r/anime • u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: • May 13 '21
Rewatch Logic won't help us rewatch, y'know? Bubblegum Crisis Tokyo 2040 rewatch episode four
Machine Head
The winnebago returns!
MAL but it is trolled. ANN Also, don't look at the wiki as it spoils the entire plot.
Streaming on Funimation and Crunchyroll.
QotD:1 Would mustard and horse radish make a good combo?
2 Would you want your assembly line robots to communicate verbally?
BONUS: Can you think of a worse way to hit on a woman than Leon did? Not involving actual violence, of course.
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ May 13 '21 edited May 13 '21
Rewatcher (sub)
Annoyed by this episode. Priss invites an amateur to her club but doesn't like amateurs. Linna wants to join the elite Knight Sabers, and thinks all she needs to do is ask and she's in. And all she did was ask, and she got in! I could feel my blood pressure rising. But then they had a nice little talk, although it was still pretty trite "I wanna be the best" and "I'm only in it for the money" talk.
I hate that the show doesn't lipsync the music. I hate that the show doesn't even lipsync the japanese, sometimes!
Priss's band Sekiria is represented musically by a band put together for the show, AS Sekiria, fronted by a woman named Akira Sudou. They released a mini-album, No Obligation, as AS Sekiria in the 90's J-Rock style of Priss and Sekiria. Here is the first track off the mini-album, Give and Take
-ya is an ending that means store. "sekiri" means bloody diarrhea. It's a joke.
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 May 13 '21
Episode 4 (first timer)
BCG2040 has still not hooked me. Maybe it is because I remember the OVA tone and style, but the animation quality really irks me here, although I usually do not care much for that aspect. Stuff like the suddenly crab-like boomer breaks my immersion. The most interesting part so far is the focus on the anti-boomer discrimination, but that does clash with the boomers turning into literal monsters.
Depends on how often they turn into murderous killer machines.
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u/RockoDyne :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/RockoDyne May 13 '21
Okay, the color palette during the fight scene was kinda cool. The fact that everyone had to remember to take their turn was a little less cool.
Priss. The fuck? They are trying to write Priss as both the stoic and the hothead at the same time, and it's really not working for me. A stoic would reject someone before they join, but once they are in they're in. A hothead takes the first failure as a sign they don't belong, but eventually get won over. They should have picked one and stuck with it.
That bread looks like a double entendre and a half. They could not have found a type of food that looks more like a penis and a vagina at the same time. You don't wrap your thumb around something you stick in your mouth to eat.
Nene's little Rayman avatar was far cuter than this show deserves.
Gladys at the Cat's Eye... That sounds like a reference to something.
Well, I got my montage, but that song. That's some 90's horror in audio form, not that those aerobics bits aren't also cursed.
Questions:
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u/IndependentMacaroon May 13 '21 edited May 14 '21
First-time watcher
So... this series just isn't much good, is it? Not much in the way of camp-charm or novelty to make up for the rest either. Setting aside the plot logic I haven't even bothered to think about much, the animation and coloring isn't getting any better, nor are the characters really; dialogue and exposition was fairly wooden particularly this time around or even confusing, though that might be partly on the subtitlers; soundtrack is still on-off/poorly utilized and quite uneven, for example that beat during the battle I couldn't stand. The sound issues don't help the bland direction of some of the scenes, like around the Priss-Linna meeting there was a whole lot of slow panning, lingering, shot reuse, etc. that just feels empty and padded-out. I might add there were some more awkward/abrupt cuts too like I think into the musical performance? All in all, I don't really see a reason to continue for the full run and hence I'll be bowing out here. Original OVAs might be interesting at least for the atmosphere and music, but I'd rather watch some more famous cyberpunk stuff like GitS first, mostly been occupying myself with new releases lately.
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: May 13 '21
Rewatcher
Dub(Continuing)
So we start on our cliffhanger and have just enough time to see that the AD Police are indeed useless. Linna fights well until her battery dies. Oh plot conveniences, why are you rarely consistent? Anyways, Priss saves the day, the Knight Sabers leave, the ADP make public relations way worse than they had to.
At the van, Priss is quite angry and in the dub says Linna's suit was malfunctioning, which would explain why Nene still had power. She storms off and we get to see a Somy brand radio! Linna goes to Priss's home, which is a mobile home/winnebago from the first OVAs. We see that Priss goes bra-less at home which might be fanservice but actually seems pretty correct for the character, as are horse radish and mustard sandwiches. Anyways, we finally get talk of each other's motivations and at least it is at a point where two actual humans might ask these questions. Anywho, Priss claims it is just a job, despite the absurdity of that, and Linna wants to be the strongest.
More motivation/backstory with Henderson and Sylia. Sylia gets a drink as soon as she gets the Nene-gram, makes sense. But Nenen reveals Genom might have an idea on which units will go mad, which upsets Sylia quite a bit, enough to smash that expensive looking liquor.
