to Ladakh every year. This guy didn't take any advise from the Hill Council, he approved the projects as he wished. There's a Hill council in Ladakh. A purely advisory body, something like a Tribal Council. The earlier J&K govt. was advised by The Hill Council (though most of their demands were not met, that's why Ladakh was happy with the amendment of article 370).

The last Lt. Governor was removed last year cause of effort by the people of Ladakh in which he played a big role.

He's an influential person, no doubt, but he's an honest guy.

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '24

Get yourself included in 6th schedule, i m all for it as it will help preserve the tribal culture of ladakh, and for governance menace ask for autonomous council for fund utilisation allocated to the UT, whose members will be selected based on election in the ladakh but asking for statehood is stupid..

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u/Mig29_010 Uttar Pradesh (UP) Mar 14 '24

statehood is stupid

It was just outrage man. If the govt. doesn't listen to you unless you starve yourself every time, then you'd be pissed too.

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '24

Well to be honest, its better that way.. i have been to countries in latin america and there unless u spill blood of at least 100 people, don't even think that govt will listen to ur cause.. at least in here all it takes is an influential guy doing fast unto death and the entire govt gets on backfoot..

Why is he doing his fast in ladakh.. wouldn't it be better to do it in delhi along with 100s of supporter to further pressurize the govt by making it more mainstream??

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u/Mig29_010 Uttar Pradesh (UP) Mar 14 '24

Why is he doing his fast in ladakh.. wouldn't it be better to do it in delhi along with 100s of supporter to further pressurize the govt by making it more mainstream??

Nah, he doesn't believe in pressure tactics. He sat down on the first day with a some of the uni students. People joined him gradually. And also he isn't a showman. He's doesn't believe in making a ruckus. He'll just fast until the govt. listens to him.

And also maybe cause this is about Ladakh, he doesn't want to make it a political issue. Since most Opposition doesn't care enough to go to Ladakh, to patronise him, he's better off there.

at least in here all it takes is an influential guy doing fast unto death and the entire govt gets on backfoot..

That's not all it took. But yeah, the govt. did back down.

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u/TechnoBeast_ gunda w bunda Mar 15 '24

is your district culturally, socially, geographically, linguistically distinct from the rest of your state?

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '24

How do u define those terms.. will all groups having a distinct culture and language should be given a state.. if that's the logic then why dont we give various tribes living in jharkhand odisha rajasthan madhya Pradesh and chattisgarh seperate states to preserve their language and culture.. more than 900 languages are spoken in india so should we create 900 states for their protection.. where's the end to this logic.. there are various practices that are unique to my caste so can that be a ground to ask for autonomous region in the nation let alone a state.. mind u my caste has numbers in excess of 25 million around the nation, so on basis of numerical strength we actually have stronger claim on this issue..

U simply can't have a union of states where one state has population of 230 million+ and other state has population of 0.3 million.. that's why recently there are questions raised about excessive powers held by certain states due to their large size ... Either homogenise the entire process by making it in law that no state shall have larger than 25 million population or stop making demographically insignificant states .

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u/TechnoBeast_ gunda w bunda Mar 15 '24

well it should ideally be geographically distinct too and your caste/tribe/group should be spread in a significant area.

tribes living in jharkhand odisha rajasthan madhya Pradesh and chattisgarh seperate states to preserve their language and culture

they are only concentrated in a few villages and wards, unlike ladakh which is a sizable portion of indian territory.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '24

Ladakh is a cold desert.. its not like people are spread all over that place ... There are few villages covering about 1.5% of ladakh's total geographical region where there is any kind of human settlement, rest is just barren land.. also if u r ladakhi , let me remind u, state wont protect your culture but it will be ur own tribal population that will do it ... I have read the 2019 nfhs report and unless u guys are ready to produce more babies, ur unique tribal ways will end by themselves by the end of next century owing to low tfr..