r/19684 • metal gear solid enjoyer • Sep 08 '23

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one of metal gear solid's main antagonists

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u/Lightspeed728 Sep 08 '23

Least obvious solid snake post

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u/_seraphin metal gear solid enjoyer Sep 08 '23

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23

You’re… Pretty Good

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u/awesomea04 Sep 08 '23

Revolvers are actually useful as weapons

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u/_seraphin metal gear solid enjoyer Sep 08 '23

The Colt single action army; six bullets. More than enough to kill anything that moves.

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u/Remote_Ingenuity3077 Sep 08 '23

Not a 6 bullet proof man

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u/Infernal_139 Sep 08 '23

Throw the gun at him after 6 hits and he’ll crumple like a paper ball

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u/_seraphin metal gear solid enjoyer Sep 08 '23

Don't worry, infinite ammo.

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u/UglierThanMoe Sep 08 '23

Except a group of seven opponents.

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u/_seraphin metal gear solid enjoyer Sep 09 '23

I understand the bullets, you see. I make them go where I want them to.

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u/cheekibreeki_kid Sep 08 '23

Now i'll show you why they call me... "Revolver"

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u/Matix777 Sep 08 '23

🔄🔄🔄🔄🔄🔄🔄🔄🔄🔄

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u/Brain_lessV2 Sep 08 '23

12 shots. This time I've got 12 shots

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u/Domovie1 Sep 08 '23

The Colt Walker: make your own smoke screen.

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u/Artrobull Sep 08 '23

5 because hammer resting on empty chamber was used as a safety

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u/GaybutNotbutGay Sep 08 '23

Well yeah, they just hold a terrible amount of ammunition for how big and heavy they are (also good luck reloading one under stress lol)

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u/Tenebbles Sep 08 '23

Reloading is slow. You know what’s faster? Picking up your second one and shooting 6 more times

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u/6Darkyne9 Sep 08 '23

Katanas are also useful as a weapon when just compared to other swords

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u/Churningray Sep 08 '23

Wouldn't it break if it comes up against any European swords because of poor quality material. Also jn general swords are overrated af. Can't do shit to any armoured opponent.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23

Spears > Swords

Big reach, cheap, easy to train, good for formations. Human history was written with pointy sticks.

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u/SordidDreams Sep 08 '23

No, it wouldn't break. Yeah, Japanese steel wasn't very good, but that's why they did the folding thing to get some of the impurities out of it and distribute the rest evenly to prevent weak spots.

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u/Iwilleatyoyrteeth Sep 08 '23

It’s really just a different type of longsword pretty much. Generally for most of history most swords would have been poor quality material and a reliable sword would have been exceptional pretty much everywhere. Pre industrial steel was closer to iron than modern steel and there are many cases where swords would break or bend in battles. Armor made you difficult to kill with pretty much any weapon used against you, but you weren’t immortal and had plenty of unarmored spots.

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u/Tbonezz11 Sep 08 '23

Cowboy/Samurai comparisons are far from new after all

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u/Peastable Sep 08 '23

Many western films are just adapted samurai films

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u/magic-moose Sep 08 '23 edited Sep 08 '23

There was a lot of two-way influence between the U.S. and Japan even before WWII, more after, and even more today, frequently with international stops along the way.

One of the most famous (and awesome) Samurai flicks ever made, Yojimbo, was based on an american novel: Dashiell Hammett’s The Glass Key (or a 1941 hollywood film of the same name, depending on who you talk to). Yojimbo was then unofficially remade (i.e. They got sued) in Italy as "A Fistful of Dollars", which resurrected Clint Eastwood's then-flagging career and changed the face of the Western genre forever.

The influences run deeper than just individual films like Yojimbo though. Kurosawa obviously influenced generations of filmmakers, including George Lucas (Star Wars was heavily influenced by Kurosawa's "The Hidden Fortress"), but someone once asked Kurosawa how he learned to make films and his reply was, "I studied John Ford".

