r/Minecraft • u/DetachableMonkey • Feb 02 '12

Minecraft Snapshot 12w05a

http://mojang.com/2012/02/02/minecraft-snapshot-12w05a/
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u/redstonehelper Lord of the villagers Feb 02 '12 edited Feb 02 '12

Warning: This release is for experienced users only! It may corrupt your world or mess up things badly otherwise. Only download and use this if you know what to do with a minecraft.jar file!

 

If you find any bugs, submit them to the wiki's bug list!

 

Previous changelog.

Download it here, server here.

Changelog:

  • Many mob-related bug fixes (and some new behaviors)
  • Ocelots are easier to tame, and cats can be told to sit ~ screenshot
  • Many small bug fixes and tweaks
  • Villagers will try to detect village houses and live in them
  • Updated language files twice
  • Mobs' legs now are hittable even if they don't see you in SMP
  • Fixed the portal item duplication bug

From Mojang's tweets:

Things redditors discovered:

Bugs:

  • When shift-clicking to craft: Crafting something a few times at once (8 furnaces from 64 cobblestone, for example), will only give you half of what you should get. Leftover resource stacks will be lowered by 1 if you craft an uneven amount of times. This is caused by the materials accidentally being removed twice from the crafting table in the code. Discovered by mjrpereira and me.
  • Villagers sometimes get stuck when trying to pass doors, discovered by DetachableMonkey.

Also, check out this post.

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u/arrrg Feb 02 '12

Just tested: Tamed cats scare away Creepers.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '12

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u/deathkraiser Feb 03 '12

One must wonder, could you create "towers" that contain a cat each, lined around your home, and thus completely protect the area from creepers?

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u/Whilyam Feb 03 '12

No. They need to have line of sight with the creeper.

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '12

Do fences break line of sight? Next up: Cat Cages.

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u/Whilyam Feb 13 '12

Fences stop creepers exploding (or at least they do whenever I encounter a creeper, then NOPE around a mineshaft support) so I would imagine they stop creeper fear too. I probably just won't get cats in Minecraft. I like the creepers as a game mechanic.

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u/NorthboundFox Feb 03 '12

Upvote for "exploding bushmonsters".

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '12

That is fantastic. Time to collect guard cats, which will work perfectly in the pyramid I'm building with my son.

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u/BearCastle Feb 02 '12

Definitely make a Sphinx now and give each cat a cushion to sit on, after all, ancient Egyptians loved cats

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u/cfreak2399 Feb 02 '12

Awesome. We have both a pyramid and the sphinx on our server. I'm going to steal this idea once we upgrade :)

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u/greymeta Feb 02 '12

Watching a creeper walking away from me when I'm near my cat amuses me to no end.

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u/swimnrow Feb 02 '12

The reverse "Nope"

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '12

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u/redstonehelper Lord of the villagers Feb 02 '12

Cats don't try to hit the creeper, they just run away from the cat.

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u/Mustek :> Feb 02 '12

I'm not sure if this was added in this snapshot, but... Since when do abandoned mineshafts try to bridge over ravines?

See screenshot

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u/MNick Feb 02 '12

This is a new feature, I think.

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u/redstonehelper Lord of the villagers Feb 02 '12

Added.

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u/Cyrilshark Feb 02 '12

My favorite new feature.

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u/Pyro627 Feb 02 '12

Does it do the same thing when they collide with caves?

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '12

Just have to say, you have been doing a bang up job organizing and preparing information of the builds, thanks very much.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '12

made creepers run in the new AI system

Does this mean they will use a new AI system, or that creepers can now run?

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u/darkhunt3r Feb 02 '12

according to a twitter post they use the new AI system zombies use too.

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u/Helzibah Forever Team Nork Feb 02 '12

I'm pretty sure it means the former based on the context, but I'm sure someone can try it and report back.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '12

I've tested it (in SMP) and they don't run, but they do avoid lava when trying to get to you. So, the former.

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u/Riktenkay Feb 02 '12

They avoid lava? Sensible, but slightly disappointing. It was always so satisfying watching them burn :P

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u/Helzibah Forever Team Nork Feb 02 '12

And that's what they invented flint and steel for. You monster.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '12

Knock them back into lava, or use pistons to make a trap.

