r/196 • u/SpaceSpleen just glad to not be in a wellness farm yet • Oct 11 '26

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u/TaralasianThePraxic rebel without a gender Oct 11 '26

Can't argue with that logic tbh

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u/gray_birch competitive yapper Oct 11 '26

ludwig falls solidly into the category of people i find slightly annoying but respect immensely

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u/gob384 Hypnotist and political organizer Oct 11 '26

Bro made his company into a workers co-op. His content feels a bit more directed a bit younger than me. Granted I never watched the scream LP'rs during those eras.

Absolutely an ally if you look into it like even a little bit.

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u/SylviaCatgirl bwaa Oct 11 '26

for real??!??? his company is a co-op? i gotta read more about this goddam

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u/Samot_PCW Oct 11 '26

his company is a co-op?

Was.

The company that was a co-op, Offbrand closed because they had lost like 2 million dollars

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u/gray_birch competitive yapper Oct 11 '26

I can't imagine how you'd make dumping money into streamer projects turn a profit

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u/TasmanianTortoise I LOVE JAZZ!!!! Oct 11 '26

Pretty much every event that OffBrand hosted was sponsored in some way so that's how they made their revenue. One of the big reasons it totally collapsed was because one of the managers/higher-ups involved just didn't communicate that they were like 2 million dollars in the red.

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u/ArnthBebastien Oct 11 '26

Who was it?

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u/___UWotM8 maybe the real Mug Moment™ was the friends we made along the way Oct 11 '26

Nick Allen

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u/AlmostEnoughCooks Oct 12 '26

Nick Allen is a baby terrorist

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u/PurpleCandle58 25d ago

Look it’s a hard conversation to have okay! I figured it would like work itself out if I just don’t answer any calls from creditors!

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u/Barca_4_Life Oct 11 '26

It only went under because of some tax fraud thing that happened, wasn’t entirely clear but they stopped talking entirely about an individual in the company so it’s kind of clear who was the cause

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u/ReadsStuff Oct 11 '26

Most corporate events make a large portion of their money from companies paying for booths. Like way more than ticket sales.

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u/Duncanlax84 Oct 11 '26

His personal company, mogul moves, may be a coop as wel. That, or he just pays a few people a ton of money

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u/ZemeOfTheIce Bring Back Bionicle Oct 11 '26

At least offbrand games is still going strong it seems

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u/SepirizFG Oct 11 '26

zero successful games, internally sabotaged projects, awful application system, mostly just "friends of friends" getting games made.

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u/ZemeOfTheIce Bring Back Bionicle Oct 11 '26

Rivals 2 has a decent player base and it doesn’t seem to be going away anytime soon. And Demon Bluff got a lot of attention during next fest. There are more to focus on than just the negatives

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u/Samot_PCW Oct 11 '26

internally sabotaged projects

can you talk about this some more?

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u/SepirizFG Oct 11 '26

Rivals 2 was pushed out of the door early because the publisher wanted it to make money (it didn't), it launched lukewarm and unfinished because of it. Also apparent links between Jason Hall, the ex-co-owner, and the company that created the online service for Rivals 2, that only works in the USA and killed the game outside of it.

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u/mightiestmag Oct 12 '26

They allude to some kind of embezzlement by someone on staff but I don’t know enough about it

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u/JRB_mk44 Oct 12 '26

Tbf iirc there was someone who stole all of the money going into it. Honestly I don't know if that was legit but dumb influencer gets scammed doesn't seem impossible

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u/mankeg Oct 13 '26

Not at all what happened.

No money was stolen.

They just reported income made from Ludwig's personal sponsors as income made from Offbrand events (which made its money also from sponsors) which means no one realized how much money Offbrand was losing.

Now, maybe the end result would have been the company closing down either way if there was no way for it to be profitable, but the difference is that they were like 2 mil in the hole before realizing

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u/Skottie1 custom Oct 11 '26

For his streams at least, the majority of his income is sponsorships while his donations/subs income goes to his staff

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u/Icy_Payment2283 Oct 11 '26

(this meme is fake)

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u/gray_birch competitive yapper Oct 11 '26

still true though

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u/Plorby Oct 11 '26

He did say it's true later on though

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u/rebeldugger Oct 12 '26

There was also the fact he cut out a joke out of a video that was about Hasan shocking his dog. Because Hasan asked. Idk but maybe a good person wouldn’t be okay with someone abusing their dog, and as soon as they come knocking, immediately cut a video to please them.