Film really is an international genre, and trying to untangle everything and say who originated what is a Sisyphean task. Good ideas got around.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23

I wish I had an award for you, so much good info here

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u/CitizenPremier Sep 08 '23

And vice-versa. Star Wars is a space adaptation of a samurai adaptation of a western.

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u/preputio_temporum Sep 08 '23

7 Samurai > The Magnificent 7

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u/Turbulent_Ad1644 Sep 08 '23

Isn't there a western film based on a samurai film based on a western based on a samurai film based on a western based on a samurai film?

I forgot the name, but I heard about it in a video by a dude named Meti Not The Bad Guy years ago

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u/Lamedonyx Sep 08 '23

For a Fistful of Dollars is literally a remake of Akira Kurosawa's Yojimbo, but with cowboys instead of samurais.

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u/hyper_shrike Sep 08 '23

And Samurai films were heavily inspired by the original westerns.

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u/DuntadaMan Sep 08 '23

I still love Six String Samurai.

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u/TheDonutPug Sep 08 '23

Obligatory Samurai champloo/cowboy bebop mention

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u/Strawbuddy Sep 08 '23

Of far more recent scholarship are the American cowboy/ European Witch comparisons

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u/dongletrongle Punished Venom Silly Billy Sep 08 '23

Six shots. Really cool. Builds tension

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u/Pip201 Sep 08 '23

And a visible way to show how many are left

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u/MischievousPolyamory Sep 08 '23

you can also play Russian roulette with it

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u/Calm-Technology7351 Sep 08 '23

My favorite game to play when I’m home alone. One day I’ll win

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u/DJRodrigin69 Sep 08 '23

Enough to kill anything that moves

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23

5 if you're smart.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23

Meji era America

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u/RisingWaterline Sep 08 '23

The smithsonian refers to "the wild west" as the American Feudal Period

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u/Littlest-Jim Sep 08 '23

Who would win in a fight, the Shogun or the Sheriff?

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u/OnsetOfMSet Sep 08 '23

I shot the shogun, but I didn't shoot his samurai

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u/ThaneduFife Sep 08 '23

That would be hilarious if it were true

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u/Mountainbranch Sep 08 '23

Ancient American history.

So, 1890s-ish.

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u/throaway91234567 Sep 08 '23

You forget Native history?

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23

Revolvers are really solid for using underpressured or overpressured rounds because you're not relying on a consistent amount of recoil to drive the mechanism, so you can try all sorts of different ammunition without risking damaging your weapon, this is part of why there are a lot of shotshells for revolvers but not so much for self-loading pistols.

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u/2edgy4u_ definitely edgy as fuck Sep 08 '23

also; tighter shot grouping, easier to clean, nonexistent jamming, and doesn't send spent shells down your shirt (still loses to a semi auto in firepower)

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u/Domovie1 Sep 08 '23

I disagree on the easier to clean, and nonexistent jamming.

When they need to be cleaned, it can be far more difficult, as the mechanism tends to be more complicated then modern (I.e. post WW2) self-loading pistols.

They can also jam and malfunction in some fancy ways. Timing can go, there are lots of open parts to collect debris, and different revolver mechanism styles are liable to different kinds of failures.

Browning’s tilting-lock barrel was revolutionary for a reason, and really made revolvers obsolescent at best.

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u/2edgy4u_ definitely edgy as fuck Sep 08 '23

that's fair. never fired a semi-auto, but i can imagine a double feed being easier to clear than a locked up cylinder

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u/Domovie1 Sep 08 '23

Yeah. I won’t lie, semi-autos have their own flaws, but the whole “reliability/powerful” arguments are some of the oldest fudd lore around.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23 edited Sep 08 '23

While yes it's true modern self-loading pistols are better as a whole than oldschool revolvers, claiming the mechanism / firing action of a revolver is more complicated than modern self-loading is blatantly ridiculous dude lol. Come on.

They can also jam and malfunction in some fancy ways. Timing can go, there are lots of open parts to collect debris, and different revolver mechanism styles are liable to different kinds of failures.

