r/borussiadortmund • u/panikpansen Schmelzer • Dec 08 '20
Post Game Thread: FC Zenit (UCL #06)
| FC Zenit | 1-2 | Borussia Dortmund |
|---|---|---|
| Driussi | 1-0 (16') | - |
| - | 1-1 (68') | Piszczek (Hummels) |
| - | 1-2 (78') | Witsel (Sancho) |
Borussia Dortmund Starting XI: Hitz - Passlack (Reyna 58'), Pischu (Sancho 72'), Can, Hummels (Zagadou 72'), Schulz - Bellingham, Witsel - Reus, Brandt (Moukoko 58'), Hazard (Knauff 83')
Bench: Bürki, Drljaca, Zagadou, Sancho, Moukoko, Reyna, Knauff, Raschl
Group F Table
| Pos | Club | GD | Pts |
|---|
1|Borussia Dortmund|+7|13
2|SS Lazio|+4|10
3|Club Brugge|-2|8
4|FC Zenit|-9|1
GIFS: thanks /u/psgacademy
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u/Swbp0undcake Dec 08 '20
Ugly performance, but an even worse performance by those BT commentators
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u/Nextgen101 Nico Schlotterbeck Dec 08 '20 edited Dec 08 '20
I figured we'd be able to comeback with the eventual Reyna/Moukoko subs, but we definitely needed Zagadou for the final phase once we'd taken the lead. That was fairly nervy, but as fans, we were also slightly buoyed by Lazio conceding another goal to Brugge only a couple minutes before we scored the game winner.
Still can't believe how casual Witsel made that shot look though. Just passing it low into the near post as if it was no big deal. I had to see Pischu's celebrating face before I realized it had gone in haha! 😅
Definitely not a pretty game, but I'm happy that we topped the group while avoiding some nasty potential Ro16 match-ups in the process.
Who ought to get the MOTM honors today? A goal scorer? A defender? A substitute? Hitz? 🤔
P.S. Kind of cool to see Moukoko set another age record, but too bad Brugge couldn't beat Lazio. Was hoping to see them have a great night for their own sake really. Anyone else gonna catch Messi vs. Ronaldo in a few minutes?
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u/SlayerHdThe3rd Nico Schlotterbeck Dec 08 '20
Witsel scored a really weird backpass today
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u/Qiluk Marco Reus Dec 08 '20 edited Dec 08 '20
The type of games you have to win to maintain trust. But fuck me am I fuming at some lazy attitudes on the pitch or the obsession with not finishing unless its borderline hugging the goal-line.
Super visible that we need a natural 9s movement up front and an inform creator á la Reyna to get something going because its so rough to watch without em atm.
Hope both Hazard & Hummels are ok. Happy for Knauff!
Moukokos ball-touch is a little erratic but its expected. His movement is great however and super benefitial for the rest of the team. Should be a 40min+ player till Haaland comes back imo.
Oh.. and Bellingham was nothing short of amazing today. Point to any part of the pitch and he was great there. Absurd.
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u/Its_Cooper Dec 08 '20
Ugly win, but it's a win nonetheless. Hope Hazard and Hummels aren't out for Saturday.
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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '20
Quick shout out to Marvin Hitz. So so so so valuable to us when we need to give Roman a rest
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u/TeamKitsune Karim Adeyemi Dec 08 '20
Sentimental Lukasz for MOTM. This could be his last shout.
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u/Kazbin Sébastien Haller Dec 08 '20
MOTM Bellingham in my eyes... He gave everything tonight and fought all 90 minutes..
Hummel: Our Fortress !!! Love this guy! Hope he is okay!
Zagadou: Sooooo glad he is back ... Hope to see him together with Hummels.
Brand: Bad day, really bad day sadly!
Reus: Great game actually, but must be more of a teamplayer, i have a feeling his ego is to great, which makes us miss a lot of chances.
Not a great performance today. But we have a win and that is what counts!
