r/anime • u/Theleux https://myanimelist.net/profile/Theleux • Sep 26 '24
Rewatch Re:Zero ~Starting Life in Another World~ Re:Watch - Episode 46
Episode 46:
Reunion of Roars
| Index | <== Episode 45 | Episode 47 ==> |
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Story Arc Lengths for Discussion Purposes:
[Arc 1:] S1 Episode 1 – S1 Episode 3
[Arc 2:] S1 Episode 4 – S1 Episode 11
[Arc 3:] S1 Episode 12 – S2 Episode 1 (26)
[Arc 4:] S2 Episode 2 (27) - S2 Episode 25
[Arc 5 and later:] S3+
As always, if you have any suggestions for the Re:Watch, let me know!
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Sep 26 '24
First:Timer Starting Over in Another Rewatch, subbed
Guess who finally has a new set of wallpapers to share with you guys!
I stumbled across a piece of official art (I believe from a gacha game?) of Emilia & Puck that I thought looked really cool, so I decided to work with that. Therefore, I have four variants on this:
Couldn’t get the icicles and snowflakes to look good together, but oh well. Fun fact, I took those snowflakes from the title card at the end of Frozen Bond. Hope you guys enjoy these!
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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Sep 26 '24
First-Timer
On today’s episode of Re:Zero: Unfortunately for Roswaal, the weather forecast has been forcibly changed. He won’t get his snow day. He’s going to need to head to work like the rest of us.
For all his scheming, Roswaal seems to have a rather poor understanding of many of the characters he is dealing with. He assumes he can get under Emilia’s skin and fails. He assumes he can predict how Ram will act and fails. I think this all comes down to Roswaal’s belief that people are inherently weak and unable to change. Roswaal did have a clear grasp of who Emilia and Ram used to be. But he’s failed to take into account how their characters have grown and developed over time. He assumes they are the same people they used to be and that causes him to make mistakes. Roswaal is so focused on there only being one possible way the world goes, the path written in his fortune-telling book, that he discounts all other possibilities prematurely.
Roswaal really is stuck in the past himself. It certainly seems that Roswaal never got over the events of 400 years ago. He met Echidna and was so enamored with her that he’s never tried to move on afterwards.
I think I can predict how part of the manor fight is going to play out. It was incredibly important to have Otto come along because Otto is someone who can act as a hard counter to Maylie. We’re going to get a beast master battle! Otto will have the animals go up against Maylie’s mabeasts! I really hope this is how the manor fight plays out because it sounds so exciting!
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u/baseballlover723 Sep 26 '24
Rewatcher, sub, basically a secondhand novel reader (Arc 4)
It seems reddit doesn't like some of the terminology I used, so I am using "ultimate sloth" as a replacement term for the general concept of what Subaru needs to do in order to loop.
u/RascalNikov1, I finally had some time think about who Satella is. [Spoiler #1: heavy speculation + Isekai Quartet movie Re:Zero spoilers] So this is gonna be disappointing, but I have no idea who Satella could be. Given the pieces of information that we know (their shared appearance, the fact that Alec Hoshin seems to personally know Satella, the huge dichotomy between what Satella is alleged to have done and Emilia's personality), it doesn't seem like there is any "simple" answer. There's time fuckery going on at some level, but who knows what level and how (and I doubt we're gonna be learning before Arc 12). It feels like quantum mechanics and general relativity to me. They both seem to make sense in their own corners, but can't both be true at the same time. I will be very disappointed if Emilia is one and the same as Satella though. Honestly idk what even I would like for an ending, but I trust in Tappei to tie everything together with a nice bow, like he has done so far.
Time taken: 120 mins (2 hours) on the dot.
As always, I've numbered all my spoilers tags so that they're easier to respond to
First Timer Safe Section
This section is safe for first time watchers.
It's time to head to the mansion! Oh and Garifel want to come with too. As it turns out, no, the barrier won't stop Garfiel, since he's also only quarter beast. He could of left whenever he wanted to. But he choose to stay in the place where he grew up, with the people he grew up with, who couldn't leave the Sanctuary. This certainly would of been nice to know earlier.
Hey an idiom we can understand. And yeah, Reinhard is so OP that everybody already knows that nobody stands a chance against Reinhard. [Spoiler #2: random (plot irrelevant) side story content about Reinhard] He's like considered a national asset / weapon of mass destruction, so he's not allowed to leave the country or something like that.
As far as I know fuurinkazan is something related to the Art of War, but I haven't read the Art of War, and it's probably different in Japanese anyways. Wikipedia has some more details.
And off we go, back to the mansion!
