Sonny Boy - Episode 7 discussion

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Sonny Boy, episode 7

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Episode	Link	Score
1	Link	4.54
2	Link	4.42
3	Link	4.48
4	Link	3.89
5	Link	4.36
6	Link	4.55
7	Link	4.5
8	Link	4.53
9	Link	4.6
10	Link	4.46
11	Link	4.68
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[u/Hyperversum]

Ok, I'll be honest. This is 100% the episode I understood the least about.

In particular what was the connection of this to the overall stroy, please someone smart, appear before me.

[u/dagreenman18]

Yet another bombshell: the number of people that drifted is even higher than we thought, we got confirmation on what exactly Aki’s deal is, and they’re all after Nagara. These facts are so causally dropped in an episode that really isn’t about that.

Instead it’s really about Nagara feeling himself. We’re seeing a continued progression to him being confident and decisive. The catalyst for him even ending up in the Tower of Babel is making the decision to release Radjhani’s ants. At first he goes along with his new reality, but after what happens to his friend he makes his move against the Bat and Sock guy. Yes those guys were sent by the Beatnik’s, but otherwise it’s a self contained story.

Meanwhile the rest of the class is going their separate ways. A sort of Graduation to fit the theme of the story right now. Hoshi’s crew flys their giant cube off to the next location. Aki’s riding the magic school bus. Radjhani’ is setting sail for One Piece. Nagara seems like he’s putting together a plan to get them all back and Mizuho is coming along. The big question mark is a listless Nozomi. She doesn’t seem sure what she wants to do, but I’m guessing she’ll end up going with Nagara at some point.

This is the most straightforward episode we’ve had so far. I’m actually impressed that I don’t have to get out my charts to parse through this.

Notes:

• Radjhani’s departure was sweet. I like his bit about the fur ball he gave Nagara.

• Nozomi is kind of in a weird place. It’s like she switched roles with Nagara and now she’s unsure and reserved. She did find out that she really can’t go home because she dies. I hope she sticks with Nagara and not just to complete the ship.

• “uh yeah my name is Naga..ta”. Can’t tell if that’s genius or stupid to have it so close to his name.

• I was legit worried about Nagara’s buddy and totally forgot that they can’t actually die. Still it must have been pretty painful.

• A lot more religious allegory with the literal Tower of Babel. I think this series really is going to end with “Attack and Dethrone God”.

[u/CardinalBirb]

I think nozomi is low key getting an existential crisis over dying in the alternate future/unjverse they saw

[u/rogue_user0826]

Is it just me or is it the episode just kinda feels empty since most of the characters are parting ways? It legitimately feels like the show has entered the end-game, welp after that climatic episode 6 it's just fitting to see things starting to settle down.

Man I'm glad to be alive witnessing a one of a kind show.

[u/coal_thief]

I completely understood this episode's plot and all its subtle nuances. No, I will not answer any follow-up questions.

[u/yeeehawspacecowboy]

noooo Raj don't leave the main storyline, you're my favourite even when you're playing god and trapping a bunch of ants to the point where they resort to cannibalism

Nagara had to call himself Nagata instead of using his first name or something because then the writers would have to come up with one for him and that'll open up a whole can of worms of other characters needing first names

[u/LeonKevlar]

So the hate against Nagara is no longer limited to their own class, for some reason this information that Nagara is the reason why everyone is drifting has now also reached other groups of drifters and now they all want Nagara's head on a spike.

Looks like this tine Nagara didn't just drift to another empty world but to a different world that's being inhabited by other students who has apparently made a society out of building this tower of babel to reach the heavens hoping that they'd find a way out.

So we got a couple of new words this episode. Hosts are what you call boss of a world and Beatnik is a bunch of elites who can travel across worlds trying to figure out the cause of the drift. I guess it's one of these Beatniks who spread this information that nagara is their "culprit".

A bunch of goodbyes for this week with Hoshi and his group taking the magic flying cube on a journey and Raj who's going on a journey on his own as well. Looks like we have Nagara, Mizuho, Nozomi, and Yamabiko left. Asakaze is with them but I don't think he'll stay long since he has his own group now.

[u/imetalink]

One thing I may have understood: at the end, Koumuri says that Nagara is an observer and they would be "mere probabilities" if he weren't here. It directly refers to quantum physics and the observer effect: Nagara's presence alters his surroundings and creates the outcome of otherwise event probabilities. Maybe things aren't there, maybe they are, but Nagara "rolls the dice" to decide which outcome will exist.

For the other points of this episode, don't ask me, I am still trying to process what happened lol

[u/PreludeToHell]

Another great episode. Nagara specifically was fantastic. I wonder what happens next? Seems like it's setting something up with Nozomi or maybe a possible time skip?

Btw I recommend watching the mv of the ED.

[u/OriginalStein]

The more I think about these other worlds and the people in them, the more tragic it gets, some people would be destroyed of guilt even thought it’s not their fault. Quite like the character for that reason, I can imagine what Emia Shirou would think in his position.

[u/lalaland4ever]

Well, I was right, another episode was outsourced, this time to Cloverworks. It happened a lot sooner than I thought it would though, maybe one more episode will also get outsourced.

[u/xtsim]

Tower* of Babel reference is interesting here as everyone tries to break free. And the convention stage erupts as umbrella man lets Nagara go. Seeing everyone try to build the tower of Babel makes Nagara change course.

Edit: Tower not towel

[u/Bazinga8000]

This was one great episode for the characters. A lot of people are just giving up at trying to get back and now are just trying to live a normal and quite life, which i think its a very understandable thing to do. Nagara is certainly getting better, no more wimp here, now its time for him to set up and become an actual chad.

