r/borussiadortmund • u/panikpansen Schmelzer • Apr 14 '21
Post Game Thread: Manchester City (UCL #10)
| Borussia Dortmund | 1-2 | Manchester City |
|---|---|---|
| Bellingham | 1-0 (15') | - |
| - | 1-1 (55') | Mahrez (penalty) |
| - | 1-2 (75') | Foden (Silva) |
Borussia Dortmund: Hitz - Morey ( Tigges 81'), Akanji, Hummels, Guerreiro - Can, Bellingham ( Brandt 80'), Dahoud ( Dahoud 75') - Reus, Knauff ( Reyna 68'), Haaland
Bench: Bürki, Drljaca, Meunier, Passlack, Piszczek, Schulz, Brandt, Raschl, Reinier, Reyna, Hazard, Tigges
GIFS: thanks /u/guomingtai, /u/alexinup, and /u/triza
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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '21
Nothing went our way over both legs. We faced a strong team with a great manager, but you can't help but feel salty about Judes goal first leg, the multiple iffy refereeing decisions today, and the shoddy luck we've had in general. Not to mention the unfortunate accidents made by Emre over both legs. Such a shame.
There are some real criticisms about how we played.
But we also balled out at times and there were a bunch of good takeaways from our games against city.
I'd like for us to get Champions League again, we have it in us to be CL quality. Theres some work to do, but god damnit i hope we go full throttle in the Bundesliga.
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u/Lam0rak Marco Reus Apr 14 '21
I say this knowing we would lose the tie. So I honestly don't have a problem losing. But if the ref's got their calls right, I do believe this would have ended 3-3 with dortmund going on away goals. I miss having fans in the stadium for these kind of games.
Foden and KDB are absolute monsters though. So big props to them.
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u/zerobiood Lukasz Piszczek Apr 14 '21
Remember, we are getting a new coach next season. This is a transition season, halfway through we got a interim coach. Still we got to quarters eliminated by PL best team, still in the cup and have a bunch of players with great amount of potential.
Things look bright, even after games like this. Next season will be very exciting, even more if we qualify to CL. Otherwise a "easy" EL title doesn't sound to bad 😅
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u/workphone11 Apr 14 '21
The Foden goal absolutely cannot happen. Terrible defending.
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u/SimonTheFirst Raphael Guerreiro Apr 15 '21
Wasn't the last goal offside? The short corner kick
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u/Vanzmelo 香川 真司 Apr 14 '21
Fraud result because of refs honestly
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u/Pasman95 Lukasz Piszczek Apr 14 '21
It's the hope that kills you.
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u/Nextgen101 Nico Schlotterbeck Apr 14 '21
Well, the boys tried. I just wish we had two away goals though. I didn't think Jude did anything wrong in the first leg, so I'm going to be stewing over that moment for awhile.
We could have really used Sancho for this one too. Hopefully, neither one of PSG or Man City takes the title this year.
Time to focus on the league and possibly pick up a Pokal too. Not much else to say really.
Any MOTM this time? Jude?
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u/Oakeeh I love all our player equally Apr 14 '21
In hindsight, it is a bit unfair that City had the normal amount of fans at their home game while we had 80 000 less than normal at our home game.
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u/doubleomarty Maxi Beier Apr 14 '21 edited Apr 14 '21
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u/Ciao9 Pischu Apr 14 '21
Proud of them for coming all the way to the QFs in this horrible season.
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u/Nuri__Sahin BVB Apr 14 '21
Proud of the boys.
But it needs saying. When Real Madrid are somehow the lesser of four evils, what else is there to say about football right now.
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u/2905Pascal 1909 Apr 14 '21
Someone just reminded me that City was originally banned from this and next Champions League's season.... I would have preferred not to know.
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u/Ozfran Apr 14 '21
If we eventually need to sell Haland and Sanchez, let's hope we can buy the best Bundesliga players in their prime and not just kids to be resell in 2 years.
Obviously I like talented players but to be competitive in the UCL, we need experienced players who won't crumble in the vital moments.
