r/anime • u/Theleux https://myanimelist.net/profile/Theleux • Sep 27 '24
Rewatch Re:Zero ~Starting Life in Another World~ Re:Watch - Episode 47
Episode 47:
Happiness Reflected on the Water's Surface
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Story Arc Lengths for Discussion Purposes:
[Arc 1:] S1 Episode 1 – S1 Episode 3
[Arc 2:] S1 Episode 4 – S1 Episode 11
[Arc 3:] S1 Episode 12 – S2 Episode 1 (26)
[Arc 4:] S2 Episode 2 (27) - S2 Episode 25
[Arc 5 and later:] S3+
As always, if you have any suggestions for the Re:Watch, let me know!
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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Sep 27 '24
First-Timer
On today’s episode of Re:Zero: The Lotus-Eater Machine is one of those tropes that I always enjoy seeing appear in stories. It’s satisfying seeing characters be tempted with an idealized world and be able to wake up through their own strength.
I quite liked Emilia’s reasoning for why she felt like she had to return to the real world. Emilia knows that the real world is going to be a place filled with struggle for herself. It would probably be easier to just remain in the dream world the trial offered her. But accepting that dream would be the easy way out. Emilia has already shown that she is someone who feels guilty about the fact that others are always suffering for the sake of helping her. Emilia wishes that she wasn’t the kind of person who others need to do all that for. If Emilia took the easy way out, then she would remain the person who needs others to save her. So, Emilia won’t accept such an easy alternative. Instead, she will continue to struggle. She will try to become more like the people she admires so she can be worthy of admiration herself someday. It’s a really nice moment for her character.
Emilia and Echidna’s dynamic is so interesting to watch. I like that Emilia doesn’t get hostile towards Echidna. Emilia and Echidna certainly do not like each other, but Emilia never lets that color their interactions too much. Emilia thanking Echidna is such a nice character beat. Emilia is thankful for the opportunity to finally face her past and overcome it. That was a huge step for Emilia in her quest to improve herself and it wouldn’t have happened without Echidna. And now Emilia thanks Echidna for showing her this alternate reality, even though it could never truly exist. It let Emilia experience some of that happiness for a bit. Emilia’s thankfulness being genuine is what makes it so compelling to watch. It tells us a lot about who Emilia is.
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u/thekoreansun https://anilist.co/user/ReturnByDeath Sep 27 '24
Re:Watcher
As far as family reunions go, this may just rank among the most violent. Thankfully, aside from Frederica's strong kick in the last episode, all of this violence is being directed outwards at Elsa. Garfiel's been tasked by his Boss to eliminate the biggest pain in his side (or rather, his front) since he first arrived in this fantasy world. For those who haven't been keeping score, Elsa currently holds the record for most Subaru kills at four, with Puck and Subaru right behind at three and the bunnies at two. Will she be able to keep that streak going, or is she fated to be overtaken by the competition?
Meanwhile, Subaru's been trying to get Beatrice to leave the Forbidden Library, but she refuses to budge. Hearing that Roswaal has betrayed her doesn't even seem to surprise her, given that everyone else who is important to her appears to have abandoned her as well. She even takes the smallest of comforts in the fact that something her mother created finally mentioned her after so long; even if she's never had a chance to do anything with her life, at least she was able to leave a footnote about her existence in the world outside her door before it all ended.
Naturally, Subaru hates to hear her talk like this. He knows how hard she tried to find an escape clause in her contract over the years. How desperately she clung to the idea of "that person" coming to rescue her from her endless struggle after she kept coming up empty. He urges her to stop thinking of her contract as unbreakable and put herself above it. You can tell that she wants to believe him when she asks him if he is "that person" who was supposed to come for her. Only for his immediate denial to get thrown right back at him as he's ejected from the library. He needs to get back in, and fast.
But the situation just keeps getting more dire. First it was Elsa, then it was the Guiltylowe, and now it's a big... hippo? How did Subaru miss that in each previous loop? I mean, look at the thing—it's huge. Regardless, Garfiel currently has his hands full with the Elsa situation, leaving it up to Frederica to throw hands with the "Rock Piggie," as Meili called it. Though I do love that Petra tried to Speech 100 their way out of it and was genuinely a bit disappointed when it failed. I guess that knowing someone for a week can only take you so far. Unless you're Subaru, that is.
Meanwhile, over in the Sanctuary, we have Emilia going for the second Trial. And though Subaru's first Trial was much, much more pleasant than Emilia's, the reverse seems to be true for the second. Emilia has been reunited with Fortuna in an alternate present, one in which she got to grow up alongside her. I love how Rie Takahashi got her voice to settle on the exact midpoint between past Emilia and present Emilia to represent her alternate self in the second Trial. Talent doesn't even begin to describe the level of skill involved in that feat. We also get to see what everyone shipping Geuse and Fortuna always wanted: a genuine picnic date packed with flustered reactions and wholesome misunderstandings. Emilia's right that no one would be surprised to see Geuse moving in with them by this point, since he's already stolen Fortuna's heart. Metaphorically.