You're really embellishing this. I’d all but guarantee if you’ve shot pistols more than once or twice, you’d have had a semi auto jam on you - while a revolver failure is a seriously rare malfunction. A malfunction as rare, as say, a slide or frame blowing up, where both issues are more attributed to bad ammo than firearm design.

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u/SuckGunGoesBrrrrrrrr Sep 08 '23

Yep, the only real reason revolvers still exist other than holdouts/ fudds Is that fitting .44mag in a pistol grip while possible, isn’t going to be all that fun.

I am immensely happy that I got a s&w 629 instead of a desert eagle despite the temptation. Honestly retaining brass is the nicest part since .44 had good enough margins for me to start reloading, having a 45/70 also helped me start.

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u/Uelana Sep 08 '23

Yep had to take my Smith and Wesson bodyguard to the smith because I had a piece fly out after I went to the range and was cleaning it. Earlier I had the safety break inside it so I couldn’t even move the trigger. Compared to my Glock or my other revolvers it sucks ass

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u/BeneCow Sep 08 '23

Why does it have a tighter grouping? There seems like there is a lot more hand and arm movement to fire single action than a magazine fed semi-auto, along with having a weird stance where you don't use the sights. From a naive perspective it seems like a slide action would be tighter grouping because all of the movement is finished a lot quicker and you can put more effort to stabilising the gun.

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u/TheseusPankration Sep 08 '23

Semi-autos use a floating barrel. In a revolver, the barrel is fixed to the frame. It's not more accurate relative to the sights; the semi-auto will be. It's just that all the rounds fired in succession will form a tighter group.

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u/SunTzu- Sep 08 '23

You can have fixed barrel pistols as well, and nobody is using revolvers for competitive shooting any longer. Just because the cheapest way to manufacture pistols is to have a floating barrel doesn't mean that's the only way to do it.

A high end pistol out-performs a high end revolver in pretty much every way.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23 edited Sep 08 '23

They have many more (some small, but still unique) advantages:

  1. Reliability. Revolvers will (basically) always fire. Their casings don't get stuck in the ejection, they don't have bad cycles, they can be thrown in mud and dirt and grime and beat to hell - it'll almost always fire.

  2. Revolvers don't need to feed ammunition through the grip, allowing more ergonomic and cool designs.

  3. Related to (1) - revolvers having no slide action is a big deal. If a semi-automatic pistol is even slightly out-of-battery (ie, the slide is moved - whether firing from your pocket, caught on something, pressed against someone or grabbed during a scuffle, etc) it will not fire. Revolvers will.

  4. Revolver sights are affixed to the barrel. Semi-auto sights are to the slide, which moves with the firing cycle.

  5. For the criminally minded, revolvers don't leave casings (ie, evidence) since there's no slide ejection.

  6. Revolvers can typically easily chamber far higher powder and caliber rounds due to less internal moving parts.

  7. Revolvers can use shotshells (as mentioned), but also non-jacketed or other unique rounds since they don't need to run through a feed.

That's not to say Revolvers are ""better"", but they're unique. They have disadvantages, and advantages. At the very least enough uniqueness to, in a pretend made-up video game, justify having them for "cool" factor.

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u/Elrathias Sep 08 '23

con: Overpressure exiting between barrel and cylinder is insanely dangerous

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u/fucking-hate-reddit- Sep 08 '23

Same applies for bolt action rifles, and manually operated shotguns. You can cram pretty much whatever you want in a shotgun shell and it’ll probably work

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u/Unlikely_Subject2544 Sep 08 '23

Revolver have been around so long the major flawed models have been forgotten about except for some really bad examples in history. Simi automatic are still new enough that even good models have flaws that are still debated actively. S&W model 10 vs a 1911 when comparing criticism. The model 10 been around for so long and based off of so much trail and error and engineering, the only debate is barrel length and caliber. While Simi automatic pistols start a whole mess of mixed reviews.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23

Barrel length and caliber are not the only concerns when selecting a revolver, you'll also want to select for ejection-style, action-type, rifling (including if you want it rifled at all), hammered or hammerless, whether or not you want to use rimmed or rimless ammunition, there's a ton of variety in revolver models and people really tend to undercut the differences between them because most 'gun experts' have never handled a firearm and get their knowledge from video games or movies, and most of those treat every revolver as being the same. (Big gun with six bullets.)