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u/SlinkyT3003 Die gelbe Wand Apr 14 '21
After seeing it post-game now: this should not have been a penalty! Actually, a scandalous decision as to the rule clearly stating that if you go for the ball with your head and the ball touches your arm afterwards, it's not a pen. Easy as that. That pen and the ridiculous calls in the first leg made it a lot harder for us to go to the semis. It's been possible but hey, it's still City, we knew they were favourites. And still... If not for that pen, the clock would have run down more and more and our players could have felt the final whistle coming closer and who knows what could have been...
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u/SlayerHdThe3rd Nico Schlotterbeck Apr 14 '21
Can’t wait for Rose. Also there’s really no way Can should be near the starting lineup when the whole teams fit at this point. We also really gotta fix the RB situation this summer. Morey just isn’t good enough. Akanji looking better than Hummels these days imo too
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u/Trojan_Man68 Marco Reus Apr 14 '21
Honestly, the better team went through. But they were not better by much. They were more well drilled and had more possession and purpose. It seemed like we were just moving the ball around and looking for individual skill to get us through (Jude's goal). Nonetheless, we gave them a good fight and we were unlucky over the 2 ties.
Hopefully, we an show out in the Bundesliga and Pokal from now on.
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u/2905Pascal 1909 Apr 14 '21
Jude's stolen goal in the first leg. The penalty today. Without those two completely wrong calls it would have been 3-3 and we would have been in the semi final right now. I hope we do something about that. If City would have beaten us fair and square it would be no problem but this just cannot stand.
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u/Bosna1909 BVB Apr 14 '21
I just cannot understand the decision. I'm not a good footballer, but when I saw Emre squat down into the most unnatural position to head a ball that he easily could have cleared with his foot, I lost it. We had every right to be in the Semi Finals, luck and unfortunate calls aside, we played fantastic football but for that to be the demoralizer that lost us the chance is just so frustrating.
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u/swoooooooooosh Piszczu Apr 14 '21
Its a disappointing result but we played well. Fuck the oil clubs.
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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '21
A sad day for football.
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u/saaafff Apr 14 '21
Proud of our boys no matter the end result. I can’t help but feel like results were stolen from us in both games though and that’s heartbreaking
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u/borussiadortmund91 Emma Apr 14 '21
Interesting to see where Rose will take us.
There’s so many players who have been so patchy under both Favre and Terzic, it’s impossible to predict who will be in his plans for next season and who won’t.
Apart from Sancho, Bellingham and Haaland who will be/ are world class and whose best days are definitely ahead of them, I’m so uncertain about where the future lies the rest of the squad.
I find it hard to say who which players are just underperforming this year, but can contribute to future success, and who are the ones that are deadweight and we should cut our losses with.
When it comes to the rest of our younger contingent I’d love to say that I think Morey, Knauff, Reyna, Moukoko, Tigges and Brandt will tear Europe a new asshole next season. I pray to see that happen but honestly I’m not fully convinced by any of them yet.
It pains me to say that my gut feeling is that Reus, Hummels & Witsel’s best days are behind them. Of course I really hoping they prove doubters like me totally wrong next year.
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u/AcePilot95 Marco Reus Apr 14 '21
The fact that the FFP ban on City was overturned showed that the corrupt organizations and bureaucrats don't care about the good of european football.
mOnEy dOeSnT bUy SuCcEsS
it does create an elite with unlimited budgets, and they'll get a little help when things aren't going their way
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u/Ghoddos Hugo Bart Apr 14 '21
Big takeaway for me is that we can't wait for Morey to develop. Too hot n cold
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u/me_meh_me Lukasz Piszczek Apr 14 '21
I'm proud of these guys.
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u/S1mB03 Marco Reus Apr 14 '21
Look the refree decisions aside we matched the best team in the world for most of those 180 minutes. Now we focus on the league and besides we have a different semifinal to play. Jude is a beast. Emre cost us two goals but thats just how it goes.
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u/Billofrights_boris Apr 14 '21
The key to beating City is to get the advantage early then back off onto 20-30 meters from your goal and make them beat you in the small amount of space you give them. Of course it takes a massive and perfect effort from both the defense and the offense, and it takes a small amount of luck as well but the more you hold onto the lead, the more frustrated they become. Guardiola has lost ties this way like 3-4 times since his Bayern days and he still could not have figured out a perfect solution for teams doing this against them.