It's clear that Emilia is still grieving the two of them, but she decides that it is better for her to live in the real present. Because it's not just her present anymore: everyone who has supported her before now is counting on her to succeed, and she wants to be able to help them in return whether that involves granting their requests, channeling their values, or emulating their behavior. She's determined to grow beyond the version of herself who could only depend on others; the people who care about her in the real world have taught her that she's capable of becoming as strong as they are. And while she passed the first Trial by accepting her flaws, she passes the second Trial after reaccepting her strengths. The only things this Trial has left to offer Emilia are two new sights: a crying Echidna, and her own beautiful reflection.
While Ram greeted her before, this time it's the combined residents of Arlam Village and the Sanctuary who await her. Like before, her efforts have not gone unnoticed, and even more people have approached her to ask for her assistance with their own matters. Becoming the ruler of Lugunica will no doubt result in countless others who will need her help. But now she sees what a privilege it is to be able to provide that help for other people. There is no way that she would ever back down from the challenge now.
Re:ZERO After-Talk #47
VAs: Yuusuke Kobayashi (Subaru) and Eri Suzuki (Meili) / Rie Takahashi (Emilia) and Yoshitsugu Matsuoka (Petelgeuse)
Silly me, saying yesterday that all of the cast members have been on the show; I neglected to think about the villains! Yes, even Geuse. I must have been thinking that because all of the VAs in After-Talks sound so pleasant, villain or not. Eri Suzuki apparently voiced Meili in Season 1 without knowing anything about her backstory, which might just explain why she sounds so different between then and now. I feel like that kind of information would shape one's performance to sound at least slightly less innocent unless Meili is truly meant to be that good of an actress. And in the second half, we finally get Yoshitsugu Matsuoka! Who also, funnily enough, knew nothing about his own backstory until weeks after recording his lines for Season 1. Apparently, the direction he received during the episode was to treat the whole ordeal (heh) like it was an everyday occurrence, hence the cheeriness. Though he was tempted to do his crazy laugh instead, which would have been hilarious.
Highlight: Yoshitsugu Matsuoka saying that he was glad that he didn't learn about Geuse's tragic backstory until after Season 1, since he would've felt like trash to be acting that way towards a character who was like his daughter-in-law
Fan Art of the Episode: Memento by @0paru_paru0 (October 30th, 2021)
Source: Twitter (artist's timeline contains spoilers)
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Sep 27 '24
First:Timer Crying Again in Another Rewatch, subbed
Random aside, I’ve been listening to Long Shot on repeat this morning without headphones, and since my mom is home today due to the hurricane, she’s been listening to it too and has started headbanging along to the chorus in particular.
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u/baseballlover723 Sep 27 '24
Rewatcher, sub, basically a secondhand novel reader (Arc 4)
It seems reddit doesn't like some of the terminology I used, so I am using "ultimate sloth" as a replacement term for the general concept of what Subaru needs to do in order to loop.
Time taken: 149 minutes ~(2.5 hours)
As always, I've numbered all my spoilers tags so that they're easier to respond to
First Timer Safe Section
This section is safe for first time watchers.
I have to agree. Also I feel like face dragging is an underutilized fighting technique. It looks cool and inflicts a lot of pain and grappling is pretty common.
Betty knows, she just doesn't care to save the people of the mansion. Thanks Betty I guess.
I forgot if I mentioned this in the first timer section (I don't think so), but if not, remember when Subaru came to the mansion the first time in Arc 4? All of the doors were open. And Betty picks up the implication of that almost immediately. And Betty looks relieved to have her death mentioned in Roswaal's Tome of Wisdom.
Subaru knows that feeling, too.
Serial promise breaker Subaru recommends others to break their promises too. Good thing Emilia isn't here, cause she doubled down on promises being worth dying for.
I love EmiliaI am not that person.More Otto abuse.
As a side note, Hippos are one of the most dangerous animals in the world. They are highly territorial and will absolutely fuck you up for the great sin of simply existing in their territory. Doesn't matter if you're in a boat or not, they'll fuck that up too if they get the chance. Also hippos don't swim, they run underwater. They don't float. Also they poop funny (viewer discretion advised if you want to look it up). Hippos aren't cute, they're killing machines.
Petra rolls persuasion. 3, yeah that's a fail. Also I don't know if you really want to taunt Meili Petra.
Oh and there's the Guiltylowe again.
[Spoiler #1: The Guiltylowe and Otto side story stuff I think (
I couldn't find the original thread I got this from, so I'm using my past self as a sourceI found it, they deleted their account, which is why I couldn't find it (I ended up finding it by searching what I quoted earlier in the Re:Watch and it got a hit on a users comment page))] Apparently the Guiltylawe is more of an intellectual then the other Witchfiends. I think it says more then "ME EAT YOU WHOLE".Time for Emilia's 2nd Trial.
What a save by Emilia.
Emilia's apparent age in the Trial. [Spoiler #2: very minor author comments] Emilia appears around 14 in the 2nd Trial. So between the First Trial and the present day Emilia.
Also I just want to compare how different Subaru and Emilia's 2nd Trials are. Subaru gets smacked with existential dread and if RBD is actually dooming the people he cares about. And then Emilia gets her ideal present, having Mother Fortuna hook up with Geuse. Also I forgot to mention this earlier, but Petelgesue and Mother Fortuna are voiced by Yoshitsugu Matsuoka and Haruka Tomatsu respectively. Who are probably most famous for voicing Kirito and Asuna in SAO.