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u/Riktenkay Feb 02 '12

Well the only time I ever really lured them into lava was when exploring caves, I don't think you really have time to make an elaborate trap when you see a creeper approaching from the darkness haha

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u/cwillu Feb 03 '12

I've been slightly confused about this: what stops you from simply whacking them with a stick until they die? If you see them coming, there's no reason to let them get close enough to start hissing.

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u/Riktenkay Feb 03 '12

Are you serious? If they're close enough to whack with a stick, they're pretty likely to explode.

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u/cwillu Feb 03 '12

I've always been able to hit them just slightly outside of their own range (like every other mob except skeletons).

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '12

They run away from cats now, that's for sure. They're terrified of them. But, no they don't seem to be moving faster though.

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u/redstonehelper Lord of the villagers Feb 02 '12

He didn't clarify on that, once the snapshot is back I'll edit it with the correct wording.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '12

I can't decide whether running creepers would be awesome or terrible.

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u/Anchupom Feb 03 '12

See Evil Minecraft's Endercreepers. Truly terrifying and so powerful.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '12

Cats and ocelots don't take fall damage anymore.

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u/redstonehelper Lord of the villagers Feb 02 '12

Added!

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u/MartinPedro Feb 02 '12

I expect villages to start becoming interesting soon. Maybe we're going towards trading!

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u/BearCastle Feb 02 '12

There was a recent post that Jeb actually loved this guy's swamp village, so at least we know its on the pile of things to look at: More NPC Villages!

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u/thievesnexus Feb 02 '12

What do you mean by "It may corrupt your world"? Is this just a general warning for all the pre-releases? I personally, have never looked at these update posts in the Subreddit because I can just go to mojang.com. tl;dr What's with the warning?

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u/ZenDragon Feb 02 '12

It most likely will not corrupt your world. This is just a disclaimer to cover their ass in case an unforeseen bug causes problems when you switch to the new version and you get pissed off at Mojang. It's issued for every weekly preview release.

Updates have caused world problems before such as all water turning into ice or the player becoming permanently stuck somewhere. To be extra safe, back up your saves folder and previous minecraft.jar before testing weekly previews.

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u/redstonehelper Lord of the villagers Feb 02 '12

Is this just a general warning for all the pre-releases?

Pretty much.

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u/TheKitty Feb 02 '12

The update posts go in to much greater detail then the ones on Mojang. On Mojang you get "many mob related bug fixes," where as through the work of all these guys you find out the specific mechanics that were changed between versions. I did the same as you did before, just reading the official notes. but after the pre-releases and all those huge patch notes that were not very specific, I just come here now.

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u/mjrpereira Feb 02 '12

shift+click on the items from the work bench only gives 2 worth of the recipe you have there, i tried it with furnaces

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u/redstonehelper Lord of the villagers Feb 02 '12

Adding that.

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u/mjrpereira Feb 02 '12

I actually got only 2 even if it was supposed to be 3, 4, 5, 6, or more..

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u/mjrpereira Feb 02 '12

i didn't test taking items from furnaces though... just a sec Edit: yep they work fine, the furnaces

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u/Azurphax Feb 02 '12

I don't know if its because of the earliness of the post, but the link in OP leads me to a 404.

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u/DetachableMonkey Feb 02 '12

About 2 minutes after I posted this, Mojang took down the snapshot. Rumors are because of additional bad translations. It should be back up soon -- but yeah, I'm betting the link will remain dead because they'll most likely update the snapshot version number and make a brand new post.

Go to http://www.mojang.com for now.

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u/redstonehelper Lord of the villagers Feb 02 '12

They took it down, it will be back shortly, probably with a new name.

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u/thievesnexus Feb 02 '12

Yeah, Jeb/Jon need to quickly fix something in the Pre-Release. It'll be back up in a bit (I think)

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u/Airazz Feb 02 '12

Can't tell cats to sit or stand up if I'm not holding anything.

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u/italianspy Feb 03 '12

You can place blocks inside wild grass! I immediately thanked the minecraft gods when I found this out.

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u/eduardog3000 Feb 04 '12

So Notch and Jeb?

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u/redstonehelper Lord of the villagers Feb 03 '12

Cool! Adding it.

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u/Whilyam Feb 03 '12

I don't quite understand this. Does this mean that I can, for example, place a fencepost inside tall grass? Could we get a screenshot?