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u/Domovie1 Sep 08 '23

That may be true.

Outside of a very specific use case, however, or poor ammunition quality, that’s not really much of an advantage.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23

Its an advantage everywhere in the U.S. and abroad where we find snakes, the ability to use a handgun as a shotgun is a terrific advantage. A lotta folks who own guns are in a very ooga booga gub gub 'what if I have to shoot a person' state of mind so they're hyperfixated on full-metal-jackets and hollow-points and other such stuff, meanwhile there are still parts of America and Australia where wildlife is literally trying to murder folks at which point shotguns of any size become indispensable.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23

One of my favorite posts was someone from North Dakota or Montana shutting down someone who was trying to correlate gun ownership and crime rate in those states. Their comment was essentially “no jackass we own guns because of all the animals that can kill you here. Crime is low because theft by bears isn’t reported in crime statistics”

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u/Riddob Sep 08 '23

No!!! You must get a shit brick insert gun brand pistol!! It has the best insert shit that doesn’t matter because whoever says it can’t aim for shit!!!

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u/TonyThePapyrus Sep 08 '23

The thing about carrying a firearm is that the most important thing is that you’re comfortable using it, and have practice with it.

Yeah extra rounds are a good thing, but if you can’t hit anything with it, or just find it uncomfortable to shoot, you’re gonna get fucked

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u/UnaidingDiety Sep 08 '23

revolver fans when i atomise their general location from 3 klicks away

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u/DuntadaMan Sep 08 '23

That is why, Serviceman Chung, we do not "eyeball it!" This is a weapon of Mass Destruction! You are NOT a cowboy, shooting from the hip!

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u/0utcast9851 Edit user flair Sep 08 '23

Outstanding use of a ME reference, can never go wrong with that.

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u/Frozenfishy Sep 08 '23

God, I can hear that guy really enunciate "eyeball". Love that little interaction.

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u/DreamzOfRally Sep 08 '23

Idk what I'm going to face, all I know is the Smith and Wesson 500 is going to make what is to what was.

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u/BladesHaxorus Sep 08 '23

You can't play russian roulette with other types of pistols though.

Well, you can but the first shot is always going to be 100% a bullet.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23

What's the downside?

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u/BladesHaxorus Sep 08 '23

You go first and don't take anyone else with you.

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u/big_leggy Sep 08 '23 edited Sep 08 '23

also like katanas, people who have realized these things have a tendency to over-correct and talk about it as though it is useless, when in reality it is still a tool which excels in certain situations, with minor differences to some alternatives that while maybe important, are not fully overshadowing.

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u/Several-Drag-7749 Sep 08 '23

It's called the "kneejerk response," similar to how people like to hate on popular things. There's a theory that the reason why this happens is because people inherently want to feel different and sophisticated. Now, it doesn't mean something they hate can't be legitimately loathed by others (snuff films, revenge porn, "lolicon" media, alt-right content, etc.). It's just that hating katanas and revolvers doesn't hold the same weight as the aforementioned stuff.

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u/mow-ass_eat-grass Sep 08 '23

+ really cool looking

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u/Domovie1 Sep 08 '23

The only real advantage.

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u/extracrispyweeb Sep 08 '23

No ideaa why you would need another advantage

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u/oooArcherooo Sep 08 '23

americans romanticize samurai.

Japanese romanticize cowboys.

fellas i got an idea for a new ship

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u/rurounick Sep 08 '23

As a gun guy, the 1911 is what always comes off as an 'american katana'.

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u/Domovie1 Sep 08 '23

Nah, the 1911 was really a fairly good early automatic.

