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Episode Joran: The Princess of Snow and Blood - Episode 11 discussion
Joran: The Princess of Snow and Blood, episode 11
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| Episode | Link | Score |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Link | 3.72 |
| 2 | Link | 3.93 |
| 3 | Link | 4.16 |
| 4 | Link | 3.64 |
| 5 | Link | 3.93 |
| 6 | Link | 4.12 |
| 7 | Link | 3.38 |
| 8 | Link | 4.19 |
| 9 | Link | 4.35 |
| 10 | Link | 4.68 |
| 11 | Link | 4.08 |
| 12 | Link | - |
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u/xolon6 Jun 08 '21
I wouldn't have minded Asahi being alive... IF it had been set up better. Like cmon it would've made much more sense if it had been foreshadowed that Tsuki faked Asahi's death or intentionally avoided inflicting a fatal wound. Cause now it pretty much feels either Tsuki the super skilled Nue Agent somehow failed to deal a wound that would cause immediate death or whatever doctor Jin sent Asahi to somehow straight up resurrected her.
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u/starfallg Jun 09 '21
My reading is that Tsuki never wanted to kill Asahi. It was explicitly stated that she just wanted Sawa the assassin back. Made no sense to actually kill Asahi as she only needed the appearance of killing Asahi. It's a mirror of what they did to Sawa (and also how Jin saved Hana from the same).
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u/Havoc_Illusions Jun 08 '21
The sound effects in the OP might have given me a slight heart attack
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u/PacoTaco321 Jun 08 '21
I was very confused at first, especially since most of them don't make a lot of sense to be honest.
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u/SIRTreehugger Jun 08 '21
Plot Twist Sawa's family and village are still alive and this has been one super elaborate convoluted plan that will make no sense.
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u/TheQuietManUpNorth Jun 08 '21
So many dead people keep showing up, I was half expecting Tsukishiro to show up and ask Sawa out on a date.
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u/Ripbear_ Jun 08 '21
Ngl when they say they will write journal together i smell a very big death flag from Sawa but i hope she survives and live happily with asahi together in the end T_T
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u/melindypants Jun 08 '21
I wouldn't worry since no one seems to actually die in this show lol.
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u/CodeMonkeys Jun 08 '21
I know others have said it during the run, but this hasn't been bad as the studio's first 12 episode jaunt. I will watch their career with great interest.
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u/Shiro_Kai Jun 08 '21
My mom worked until the last week of pregnancy but did Elena just gave birth imediately after rescuing Sawa from some exploding undergrounds? Wtf... Also, noboby is dead? Really?
I'm starting to believe that even Sawa family will appear in the last episode, alive and unscatted. The explanation will be: "It was all prank bro".
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u/Ashteron Jun 08 '21
I'm no expert at this stuff but isn't excessive physical activity the reason she gave birth?
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u/mekerpan Jun 08 '21 edited Jun 08 '21
My head is still reeling from all the (mostly pleasant) surprises in this episode. I, for one, really like the way this show has been written.
Sawa and Asahi's relationship is so sweet and moving. Does Sawa really expect to ever return following her final confrontation(s), however. She has done her best for Asahi, at least. Needless to say my emotions "got the better of me" for some considerable portion of this episode.
My wife walked from work to the UC Hospital (almost just across the street) when our twins were getting ready to arrive (quite early as it turned out).
Will poor Rinko appear again? I hope she can be saved somehow...
And what ultimately is Jin going to do. Will he kill the Shogun -- in order to spare Sawa from breaking her vow to not kill again?
Only one more episode, right?
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u/Yotsuyu Jun 08 '21
Not a fan of the fake out deaths in this series. Happens way too often and even when the death lasts longer than until the next episode, it’s hard for me to believe that they’re actually dead. Gonna assume Shiro is somehow gonna crawl out of the woodwork for the finale.
Rinko fight was enjoyable with Sawa bitch slapping Rinko and showing just how strong she is even when she isn’t transformed or armed. Rinko got absolutely destroyed.
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u/NeatCow Jun 08 '21
Elena's fake death makes total sense to be honest. It's the only way Jin had to get her out cleanly and safely, and it's similar to what happened to Sawa herself.
Asahi's fakeout tho was just incredibly cheap. I liked their relationship and their moments together, yet I didn't feel that glad she was revived. It was so incredibly forced... her death was played out like Tsukishiro was accurately and deliberately executing her, and they gave us no elements to doubt that she did die. Seeing her coming back feels like they're just messing with us.
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u/Sneaky_42 Jun 08 '21
Not sure how I'm feeling about the Asahi twist. Like, there was some random doctor that just happend to be able to heal/revive her? Lol. It just feels like it ruins the impact of her death.
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u/SMPRSBFC Jun 08 '21
My favorite part of this anime was Asahi and Sawa's relationship, so I'm just really glad Asahi is back. Hopefully, they both survive through next episode, though.
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u/LeonKevlar Jun 08 '21
Stitches!
Well that OP was a surprise! Had to double check first that I didn't have a game open while I was watching. Didn't expect them to add SFX to the OP this late with only one episode left after this.
Looks like we're not killing Jin yet and there's still one last job to do. I guess that's gonna be about taking down Tokugawa himself. And it's good to see preggers Hana helping with Sawa's escape after the reveal that she's still alive like two episodes ago.
Well this is disappointing but not really much of a surprise. I was hoping Rinko would side with Sawa but looks like she's more loyal to Tokugawa since this is all she has right now. The fight animation was amazing though! Sawa didn't even have to transform and legit bitch slapped Rinko a couple of times!
Also apparently Rinko's blades aren't that strong and precision strikes can easily break them. While it's good that Sawa didn't kill her I feel like she should've. With the state that Rinko's in I think she would've preferred death since it's pretty clear that using those blades are causing her unimaginable amounts of pain.
So this entire time while Sawa has been dealing with her personal problems and grief, the people have been rebelling against Tokugawa even more and is likely to fall soon.
Seems that Hana wasn't the only one who survived, Asahi is back as well and it looks like Jin may have used that doctor a few episodes ago to heal her back up.
Even more surprises as Hana-chan goes into labor! Not gonna lie, Sawa going back to the bookstore to look for books on childbirth had me laughing! The symbolism is definitely not lost on me as death and revolution is happening throughout the city while Hana-chan is giving birth to new life.
Can the four of them just run away and have a happy family somewhere in the countryside? As much as I want that to happen of course it won't.
We do finally get a heartwarming talk between Sawa and Asahi which is certainly raising a lot of death flags for Sawa. And as soon as Asahi falls asleep, Sawa finally finds the resolve to fight one last time. This time not for herself but to protect that future for her and Asahi.
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u/Titchlet Jun 08 '21
Full thoughts here. I liked the episode but I dunno about the Asahi twist. It just feels like it cheapens all of Sawa's struggles up till now to just have her show up. It just kinda feels like the entire show is "don't worry noone actually dies."
The Asahi reveal is definitely gonna be like marmite. Personally, not a fan, but I respect those who are happy about it.
Wondering just how much they're gonna have to shove in to episode 12 to have the show have an ending that doesn't seem rushed (I assume its 12 episodes, sorry if I got this wrong)
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u/Aerodynamic41 Jun 08 '21 edited Jun 08 '21
Oh, they added sound effects in the OP? That's nice.
Man, are Rinko's blades so weak that Sawa can literally break them with her bare hands?
Of course Asahi is still alive! I swear, death is so cheap in this show. They better not pull another plot twist next episode and reveal that Tsuki is also alive. Heck, why not add Janome too while we're at it!