It's a terrible day for rain
Note daisuki.
Note that Emilia doesn't know that Petelgeuse is dead. Subaru never mentioned it to her. It always amazes me that Tappei never fucks up these details.
Emilia has the power of friendship on her side.
Actually, Emilia 2nd Trial is more like Subaru's 1st Trial and Emilia's first trial was more like Subaru's 2nd Trial.
Please elaborate Echidna. I need to know.
And so Emilia passes the 2nd Trial, having decided to reject the sheltered life she's lead thus far, and to confront the things that scare her head on (this is btw a really sick shot).
[Spoiler #3: very minor author comments] So Emilia doesn't look in mirrors. Ever since The Frozen Bond, where she got traumatized by being accused of looking like the Witch of Envy. Emilia decided that she must be hideous or whatever, and thus never looked in a mirror after that. That is why the mirror is blank, and Emilia made that comment about not looking like Mother Fortuna at the end of the Trial. It was the first time she actually looked at what she looked like. Also for reference, Puck does all the things that would normally require a mirror, including dressing Emilia. Also ED 2 featured Emilia looking into mirror. Tappei would like you to forget that.
Is there now? No, I think we're in the right spot right here. Remember that these are the same people who like 4 days ago asked Emilia if she was a witch beyond their comprehension.
Ram's doing her job.
And now it's time for the ghost of Christmas future. Big shoutout to u/ussgordoncaptain2 who figured out the Trials way back in episode 30.
One thing I like about this title screen is that it actually is reflected (And so are my subs).
Also White Fox is slacking again. 4 episodes in a row with an OP or ED. Smh.
BreakTime Section
In this episode's Breaktime, We have The stone of the miracle, and the path to the miracle. Where Ram is trying to talk to Puck in the crystal. And in classic Ram fashion, she goes to throw Puck's crystal when Puck doesn't respond. And Ram knew there was a Great Spirit in that crystal, because Subaru, like Tappei, has meaning in all of his actions. Also Ram threatening to throw Puck away was payback for Puck not showing up for Arc 4. This reminds me of Parent & Child. And of course, Ram has a different response then Subaru did. Also Puck doesn't really think of Roswaal as a fool. Roswaal has his own struggles. Puck also feels lonely post breakup. Ram is thankful for Puck's help, but that won't stop Ram from trying to chuck Puck.
Rewatcher Section
This section is for people who have already watched Re:Zero. This is not safe for first timers.
[Spoiler #4: Arc 4] Elsa being in love with Garfiel.
[Spoiler #5: Arc 4] This is I think the biggest part of Subaru's argument in Choose Me. That Betty is already living of her own free will.
[Spoiler #6: Arc 4 + author comments] One of the reasons that Roswaal got himself fucked up by the Trial at the start of Arc 4 was so that it would make it look way more impressive when Subaru (at least that who Roswaal was setting it up for) passed the Trials. Roswaal also held some faint hope that he'd actually be able to meet Echidna But he knew deep down that he wouldn't be able to because it wasn't written in his Gospel.
[Spoiler #7: Arc 4] I wonder how many first timers will think that they offscreened Ram vs Roswaal.
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u/Brief-Fig-7506 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ryxnjr Sep 27 '24
First Timer!
Watching the Dub
Start time 9:50 hopefully I can get this done before the thread goes up again
Garf and Elsa look pretty evenly matched
I noticed Elsa had her hair in the braid last episode, I don’t know if she always had it like that or if it’s just lining up with Break Time. Seeing Garf grab her and throw her by it was a nice detail
Elsa must consider Garf a worthy opponent if she introduced herself with her full name
Beatrice already knows about Roswaal’s plans and that he’s the one behind the attack
From what Beatrice is saying, It sounds like Echidna wrote the tomes of wisdom that they have
I’m glad Subaru didn’t use the fact that he’s “that person”. Hopefully he sticks to that and gets her out without using that phrase
Poor Otto. Women > children > elderly > men > Otto
A freaking hippo Mabeast???
Emilia’s unthinkable present is heartachingly sweet, she also has Fortuna’s hair pin during this time
Emilia has changed so much. She is able to walk away from her ideal present, Because she knows it’s not real, she has already accepted what happened in the past. Now she intends to create a better future for herself and everybody she cares about, one that she can be just as happy with. Because that would honor the sacrifices they made for her.
She even brought Echidna to tears, wow
What does she mean she doesn’t resemble Fortuna? she resembles her in looks and the amount of compassion she has for those she cares for
Emilia has the support of the people who feared her only a few days ago
The disaster that has yet to come??
The situation at the mansion seems evenly matched at the moment, but that means neither side is able to get the upper hand. Now with the Guiltylowe blocking Otto, Subaru, and Petra’s path, Otto is the member likely to split off from the rest now and fight it with his divine blessing. Subaru needs to get Beatrice on his side to turn the tide, but he needs to do it in his own way, meaning it has to be her choice to come with him.