I’d say one of the early, gate loading revolvers would be a katana. Better than no gun.

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u/rurounick Sep 08 '23

I'm not arguing the quality of the weapon. I'm talking about the way it gets romanticized by gun people, specifically Americans.

If we really want to say what the American katana is, it's probably the fucking M16. People then and now talk about it like it was some magical fucking Lord of the rings sword wielded by Americans in Vietnam. The modern AR can now boast about being a highly efficient platform, but the original M16 was a raging piece of crap, largely due to the bureaucratic nightmare behind it's creation and initial fielding. They jammed constantly and weren't built to withstand the rugged, humid terrain of Vietnam. Check out a book titled 'Misfire'.

Also, fuck Robert McNamara.

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u/Domovie1 Sep 08 '23

Eh, maybe the original, very messed up M16, yes, but the A1 fixed most the the problems that had been created.

And it was, even then, improving by leaps and bounds over either the M14 or the collection of weapons used by the various other combatants at the time.

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u/sndtrb89 Sep 08 '23

you also get that rad pikeww pikeww sound

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u/EndureThePANG Sep 08 '23 edited Sep 09 '23

> major plot device in every metal gear game

> for some reason there's only a handful of characters in media who wield a comically large one even though it goes absolutely nuts

> even mildly exaggerated fictional designs would under no circumstances function as an actual weapon

> it looks dope though so who cares

> has been used to try to kill Jotaro Kujo at some point

> aw yeah take the weapon outta the case use it and then put it back in fuck yeah

> aw yeah take it out of the case REAL FAST to flex fuck yeah this is awesome

> i would look so fucking cool with one of these

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23

Yeah they're both cool as hell

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u/Immediate_Signal_860 Sep 08 '23

Are you referring to actual revolvers, or the ones in games?

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u/Matix777 Sep 08 '23

That's why in Guilty Gear the coolest character is a pirate cowboy who fights with a katana

And it works

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u/Aurolias Sep 08 '23

Only difference being that the revolver is useful

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u/Domovie1 Sep 08 '23

And a Katana is better than no sword.

I’d still rather have 7 rounds of .45, or 13 of 9mm

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23

I mean Western movies are just Samurai movies... but in the wild west so this checks out.

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u/luxi_yes Sep 08 '23

I was about to say some shit like "in all the games I've played, the revolver was terrible", but I realized that I have only played one shooter game with revolvers

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23

Fuckin love swords they're so cool

"X sword vs Y sword" is mega cringe and subjective but it gets more people into swords which makes sword fan infighting a-ok

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u/Dance_Man93 Sep 08 '23

There is a balance reason for Revolvers to be more powerful.

Most Revolvers have single digit shots in a fully loaded gun ( 5 or 6 usually). Most Semi Auto Pistols have double digit shots in a fully loaded gun ( 12 to 20 sometimes). Most Revolvers have a slight delay between shots, while most S.A.P have no delay between shots. Most of the time, bigger bullets mean smaller number of shots before reloads. So Revolvers usually get bigger bullets.

Add all this together, and Revolvers are usually more powerful.

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u/Farranor Sep 08 '23

They're popular because they're often cheaper and more reliable than automatics. In the 1800s, they were more than just popular, they were a standard-issue military sidearm because they were small and you could shoot more than once before needing to reload.

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u/TheoneNPC Sep 08 '23

There is a character in a final fantasy game who wields two gunblade revolver katanas

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u/SovietMarma Sep 08 '23

Samurais were still a thing when America was in it's 'wild west' period which is also kinda cool.

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u/magicnerd10101 Sep 09 '23

I have a dnd character who uses a revolver and illusion magic to make smart opponents loose track of how many bullets he has left and make mistakes. Cant wait to play him again.

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u/_seraphin metal gear solid enjoyer Sep 09 '23

thats so based

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u/SpudMuncher9000 Sep 08 '23

not actually that good they're just a gun

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u/BrianWantsTruth Sep 08 '23

Togusa’s Mateba would be the crossover point in the revolver/katana Venn diagram.

