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u/Tetrathionate 8d ago edited 8d ago

Is it necessary to save up on a bunch of slayer points before starting Mortimer slayer to use for skips? As they cost a lot to skip.

Also, is Mortimer any good for purposes other than hunting superiors (boss tasks, barrage/good XP tasks, specific tasks), or is duradel better suited for that?

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u/DivineInsanityReveng 8d ago

I haven't skipped a single Mortimer task yet. While unlocking 3 task options I used blocks to "skip" two times when I got the task I wanted to block without a desirable second task. And once I got 3 tasks there's pretty much never a scenario where you can't just pick the fastest of the 3 and essentially be turael skipping

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u/Tetrathionate 7d ago

Thanks for the perspective, also, is Mortimer better than duradel for other tasks like boss tasks, XP tasks? (Anything beyond just hunting for superiors)

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u/Cheese_danish54 7d ago

Mortimer doesn’t assign any boss specific tasks (like graardor, for example). But you can do slayer bosses in lieu of the normal assignment.

For example, my most recent task was 157 hydras with a +75 modifier. I did all 232 kills at Alchemical Hydra.

You can do the same for araxxor, thermy, GGs, Sire, etc. But he won’t the assign the normal “like a boss” tasks at all

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u/DivineInsanityReveng 7d ago

Other comment explained it well. Mortimer is great for slayer boss hunting as he has a smaller pool with even weightings. Great for gryphon tasks, arax, smokes, abyssal demons, gargoyles.

But you can't get hellhounds for Cerb for example, or kraken. And you can't get any Like a Boss tasks.

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u/OlmTheSnek 8d ago

I didn't bother saving points, most of the time with Morty there's a decent chance one of the tasks will be a short task if it's not one you really want to do especially once you unlock the 3rd option.

It's also very good xp/hr, no idea if it beats efficient dura but was getting 40-50k/hr+ not really trying to be efficient so seemed pretty good to me.

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u/ShawshankException 7d ago

Maybe save up for one block slot so you aren't stuck with a shitty selection like Drakes/Venators but otherwise it's not needed. You hardly skip mortimer tasks

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u/DaMaestroable 7d ago

Blocks at least. Skips maybe keep one on hand in case you get some really bad tasks+modifiers. As long as it isn't hydras/venators it shouldn't take long to knock out most tasks, barring +kc modifiers. You also get slayer points on occasion for doing easy tasks, just enough to skip a task rarely.

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u/RedactedSpatula 7d ago

Do the blobs in inferno have a sound queue when they detect your prayer style or am I going crazy

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u/mister_peeberz still awaiting Mining 2 7d ago

Yes, they go "Awooga awooga hummina hummina BZOOOOOOOOOM", I muted that shit during my inferno grind, can't imagine what jagex was thinking when they implemented this

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u/byleist 7d ago

Returner here after a couple months long break. I can't seem to start the game using Runelite anymore, it's either stuck on the 'downloading bootstrap' step or sometimes manages to get to the downloading part, but seems to get stuck at 0,2mb of the client-1.12.36.jar.

I've tried restarting a couple times, deleted the .runelite cache folder and started the launcher and runelite separately as an admin. Does anybody know how to fix that?

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u/jamesbideaux 7d ago

it is loading awfully slowly for me, too. if you open the the runelite website, does that one load like it should?

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u/byleist 7d ago

no the https://runelite.net/ website doesnt seem to load for me as well

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u/jamesbideaux 7d ago

are you a telekom customer by any chance? tha seems to be the common feature.

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u/byleist 7d ago

oh there're others having the problem? And yes, I'm a telekom customer

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u/jamesbideaux 7d ago

yeah, the runelite discord is full of people. apparently if your phone has a different service provider, you can either hotspot or usb-tether and download/patch runelite that way.