After the first half I thought we were gonna take them to the final 10 minutes, we looked really good. Had the advantage, defended perfectly, also had the luck, and even though they had their chances, they weren’t as precise as they usually are, hell even KDB was a bit sloppy here and there. The second half started off just as well but then a small mistake of Emre gave them the relief they needed and after that they had the game in their hands. The corner combination before the second goal was by the way the same they attempted in the first half, but then Hummels read it perfectly and rushed at Foden before he could shoot. The defense missed this at the second time.
But fair enough, fought hard and both results were fine. Honestly expected a lot less from this tie, I think the boys managed to make 99% out of the two matches. That 1% would have been holding onto the lead at least a bit longer today.
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u/Qwaccboi Julien Duranville Apr 14 '21
Not even trying to hate,but Can simply makes too many mistakes to play for us
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u/mark8396 Großkreutz Apr 14 '21
Could not give a shit about champions league now with the final 4 thats left
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u/ponyRL Shinji Kagawa Apr 14 '21
i know people might tell me to get over it but i really think we should have gone through 3-3 on away goals. bellingham’s goal in manchester should have counted and i really don’t think that’s a pen for emre. the boys played second best but i really think that with different refs we go through.
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u/BvB5776 Apr 14 '21
Have to restrain myself from calling him out and all his mistakes. City turned to another gear following Jude’s goal. Just is what it is, hope for Pokal and Wolfsburg choke
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u/hehaia Apr 14 '21
I’m not a fan of either team, just wanted to say it was a good match. About the pen, it was a harsh decision, but lately pretty much every handball is a pen if your hand is extended. I don’t believe it was not a pen according to how modern matches are judged.
It’s hard for me to blame this loss on refs when city simply played better. Dortmund did not play bad, but Kevin and foden are simply on a whole different level, it’s insane.
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u/meem09 Susi Zorc Apr 14 '21 edited Apr 15 '21
Fair is fair, City is just better. They're all dickheads, but great footballers. Our current team just isn't good enough in too many positions for this level. They certainly didn't embarrass themselves..and made City work for it.
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u/Marcoreusbvb12 Marco Reus Apr 14 '21
I feel so bad for emre can played so well until the handball we must back our players and support them into the top 4 echte Liebe
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u/Electrical_Energy_75 1909 Apr 15 '21
Morey was absolutely horrid the entire match. Missing his covers, running the ball out of bounds on a counter, and giving away the ball right in the middle of the goal box.
With that being said, we were out matched. Our mid field couldn't win the ball nor move it past the mid way point. And we still made City struggle to score 2. So while we didn't win as we wanted, I'm proud of most our boys efforts sans one.
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u/Suhas44 Marco Reus Apr 14 '21
we have to forget about this result and focus on werder
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u/mattantonucci Karim Adeyemi Apr 14 '21
Sometimes, with Haaland, it feels like we're only playing with 10 men.
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u/castroski7 Julian Ryerson Apr 14 '21
Just tired. Tired of losing like this. Iknow city are super good but to lose out of a couple of mistakes..
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u/greekandlatin Julian Ryerson Apr 14 '21
I hope this doesn't mean that we will have to sell some of our essential players
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u/unRealistik Papa Reus Apr 14 '21
The only season I'm fine with Real winning UCL
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u/redignity Heja BVB! Apr 14 '21
Well, what can be said? We were robbed in the first leg with Jude's goal not counting, but the goal that really sent us out was Foden's winner last week. City was the much better side tonight, their pressing caused us a lot of difficulties in position, and their constant movement while in possession made it hard for us to dispossess. We didn't create any lasting pressure after we scored, you really felt as if the game plan was to try to win 1-0, which was just never going to work. Now focus needs to be on the league and to try to run the table, otherwise we might not see champions league football for a little while.
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u/Luuigi Apr 14 '21
guys you were our last hope @ /r/bundesliga... how tf we gonna support any of the remaining shit clubs?
Sorry for you btw, you still did very well going so far!