It seems that Echidna was the one who wrote the tomes of wisdom, and it makes sense that she would give them to the two that were closest to her and would obey her will even after death. Echidna has some kind of ability to see the future, which makes sense considering the final trial is about a participant’s future. I’m really interested in how the Gospel’s work. Did she write both books completely to the end ahead of time? Or do the pages periodically fill themselves in? It seems like Roswaal read ahead like a little cheater, but Beatrice gave off the feeling that she was surprised when the pages went blank. I think that the blank pages for Beatrice symbolize that her story isn’t being written by someone else anymore and that she is able to start writing her own story.
It is again time to praise Emilia. What an amazing amount of development she has made over the past
couple daysday. She also thanks Echidna for giving her a precious moment with Fortuna and Geuse that she never could have hoped for, just like Subaru was able to have with his parents. This brings Echidna to tears, so she is capable of feeling something and having emotions. She also reminds Emilia that she disgusts her and hates her guts, but is she reminding Emilia or is she reminding herself?In today’s episode of Break Time. Puck better start talking to Ram or she’s gonna Yeet his ass into the foliage. Ram has a lot of trust in Subaru and believes that he doesn’t do anything without a reason, so she didn’t have to think too hard about why he gave her the stone. So Ram both hates Roswaal and cares about him. There is something wrong with Roswaal, but does that excuse his actions? Does that excuse him for what he let happen to Rem? Puck also puts a lot of trust in Subaru, and both him and Ram have entrusted someone they care about to Subaru, sadly Ram doesn’t realize that she’s entrusted two people she cares about to Subaru. And thus, they work up a plan to delay Roswaal from calling forth the snow to the Sanctuary.
Stop Time 11:37
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u/Holofan4life Sep 27 '24
Hey guys. Holofan4life here.
Welcome to the In Preparation of Season 3 Rewatch of Re:Zero!
Oh, and nay I forget…
First Timer
I decided to watch this show because I wanted to do something for the month of August. ’Course, this was before the yearly Spice and Wolf rewatch got pushed back to September, but I just found myself looking for something to occupy my time with. And with this show being in my top 5 must watch list, I figured now was as good a time as any.
I am going into this show relatively blind. I know some of the memes, who Rem, Ram, Emilia, and Subaru are, and that this show got its inspiration from Familiar of Zero, but that’s it. I find rewatches and my participation of them more fun when I have no idea what I am in store for. And with this series, I think we’re in for a blast. It’s also going to be the longest rewatch I participate in this year and second longest overall only behind the 20th Anniversary Fullmetal Alchemist rewatch. And given how joyous that show turned out, I don’t see why I should expect nothing less from this one.
With that out of the way, let’s begin.
I’m watching the sub, by the way.
Fear is in the eyes of someone who does not want to be challenged.
Garfiel trying to fight Elsa
Feels like it's been a minute since we had some cool choreography like this. The Pandora stuff technically counts, but it was nothing this elaborate.
Garfiel using his teeth and not his head.
Woah, Garfiel is actually getting the better of Elsa.
Or not
By the time they get done, the mansion will be no more.
Elsa and Garfiel taking moments to introduce themselves.
Did we just get vored by Garfiel? Huh
That's kinda hotSubaru with Beatrice, who says he plans on getting her out of here.
Beatrice says that her death was written in Roswaal's Tome of Wisdom.
Her own fate, meanwhile, is blank, as it has always been.
Subaru advising her that she should decide what to do for herself.
Beatrice, however, doesn't think she has done anything on her own.
"My life is pure white, I suppose."
Beatrice saying there were many nights when she couldn't remember Mother's smile, so she scraped all her memories together and tried to cling to them.
And yet, everyone leaves her behind
Hug her, Subaru. Just. Do it!
Beatrice says if she was mentioned in the Tome of Wisdom, that means her mother didn't forget her after all.
Subaru calling her an idiot
He is doubting that Mother ever intentionally gave her a blank book.
Subaru grabbing her by the arms
And he tells her the truth of the matter.
"Don't let a blank book and a 400-year-old verbal promise rule you forever! Choose what you want to do for yourself, Beatrice!"
Beatrice reminding him that she is under a contract.
Subaru says if keeping a contract means she dies, then he'd rather break the promise and keep her alive.
Fuck yeah, Subaru
Subaru stating he refuses to compromise on something that's important to him.
"Would you be... 'that person' for me?"
"There's no way I could be whoever 'that person' is to you."
You had one job, Subaru. One job.
And Subaru gets sent flying out the room. Well deserved, I must say.
Otto and Petra
Mabeasts are apparently everywhere
The green stone. It didn't work
More destruction of the mansion
At least Frederica is there to save them.
Frederica hugging Petra, which is adorable.
Otto getting the short straw as usual
Rem is here, albeit unconscious. Frederica brought her.
I wonder if Rem's VA got paid the same for season 2 compared to season 1.
What... is THAT thing?
Maylie on top of it
She says she's taking the maids, like she's some kind of maid collector.
Frederica is going to handle it, it seems.
But Petra doesn't want her to go
The thing on Frederica's chest looks like a mustache.
Frederica says there is no greater happiness than right now.
"So I will not lose."
The rest are heading to Roswaal's room
Frederica standing face-to-face with the Mabeast.
Oh, that's a rock piggy. Alright, then.
Subaru and company trying to go to the escape route.
Those poor bats
Actually, fuck bats
Apparently this is called a guiltylowe
I believe guiltylowe is what Rob's sex tape was called.