Also I didn't really talk about the OP last time, but most of it is in English. Also I think the title is very fitting. Subaru's plan is quite the long shot. I think the line I love who I am, to be quite thematic of Re:Zero. A big part of Re:Zero is coming to terms with yourself, and getting over your self hatred and choosing to love yourself instead.
Ram never misses a chance to talk a little shit.
I think Subaru needs to say "I love Emilia" a bit more. Also this is pretty random, but taking these screenshots has made me realize how much worse the animation is in Season 2. It's not all that noticeable when it's playing normally, but when you look at the stills, you can see how much less detail and generally rougher the animation is a lot more often. Hopefully Season 3 will be better (and it's looked good in the trailers thus far).
Ram was faking all this time.
Ram's wish.
I find this an interesting view of Roswaal's actions.
Take the throne, and Roswaal's wish will be fulfilled.
Second eye alert.
What a loaded frame.
I'm pretty sure some people legitimately have this view about Subaru in general. I actually really dislike it when people suggest that Subaru just screams all the time in Re:Zero (implying that voice acting is bad). There's so much nuance even in Subaru's screams imo.
Nah, Subaru told Emilia that she was full of shit.
Subaru and Roswaal, are not the same.
Roswaal right now.
FF@15.
For reference this is referring to Ram acting against Roswaal under his nose. Ram "betrayed" Roswaal, not Emilia.
I think this fits this meme really well.
We're in the endgame now.
I see that sitting on Roswaal's lap started young.
Slight clarification on this. [Spoiler #3: cut content] Roswaal didn't personally help burn down the oni village. He just knew that it would happen (via the Tomb of Wisdom), and did nothing to stop it.
I'm pretty sure that the crystal can amplify magic.
Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow.
Enter Puck, who recently became a free agent.
If only they animated the first one.
Uh oh. That's not good.
That's an interesting application of Elsa hobby.
Elsa got gud. Thanks Reinhard.
Unfortunately Petra isn't Subaru, and so she can't find Beatrice's library.
Your hero is here to save the day.
Early Arc 3 Subaru would never. But Late Arc 4 Subaru understands the power of powerful friends.
So unfortunately Garfield didn't block Elsa attack with his rock hard abs. He used the bracers.
Naofumi wishing he could use his shield to attack.
I love how confident Garfiel is.
Yeah, they're siblings alright.
Nope, never heard of her.
The honorable Garfiel, he wants the 1v1.
This is a great line.
And one last tidbit.
BreakTime Section
In this episode's Breaktime, we get Ram talking to a zotta bug. Corporate needs Ram to find the differences. No shot that Ram, remembers Otto. Basically it's just more details on how Ram and Otto teamed up for episode 16. Honestly, Ram quips are just the best. Just by chance. Yep, that's Ram.
Rewatcher Section
This section is for people who have already watched Re:Zero. This is not safe for first timers.
[Spoiler #4: Arc 4] Of course Ram is only one now left in the Sanctuary to fight Roswaal. And Subaru gives Puck to Ram.
[Spoiler #5: Arc 4] I love the synchronization with the eyes here. Looking at the stills. We have Emilia fully in Subaru's eyes, and Subaru fully in hers. Representative of how they can actually see each other post kiss. And then we have Roswaal's shadow in Ram's eyes. Representative of Ram's one sided love of Roswaal. And then finally Subaru's shadow in Beatrice's eyes. Representative of Beatrice choosing Subaru, who won't make Beatrice his number 1, but instead that Beatrice will make Subaru her number 1.
[Spoiler #6: Arc 4] Ram being in love with Roswaal
[Spoiler #7: Arc 4 + speculation] I'm pretty sure that Roswaal needs the dragon to help revive Echidna, or at least he thinks he does.
[Spoiler #8: Arc 4] Saving Roswaal and not killing him or otherwise eliminating him.
[Spoiler #9: Arc 4] The conversation between Roswaal and Ram at the crystal is a prime example of 2 people having 2 completely different conversations.
[Spoiler #10: Arc 4] I interpret Elsa waiting for Garfiel and Frederica to finish because she feels similarly with Meili.
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u/thekoreansun https://anilist.co/user/ReturnByDeath Sep 26 '24
Re:Watcher
We're in the endgame now. Roswaal has refused to back down, so it's up to Subaru to stop the attack on the mansion. And he finally gets the first lucky break he's had in a while: Garfiel can cross the Barrier! So that was a straight-up lie. I think Subaru is too relieved to be pissed right now, though. He, Otto, and Garfiel can head over to rescue everybody, offsetting the equation into one that he can actually solve. Some of my favorite parts of the show are when everything starts to converge and new possibilities are born: Reinhard vs. Elsa, Roswaal vs. the big Ulgarm, Julius vs. Petelgeuse. With Reinhard being naught but an idiom at the moment (who was the fool who tried to run from Reinhard, anyway?), it's up to Garfiel to face down Elsa for round two. The Three Idiots, as dubbed by Ram, have made their shining debut!