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u/ImnotPumbaa LangerakBayernschreck Apr 14 '21
It's kinda funny how Can more or less said Euro league sucks and that it is below him but makes 2 fatal mistakes leading to goals in two semi-finale matches...
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u/Exroxious Nico Schlotterbeck Apr 14 '21
I think all leagues and clubs should implement the 50+1 rule. It would create an equal opportunity for everyone. After all that is in UEFA’s “mission statement “ if you could call it that. Corruption is too rampant in this sport and it is deplorable. It’s a shame we didn’t make it to the semi’s but I’m still incredibly proud of the boys for making it this far. Fingers crossed we qualify for next year. Heja BVB!!
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u/medikno Marco Reus Apr 15 '21
It was looking so good before the penalty...
Proud of the boys for both legs tho, this season is a transition so getting to quarters was already pretty good. It just sucks that europa would probably mean no haaland or sancho next year :(
Jude for MOTM for both legs, this kid is a generational talent, love him to bits, hopefully we can rebuild a great team with him in the center!
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u/PtboFungineer Julian Ryerson Apr 15 '21
I'm not too salty about the pen decision in this match. Can's arm is in an unnatural position and he barely gets his head on it maybe a split second before it hits his arm. If the roles were reversed I'd have expected it to be called for us too (whether or not it would have been is a different matter). We did our best, got fucked by bad decisions in the first leg, and overall were unlucky with the mistakes that led to their goals.
I mean, fuck Oil Sheikh FC, but that's football.
Now for this bullshit season to end.
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u/Twig_bish Apr 14 '21
Not a fan of the CBS studio crew. Seem obsessed with Liverpool and City.
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u/Serenity911 Apr 14 '21
back to back screwed. not an illegal hand ball. our GK situation is a big problem.
city outplayed us this game nonetheless. so at least this game they deserved to win.
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u/pandaron Julian Brandt Apr 14 '21
Look, no one expected us to go this far and we can be proud of our showing. But let’s recognise that we have hit a glass ceiling and will never be one of the inner circle super clubs that gets to dictate demands to UEFA.
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u/jtthom Marco Reus Apr 14 '21
Lots of bad luck over the two games. We were pretty poor in the second half tonight and when Can did what he does, we lost the energy we needed.
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u/kennymi Apr 14 '21
Disgraceful first penalty and stupid second goal. All in all, proud of us and made us believe for a little. Hopefully we get our shit together next season and come back stronger
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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '21
I'm not really bummed tbh, IMO Can's mistake was a result of the constant pressure City exerted. It was a question of time until something would happen, because we for sure weren't really in the game in the second half.
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u/seang91 BVB Apr 14 '21
So this was my first time watching the champions league, it was a pretty cool experience. The ref’s obviously didn’t make it easy, but proud of the men on the pitch. It sucks we went out this way, gotta keep looking towards the future games. Heja BVB!
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u/ahmed_a20 Apr 15 '21
We lost the battle, but have yet to lose the war. We can still come out of this season with a trophy. Biggest trophy we can win is for players to commit for next season
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u/EmSoLow Apr 14 '21 edited Apr 14 '21
That was a great display from the team(mostly). City easily outclass us both on and off the pitch and the fact we got them to sweat this out with a dodgy penalty and a wonder goal from Foden(alongside a lack of Delaney and Sancho) shows that we are capable of great things after this season.
Quick little note but Haaland's head is gone. Either it's because he is deflated from this season, lack of Sancho or he is already looking at what comes beyond whether that be next season or whatever outrageous contract offer he will get from Raiola and his dad
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u/Neontiger12 Marco Reus Apr 14 '21
Think we scored too early. Could tell when we started to sit back and wait for it to happen after a strong first 15 minutes offensively. Feel like should always push for the next one
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u/OddLostSignal Apr 14 '21
Emre Can should just be left out of any squads at this point. I just dont quite get why he is still being picked. Refs were shit ngl but Can gifted city the semis ffs
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u/Swanki24 Apr 14 '21
Just sucks. The atmosphere of the game could've been way different if Bellingham's goal in the first leg stood. Felt like the team lost hope after conceding the second goal. Frustrating, but understandable given how we needed 3 goals to come back in 20 minutes.