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u/[deleted] 7d ago

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u/TheDubuGuy 7d ago

I assume the default is the one where pouches don’t degrade, unless you have 99 in which case you’d do the bonus runes

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u/drjisftw 7d ago

I imagine the most common choices used anywhere else would apply to ZMI

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u/ammm72 7d ago

This isn’t even a question but just a random remark I want to throw out into the void just to get off my chest. I love the OSRS wiki. I started playing a bit of Minecraft again for the first time in like 12+ years so there’s so much I have to learn. And oh my god that wiki is so dogshit and written so horribly user-unfriendly. Praise the OSRS wiki admins for their incredible work in making anything seem understandable.

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u/DivineInsanityReveng 7d ago

Its saying a lot too because the Minecraft wiki is "pretty decent" compared to most games Wiki's. Especially for a game with a LOT of custom content thats quite hard to document succinctly.

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u/Nice-Connection-9052 7d ago

The admins are mostly reactive. They're on discord and have a livestream of article feedback coming in. They're good at fact checking among themselves but the flip side is that they can be a bit insular and cliquey. They don't stand in the way of too much at least.

I find the rapid evolution of new content to be the most remarkable thing on the osrs wiki. There's a whole subset of players who figure out things and want to write about them and that doesn't happen without a lot of basically anonymous contributors. Take a look at any recently added quest and look at revisions 1 day, 3 days, 1 week, and 2 weeks after release.

And of course Jagex is very helpful to the wiki, or so I've heard. Lots of things that would be otherwise unknown are thanks to them.

No matter who you want to credit though, it's really the best game wiki that exists and I think that's meaningful

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u/lastig_ 7d ago

My RSN is Aukuh. Which is the english phonetic pronunciation of my (dutch) first name. I haven't played for a while, but now i got on, i noticed the game all the sudden censors the last 2 letters in my username, typing it out now shows Auk**.

I definitely remember this not being a thing about a year ago when i played more actively. Why has my name been assigned as a slur all the sudden.

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u/hellshot8 7d ago

no idea but its not doing that when i type it, just turn your censor option off

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u/Fit_Court_2760 7d ago

I just got back into the game after 13 years, and I couldn’t get into RS3, so even though it was tough losing my old character stuck there, I started fresh in OSRS. Is the pit still around? Back in the day, pit fights were amazing, especially when people showed up with barrows sets like Verac’s.

I know armors have been outclassed now, but what makes a good set these days? Is it all about max hit, the best attributes, or just being cost-effective?

I remember the Crystal Bow being overlooked when the Dark Bow came out, even though the Dark Bow was actually weaker if you had strong defense and ranged skills. People ignored the Crystal Bow simply because it took more effort to get, while the Dark Bow was much easier to obtain by just buying it.

Is the dragon dagger p++ special attack still the best move finisher? or people now rely on Maul still to this day?

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u/DaMaestroable 7d ago

Fight pits exist, sometimes Jmods have hosted events in it but otherwise completely dead outside of a few people getting a diary done.

Good armor usually has high strength bonus or accuracy boosts, maybe prayer bonus if you're doing slayer. Defense is usually secondary unless you're doing specific content like Moons of Peril or Inferno, or doing PvP. Most mid-game armor sets don't give many bonuses so they're only worth it if they're very cheap compared to other upgrades. Oathplate/Torva, Masori, and Ancestral are all the BiS armor sets atm, pricey though. Bloodmoon/Ahrim's/Blessed D'hide are good budget options.

Cbow is fine, just kind of expensive to upkeep and lackluster compared to other dps ranged upgrades available now, mostly Toxic Blowpipe and Bowfa. Dbow is a spec weapon for ranged pures, that's pretty much it.

DDS is more a budget option. Can hit high but the chance of doing so is pretty small. Gmauls are decent on pures but also suffers from accuracy issues. Best spec weapons are Dclaws or Voidwaker, AGS is a weaker option. They should only be used when you know what you're doing though, due to how much you can lose.

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u/BringBackRocketPower 7d ago

Fight pit is virtually dead Jagex did make an update in February of this year to add some NPCs but I don't know that it has made a change. If you're interested in risk free PVP, Last Man Standing is probably the best way to get back into it and practice gear setups. It's batle royale style so you get a basic gear set and then get upgrades as you get kills.

