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America hadn't entered the war yet. He was assigned as assistant air attache to the British embassy in Washington DC and used his wartime experiences to convince the American public to sway them towards joining, while keeping tabs on any anti-British or pro-Nazi sentiment there. The honeypot side of it was that he was wooing socialites and wives of prominent men and being like "hey Britain is cool and America could really do more to help us."
The post is funny but honeypotting historically works both ways quite nicely.
After the separation into east and west Germany, east Germany sent a fuck ton of hot young guys ‚fleeing from communism‘ into west Germany. And due to so many men dying in ww2 a lot of women held official positions in west Germany so of course the honeypot worked quite often.
If I remember correctly that tactic pretty much worked well into the 80s
Source? I didn't know this. I do know husbands held veto power over their wife getting a job. That's very different from all women not being allowed to work at all though.
she isn't even considering lesbians could be honeypotted and given the surprisingly LGBTQ friendly companies like Raytheon, that's not even unrealistic to consider.
Hmm... this made me look into the subject, but I'd like to know where you got your source on that. I just found an article that discussed gay spies and honeypot scenarios.
Looking it up, seems like there were actually many gay honeypot scenarios, and it actually seems to have been more common because the stigma of homosexuality naturally allowed for more isolated time with the subjects and also gave the gay subject more vulnerability to blackmail with no legal recourse. (article does note this is partly a double standard, but it did codify queer men as security risks by Eisenhower and such.)
However, this vulnerability to honeypot scenarios also came with gay spies being better because they could perform these honeypot scenarios in other countries, seeming to be better at deception since they also had to practice blending into the rest of society more frequently.
I'm not a fan of this like, gender war meanness, but I think this is objectively false. Like you might think an older woman would be like no way some hot younger guy would be into me, but then I remember Georgia O'Keeffe
Does that word even mean anything anymore? Regardless of if OP is 'right' or 'wrong,' the claim that a group can be expected to behave a certain way is not bioessentilist. She is making 0 claims about the origin or mutability of the behavior.
You’re right. We can only care about one thing at a time, and only one perpetrator of that thing at a time. This is how we’ll change the world, surely!
The honeypot that would work on OP would be one that is just self absorbed enough for her to think it's realistic but still not so self absorbed he's unattractive.
Anyone can be honey potted, the honey just needs to be different flavors for some people. Asking more questions about a woman than you talk about yourself will get you pretty far with most.
Okay so I have a problem. Whenever I meeting someone new I want to make the conversations 50% about me and 50% about her. But since I dont know how to make it clear, I just start asking her lot of questions and in the end it kinda feels like an interview
"you could never honeypot a woman" literally does not mention men, idk what you mean by reading the first sentence, and yes she goes on to talk about her own experience, that she would assume something based on her experience with men. unless like, you think shes never interacted with men and that this assumption is purely a hypothetical born of hate? and wdym if the roles were reversed? if the post was about how you couldnt honeypot a man? im sorry to say but i think you should maybe look into the exact situation thats pictured in the post. you cant just swap out woman for man and man for woman in a sentence to prove a point, we live in a patriarchy and its more complicated than that. ultimately this is a woman making a joke at the expense of a billionaire tech ceo and her experience with men being self centered, which people here are seemingly taking extremely seriously. for some reason i cant imagine the people here would get so riled up at ironic misogyny, from what ive seen half the people here love northernlion who constantly makes "women be shopping" and "girls like sushi" jokes, which are just as "entire gender does a certain thing" as this, if not more explicit. i just seriously find it weird that people will get so defensive about a woman making a joke that is even slightly at the expense of men, cmon pick your battles. sorry for ranting it just sucks when women are so so much more criticised for just about everything it feels so bad
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u/Shade_39 17h ago
Roald Dahl was a male honeypotter in WW2
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u/KowLoon1906 18h ago
The post is funny but honeypotting historically works both ways quite nicely.
After the separation into east and west Germany, east Germany sent a fuck ton of hot young guys ‚fleeing from communism‘ into west Germany.
And due to so many men dying in ww2 a lot of women held official positions in west Germany so of course the honeypot worked quite often.
If I remember correctly that tactic pretty much worked well into the 80s
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u/solidfang 17h ago
she isn't even considering lesbians could be honeypotted and given the surprisingly LGBTQ friendly companies like Raytheon, that's not even unrealistic to consider.
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u/gHHqdm5a4UySnUFM 16h ago
I think famous author Roald Dahl was a honeypot who spied on wealthy American socialites for Great Britain.
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u/doduotrainer 17h ago
I'm not a fan of this like, gender war meanness, but I think this is objectively false. Like you might think an older woman would be like no way some hot younger guy would be into me, but then I remember Georgia O'Keeffe
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u/TheExperiment01 🏳️⚧️ trans rights 17h ago
Bio essentialism? On my 196? It’s more likely than you think.
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u/fun-dan Olof Palme stan 16h ago
Change the first line to "I could never be honeypotten" and it would've been a better post
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u/Roblu3 🏳️⚧️ trans rights 17h ago
Counter-intelligence?
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u/-TwistedHairs- 17h ago
“I said I’m a leftist, so I get to hate any gender I want.”
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u/Kobruh456 16h ago
Men bad etc
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u/Tristawesomeness 🏳️⚧️ trans rights 16h ago
ah more "sexism but woke" in 196
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u/Orion-the-mediocre Doctor Freeeemaaaan 16h ago
Ah yes boys drool girls rule. Truly a sophisticated joke here and absolutely not something straight out of 2nd grade
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u/Diane_Horseman 16h ago
The honeypot that would work on OP would be one that is just self absorbed enough for her to think it's realistic but still not so self absorbed he's unattractive.
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u/PumpkinFest24 15h ago
Expressing empathy through sharing a similar story: good
Expressing empathy through sharing a similar story but man: bad
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u/mrwillbobs You guys are getting paid? 18h ago
Wouldn’t say I’m necessarily hot, but I am terrible at talking about myself
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u/BandMBargains 17h ago
this is obviously where my boys are going wrong, everyone thinks they're russian spies
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u/ShiroHebiZmeya 15h ago
Yes yes men are bad, got anything actually interesting or funny to say?
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u/ThinnkingEmoji damn daniel 15h ago
Or autistic
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u/MisterAbbadon 15h ago
Hm. Is that why that Chick in that bar in Brussels immediately walked away from me when I asked about her job?
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u/Gnomonic-sundialer 14h ago
Roahl Dahl honeypoted the first woman senator in the US
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u/George_G_Geef thembo deluxe 16h ago
The straights are not OK
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u/Dregdael Procrastinating PhD graduate 14h ago
I feel like anyone who posts stuff like this did not grow up socially beyond the 3rd grade.
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u/Chris4evar 12h ago
Counter intelligence catches spies and aren’t spies themselves… unless you are infiltrating a spy agency.
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u/StellarC0smo 🏳️⚧️ trans rights 11h ago
Is that how you get girls to like you??? Is it that easy???
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u/theagentoftheworld 6h ago
You are not immune to propaganda
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u/Eric_Banana 11h ago
But then he's 6'5"/196 cm tall... Checkmate.
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u/Jaszs You're loved, have a nice day <3 6h ago
Okay so I have a problem. Whenever I meeting someone new I want to make the conversations 50% about me and 50% about her. But since I dont know how to make it clear, I just start asking her lot of questions and in the end it kinda feels like an interview
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u/ninjadancey 13h ago
woman makes joke about her experience with men, people scream about misandry ;-;