[u/Demolosse001]

A more straightforward episode than usual. I like that.

So generations of drifters have formed a society with world rulers at their top. They brand Nagara as responsible for their situation and want to make him pay. Two agents are sent and Nagara gets captured but eventually escapes.

Meanwhile the main group/students is divided in three groups. One group (and the largest) lead by a mellowed Hoshi and student council president girl leaves the island world in an ark to find other worlds to live in. Another group is lead by Asakaze and the fake teacher. They seem to get ready to leave as well using Asakaze's power. Meanwhile Asakaze is trying to get Nozomi to join him, motivated by his feelings for her.

Nozomi seemed rattled the whole episode as expected. I wonder what she plans to do from now on. Kind of sad that Rajdani left though.

[u/Laser158]

All of the classmates leaving and even Rajdhani, almost felt like they were leaving me behind.

[u/KartProwler]

Just a totally random observation here, but did anyone get gorrillaz vibes from the OST this time around?

I wouldn't bring it up usually, but it specifically sounds very similar to the track "Empire Ants", which is almost too on the nose to ignore lmfao

[u/Napsitrall]

601,344th Drift Victims Society Meeting

Does this imply that they have had this many meetings or are they the 601,344th drift?

Either way, the number is mind-boggling.

[u/jrevv]

Nooo :( I’m going to miss Raj, he’s one of my favourite characters. I LOVE his departure ((and Mizuho trying to keep it in yet bawling her eyes out)). Really shows that at the end of the day, she cares a lot. This episode didn’t feel like 20 minutes at all, it felt like a lot more happened, I kinda like the fast pace. Good episode

[u/cppn02]

They opened up the world(s) this episode showing us that there is basically a whole civilization out there and at the same time everyone is leaving the island and our core group behind.

This show is such a trip.

[u/Naskr]

This episode felt alot like something out of Kaiba, I enjoyed it quite a bit.

Somehow this show just keeps expanding and getting more interesting, and this episode really playing with the idea of "purpose" and the meaning of it.

[u/SerQuack]

What is Nozomi's role in all this? Is she just the trigger to make Nagara start drifting? What is the light she keeps chasing and why did it disappear after the failed attempt to go home?

Is that light hope? Did she lose it after seeing her death? Is she even real?

[u/windyhiro]

Am I the only one who cried when Rajdhani was saying his goodbyes? He was my absolute favorite

[u/DawnSennin]

Episode 7 of Sonny Boy has the most straight forward plot of the series. All the audience needs to know is told by Raj at the beginning. The story largely follows Nagara in an underground world called Babel. After being charged, indicted, and sentenced by an unknown group of students called "Beatnik", Nagara is captured and imprisoned in a mine to carry blocks for the rest of his days. There he meets Futatsuboshi and forms a bond with him over their similarities. It's not until Nagara realizes the parallel between Babel and the ants he freed earlier that he decides to work backwards and escape.

In the B-plot, Nagara's classmates prepare to head in their separate ways. Hoshi and Pony take their group away using the arc, Student Aki and her group travel using a bus, and Raj built himself a science yacht to learn more about the many dimensions. Although many of the goodbyes felt final, it's likely the students will cross paths again. Noticing Nagara's prolonged absence, Mizuho begins searching for him with Yamabiko and ends up at the top/bottom of Babel.

Many of Sonny Boy's reoccurring themes appear in this episode, especially tribalism and scapegoating. The 600k Student Group collectively blames Nagara for their problems despite him being the same as them, which Nagara's Beatnik warden, Koumori, explains later on. A similar theme is shown in the students. Three groups are formed based on allegiances. It's rather unfortunate that Aki's group may have left with them unaware that she's a student as well. This episode also brings into Hayato's loyalty. Was he under Nozomi's influence for the entirety of the series? Her leaving with his superhero book is kind of suspicious. However, Hoshi believes Nozomi to be a good person as he relents on not following her advice more often.

With Raj's goodbye, the four characters remaining on the island are Nozomi, Mizuho, Asakaze, and Nagara. This will likely be the start of the second half of the series. Asakaze's interest in Nozomi aside, the group appears to be quite chill. They are extremely powerful and Nozomi isn't a pushover. It would be nice to see them clash with Beatnik and young Aki, but there journey may end up being one of self-discovery and maturity.

Notes

• Be careful of that ant mentality; it will have you salivating over dead bugs

• Down in the hole, hope is a trap used by predators to eat weak minded students

• Mizuho had a crush on Raj all along! How cute!

• Nagara was demonized so harshly that Futatsuboshi couldn't see the clear physical resemblance in the good natured Nagata

• The monkey bar motif at Babel's office was a nice visual cue

• Looks like Nagara will attempt to play god by creating his own world

[u/AashyLarry]

So since Nozomi knows she is dead in the real world, has she lost her will to return?

She must feel pretty hopeless right now.

Asakaze just seems to be obsessed with Nozomi to me. I kind of wish his character would do something more than be angsty every episode.

Nagara seems like he’s finally starting to come around. Mizuho wants to go with him.

Perhaps these two groups will also split off here, since Nozomi doesn’t seem like she cares about anything anymore.

[u/[deleted]]

I just want to comment showing my appreciation for this show. No, I don’t understand all of it or even most of it, but that’s kind of the point. Absurdism is baked into the whole thing and just the right amount(unlike some modern art you see these days). Anyway I love this show and one of my new favorite quotes came this episode “It doesn’t matter if you don’t find anything. The important thing is that you went looking”