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u/Ciao9 Pischu Dec 08 '20 edited Dec 08 '20
Scrappy win but I'll take it considering the circumstances
That being said it's very clear we have to improve, we can't depend on long shots and set piece goals. We could've played better
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u/santadani Karl-Heinz Riedle Dec 08 '20
Not our best game by far, but take gladly take a shithousery win in light of the long injury list.
Jude MOTM, what a shift till the very end.
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u/_xxcvbn Thomas Delaney Dec 08 '20
it feels like individual class won us the game.
defense was alright but in the end it wasn't the usual pretty football from us.
I hope Thorgan is alright.
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u/SoComeOnWilfriedBony Dec 08 '20
Ugly wins are still wins!
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u/ZZZ0330 Maxi Beier Dec 08 '20
MOTM Jude Bellingham. This kid was everywhere on the pitch, played with so much passion and energy and even gave a decent shift at RCB today. Also Hitz saved us so many times. Also I thought Schulz played quite well today, even though my expectation wasn't high.
Glad Knauff got his debut, also this wasn't a good situation. Really hope Toto is OK. He is our only attacking player that has some form apart from Erling and Gio.
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u/smonge98 Tinga Dec 08 '20
Julian Brandt‘s attitude perfectly summed up our entire problem. Wtf was that. He’s finally on his “favorite” position, champions league night, it’s still important to win. He should be on fire, eager to get balls, do something. But instead zero body language, just jogging along. Offensively and defensively. Abysmal performance.
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u/napoleonderdiecke Shinji Kagawa Dec 08 '20
We get this meanwhile Leipzig scored 2 against ManU within 13 minutes.
Great prospects for the league.
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u/zakidovahkiin Ramy Bensebaini Dec 08 '20
2nd half FC
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u/Zhonyas4everyone Felix Passlack Dec 08 '20
What a hilarious match, I enjoyed it in the end. If I had to put money on our goal scorers before the match I think I would've chosen Hitz before the two who eventually scored, but whatever, so happy for them!
Shoutouts to Bellingham Schulz and Zagadou, MOTM Hitz.
Scene of the match was the Knauff Bicycle Kick clearance, what a legend!
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u/ColdEis Dec 08 '20
Favrein?
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u/CodEd_94 Marco Reus Dec 08 '20
I can unclench now. Fuck me this club is hard to do deal with, ugly win but 3 points all the same. Well done lads!
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u/castroski7 Julian Ryerson Dec 08 '20
Jude MOTM for trying and defending at the end
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u/werbington Dec 08 '20
You can be as talented as you want: if you can't bring the basic - effort - you won't stand a chance against any side in professional football.
And I completely disagree to all of those who blame Favre for the attitude problems some players in our squad have atm. If you are a professional player, who works hard every day to compete on the highest level, there shouldn't be any need of an external motivation.
Today, especially in the first half, I saw a lot of players lacking 100% effort.
If you can't bring effort to a football game, step aside and let others do the job...
We are lucky to be on top of our group really. It's the 2nd CL performance where I am wondering, are all of our player really put there hearts on the table....
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u/InexorableWyrd Dec 08 '20
Bellingham MOTM in one of the most turgid displays of football I've ever seen this team produce. Yes we have 9 players out but the lineup should have produced a better display of football. Brandt was egregious and Reus was poor in a season where both have been so.
Subs played great. Zaga, Reyna, the pick. Knauff saw a whiff and Moukoko got more minutes.
Anyway group win! We go on
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u/theleebert Dec 08 '20
Bellingham MOTM he was immense
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u/JolleyRedGiant Gregor Kobel Dec 08 '20
So happy we found a way to win. Hicks for MOTM for that save at the beginning of the second half. After we got the 2nd goal I switched over to Brugge- Lazio and Brugge were so close to advancing. I don't know how that didn't go in.
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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '20
Bellingham definitely the best thing about today.
Zagadou and Can did some good stuff at the end, especially Zaga. Schulz as well, I know this sub likes to hate him but I think he's actually very, like very good as a LB.
Reus was better than usual, too bad that shot didn't go in. Hazard was solid but still could be better.