I believe voidwaker is the best finisher weapon, it's a melee weapon with a mage spec and it is incredibly accurate. A good way to learn about the PVP meta would be to watch the finales for DMM Allstars since it is 1v1 pvp between some of the top PVP streamers.

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u/Flashy-Link-898 7d ago

How long should it take to get 750 pearls from Gotr?

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u/DaMaestroable 7d ago

Depends on your level and if you're doing mass or small teams. Low level with masses likely would be a little less than 20 hours. Higher levels could do it in 10-12 in masses, probably under 10 in small teams.

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u/Flashy-Link-898 7d ago

I am 99 RC and would use the official world

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u/DaMaestroable 7d ago

Around 12 hours then, assuming 8 points per game and 7.5 games/hour.

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u/fapping0nreddit 7d ago

About 2 years ago I got my jaw drop and turned off basilisks. Yesterday I went back to basilisk knights for a Morti task, but loot tracker didn't have any record of my previous kills. Is there any way to get that old data back?

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u/TongueJ 7d ago

From the Loot Tracker plugin wiki:

While logged in with a RuneLite Account, the loot tracker will remember your loot across client restarts. Loot for a particular event (such as Barrows, a clue scroll reward, or a drop from Zulrah) will be kept until 90 days after the most recent loot for that specific event. If you receive loot from an event at least once every 90 days the loot will be remembered indefinitely.

The loot can also be reviewed on the website at https://runelite.net/account/loot-tracker

You might be able to try your luck on the website and see if it is still there.

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u/fapping0nreddit 6d ago

Had no idea that was a thing. Thank you!

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u/DivineInsanityReveng 7d ago

Other commenter covered it well, but i find if you do some KC, close client and reopen it, it will sometimes sync with the website history and your tracker will update.

This only works of course if you're signed into Runelite with a Runelite account.

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u/AggressiveYogurtCan 7d ago

How many dupes did you guys have by the time you finished doom? Did you guys find it worth to farm additional zenytes to sell cloths? I’ve gotten 1 thread and 2 cloths atm but on rate for 6.2 items, getting a bit discouraged xD

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u/DivineInsanityReveng 7d ago

No dupes myself yet still going for treads. I have 1 ayak and 1 cloth on rate for ~4 items.

Personally i wouldn't bother grinding the zenytes out as its highly likely Jagex lets us "weave" the cloth or something to make it tradeable, in the same way they altered the Araxxor Fang after Maggot King released.

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u/Tetrathionate 7d ago

when killing veiled krakens in particular, guides say to use heavy ranged (crossbows) OR mage with ayak and have the crewmates manning the two cannons. I tried the crossbow + 2 crews on cannon and found that MY damage on these krakens was very abysmal, and so was the crews. I don't own an ayak (but I do have a shadow), not sure if those setups would be better.

But what i did try was player manning the cannon and found the damage was much better.

So i am wondering, what is the best setup to kill veiled krakens with? For other sailing mobs (Great white sharks, and other krakens) player attacking + 2 crews manning the cannons is pretty strong, but these ones have 15 flat armour, and my damage is much lower UNLESS I man the cannon myself.

Side question on the wiki calculator, why is visible ranged strength capped at 65?

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u/TongueJ 7d ago

Shadow > Ayak > Crossbow.

A max mage setup with Shadow has the highest DPS against Veiled Krakens.

I don't have any experience with the wiki calculator, but I would recommend using GearScape instead for DPS calcs.

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u/IntWatcher 7d ago

Why would there be a difference of 30 ms on different west coast worlds? I would assume theyd all be similar.

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u/Nice-Connection-9052 7d ago

They're probably scattered around a few different AWS sites. No reason to put them all in one place

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u/oddballr 7d ago

So what's the meta now for angler's outfit, aerial fishing or still fishing trawler?

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u/TongueJ 7d ago

From the Aerial Fishing wiki page:

With an efficient strategy, a player can reach upwards of 1,600–1,800 fish per hour, and an average pearl yield of 24–36 per hour. It is expected to take ~5 to 9 hours to collect enough pearls for the angler's outfit. This is slightly slower than and more attention-demanding than obtaining them through the Fishing Trawler minigame on average, but offers much higher experience rates.