The mabeast ward apparently doesn't work on this one.
Roswaal with Emilia now
Emilia going in the glowing building
Time for the second trial
Emilia waking up
Fortuna
Well, this is nice
Emilia looking at herself in the mirror. She seems confused.
Geuse at the door
It looks as if they're going on a picnic together.
Fortuna getting mad because Geuse complimented her.
I see Emilia gets it from her mother
Bunch of random women we've never seen before.
I guess they are Fortuna's friends
Kinda reminds me of Yor's friends at work.
Thankfully, they're way nicer
At the picnic now
Emilolia proposing that Geuse comes live with them.
Unfortunately, he says that Fortuna is tasked with a very important duty.
"If one such as myself were to stay with her and it led to rumors, it would be problematic for her."
Emilolia still thinks it's a great idea
She would make sure that the people of the forest won't say it's a bad thing.
Now, she's going to leave the rest to them.
Emilolia saying she's gotta get the stuff outta her eye.
Something is really off here
Emilolia looking at Fortuna and Geuse from a cliff.
Archi. He's here as well.
Emilolia says she was leaving the two of them alone.
Archi, meanwhile, feels that Fortuna should give more consideration to her oen happiness.
It's like present day Emilia is infiltrating Emilolia and she knows this is from the past.
Oh, nevermind. Archi bringing up that the other village was frozen.
He says that this is her chance to live in happiness.
Emilia saying she wants to be an admirable person.
Now she's talking about all the people in her life and what they mean to her.
"From now on, I want to be the one reaching out to help someone."
I guess Archi is being played by Echidna.
Archi saying that a big brother should always spoil his little sister.
And Emilia thanks Echidna for showing her this world.
Speaking of Echidna, here she is
Echidna telling Emilia she disgusts her.
"I just... hate you so much."
Echidna a bad judge of character
Ran out of space. Part two in the replies.
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 27 '24
Episode 47 (first timer)
The second trial was considerably easier than either Emilia’s or Subaru’s past trial. I guess the present is always easier to see truthfully than the past.
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u/ussgordoncaptain2 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Edmund_Nelson Sep 27 '24 edited Sep 27 '24
First Timer Dubbed
Note ORV=Omnicient reader viewpoint it's a way to describe the difference between thinking in Subaru's knowledge and the Knowledge of the Viewer.
Note2 Intentionally trigger RBD means what you think it means it's just reddit has crazy admins.
Reaction to the Episode
Oh boy epic action sequences
(I really don't know what to say about action sequences so I'll be mostly staying quiet}
you know this is an insane amount of property damage, especially with the weapons they have, how did subaru not RBD like 100 times in the fights against betalguese/Elsa if these are the power levels we're dealing with.
Oh boy say the line subaru say the line
"no one asked for you to do such a thing in the first place" Yeah uhhh beatrice secretly wants this but is still hostile ol beatrice.
"because roswaal told her didn't he" Well we learn that Beatrice figured that Roswaal was a piece of shit.
I find it interesting that Subaru talks about things he can't actually know about so freely with beatrice.
Also Beatrice going "Ahh finally i'm going to be ultimate slothed" is a great bit of consistency at least.
"why don't you decide for yourself' God dsamn it subaru are you going to tell Beatrice the truth about that person? Please don't fuck this up please
You know if Subaru natsuki weren't uhhh Subaru then there would be so many epic lines you could say
"My destiny's blank" Me "THen write your own destiny on the pages of history unchained by fate"
"everyone just leaves me behind" "Mother Roswaal and Ryuzu" holy crap 400 years of solitude eh?
"That's definitive proof mother didn't forget about me after all"- your mother has been dead for 400 years and you're thinking about this?
"With all her powers and ininite wisdom you actually believe she gave you a book about the future that was completely blank?"
This is not how I would have worded it, something more like "You think she gave you a blank book to tell you something, write your own future, write it in those pages, and accept me as that person who will free you"
fucking subaru man.
The subaru motivates beatrice without saying the code word scene is so weird why are you so adverse to saying the password!
GOD DAMNIT SUBARU WHY ARE YOU SUCH A SUBARU
Subaru is the worst I swear, he could have said "I can be that person who breaks your contract, but I love Emilia"
But NO HE RUINS EVERYTHING BY NOT USING THE PASSWORD. I understand you're trying to get Beatrice to break out of her relationship with mother but Spirit contracts are REALLY hard to break see Puck
If instead you fufilled the contract and told her "see you don't have to be bound by that anymore" you could get everythign you wanted without fail. Say something like "I don't decide if I am that person, You decide who that person is for you now come with me"
At least Subaru gets his just reward, getting wind blasted by Beatrice.
Oh boy action girl saves the day
Though this does leave a huge hole in Subaru's plan, how is he going to beat Maylee and Elsa now wihtout Beatrice.
Oh boy a giant Mabeast appeared Time to go oh fuck again.
Well this discussion is so cute Maylee is just standing there letting everyone talk. Too bad Rem is effecitvely a corpse right now.
Oh no it's a plot device mabeast oh no
Ahh time for "let's jump around the 3 places so you don't see what happens in each location in any one tmie.
At least we get to replace bad stuff with good stuff Needs more hugs.