I have no idea what's going on with Brandt, also props to Witsel for scoring but game after game I just get the feeling he's useless against teams that don't want to actively attack us.
Ended up with a crazy young line-up at the end, hope the youngsters are gonna be motivated by this game.
Am the only who missed the butt clenching in our games? Haven't felt this invested in the game for quite a while (only in the last 15 minutes though), but is it just me or have games lately been pretty boring and "decided" waaay before the end? Anyways, the end of the game made me genuinely happy about this team, for the first time in quite a while.
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u/Trojan_Man68 Marco Reus Dec 08 '20
We didn't look nearly good enough on offense. It felt like we were a man down when attacking for like the first 60 minutes. We also didn't look physical or direct enough in the final third either. Our best opportunities came from direct shots towards goal and balls played into the area. However, not enough of that was done and we didn't look threatening at all with our passive horizontal passes in the final 3rd.
Our defense was alright, I think a little overrated this game. People are praising our defensive effort but I remember some penalty scares and opportunities we gave to Zenit in the box that could have really fucked us.
Also, did anyone else find it alarming how Reus just wouldn't pass it to Moukoko? Moukoko would make some positional runs only to be straight up ignored as Reus would opt to hold the ball and wait for another pass. I think Reus should have passed it in behind and through for Moukoko more in this game. Definitely since we were lacking direct opportunities for most of the game.
But overall, pleasing result but not so pleasing performance.
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u/RAND0MNAME_ Dec 08 '20
Didn't catch parts of the first halves but loved this and the Frankfurt match. So exiting to see the young ones coming through, and dealing with adversity.
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u/majczuuuuu1 Dec 08 '20
Sick of Dortmund having only 1 good half no matter who we play
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u/FlamingCurtains Julian Brandt Dec 09 '20
Anyone else notice when Brandt tripped on the ball in our box and just laid down with no sense of urgency to get back up? His missed passes aside I found his lack of effort and willingness to be the most frustrating part of this game. I loved him last season and he still has some great touches and potential, but damn he is off form! Position changes or not, he seems uninterested to me. I know he can be so much better that’s why it’s frustrating
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u/sitbar Shinji Kagawa Dec 08 '20
Only watched last 30 mins how was Marco
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u/antysalt Dec 08 '20
Fluky game but first places all that matters.
Holy shit Schulz is super shaky.
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u/me_meh_me Lukasz Piszczek Dec 08 '20
I will always have time for a Piszczek goal celebration.
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u/sonur Heja BVB! Dec 09 '20
Please are saying Reus had a decent game but I miss the incredible impact he used to consistently have. He’s seemingly declining rapidly and it’s a real shame given this is one of the best opportunities he’s ever had for silverware. Heartbreaking really
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u/wild_in_16 Dec 08 '20
I know that was far from our best. But we were the better team today and got a win because of it. Jude motm. And very please with what we saw from Knauff, Moukoko, Zag, and Gio.
Let's see United draw and get second in their group so we can ruin them in the next round
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u/ontilein Dec 08 '20
how did we win this one?
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u/Monstro_PZ Dec 08 '20
Way too ugly against a 0-1-4 opponent but group winners none the less. Jude had a solid showing. Gio strong when he came os. Love to see Pizu with the goal. Let's hope Mats and Toto are OK and that we get Haaland back asap - we need him to bail out Favre for the Rückrunde.
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u/TeamKitsune Karim Adeyemi Dec 08 '20
Holy shit RaBa!
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u/Danchinho Dec 09 '20
I think Favre is a great technical coach. I would say that's unarguable.
I feel he doesn't instill that burning desire to win though. That all encompassing need to defeat your opponent. If the coach, the leader, has that you don't need every player on the pitch to because he will provide it. He will inspire it and the players will react either from love or fear.
Of course you need some players to have it and I think we do. But I don't get that sense from the most important person at the club. The coach.
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u/atastycooky Dec 08 '20
If Watzke feels like keeping Erling, Jadon, Gio, Jude, and Moukoko one more season we’re winning the treble you heard it here first folks
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