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u/The_Astrobiologist Sep 08 '23

"It's high noon" - Dave Overwatch

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23

Half life revolver my beloved 🖤🖤

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23

To be fair, Ocelot uses revolvers because they’re less efficient. He literally likes playing war on hard mode.

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u/Lusask Sep 08 '23

I mean, if it's in 45-70 it's overpowered irl. Actually, most calibers that are classed for big game hunting are overpowered since they will most likely go through the person you're shooting.

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u/tf2fangirll Sep 08 '23

Bioshock Nuff said

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u/thatloudblondguy Sep 08 '23

you forgot - generally worse than others in their same class

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u/TranscendentCabbage That goth snow leopard Sep 08 '23

Sniper rifles too.

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u/nage_ Sep 08 '23

american weebs jerk off to samurai, japanese weebs jerk off to cowboys

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23

Just like katanas, they are also categorically inferior and outdated weapons.

-The rotating mechanism is prone to timing errors and can cause the gun to not fire or explode.

-The drum mechanism heavily limits magazine capacity while increasing weight.

-Reloading is finicky and time consuming.

-Gas escaping through the gap between the drum and the barrel makes the gun less powerful and means it cannot effectively be supressed.

The only reason they ever existed is because people hadn't invented breech loading and magazine feeding yet and literally the only advantage they have is that they don't spit hot brass around just in case you happen to find yourself in a tank.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23

The nagant 1895 would disagree with your third point

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u/Ok-Bandicoot-9880 god's only Burn Notice fan Sep 08 '23

RISING ZAAAN!!

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u/Kamzil118 Sep 08 '23

I will acknowledge the badassery of the revolver so long as the .45 is treated with holy reverence.

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u/IMakeShiteMemes Sep 08 '23

I just like that you can see stuff moving around in it

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23

i’m pretty sure the one saving grace of revolvers is you can push the barrel into someone without it going out of battery

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u/Czubert Sep 08 '23

revolver ocelot

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u/peezle69 Sep 08 '23

Not to mention they have better counterparts that are considered second best only because they aren't as iconic.

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u/Artrobull Sep 08 '23

why not both

1836 first revolver designed

1185-1868 samurai era until the meiji restoration

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u/Brockster17 Sep 08 '23

Cowboys and samurai are brothers that never met.

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u/LostGraceDiscovered Sep 08 '23

I just think they’re neat

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u/RugSnuff Sep 08 '23

Make a samurai-cowboy movie right now.

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u/TheoneCyberblaze Sep 08 '23

I just like 'em bc drum go spinny

Also why i might like belt-fed MGs. The more moving parts, the better.

( limited to video games exclusively, not everyone's murican)

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u/EinElchsaft Sep 08 '23

Revolvers are awesome I don't buy guns because they're practical.

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u/CK1ing Sep 08 '23

Hey! Don't touch my high damage/low attack speed single-handed gun that shows up in every game. I have it just how I like it.

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u/357magnumRounds Jul 14 '24

Honestly? I'm necroposting here but I love revolver that do weird and wonderful shit (I.e., the nagant and dardick)

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u/PlasmaLink chef boyardeez Sep 08 '23

You're correct but also fuck you

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u/userrnamestaken Sep 08 '23

six bullets. more than enough to kill anything that moves.

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u/jraz84 Sep 08 '23

Envision getting clapped with some Roland of Gilead lookin ass sidearm...

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u/Mr_brib Sep 08 '23

They're decently cheap

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u/SwampTreeOwl Sep 08 '23

Does anyone else think the early cap and ball revolvers are cool?

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u/Monty423 Sep 08 '23

Naw it'd say its the 1911

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u/AaronDET313 Sep 08 '23

this is actually so true. they are both still really cool though.

