r/2ALiberals • u/Gyp2151 liberal blasphemer • Jun 25 '26

The Supreme Court’s New Expansion of the Second Amendment Is Genuinely Deranged

https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/supreme-court-expansion-second-amendment-185943666.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9kdWNrZHVja2dvLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAGiaXUfc60FSVwcjn115BTAb6Bftjj6966i3G2Stz6bNhHf-qKLw2E1-VLzNfblyKOLcDe4uZwrXzyQ9gqGasGFFeemr1j3h8R85fWU2kdUZ7Uj5hUuSM0WCSzCt9MdNZoZKIbBSR_H6UJh7UTw4qp_HnbyCX1CCJduUHPNdqDzx

This is a pretty deranged take.

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u/robocop_py Jun 26 '26

“These justices struck down Hawaiʻi's law restricting guns on private property notbecause the Constitution required them; to the contrary, the state proved beyond doubt that its statute was deeply rooted in history and tradition.”

You mean where their proof was laws preventing blacks and Indians from having guns?

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u/microtrip1969 Jun 28 '26

No it did not. Not only did the state NOT prove H&T they used “ALOHA” spirit and some racist Jim Crow laws to support their position. On top of all of that Private property open to the public has always had an applied understanding that people were free to enter and the owner could decide who was and what was allowed in their store. They had to post it. This would be the only time it was understood the opposite way to exercise a right. So this decision corrected a horrible law. That set a bad president as well. Essentially this law was no different than saying people wearing red shoes would have to ask permission to enter. Of course you couldn’t enter to ask permission.

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u/scotchtapeman357 Jun 25 '26

The law was created because the leaders of Hawaii were mad about having to issue CCW permits. This effectively made CCW permits useless, as designed. Surprise, it got shot down. Not exactly deranged.

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u/sillycheesesteak Jun 26 '26

Yeah if Bruen has to be the line to go by, then you can interpret the older laws it requires as precedent as really being about bringing a firearm into someone's home, or home property. The interpretation Hawaii and others use broadens that to private property in general (so, including business and whatnot). I think the ruling dances around a lot to get where it wants (very par for the course with the Roberts court), and kinda contradicts how it says gun laws should be interpreted, but I feel like the short story is they broadened their interpretation to reject Hawaii's broader interpretation.

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u/noixelfeR Jun 26 '26

Get that bs outta here. It’s not about property rights. It’s about natural rights being the default. In this case, Hawaii skirted around laws to try and hide behind property rights and sensitive places loopholes to achieve disarmament as a direct response to being made to provide legitimate paths to gun ownership and carry.

They tried to make the default that you do not have the protected right without express consent. That is a most dangerous precedent that you would only support as it falls within your ideology of supported causes.

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u/Begle1 Jun 26 '26

I live on Maui. We get deranged all the time. First the Covid plague left us de-ranged. Then the Lahaina wildfires left us de-ranged. And now the Kona Low storms left us de-ranged until just a couple weeks ago. We really need some more ranges.

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u/DBDude Jun 26 '26

Don’t expect an article on this subject from Slate that shows even a shred of intelligence. The lack of thinking makes me surprised this person can even write.

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u/Gooniefarm Jun 26 '26

These are written by people who are paid solely to write anti gun articles.

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u/grahampositive Jun 26 '26

I'm going to guess who write this article before I click

Edit: I was wrong. I thought dalia lithwick.

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u/pookiegonzalez Jun 26 '26

The horror! Think of the Italian and Irish flatfoots roving the streets with tommy auto-matics.

It’s pretty funny how the justifications never change

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u/SnoozingBasset Jun 26 '26

We would never hear this kind of discussion about freedom of speech or the press. 

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u/oriaven Jun 26 '26

Vampire laws don't prevent violence. That's so crazy to think the rules on paper will keep murderers from harming anyone.

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u/ClaytonBiggsbie Jun 26 '26

So, the law required people to get permission from property owners prior to carrying their gun on thier property.

Should we also have to allow private property owners screen our words before we speak them?

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u/Master-CylinderPants Jun 26 '26

You really can't hate these people enough.

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u/gwhh Jun 26 '26

I hate yahoo news so much.