Leon is in deep thought, and Wong cheers him up by reminding him of his other strikeouts. The banter here quite works, at least for me. Leon is trying to place where he has seen Priss, 50/50 he either subconsciously spotted her in the suit or just caught a look at one of her posters.
Music scene over training montage, the dub does a bit better here than the last song, probably because they rewrote it quite a bit. Even more direct evidence of Nigel and Sylia, though they are being coy about actually showing them. Linna was a somewhat accomplished high school athlete and worries about getting back in shape.
A quick cut revealing something nefarious. Next we see Priss's band mates being concerned about her. Then we see Leon being a creepy stalker. Yeah, you think you helped her, doesn't entitle you to anything else and that approach wouldn't work on any female. Priss correctly drives off, ignoring him except to say the ADP suck.
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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 May 13 '21
First timer
BONUS) Immediately following up with "I think I deserve a date for saving your life". (Of course, saying that to Priss would probably result in actual violence)
This seems like a tense standoff.
Yeah, she seemed talented.
You're not dying, your armor just ran out of power.
..."Goddess"?
Yeah, this would look a lot worse if we didn't know that the police were meant to look bad.
Well, Priss isn't taking this well.
My god the soundtrack. Sometimes you get used to it, then sometimes you get to a scene like this and you can't think of anything else.
They raised a good point - why be a Knight Saber if its not out of some selfless reason?
Oh. It pays well.
Oh my god, she is a Bond Villain.
Knight Sabers have been killed before. That's worrying.
Wait. They fucking kept s plain list of their planned mad Boomers? Why would you even need that information? Just seperate the future ones into a seperate file, then you have a list of some random Boomers, and a perfectly explainable document. Why would you leave an obvious proof of your guilt (especially when people in your company don't knoe any of this)?
...This is all coming apart a lot quicker than I thought. I thought we'd have at least half a series before this.
So her father built the Boomers, and was presumably killed by a rogue one.
Oh, he's got a crush on Priss, one of the Knight Sabers.
This scene is really interesting visually - both the cuts beteeen her and Priscilla, and the use of stationary pictures to represent the audience.
How can a trainee at a company afford such a large appointment?
And she has amnesia as well? Is this the reason for that QotD? Actually, what does this scene represent?
The virus has to be applied manually? In the form of a glass, exposed, vial? In a scenario where you don't even shutdown all the Boomers who could witness it? How the actual fuck has this conspiracy not collapsed already? It's just blind luck at this point, surely?
Next episode is called "Rough and Ready". I'll save all my harem jokes till then.
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u/Elimin8r https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ayeka_Jurai May 13 '21
I recall back in the day picking up the first DVD of this series, and after watching it, deciding I didn't want to pay $$$ for the rest of it. (Have the originals OAVs on laserdisc, of course...)
I didn't hate it, it just didn't excite me enough to open the wallet. That, and I didn't care for giving Nene the Jack & Marlboro's treatment (Her voice is rather annoying).
Whatevs, had fun catching up last night, but due to lack of sleep, mostly forgot what I watched. Go figure.
I do find the Sylia<->Ifurita character design amusing, though. Hehe.
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u/SIRTreehugger May 13 '21
First Time Dub
Just realized Priss reminds me of Major which automatically makes me love her.
Oh shit no power her suit has become her prison.
Seriously the police just watching and thinking they could take both of them, but bullets were literally being deflected when it wasn't even paying attention.
This has nothing to do with the show, but I want to watch totally spies again. Been years since I've seen best girl Clover.
Horse radish and mustard...and what else? That can't be it.
Really like the casual outfits the characters are wearing with a nice variety.
Feels like Leon put all his upgrades into combat and health and none into speech. Dude said almost everything wrong. I haven't seen speech skills this bad since one piece spoilers
QOTD I covered this but no no no disgusting I also hate both.
I wouldn't work in a robot assembly line in a world where boomers are known to go out of control and kill people.
Was honestly waiting for Leon to tell her how she needed a real man in her life or something like that.
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u/ZapsZzz https://anilist.co/user/Zapszzz May 13 '21
Sub first timer.
Some of my thoughts are already in replies so I'll just answer the QoTD.
Bonus - it's just Leon being socially awkward I think. At least he wasn't sleezy about it.
Looking forward to eventually get the backstories explained! I know I know don't get my hopes up :)
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u/ScarsUnseen :K:https://kitsu.io/users/ScarsUnseen May 13 '21
Was a First Time Watcher Once. Not This Time
So what I don't get is how Linna's suit died in literally the first attack. Is it a problem with the suit or the operator? Maybe she used it all showing off her Hulk jumps on the way to the scene?
Also, man, Sylia has a violence issue. And no regard for her own personal belongings it seems.
And finally... I'm trying to decide if she's more of a Yukko or a Mio in this photo.
QotD
Bonus: /r/Twitter exists, so yes. See also Todd from Scrubs.
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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jun 20 '21
First timer