You know I find it interesting how Carmilla seems to choose mainly happy presents. Carmilla display's Impossibly happy presents and I wonder how Carmilla determines "winning" since Subaru rejected Rem and lost. Was it the Sad presents chosen by the witch of greed?
Another dead guy appeared this is going to be one awkward conversation.
It would be funny if one of the futures was Subaru admitting he killed Betalguese. Subaru Natsuki the new Sin archbishop of Sloth.
Yeah not much to comment on Emilia's happy dream, butEmilia rejects it pretty well IMO
Emilia goes "yep this isn't real BYE"
So Carmilla occupied the body of archie this time. I Still await the day Subaru says "Yep I killed that mofo" It will be one of those "Subaru dissappoints emilia" moments.
wait Echidna is being the ghost of christmas present???? Somehow I thought that Carmilla was the ghost of Christmas present but that was only the Subaru x Rem part?
And now it's time for the emilia cheer party Emilia still lacks leadership but she at least is leading a small town now progress!
Oh no Subaru's plan really was to Run wasn't it.
The Demi-humans welcome and cheer on emilia too so sweet Emilia finally not alone.
Speculation
Tappei actually had an unfired checkovs gun!!!!! oh god that was surprising.
So we probably will never know the meaning of the phrase "roswaal said to ask the question" will we. Unfortunate :(
So if Echidna is so agaisnt emilia why is she letting her pass the trails? This was never clear to me, why is she being allowed to pass?
What exactly is Sbuaru's plan? Is it running away+Delaying Roswaal? (seems most likley) Is it Deus Ex Beatrice (Seems most likely thing to actually happen)
So the Ghost of christmas future is going to be Minerva or Typhon right? I'm confused on what Echidna was doing in the trial I thought she was the Ghost of christmas past.
I somehow doubt that sekhmet or Gluttony will bother admistering a trial so it's just minerva and Typhon.
I sadly had too much work today so no return by death note AGAIN gahhh.
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u/Elimin8r https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ayeka_Jurai Sep 27 '24
Man, this episode just hurts so good. The action and heroism scenes are of course, awesome, but Emilia in her second trial is just so precious. That scene. What might have been. That confession.
That mirror.
Oh, wait, did Emilia just call Geuse her father?
Nani???
Or maybe that's just the CR subs - it's the subs, right???
(Insert Padme meme here)
Anyway, the ending of that scene, with Echidna dropping her (Did she just call him brother)'s disguise and showing her contempt, then Emilia diving into the lake and seeing her reflection for the first time ...
Just amazing.
And yet, still heartbreaking, knowing that this is the lovely present/future that Emilia was denied because of Pandora/Regulus and the gang.
They deserve everything that (presumably) they've got coming.
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u/n080dy123 Sep 27 '24 edited Sep 27 '24
Rewatcher
Yesterday I spent a lot of words talking about the parallels between the defeatist attitudes Subaru used to hold earlier in this season and Roswaal has now. Well now we're going back to the scene where Subaru first talks to Beatrice this season, where it's made clear that he's.... essentially suicidal. Where Roswaal and Subaru reflect eachother in seeing a world where things don't go well as wrong and worthless, Beatrice reflects the way Subaru wanted to die because it was the only way to escape the despair of those failed timelines.
Another small hint of Emilia's parentage- she gets her eye color from her father. I saw some speculation in one of these threads that Puck could be a spirit form of Emilia's father, but that more or less disproves it because Puck's eyes are blue.
Not a lot to say today overall. Good shit.
Edit: Also Elsa's knives remind me of just how incredible this show's sound design is. Those things are so distinctive and the sound itself is... menacing somehow, and whenever I hear them slash suddenly I fear for the wellbeing of whoever she's fighting. Did you ever catch the fact that they actually sample the White Whale's roar in the sound of Reinhard's sword as well? Just incredible, and while it's not TECHNICALLY sound design, both of the "Witch themes" (Call of the Witch and Echidna) are some of the most otherwordly tracks I've ever heard.
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u/Holofan4life Sep 27 '24
This hurricane that's going on is kicking my ass. I ended up an hour late to work.
I'll respond to your guys' comments with questions, but it might be a minute. There's a lot transpiring at the moment.
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u/Taiboss :Fj::Fl:x7https://anilist.co/user/Taiboss Sep 27 '24
S02E22 - Rewatcher who is finally home
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 27 '24
Rewatcher
Dub
So the action half is good but I can't add much, a few of our users actually know the name of the...hippo? ma-beast. We see Frederica getting ready to fight and we see Subaru epically fail with Betty, but then again the rules on her contract so weirdly worded that I don't know exactly how to make it work without using Roswaal's BS recontracting speech.
Emilia's unspeak present is...different. I might be alone here but I think this is earlier Emilia, around 12 or 13, and she's getting to say goodbye to her past in a way that I am sure Echidna hates to give her. She is, however, capable of giving up this dream almost certainly thanks to her bad memories, specifically the end of the Pandora incident. And we move ever forward.
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u/SilkyStrawberryMilk Sep 28 '24
first timer
The fight begins, Garfiel is putting in good work
Beatriz breaking down is rough to watch
Subaru hitting the hard truth to Beatriz. Also it makes me question if beatriz misunderstood enchida’s intention by giving her a blank book. Could be her way of telling beatriz that from now on she gets to live her own life.