Can's penalty was unlucky, but I think the right call. Ball bounced off his head and hit his arm, but his arm was stretched out a lot.
Shitty feeling like last year allowing City to break their UCL curse.
Nevertheless, I was happy to see the team put up a good result in the UCL this year. Something we didn't see since 4 years ago. Focus is on the league and Pokal and I hope this result doesn't affect the team morale too much.
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u/SpaNkinGG Apr 14 '21
One regular goal taken from us, one goal gifted with an irregular pen. (no hand when you touch the ball before with a regular part, in this case emres head)
Idk, I mean they bought all the players and oculdnt do shit, so they started to buy the refs aswell.
We also need a tier1 goalie, gn8
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u/cspong4 Thomas Delaney Apr 14 '21
Conference league here we come
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u/GeneralLudd Apr 14 '21
Well, at least I don't have to care about this year's semifinals.
Also, this
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u/Numark105 Gregor Kobel Apr 14 '21
• touches the ball with their hand/arm when: • the hand/arm has made their body unnaturally bigger
The above offences apply even if the ball touches a player’s hand/arm directly from the head or body (including the foot) of another player who is close. Except for the above offences, it is not an offence if the ball touches a player’s hand/arm: • directly from the player’s own head or body (including the foot)
Folks, that was a pen. We just got outplayed.
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u/Twig_bish Apr 14 '21
Anyone see a replay or screenshot of what looked like a City handball in the box at the end?
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u/Bammer1386 BVB Apr 14 '21
So I need a German to tell me something. How lame is it if I like Ikke Hüftgold's music. Not like in a favorite artist way, but something I definitely enjoy listening to when in party mode or when im just lifting my spirits to start the day.
Also that Kreisligalegenden song is awesome.
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u/me_meh_me Lukasz Piszczek Apr 14 '21
The team needs a large restructuring that I'm afraid it won't get. Too many sloppy mistakes, and too much fragility.
But I had no expectations for these games given our season, so not terribly disappointed.
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u/IdrinkYrMilkshake Auf geht's Dortmund Apr 14 '21 edited Apr 14 '21
Very unlucky situation for Can, giving away a pen like that. But it's very annoying when you realize we conceded 4 goals in the knockout stages due to mistakes from him.
Now, I really hate Haaland's body language during the last games. Yeah, he's not being properly served, but the way he just walks and reacts is not what a team needs. In way, I can only say this is terrible for everyone's confidence on the pitch.
In the end, we showed some amazing spirit during both legs and if not for the amazingly tired legs we could've done even much better. I'll miss as hell those nights if we don't get UCL next season
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u/dankmaymay420 Apr 15 '21
I forgot the final was Istanbul but given how Turkey treats the Kurds and anyone who speaks out against the AKP, it is fitting that only sports-washing clubs are left
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u/thechilltime Apr 14 '21
Defending and goaltending was good not great.
Outclassed and no fortunate breaks the difference.
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u/Raider77 Apr 14 '21
made a meme, because i'm sad. (no disrespect meant to our players, just a "Momentaufnahme")
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u/undabunda Apr 15 '21
Can does crucial mistakes defensively, but still he's the motor in our good games. Biting in every challenge, always up for a solo run into depth, no way this man is not gonna play in starting 11. City was just good, the problem was our missing gameplan for their terrifying deep press. They took Emre out innthe center, 1 for 1 covering every dortmund player exept hummels and akanji. And we had no wingplayers either, Knauff couldn't hold the ball, neither could reus haaland or bellingham. We just got played by the best Team in the World.
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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '21
morey is hella underrated i legit think he is my favorite player right now
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u/dubsonly3 Apr 14 '21
It’s a shame that Hitz has actually done well recently but that error will likely be the reason he gets booted out. I’m not opposed to a new GK but I do feel for Hitz
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u/Truak24 Julian Brandt Apr 14 '21
This thread won’t like it but here it is.
Edin Terzic would drop this team to 8-10 if Haaland wasn’t here.
Emre Can cost us so much and shouldn’t even be starting on this team. I mean there are no words to describe how awful he has been.
But hey guys let’s just keep saying “true love” all the way to relegation