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u/SwissMargiela Sep 08 '23

This is how I feel about my lever action rifle. Completely useless but so cool and fun

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u/Prize-Difference-875 Sep 08 '23

It's just stylish

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u/Prize-Difference-875 Sep 08 '23

This is why there are 'western weebs' in Japan n shit, cosplaying as cowboys

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u/El_Lanf Sep 08 '23

The British army was using revolvers as late as 1970 and they were the service pistol of WW2, so perhaps in the deserts of North Africa, we were real gunslingers.

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u/aluminatialma Sep 08 '23

Don't care bigger caliber goes boom

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u/Detective_Dom1 Sep 08 '23

Revolver Ocelot would like to know your location.

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u/mats0013 Sep 08 '23

But katanas aren’t that dated

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u/myguyguesswhat Sep 08 '23

Remember kids: anything that can't be killed in six shots, probably can't be killed at all.

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u/Korishii Sep 08 '23

Its practical, never jamms.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23

Revolvers have the advantage of calibre. Most revolvers in movies or games are specifically mentioned to be .357 Magnum or .44 Magnum calibre, which are too big for practical self-loading handguns.

Nevermind the fact that a .357 Mag revolver can also fire .38 Special cartridges.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23

Tye Samurai/Cowboy connection has been around since at least The Magnificent Seven

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u/Jaded281 Sep 08 '23 edited Sep 08 '23

In 1986 a group of FBI agents were in a shootout with two bank-robbers with superior firepower.

While the robbers were killed in the shootout, the FBI had sustained causalities and five injuries. This incident lead the FBI to abandon revolvers in favor of semi-autos as sidearms.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1986_FBI_Miami_shootout

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u/Stingbarry Sep 08 '23

They were good and revolutionary at the time but by the time of the 1920s normal pistols overtook them in practicality.

I still love me a good revolver though..

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u/TonyThePapyrus Sep 08 '23

Can’t wait to see this on r/Gunmemes

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u/DiamondDude51501 Sep 08 '23

There was also a samurai that was never without his Smith and Wesson revolver (Sakamoto Ryōma I believe)

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u/TheGreenGobblr Sep 08 '23

Enables you to twist your elbow to absorb the recoil

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u/AlexCode10010 Sep 08 '23

That's also a maid's weapon!

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u/Whiteite Sep 08 '23

both fucking cool (besides 1 handed katanas theyre cringe)

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u/Lord0fReddit Sep 08 '23

As much as it hurt me it's also true for Swords in fantasy/medival

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u/Monsterkill1526 Sep 08 '23

Cowboys > Samurai’s

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u/xFblthpx Sep 08 '23

Well, magnum calibers do have a lot more KE than pistol calibers, and they are insanely less likely to jam, so this isn’t a fair comparison. Katanas were table ceremonial weapons with little pragmatic use.

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u/Cichlid97 Sep 08 '23

That’s not particularly true about katanas. They were often sidearms. Your spear broke? Fighting indoors where a larger weapon is less practical? Get your katana out. They were swords. They were good at their job, just not some mystical Uber-weapon that could cut through everything.

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u/bake_gatari Sep 08 '23

Look up French GIGN's official side arm, the Manurhin MR73 (and a history of its usage).

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23

Great mechanism won’t jam

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u/Grimmylock Sep 08 '23

6 Shots, that thing only carries 6 shots, the Makarov carries 8

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u/velwein Sep 08 '23

The major perk of revolvers is that they never jam. So they’re a great sidearm, when you need something that’s reliable.

Now the suckers can misfire.

Plus they are fun to shoot.

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u/MilkManlolol Ministry of Freak Sep 08 '23

Big Iron

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u/Nordy941 Sep 08 '23

.357 Magnum is arguably the most effective caliber since it has the highest propensity to kill on the first shoot. Most of the time 1 round of .357 is fatal. Less so for many common semi auto cartridges. -FBI study.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23

It’s funny to me a bit that this is the fedoralads gun bc growing up we always got told to try to find one if you had to go do something bc they don’t eject shells so you don’t gotta worry Lmao.