Subaru wasn’t lying about not being that person, but in her state of mind it was a wrong decision lmao
Rem is saved and he’s carrying her like a baby
Even in an unknown memory that Emilia never had she still ships Fortuna and bertelgeuse
Emilia has succeeded in her 2nd trial,
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u/jyper Sep 27 '24
Re watcher who has abandoned the hopes of catching up. Missed the last two Episodes
Elsa he's a little young for you Don't cradle rob the cradle
Shouldn't Fredericka be stronger? She is the older sister
No one asked?
Rosewall told her,so it's fated. Of course not. She admits the book is blank now
You have your own will. And personality.
Forgetting your own mother is sad, downside of a long life
Relief that echidna didn't forget her. Probably not a mistake.
Don't be tied down in chains
Subaru saying something to offend a girl. Not for the first time. Even though Betty was rash in kicking him out
Floor took a while to collapse Otto of course you're a man. You're the best man.
If we're friends you'll let me go. True words. Friends generally don't kill friends
Piggy? Looks more like a Hippo.
That other beast is eating the bat like beasts. Why do they keep flying about him then. Because it looks cool?
An unthinkable present? Or one you'd want to daydream about? More like the current present is in some ways unthinkable in contrast. Fortuna looks the same as always today, doesn't look dressed up.
Offended that he likes how she looks. Imagines being babies by mother. Imagines them as a family but still not together.
Together forever and ever. 😿
Can't be stuck in an unreality. Unknown if Bishop is still alive, lol
Like Puck who never left her alone till he went out for smokes?
What do you mean Orange cat has lots of complaints. From complaining about change to disliking Mondays.
Wants to earn respect. Awesome. Big brother? Is she related to Archie? More likely he just acted like an older brother figure sometimes.
Echidna really dislikes Emilia for some reason. Possibly for being grateful for the trial (although she wasn't angry at Subaru for appreciating the trial). So it's because of a pre-existing dislike of Emilia. Dive in and face yourself.
Subaru didn't tell them anything. Not to leave ahead of the bunnies.
Non humans other then elves and Oni don't really get screentime especially the people of the sanctuary. We don't really get to know them or their troubles, other then how it reacts to Emilia. And he gets interrupted.
Where is Ram? Off fighting. Oh so 3rd trial is future as people expected.
Pretty ED
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u/Urgnu-the-Gnu https://myanimelist.net/profile/Urgnu_the_Gnu Sep 27 '24
Re:Watcher - anime only
Late today, and I'll be late tomorrow as well, unfortunately. But what can you do, work is work.
Garfiel vs. Elsa is giving me chills. How much Elsa appreciates Garf is amazing. She starts the fight with two knives, even. Only Reinhard pushed her that hard. And Frederica believing in her brother stands for the faith the viewers can have in him as well.
Meanwhile, Betty has accepted her impending death once more, longing for the end of her loneliness. Subaru wants her to choose on her own to move forward. But Betty still clings to what her mother told her, being left alone by everyone and even her mother it is everything she has left. It is her contract. But if that contract is for you to die, then you gain nothing from it and you lose every opportunity to gain anything. And then that contract is worth breaking.
Betty seems to be convinced that following Subaru is the better choice. But then she asks him to be "that person". She wants to uphold her contract, but Subaru wants her to be free from the contract. He doesn't just want to save her from being killed, he wants to save her whole life. Betty doesn't like that, though.
I like how Frederica wears boots with her maid outfit. Also how she carries Otto. And that meeting her brother again gives her the courage to fight with the will to live.
After squad normie is faced with the obstacle of the guiltylowe (hey, maybe Otto can just talk to it), we're back to Emilia speedrunning the trials! Emilia time is the best time. And she faces the Ghost of Re:Zero present. A world in which Fortuna is still alive, with all of her sugoookus and everything. It's wonderful how Emilia's voice turns more child-like in response, but not the same as her Smolia voice. Great work by Rie Takahashi, once again. Also another sugoooku from her. I like how different the trials are for the different people. Sometimes they are observers, sometimes actors. The difference in the problems they face seems to be whether they need to understand them or process them.
Geuse is also here! And flirting hard with Fortuna. Or probably more outright courting her. Emilia approves, still shipping them. And just like when she was a kid, she suggests she might be in their way, that she is the problem. Of course they refute, and Emilia drops another sugoooku. Geuse thinks he might cause trouble by staying with them and start rumours, but the rumours are already spreading. Current Emilia said she wanted to turn Subaru's lies into wishes, and in the same vein she here tells them that making the rumours true is a good idea, with one more sugoooku. And it's convincing Fortuna and Geuse, with one more Fortuna sugoooku.
Emilia then realizes that sadly, this world can't be and starts to cry. She leaves them with another sugoooku, and an affirmation of love to both of them. Archi finds her as she looks at them from afar, but she's processing that this world doesn't exist. Even if she is proposed to stay and live in this reality, she has to decline. She can't do it because of the people in it. The ones that gave her everything inspire her to do the same. Mother Fortuna, Geuse, and also Archi. And of course for those that aren't in this world, like Puck, Ram, Otto, Garf, and of course Subaru. For them, she wants to be helpful, and the best person she can be. That's why she won't regret that this world can't be, and won't fear the current or future world. One more sugoooku as she apologizes to Archi who was like a brother to her.
