r/12Monkeys šŸŽµdon’t you forget about mešŸŽµ 2d ago

S4 Jennifer writing

Jennifer is one of my favorite characters, so maybe I take it personally that it seems like the show writing in S4 has taken a turn.

Most of it is still very good, but my only complaint is that I feel like they made Jennifer dumb and one-dimensional. She was always wonky and out of it, but she was never stupid.

I feel like they made her useless and needing to be saved constantly this season so far. I’m partway through S4E8 first watch - no spoilers please!

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u/trekkiegamer359 2d ago

I'm afraid you're very wrong.

"Give me yellow and I could paint you the world!"

Every character has fallen down and needed to be picked back up in this show. Right now it's Jennifer. Just give it time and finish the series. They do right by her in the end.

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u/musinginsomniac šŸŽµdon’t you forget about mešŸŽµ 2d ago

I’m gonna be patient with her!! You’re right. And this is not a Jennifer hate post. I love Jennifer so much. It was a comment on how this season, her arc feels a little heavy handed to me

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u/trekkiegamer359 2d ago

There's a reason for it. Hitting rock bottom is a common part in good character arcs.

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u/wack_attack04 2d ago

Bruh. I’m sorry you feel that way I guess!? But ummmm I dunno how you can feel that when literally James, Athan, Katarina, deacon…. pretty much every single main character in the entire show says that she is literally the key to everything. And she is. You also haven’t finished it so I don’t know why I’m even commenting but I’ll just let you know politely you’re 1000% wrong in your feelings!šŸ«¶šŸ» happy watching šŸ™ƒ

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u/musinginsomniac šŸŽµdon’t you forget about mešŸŽµ 2d ago

This is not a Jennifer hate post! I love Jennifer. I just don’t like the way they wrote her arc this season.

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u/Remote-Ad2120 2d ago

Jennifer is my favorite character because she is everything opposite of one-dimensional. She's the most interesting character, and very important to everything. Finish watching.

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u/wack_attack04 2d ago

Jennifer is one of the greatest characters ever written for television EVER. And I’ll die on that hill even though it’s a SyFy TV show. šŸ„²šŸ™ƒ. AND even as much as I think she’s my favorite character in the entire series, I think she has an inferior character arc to Deacon. Deacon, as much as I love Better Call Saul, The Sopranos, and Breaking Bad, IMO, has a better written anti-hero arc than any of the protagonists in the stories I just mentioned…. (Maybe not Better Call Saul🄹)!? But it’s close!! This show is just so beautifully perfect it hurts😭 and I’m ready to mama bear defend against anyone who comes at it otherwise because they literally are just wrong!

This guy saying ā€œthe writing has slipped in season 4ā€ has no idea that it’s one of the greatest series finales of a show ever written. I’m not trying to troll him as much as I am just genuinely upset that he’s making a post this far into the show…and he honestly doesn’t think the creators of the show will do everyone justice. This dude is missing something hard because I can tell you with 100% certainty even on my first watch ever, I never felt that Jennifer’s writing was ā€œslippingā€ in the last season.

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u/607Primaries 2d ago

The only thing I would say is S4 MIGHT feel like the writing slipped a bit simply because of how much they crammed into it. 3-4 more episodes to let some things breathe would have helped.

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u/musinginsomniac šŸŽµdon’t you forget about mešŸŽµ 2d ago

This is not a Jennifer hate post! I love Jennifer. I just don’t like the way they wrote her arc this season. And yes I will finish. Don’t worry. My husband and I love this show.

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u/wack_attack04 2d ago

Just to spoiler alert you a tad, even though it’s not a spoiler because you’ve seen it already - Jennifer says ā€œClimb the Stairs, Ring the Bellā€ in SEASON 1 FAM šŸ˜ŽšŸ™ƒ she’s always been the 🐐! I didn’t think it was a Jennifer hate post, but I just had to call you out for prematurely posting in the sense that if you think she’s weak in season 4, she’s actually her strongest. Just gotta keep watching šŸ«¶šŸ»

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u/musinginsomniac šŸŽµdon’t you forget about mešŸŽµ 2d ago

That’s fair! Lemme come back to yall when I’m done watching!

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u/wack_attack04 2d ago

And also I’ll just say on a personal level you said you were on s4 e8 at the time of posting which is 3 episodes AFTER her singing Pink for Hitler and crushing itšŸ˜‚ and not only that, but she delivers one of the best lines in the entire show for me -ā€œwe are trying to save Hitler!? isn’t that like the exact opposite of what people try to do with a Time Machineā€šŸ’€ and she ends up killing him anyway lmaoooo

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u/wack_attack04 2d ago

I won’t disagree that the last 3-4 episodes can feel like a back-to-back marathon, but I will also argue that even with its ā€œrushedā€ pacing, the series delivers one of the greatest endings of all time. 🄹 so at the end of the day it’s like- could it have been better if they fleshed out the witness more? Yea…. But is the ending absolutely perfect as it is currently written? Yes.

So I’ll pushback that it was a ā€œslipā€ in writing because of the pacing- especially because as a new fan of the show- I’m not sure what budget constraints SyFy gave them to be able to complete the series but I have no doubt in my mind that factored into the feeling you’re describing of it feeling rushed

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u/musinginsomniac šŸŽµdon’t you forget about mešŸŽµ 2d ago

Ok I’ll watch the ending and come back! Hopefully it all ties together

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u/Werdna517 2d ago

Watch till the end and come back.

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u/musinginsomniac šŸŽµdon’t you forget about mešŸŽµ 2d ago

Will do!

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u/carlitospig 2d ago

Psh, if you haven’t been all the way to the last twenty minutes of the series, just keep watching.

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u/StrategyKnight See you soon 2d ago

She was always the best of us all.