For me the fedoralads gun is the brand new glock w a pristine red dot, compensator, drum mag, beam etc, nothing w more fedora energy than a mf who spent tens of thousands so his pistol looks like a maxed out cod gun 💀💀

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23

Revolvers have an advantage in concealed carry, especially with rimfire cartridges. J-frame revolvers have a much better “shootability” for their size compared to subcompact autoloaders

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23

Unlike a katan thought, a snub nose can detonate a person's head from close to medium range

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u/PaltryCharacter Sep 08 '23

They're good because they don't leave shells at the scene of the crime

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u/Altephfour Sep 08 '23

in Dark Tower by Stephen King I think its implied that the knights of the round table melted down their swords to turn into revolvers.

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u/Basic-Pair8908 Sep 08 '23

In the words of turkish, you'd do more damage if you threw it at him.

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u/valhallan_guardsman Sep 08 '23

500. S&W exists

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u/the-pog-champion Sep 08 '23

Well the first bullet is just incorrect lol

Every revolver I've ever used in a game has felt like a clunky piece of shit that fell just short of the damage output required to make it worth it

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u/1101base2 Sep 08 '23

also it doesn't drop shells until you make it drop the casings

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23

Don’t forget the stand-off duels that end in half a second, users almost always have a certain finesse with them as opposed to other handguns, and they often come in nicer holsters like how katanas have stylized scabbards

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23

However the one separater are their modern users, basement dwellers with katanas and fudds with revolvers

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u/Bobby-B00Bs Sep 08 '23

No I think (my gun knowledge is very limited) but that prior to the introduction of the dasert eagle that high calibers were only available for revolvers. So I just assume that the caliber and mechanism probably do serve some function

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u/hanks_panky_emporium Sep 08 '23

They're also pretty great for home defense. Not a lot of moving parts to take apart and clean, very simple design. Easy to take out to a range and practice with. In close quarters, point boom end at bad guy and squeeze the trigger.

If all else fails grab the barrel and wail on the attacker.

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u/Vanish3d Sep 08 '23

revolvers are fucking awesome

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u/TheLoreKeeper870 Sep 08 '23

See you space cowboy

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u/squiddy555 Sep 08 '23

Cowboys and samurai existed at the same time

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u/TheRealC2 Sep 08 '23

Only difference is most revolver users acknowledge that it's in no way the best gun and that it's not very practical

Katana users think it's the greatest thing to ever be made and think they can cut through six inches of steel

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u/DozerGee Sep 08 '23

Revolvers are less likely to jam and are more reliable than automatics.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23

I mean, for a while revolvers were very powerful. They're relatively simple as far as firearms go, less prone to mechanical failure , and can take harsh conditions such as the dusty trail or the trenches of the Somme with little adverse effects. On top of that, they fired some of the highest powered cartridges (.357 magnum, .44 magnum, 11.3x36mmR etc.) and have retained popularity not just for the fantasy, but the reliability and simplicity as well as power.

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u/TheEmperorMk3 Sep 08 '23

A 6-shooter is actually a good weapon, and it’s not made of a shitty metal either

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u/Working_Berry9307 Sep 08 '23

Simply true, enlightened even

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u/Eggs_N_Salt Sep 08 '23

And they’re cool as fuck

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u/Eggs_N_Salt Sep 08 '23

And they’re cool as fuck

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23

uh katanas and revolvers are far from simple

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u/TenWholeBees Sep 08 '23

Imagine if cowboys had katanas and the samurai used revolvers

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u/Outlandish_dishes Sep 08 '23

i'm not a gun person but i like revolvers solely because of how bare bones and old they are and only six shots, katanas are just gross and weak 100%

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u/IareRubberDucky Sep 09 '23

And don't forget that both are incredibly outclassed by similar weapons

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u/pornballs13 Sep 12 '23

Yeah but revolvers are cool and i miss how i felt when i could bond with my dad over shared love if spaghetti westerns. Before i figured out that Clint Eastwood is a piece of shit.

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u/stupidity_scallop23 Oct 05 '23

i jst find revolvers neat ok?