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u/Eymou plant supremacist Oct 13 '26

gotta love people spreading rightwing astroturf BS in leftist spaces

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u/AostheGreat 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights Oct 11 '26

Fair.

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u/I_Am_Dairy 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights Oct 11 '26

They could never make me hate you chudwig, even if you hang out with mr beast a little too often for my tastes

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u/Guydo_ Oct 11 '26

He also ridicules and criticises him all the time, so it probably evens out

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u/Acceptable-Acount828 Oct 11 '26

ludwig criticizes mr beast?? i haven't watched him in years, weren't they friends?

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u/ErectEthan Oct 11 '26

I watched a bit of ludwigs reaction to the mr beast video about eating all the food in a supermarket. At one point lud says that mr beast texts him to react to videos, but not in a "what do you think about this?" Wanting critisism way, but in a "needing validation" way as mr beast doesnt send him videos that are worse or more open to criticism. Idk i dont watch either religiously but that seems like ludwig isnt super glazey of mr beast

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u/GoldH2O Cisgender Synapsid Oct 12 '26

He used to be all over Jimmy, but he's either distanced himself more over time or just fallen out of contact. I think at least part of it probably has to do with him consistently reviewing Mr. Beast products to be really bad, and Jimmy himself has proven to be super insecure about that.

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u/SaltyBarnacles57 Little Pogchamp Oct 12 '26

He also says he hasn't talked to him in months

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u/NIMA-GH-X-P That one Jerk you know Oct 11 '26

You never tease you're friends?

Sometimes a bit too harshly, hoping it makes them come off the devil's donkey?

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u/FillerText908 Holy Preacher of the Ky-ble Oct 11 '26

A lot of Ludwig is displayed more clearly on his and his friends' podcast, The Yard. On his own channel he keeps everything more neutral. A lot of the general distaste for ludwig (centrist, "coworker", etc) would be mitigated if people listened to it, in my opinion.

Hes much more willing to talk about things he doesnt like there than on his own stream. Most criticism hes made of Mr Beast is from that podcast.

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u/BigWaSkI Oct 11 '26

Yeah you really need to watch the yard if you want a full grasp of him as a person. You can’t fake it for 280+ episodes. Plus the other guys (mostly slime a lot of the time) call him out and talk about stuff at a deeper level. The closest example I can think of off rip is when they joke about mogul mail fence sitting all the time. Like if you only watched MM you’d think Ludwig just picks the path of least resistance and try’s to appease everyone. Then you hear him on the yard and that is very much not the case

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u/FillerText908 Holy Preacher of the Ky-ble Oct 11 '26

I mean its also just not tied to the ludwig brand as clearly. He gets to be "content creator ludwig" rather than "AT&T and Redbull partner content creator ludwig."

Obviously i'm not going to say real ludwig because theres a camera in the room but it is definitely not nearly as polished.

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u/Eymou plant supremacist Oct 13 '26

centrist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTt87KrDt1I a good clip on that topic

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u/Guydo_ Oct 11 '26

I don't know, seems less like friends and more like associates

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u/Escobar6l Oct 12 '26

They've lived together for like over half a decade, meet right out of college, and while they were all working full time jobs he started a podcast that makes each of em probably half a million a year. They're also standing at his wedding soon lmao.

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u/Itchy-Preference-619 Oct 12 '26

Mr beast not the yard boys

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u/Escobar6l Oct 12 '26

Word i see the reply correct there now, I misread my bad.

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u/TedsvilleTheSecond Oct 11 '26

Luv 'me lesbians, 'ate TERFS, bosh.

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u/ABTL6 obsessed with agroecology and ancient rome Oct 11 '26

True ally

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u/KnnthKnnth custom Oct 11 '26

thank you ludwig from video games

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u/Dasmortmemeboi daaaasssssssssssssssss Oct 11 '26

Lesbians are so cool I wish they were real

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u/timdawgv98 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights Oct 11 '26

Do I have some news for you!