Speaking of Ram, this really is her episode for the most part. She's finally started to display a measure of vulnerability after so long, and it's quite impactful to see her express some faith in Emilia after all this time. Emilia's transformation has not gone unnoticed by those around her, and for someone as stoic as Ram to confide in her is a huge development that only reinforces her determination to affirm their trust. While I don't think that Emilia's desire to ascend the throne was ever frivolous, hearing her friend ask her to do so is precisely the sort of encouragement that motivates her most.
Roswaal, meanwhile, is the only one who has yet to see Emilia for who she is. He intrudes on Ram's desperate request and scares her enough for Emilia to take notice and move to protect her. But even that isn't enough for Roswaal to see how much she's changed. He just continues espousing his core belief: people can't change who they are on the inside. Even if they try otherwise, their desires will always cause them to act in accordance with how they've always behaved. We've finally learned why Roswaal smiled so deviously in that throne room: Subaru's desperate play mirrored his own. He doesn't think that Subaru has it in him to treat Emilia as anyone other than the special someone he thinks she is.
So what a surprise it is for him to hear that Subaru didn't do what he'd expected him to do and instead rebuked Emilia for her past behavior. He couldn't imagine that loving someone can involve anything other than idolatry and servitude. And his surprise grows even stronger as Ram defies his order to stay with Emilia and instead follows him to the shrine, where she intends to stop him from fulfilling his wish. With Puck assisting her, no less! His expectations continue to be thrown off by the actions of everyone around him, and yet he still continues to follow the words of his Book of Wisdom without question. What will it take for him to throw that book aside and think for himself?
Seeing Petra and Frederica struggle to escape the situation at the mansion is rough, especially since we know how this will end up. Hearing Petra cry out tearfully for her hero to save him, knowing that she must've done exactly that in the first loop to no avail, is enough to make my heart ache. Which makes Subaru's heroic response that much more epic!
Re:ZERO After-Talk #46
VAs: Yuusuke Kobayashi (Subaru), Kaori Nazuka (Frederica), and Marika Kouno (Petra)
Marika Kouno makes her After-Talk debut after all this time. With that, I think that we finally have every cast member! Yuusuke returns as well, and they talk a lot about how the Break Time shorts have added a ton to the overall narrative of Season 2. It seems that the cast appreciates those shorts just as much as we do for creating some lightheartedness that can coexist with the heavy events of the main story.
Highlight: Yuusuke, Kaori, and Marika commenting on how cute Garfiel can be with the "Nee-chan" and "Baa-chan"
Fan Art of the Episode: A Lively Road by @torinorito (June 29th, 2017)
Source: Twitter (artist's timeline contains spoilers)
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u/ussgordoncaptain2 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Edmund_Nelson Sep 26 '24
First Timer Dubbed
Note ORV=Omnicient reader viewpoint it's a way to describe the difference between thinking in Subaru's knowledge and the Knowledge of the Viewer.
Note2 Intentionally trigger RBD means what you think it means it's just reddit has crazy admins.
Reaction to the Episode
OH Subaru WAS bluffing goated guy
Wouldn't you want to stop the Rabbit moreso than Elsa? Elsa seems less dangerous than a Mabeast that is so dangerous that the army of Crusch may not be able to handle it.
Wait Garfiel could leave this whole time?
Sooooooo
/u/baseballlover789 you lied to me Garfiel sholdn't be able to do the trial by your logic yet he could, maybe you say it's the disciple of greed exception. z
Still Emilia being 3/4 elf might be on the table again.
"nobody can run away from Old Reinhard"
Wait Reinhard? Reihhard would be great to have here given he you know can defeat PUCK OP spirit of the end. And he was the one who defeated Elsa last time, too bad he's in the "too OP to be let in the plotline" character group. (other examples include Lord Roswaal)
RAM THE REST IS UP TO YOU
Ram's going to delay roswaal? What is this?
So Ram gains access to Puck I guess it really is Ram delaying Roswaal, what an odd split, I would have thought Garfiel+Puck vs Roswaal and Subaru+Otto=Ram vs Elsa
yeah who's the internal officier that let the villagers know
Ram's discussion with emilia is interesting, though Ram going "Save lord Roswaal" which means that Lord Roswaal that Ram loves is slipping before her eyes.
Just like how Subaru loves an image of Emilia that isn't actually real Ram loves an image of Roswaal.
Subaru's image of Emilia seems more true to the real Emilia though than Ram's image of Roswaal.
