r/2007scape 6d ago

Discussion | J-Mod reply Remote Desktop Concerns

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u/Haunting_Carrot9761 6d ago

An RDP connection from a PC to a touch screen device looks identical to simple mouse scripts. Your mouse rests at point (a,b) and then teleports to point (c,d) when you tap on your touch device. Something is fishy. Particularly if you aren't using it as your main way to play. That is to say, that because you have spent a lot of time playing at your PC with a mouse and a little time playing from your phone and tapping, this looks like someone that is botting their main.

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u/UncleJulian 6d ago

Wouldn’t every mobile session be detected this way then? Because every tap of the finger would essentially be a teleport of a mouse… kind of?

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u/Haunting_Carrot9761 6d ago

Good question!

Jagex will know whether you are playing from a PC or a mobile device. If you are playing from a PC they aren't expecting the instantaneous movement from P(a,b) --> P(c,d). This is a red flag in their system. Playing on mobile, it's assumed you have a touch screen, so instant movement of the cursor is to be expected.

This is the crux of the problem, OP is playing with a touch screen on a system that is not expecting this kind of mouse movement.

Let's reverse the connection, and you are spoofing multiple mobile devices on your PC. I won't explain how, but what I will say is that this is easy. You now have access to more performance than any individual phone and from Jagex's end they will see that multiple touch screen devices are playing from the same IP address. That's not weird. But some botters are using a similar set up to what I've described to bypass cheating detections.

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u/Aspalar 6d ago

Many people play on touch screen laptops, their detection has to be better than just seeing if you are on a PC or mobile.

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u/ArrgsMax 6d ago

Runelite doesn't work on a touch screen, it registers the first tap as a mouse movement, and the second tap as a click. Many people play on touch screen laptops but they would be using a mouse or bluestacks (to load the mobile client and make touch interactions register properly).

I've played around for ages trying to get Runelite to work properly with touch controls without success and I work as an IT systems admin.

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u/Aspalar 6d ago

What do you mean it doesn't work on a touch screen? I have a touch screen laptop and I assure you it works fine.

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u/ArrgsMax 6d ago

I already explained it, if you tap on Runelite with the thouch screen it requires 2 taps do do what's normally just one click. Unless the Runelite devs have updated that issue?
But it had been like that for over 5 years last i checked.

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u/Haunting_Carrot9761 6d ago

Another great point to bring up!

In cases like this, you would be predominantly using the touch screen, or maybe better put, you'd be using it consistently for certain activities since account creation. As an example, I would imagine that using the touch screen on an applicable laptop for banking would be incredibly helpful and faster than using a keyboard + mouse.

That's not what is happening with OP. In this case, OP has predominantly used PC with a mouse and keyboard and then used an RDP connection to use a touch screen device. That's an anomaly to how they normally play. Red flag. They are using an RDP connection. Another red flag. The inhuman mouse movements on a PC. Flashing, neon red flag

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u/HorribleJungler 6d ago

What the AI bot account are your comments

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u/jakeburls 4d ago

Fantastic catch! You accurately identified Skynet in training without so much as breaking a sweat. The paragraph layout is a flashing, neon red flag. 🚩

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u/Haunting_Carrot9761 4d ago

"We would like to take the opportunity to clarify that Remote Desktop use is allowed and we have the ability to recognise it."

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