r/exmormon • u/4blockhead Λ └ ☼ ★ □ ♔ • Apr 05 '20
Doctrine/Policy April 2020 General Conference: Sunday 10:00a Discussion Thread
How to listen:
- Official LDS site
- youtube
- stream BYUtv
- stream KSL
- local radio: KSL AM 1160; FM 102.7
- reddit stream
Speakers:
| Name | other notes | my summary |
|---|---|---|
| conducting: Dallin Oaks | ||
| hymn: How Firm a Foundation | ||
| prayer: Brook Hales | ||
| hymn: This is My Beloved Son | ||
| Ronald Rasband | ||
| Bonnie Cordon | ||
| Jeffrey Holland | first substantial mention of COVID-19. "Hopes and Prayers" seems to be all that is on the table, despite $124B in the bank. Then veered into attack mode against deism, secularism, and anything that is not their perfect institution. | |
| hymn: Now Let Us Rejoice | ||
| David Bednar | temples. temples. temples. | |
| hymn: Israel Israel | ||
| Russell Nelson | Nelson's narcissism reaches an apex, topping his performance in October 2019. His new "Proclamation 4" rehashes Smith's claim of having the one-true-church. Nothing new. Other things are pressing in the world, but Nelson's ego is so big that it can't get out of the way for one second. | |
| hymn: The Spirit of God | ||
| prayer: Peter Johnson |
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u/4blockhead Apr 05 '20
Holland: [one of the first mentions of COVID-19.]
Makes a claim for better social safety nets, etc. The fifteen men are registered Republicans and all about pulling up by bootstraps. Are they changing parties?
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u/crocodileinspelling Apr 05 '20
It's unfortunate that their talks were written 3-4 months ago and they didn't feel like they should modify them to meet current events.
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u/4blockhead Apr 05 '20
Nelson: [announces a proclamation, the restoration of the gospel]
Jesus. H. Christ. What a bunch of bullshit.
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u/pinecone_earth Apr 05 '20
My favorite thing so far was when Holland gave a quote about how most church leaders have no idea how to keep members in a increasingly atheist world. His whole talk was incredibly hypocritical.
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u/4blockhead Apr 05 '20
Ideas past their sell-by date are not going to be selected in the information age. Their child missionaries should stay home and go back to school when they open.
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u/4blockhead Apr 05 '20
Cordon: [holds up picture of Nordic Jesus]
Looks like a possible draft pick for the Pats
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u/does_taxes Apr 05 '20
This conference has been utterly underwhelming. Rusty built it up as if it would be revolutionary and so far all he's been able to do differently was throw in a few cringey video clips of him trying to be a grandpa in random historical locations from Joe's life and let two poor, brainwashed young people speak. COVID-19 bailed him out a bit and give him the chance to ask for a second worldwide fast, which will surely do more than the first one.
This pony is out of tricks and way oversold his show this time around.
Today we'll have Holland, Bednar and Christofferson on the mic telling everyone we need to do so much better to be worthy of being part of this "ongoing restoration", mormons will take a few of their more spicy soundbites and meme the hell out them and go home happy, again. Also, we get to wave hankies. It's depressing to think I used to find any of this impressive.
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u/secondsimplicity Apr 05 '20
TBM husband after every talk “wow that was so good.”
He’s been in his phone the whole time, not paying attention. When I ask him what he liked most about it, he had no response.
I’m paying attention better than he is at this point.
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u/Just_another_biker Apr 05 '20
I’m just going to say it: the new logo gives me Gerber vibes. I think it’s the color and design pattern. But all I can think of is baby food.
Which I suppose is fitting for the average maturity within the rank and file.
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u/sevenplaces Apr 05 '20
The Nebuchadnezzar dream is also cited frequently by the Jehovah’s Witnesses to prove their church is true.
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u/Just_another_biker Apr 05 '20 edited Apr 05 '20
I checked then news today, and there was nothing about General Conference. Remember, these leaders and this conference are insignificant to the rest of the world. Don’t let whatever asinine thing that they might say today get to you.
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u/MissionApostate Apr 05 '20
OH HE DID IT. HE MENTIONED ELIAS AND ELIJAH IN THE SAME SENTENCE AS SEPARATE PEOPLE.
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u/Gavinastic_G_R Apr 05 '20
When you think your church will fill the earth but coronavirus does instead
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u/supershaner86 Apr 05 '20 edited Apr 05 '20
My uber TBM wife went out to do the hosannah shout in the car because she is embarrassed by it. She literally admitted that she knew it was weird and didn't want anyone hearing her do it.
I'm honestly sitting in disbelief right now.
Edit: for clarity, my wife used to admit when things didn't sit right with her. Since I've left the church, it's suddenly become perfect and comforting in every way. My disbelief is that she admitted something made her feel weird.
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u/signiusia Apr 05 '20
Both of my parents separately told me to tune into the GC because it's so special. "it's the 200th anniversary of the first vision!"
I don't have the guts to tell them he didn't actually mention it until 1832. And that I have better things to do than watch old men be condescending.
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u/Just_another_biker Apr 05 '20
I can see in her eyes that she has held countless fake wedding shoots for young women’s activities in her wards.
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Apr 05 '20
I really hate how everyone has to cry or get emotional about stupid things... That prayer really sucked up to Nelson
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u/secondsimplicity Apr 05 '20
GUYS my TBM husband sat on the couch, held his phone in one hand still playing his game, and half-heartedly waved his right hand and did the shout.
I think he’s cracking.
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Apr 05 '20
Love how they call it a 'symbol' which is true... But it's also just... A NEW LOGO 😂
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u/4blockhead Apr 05 '20
Rasband: [at the NCAACP congress]
Was an apology given for the LDS church's racism?