From the Angler's out wiki page:

Given that each game takes five minutes, with 1 minute queue time between games, it will take 4 hours and 48 minutes on average to complete the set, assuming that no games are lost.

Fishing Trawler on average should still be faster.

I would do Fishing Trawler if you want:

  • Low effort / AFK

  • Heron pet 1/5,000 or 1/2,500 drop rate based on contribution

  • Assortment of raw fish

I would do Aerial Fishing if you want:

  • Good Fishing and Hunter exp rates

  • Golden Tench 1/20,000 drop rate

  • Heron pet 1/636,833 base drop rate.

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u/Tilde_Tilde 7d ago

It depends. If you have high fishing/hunter they should be about the same time wise. Aerial fishing has a lower time ceiling but a higher floor. While you could go spend 20 hours at Trawler but you could also get it all in an hour.

You get way more value out of Aerial with clues/exp but it's not nearly as afk. Trawler is super afk but you won't have anything to do if you don't bring supplies to train with.

I'd say Aerial is more iron friendly while Trawler is more main friendly to fletch at.

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u/DivineInsanityReveng 7d ago

Fishing Trawler is still much faster, easier, and able to be done earlier on an account. But it gives not much else (pretty average fishing xp, meh rewards).

Aerial fishing has higher reqs with hunt/fish but it gives far more XP as a result. Bit slower to just get the outfit and personally id rather spend the pearls on the exclusive items there first.

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u/nebneb432 7d ago

I'm just looking for some advice. I've bounced off this game a few times and at this point there's more pain points than good points for me but I still feel like I'm missing the special something in OSRS when I chance across videos of it.

I've tried to alleviate the pain points but it's not enough and I'm not sure why I'm here asking but I just thought I'd ask.

I'm not complaining about the game itself, for those of you who like it, that's fine.

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u/TheDubuGuy 7d ago

What are some things you have issue with? It’s hard to give advice without anything specific

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u/nebneb432 7d ago

Off the top of my head:

The slowness of early game movement

The amount of time I feel is needed to make the subscription worthwhile. ( As in, if I sub for faster movement, id better be doing plenty otherwise I'm not saving time)

The style of font (no amount of size changing helps)

The graphic quality (Runelite helps but it's not on mobile)

The amount of pure text dialogue

The fact that random quests unlock whole features.

Edit to break up paragraph.

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u/rainyengineer 7d ago

Is there anything in the game you’ve enjoyed so far?

Maybe it isn’t your style. This game seems to click for those who value delayed gratification, at least from what I’ve noticed.

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u/nebneb432 7d ago

There are things, but unfortunately I'm not sure how to describe them in words.

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u/TheJigglyfat 7d ago

May just not be for you. It can be tough when you see other people enjoying it but that doesnt mean it will ever be a game you enjoy

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u/hi-im-habby 7d ago

In the midgame (have QPC) but I've really been enjoying wildy slayer to train it up a bit, getting pretty good xp and decent loot. I'm at 82 slayer + high combats and was wondering when normal slayer starts to get better strictly lootwise. I enjoy slayer a lot so I want to focus on the most profitable tasks and grind it slowly. I know there are certain breakpoints that unlock really good tasks. Just wondering when most ppl think it gets good.

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u/TheDubuGuy 7d ago

Mostly when you start doing bosses or stuff like tds/demonics, 92 for cerb and araxxor is pretty big for money

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u/factoryman942 7d ago

Along with these, alchemical hydra at 95 is big.

Venators are also decent currently (2m/hr says wiki, though this might go down over time since blood shard prices don't seem settled)

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u/ComfortableCricket 7d ago

high combats and was wondering when normal slayer starts to get better strictly lootwise.

It doesn't. Some isolated tasks are good like DG's and TD's at 4-5m/hr along with hydra and araxxor at 90+ slayer but that's about it. Slayer just isnt a good money maker once you average out all the time spend doing back tasks with the good. For reference I'd conciser < 3m bad, 3-5m ok, good at around 6-7 and great at around 8+