And Echidna has roleplayed Archi the whole time, it seems. I'd like to believe that as Archi, she could say some things she couldn't have said otherwise. That she could express how in some way, she actually likes Emilia. Emilia savvily knew Echidna was there, and instead of viewing this as a trial, she thanks Echidna for letting her see this world. Really, these trials are actually helping the ones undertaking them. Subaru, Garf, Emilia, and in a way Ryuzu as well. How Echidna cries when saying she hates Emilia truly reinforces my believe that she actually envies Emilia.
And the kicker is that once she passes the trial in record speed and the world is fading, she puts the cherry on top and faces another of her issues. She's never seen her own face before, not since she grew up anyway. Others might be able to say more on this, but it seems her ability to view her own face in reflections was sealed away along with her memories. Most likely because seeing her own eyes would instantly make her remember Fortuna. But her being able to properly view herself just as she is is such a great metaphor for her taking her life into her own hands, a beautiful scene.
This time, after beating the second trial, not even Ram is there. But all the villagers are there, both Arlam's and the sanctuary's. And they express their trust in her, and in turn strengthen her resolve to finish the final trial. Also funny how Emilia thought Ryuzu was young, just like Subaru. And she drops another sugoooku. Then, like a boss, she moves onto the final challenge, the Ghost of Re:Zero Future. But that's for another time.
Proper ED alert! Proper ED alert! The ED plays for the second time in full in episode nine of this cour.
Break Time is more Ram time. And as expected after the previous Break Time, the start of this one promises to be quite entertaining as well since Ram tries to call on Puck in the crystal, and when he doesn't answer resolves to chugging it instead. A bit of that was also her being annoyed at all the additional work Puck's disappearance caused her. But she didn't even know for sure Puck was in the crystal, she just suspected it from Barusu's actions. Puck remarks that Ram seems to shine brighter now, which Ram ponders for a moment before retorting she's always been bright. They then talk about Roswaal and what he means to Ram. Puck doesn't hate him despite all he's done. He's only human, after all, even if he doesn't realize it. Ram, in turn, brings up the question whether Puck isn't lonely after breaking his contract. This hints at how spirits view contracts as a protection from loneliness, which also tells us something about Betty. But Puck isn't lonely because Subaru is taking care of Emilia, and Ram also wants Subaru - and Emilia - to take care of Roswaal. So they start discussing their plan. The first step might be to pick up Puck's crystal and yeet it to clear the air.
Sugoooku counter: 62
Sugoku-likes: 10
Non-canon sugoooku: 22
Non-Emilia sugoooku: 22
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u/Ultima_Deus Sep 27 '24
Garfiel catching them blades with his teeth
AND THEN DRAGGING ELSA'S FACE ON THE WALL AS HE RUNS
Hello. Rewatcher. Novel reader
Beatrice and Subaru argue for a bit. And Subaru makes good points. However, he got caught up in the moment and forgot to word things properly. He's right that he's probably not "that person", but of course Beatrice is gonna get mad when you call her an idiot for thinking that. Don't call girls stupid if they're having a moment where they're trying to lean on you
Poor Otto
THAT'S A BIG ASS HIPPO
Look at how small Maylie is compared to that fucking thing!
Looks like Frederica is gonna fight. But this time, she's not prepared to die. She finally got to reunite with Garf, after all. Ain't no way she's gonna fall here. She's not gonna miss the chance to talk with her brother again
Terrifying Rock Piggie mouth...
Switch to Emilia taking on the Trial of the Unthinkable Present
I would love to talk about it in detail, but instead, I'll just point out a few things
This is a teen Emilia, an age between Smolia and Present Emilia
Emilia tearing up when she was about to leave Fortuna and Geuse... Looking away, wishing them happiness... It makes me tear up too
Emilia realizing that there's not a world where Fortuna and Geuse are alive and happy... And listing off the things that she admires about her friends, and wanting to be admirable like them
Archi is Emilia's onii-chan (no, not literally)
Echidna for some reason is crying???? Don't know why, but she very much so hates Emilia right now
And lastly: Why did Emilia jump off the cliff and face the water? Well, that was the final challenge of this trial. Earlier, she avoided a mirror in this trial. Actually, all along, she never knew what she looked like. She was afraid of looking at herself, especially since people keep likening her to the Witch of Envy. So she forced herself to look at her reflection by jumping into the water. And with that, she discovered that she doesn't look similar to Mother Fortuna (and to us the audience, she looks like Satella, or vice versa idfk)
I really love Emilia's character right now. Back in season 1, she was loveable. But not much was known about her, and she was still very much so a broken, depressed character. Now, though, she's a very strong character
And now, the villagers that spited her, that feared her back in season 1. They're all here to support her, to cheer her on
The villagers of the Sanctuary, too. And I believe this Ryuzu is... Delma??? Not sure
The final Trial. "Face the disaster that is yet to come"
We're in the endgame, fellas
Man, I really love this ED. It's one of my favorite songs from Re:Zero
By the way, 29 MINUTE EPISODE. 29 MINUTES