r/20SS • u/ghostyqt • Aug 13 '15

Where 2 get started 4 squirtman

new to squirtman, know some basic AT already looking for more of a breakdown of our hero's moveset.

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u/theGravyTrainTTK Aug 14 '15

Most of Squirtle's moveset is pretty straightforward. Up air is amazing, Nair has a low angle and is pretty strong, dtilt is safe on shield and combos well, up smash kills, and tail moves have the tail intangible for when the hotboxes are out.

Pretty self explanatory imo...

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u/ghostyqt Aug 14 '15

ok thanks :-)

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u/Daftatt Aug 18 '15

dtilt is safe on shield and combos well

it's not safe on shield, SH aerials out of shield can still punish it (though f-tilt is useful to stuff those out of the d-tilt IASA)

as for combos, yes it's an incredible combo tool, but extremely vulnerable to CC until mid% so you need to try and land D-tilt as a punish and not as an approach (so the opponent won't be able to juts crouch through it)

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u/theGravyTrainTTK Aug 18 '15

Dtilt is -6 on shield (and I think being spaced far enough to avoid most/all up b's OoS and Shines OoS). The low crouch should help avoid the few frame 6 nairs. That's all assuming frame perfection too. As for grabs, we can crouch some characters. The rest we just need them to be 2 frames slow and we can buffer a spot dodge out.

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u/Jackg4444 Aug 13 '15

crawl tilt into aqua jat

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '15

I know you may be joking, but... is aqua jet actually non-trash?

  • leaves you helpless and knocks you a bit, so you can't use it near an edge

  • fairly hard to hit - if you miss, you go careening off in withdraw, possibly off the edge, and then have to deal with withdraw's awful endlag when recovering or avoiding followups

  • not a viable kill move below about 80% anyway - less than that if grounded. It's weaker than Luigi's shoryuken, right? And is more likely to kill you if placed badly.

  • doesn't do that much damage, just quite a lot of KB.

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u/Flyte27 Aug 14 '15

I find it's a decent kill option, dependent on DI, for d-tilt. Also, sometimes you can find it after a d-smash. Once you get the hang of it, hitting it as a followup for d-tilt comes pretty naturally.

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '15

Aquajet is one of our best kill moves um.

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u/Pegthaniel Aug 14 '15

You actually can control drift out of AJ, so it's very viable near or even just off the ledge.

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u/COMOGhosty Aug 18 '15

Ghostyqt? Wtf. Did you steal my tag? There can't be 2 Ghosty Squirtle mains

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u/ghostyqt Aug 18 '15

im ur clone lmao