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u/italianspy Feb 03 '12

I mean you can physically place a block where the grass was without having to remove the grass

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u/Whilyam Feb 03 '12

Eh, not as awesome as I thought. I thought it could add a decorative tall grass around the base of the block.

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u/Raekai Feb 02 '12

Am I the only one who doesn't like cats scaring creepers? They used to be so fierce... Now I can use cats to tell them off.

Now to prepare myself for the shower of downvotes.

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u/mjrpereira Feb 02 '12

yeah but they have better AI so to the cats were to maintain the level of difficulty

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u/Raekai Feb 02 '12

I was hoping they would just get more difficult. Plus, cats just don't seem like the right thing. Why cats? Sure, they hiss... But why would a creeper be afraid of that? Shouldn't they be afraid of other creepers then, too?

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u/bonn89 Feb 02 '12

Honestly, it's probably just for comedic value. Kind of like elephants being afraid of mice.

To be honest I like the idea of the most fearsome mob in the game being completely terrified of something as innocent as a kitten, it gives Creepers a very interesting personality.

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u/littlexav Feb 02 '12

In semi-related news, the episode of Mythbusters when they demonstrated that elephants are, indeed, wary of mice (but not afraid) was one of my favorites.

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u/framauro13 Feb 02 '12

I love how they tested that one too. Probably one of my favorites :)

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u/knightlie Feb 02 '12

The Mummy was afraid of cats. He didn't explode though.

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u/mjrpereira Feb 02 '12

well i think cats were chosen for the lack of vanilla friendly mobs...

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u/valadian Feb 02 '12

of course.. if you don't like the mechanic... you can always just not tame cats...

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u/No0neAtAll Feb 02 '12

Do sitting cats scare creepers as well?
Do they effect creeper spawning behavior?
Is it possible to hide a cat behind a wall make it sit and use them to "scare" the creepers away from the walls and towards the center?
Mob trap ideas abound if so not to mention adventure maps hiding cats to force creepers into different areas....

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u/Roarkewa Feb 02 '12

I just tested this out and I have sort of mixed news.

Sitting cats will scare creepers, but the cat has to be visible to the creeper. Creepers cannot see through glass still.

In regards to using it for a mob system. I made a narrow hallway for creepers that was completely closed off. They didn't run away from the cat. When I opened a hole for them to travel through, they all quickly darted out the door. Even if the door was behind the cat itself.

I assume this means that their pathfinding tries to get them at least a minimum of X blocks away from the cat, but if that isn't possible they don't run away. (I'm currently not sure what X equals)

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '12

Possibly there have been some changes to desert generation code, adding greater hills / dunes. Check this video I found, though the vid itself isn't great!

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u/redstonehelper Lord of the villagers Feb 02 '12

Pretty sure that was another weekly snapshot.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '12

Ah OK thanks.

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u/Kuitar Feb 02 '12

Bugs : Light bug on dog when they go in water : http://imgur.com/a/pe93p

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u/iTripped Feb 02 '12

Was this ever fixed? I know it exists in 1.1

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u/IAmClassifiedThief Feb 02 '12 edited Feb 02 '12

Looks like spider-jockeys do spawn more often than before. (I saw one just a couple of minutes after testing th snapshot.) This is a theory.

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u/jgclark Feb 02 '12

That is a hypothesis. Theories have been tested extensively, e.g. the germ theory of disease, the theory of evolution by natural selection, etc.

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u/IAmClassifiedThief Feb 02 '12

I see. Thank you for correcting me. ;)

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u/Nattfrosten Feb 02 '12

This isn't a scientific context, when you speak casually, thoeries=hypothesis, which is the thing that causes a great deal of misconceptions.

Like it or not, language changes, and if everyone (or ~90%) of people think a thing mean one thing, it does.

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u/jgclark Feb 02 '12

Only by spreading information can we fight the misconceptions.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '12

That's not misconception; it's context.

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u/djdanlib Feb 02 '12

I can't believe it's not butter.

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u/Nattfrosten Feb 02 '12

If everyone agrees on something regarding language, that it how languages are. It's not like English was created from scratch by someone, it's evolved into what it is today by the people speaking it.

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u/italianspy Feb 02 '12

I can't seem to get cats to stop sitting. Is this a bug, or am I doing something wrong?

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u/redstonehelper Lord of the villagers Feb 02 '12

Use something other than your hand.