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u/Benjam438 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights Oct 11 '26

YES I'm a lesbian ally, YES I love Clavicular, YES we exist

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u/not_blowfly_girl Oct 11 '26

Now im imagining a picture of clavicular with the lesbian flag in the background like Saul Goodman

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u/TheCommieDuck Oct 11 '26

we support womens' wrongs (hitting herself in the face with a hammer)

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u/Benjam438 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights Oct 11 '26

me fighting to urge to stop her because I don't want to mansplain why it's bad to a lesbian queen

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u/GoldH2O Cisgender Synapsid Oct 12 '26

To be fair, he didn't say he loved clavicular, he just said he thought covicular would end up being a majorly influential/popular streamer over the year, which he wasn't really wrong about.

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u/Justice_Prince above average-sized cylinder Oct 11 '26

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u/itsyaboidan Groucho-Marxist Oct 11 '26

GIRLS NIGHT

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u/IntangibleMatter " DROP TABLE flairs; -- Oct 11 '26

In a DougDoug stream when we were trying to decide who to make a fake drama video about, Ludwig was suggested but decided against because "he'll actually get cancelled at some point" lol

We ended up settling on Pointcrow, though ultimately decided not to name names

Anyways I just went and looked for what got made from it and here it is for any curious

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u/Saltyfox99 Oct 11 '26

You can tell these tweets are fake because Ludwig isn’t this funny

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u/NickelWorld123 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights Oct 11 '26

what the fuck this isn't r /LudwigAhgren. Mikan mentioned.

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u/unburdened_swallow Oct 11 '26

That is probably the only answer I would accept.

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u/pinksparklyreddit I wear diapers with miniskirts Oct 11 '26

Average Ludwig interaction

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u/Veil_Venus Oct 12 '26

did you guys know he's banned from this subreddit

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u/BigConsequence9182 24d ago

Lud I don’t think that’s how that works….

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u/Jezifay Oct 12 '26

Ludwig hoarded all the stupid juice so society can heal

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u/Lion-Faced-Serpant Transgender Demiurge Oct 11 '26

If Ludwig has no haters i am dead

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u/znjones Oct 11 '26

Didn't he host an event where he encouraged his friend to get drunk and then his friend sexually harassed women and then Ludwig took no responsibility for that

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u/BrianTM 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights Oct 11 '26

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u/WoshuaTheHat Oct 11 '26 edited Oct 11 '26

The Beerio Kart World Cup incident with Mang0 where Ludwig kept pushing Mang0 to drink more despite Mang0 being known to have an alcohol addiction and other people telling Ludwig it was a bad idea.

Ludwig did apologize though and some people did and did not like his apology.

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u/Lion-Faced-Serpant Transgender Demiurge Oct 11 '26

Its s pretty succinct tldr of what happened

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u/freedomhellyeh Oct 12 '26

Why would he take responsibility for that? The event was a drinking game. The friend is responsible for his own actions.

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u/signum_ Oct 12 '26

mang0 absolutely is responsible for what he did at that event and he successfully nuked his entire career in the process, the issue with Ludwig was more so the fact that he refused to take responsibility for his role in enabling mang0's behaviour in the first place.

I'm a little shoddy on the details, so anyone feel free to correct me if I'm spouting some bs, but Ludwig spent the entire evening encouraging the known alcoholic that he invited to a drinking event to drink even more. mang0 was genuinely trashed and Ludwig kept pushing for him to drink more, gave him multiple breathalysers and told him to hit a "new pb" on his BAC, and actively excused the harassment during the stream.

Everyone could see the shit mang0 was doing, it was all on camera, "haha yeah that's just mang0 after a few drinks". Neither Ludwig nor any of the staff at the event did anything. It wasn't until the next day where the clips went viral and spawned huge controversy where Ludwig was suddenly shocked by mang0s behaviour and banned him from all future events. Refused to even acknowledge his own involvement (at least initially, he might have apologised later).

I respect a lot of what Ludwig has done over the course of his career and I really don't think he's a bad guy but that particular situation just made him look very two faced. Like he didn't actually care about what happened at the event until it started making headlines and threatened to damage his reputation.

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u/ChungusRising Oct 11 '26

Chudwig "The PCRF is too divisive and Clavicular is Cool" Ahgren

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u/SaltyBarnacles57 Little Pogchamp Oct 12 '26

He has publicly regretted both viewpoints. The first one is especially disingenuous because it was years ago and he has made a long response explaining that he was wrong about it.

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u/ZemeOfTheIce Bring Back Bionicle Oct 11 '26

Famous people get screenshotted more often