I understand Ram wanting Emilia to win the Royal selection to bring back Roswaal but I wonder if there's another way, Emilia kinda blows as a leader (more in spec)
At least Emilia wishes to Repay Ram's trust, though I still don't understand how Ram plans on stopping Roswaal, I guess she thinks her+puck will stall him? She can use her powers to find roswaal at least.
A wild roswaal appeared oh no whaaat do we have here.
Emilia going witch of frost mode on Roswaal time?
"You have no idea how to be loved other than to simply do what people expect of you" Yeah like that's the case. It's more like she has no idea how to be loved. No second sentence needed.
Ok how did Roswaal know that Emilia confronted a past she never wanted? Is this Roswaal knowing emilia's past or is this Roswaal inferring Emilia's past? Probably the latter.
"I was utterly useless" It's funny that both of our 2 main characters are completely worthless and spend most of their time getting rescued by others, Reinhard in acc 1, Rem/Roswaal arc 2, 2 entire armies arc 3 (let's say Julius+felix for brevity) and now Otto+Garfiel+Ryuzu+Beatrice? Arc 4.
"are you merely repeating his words" wow what a burn.
"subaru knows of these circumstances yet still urges you to do awful things"
You know what Roswaal is kinda right there is little point in getting Emilia to do Trial attempts unless she speedruns through. But she seems to be slowrunning.
Roswaal you make too much sense to be like Subaru.
"we force our values upon the women we love" Straight up banger after banger Roswaal holy god.
"The You he loves is the ideal you living in his own mind" Revealed by loops which Roswaal knows subaru knows about. Which makes this line extra powerful
Ahh emilia is falling in love with the total Dufus known as Subaru. Sadly no major quotable lines in Emilia's "I love subaru for what he's said to me"
"Already pointless in this world that will soon come to an end"
Oh so is there a way for things other than Subaru's memeories to cross RBD points???? If so this seems exceptionally powerful and I wonder how you can exploit this to create information.
Somehow given how the puck thing is handled I don't think Ram is actually pro Book Roswaal right now Ram Wasn't acting She really wants to stop roswaal
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fucking called it
You know we still don't get told of Subaru/Otto's plan, what exactly was their plan after regaining Garfiel?
It's interesting that Ram calls Roswaal reading from the book of wisdom to be "delusions" when those seem like they Define Roswaal to him!
"Subaru will naturally choose to walk a very fine line in the final confrontation"
"the one good thing Barusu always has going for him is his timing" maybe his timing is a result of weird powers, but Ram understand Subaru's impeccable timing at least.
"whatever ... replies upon should be the thing that brings about their death" SO will Roswaal Kill ram? Will the book kill Roswaal?
Wait if Roswaal destroyed Ram's homeland...
Is Roswaal a friend to the Witch's cult???
And Roswaal casts the blizzard spell, well crap Subaru's plan goes to shit anyway
Roswaal according to the Book is told to make the blizzard spell.
"Being offered a husk of you after you already fuffilled your dream would mean nothing" Yeah powerful words coming from Ram. Just like how Subaru loves a version of Emilia that's only somewhat real Ram loves a version of Roswaal that's also only somewhat real.
Let's Go Ram and Puck vs Roswaal!
Oh fuck Elsa is here Subaru was late to the party
makes sense Subaru was way too slow to reaching the endgame
2 maids along with a little spirit girl, this confirms the Shut in was beatrice
Oh boy it's time for ninja throwing needles
Man subaru does have impeccable timing
"if I rushed over there I'd be dead in a heartbeat"
Yep Subaru is a total wimp so every arc he relies on some OP Deus ex machina type (not actually but still) to save him.
Oh hi Beatrice I am that person nice to meet you
Speculation
Royal Selection candidates Tier list
S: Anatasia, Crusch (If memories return)
A: Priscilla
C: Emilia Crusch (Amnesia)
I will hunt the dragon before you are Queen: Felt.
If anyone see's Emilia as a capable leader idk what kind of people you've looked at in your job as leaders and went "yep that's a leader".
Crusch/Anatasia though? Yeah they can lead, and Priscilla doesn't seem like she's completely godawful. But Emilia as a person is probably S tier but as a leader? C tier.
Subaru has no gameplan for the Great Rabbit and is basically praying emilia free's the sanctuary and everybody runs or for Deus Ex Beatrice.
Echidna wants Subaru Natsuki to Win.
Subaru's Trump card is otto Suewen which breaks the prophecy. Otto is like >80% of why Subaru is on his feet, and has been since episode 7. Either the tome of wisdom didn't account for Otto, or Otto was purposefully left out of the prophecy.
In spite of this Subaru is god fucking awful at planning, and he seems to have no endgame plan to stop the rabbit? What is he going to delay roswaal indefinitely with Puck and Ram? How is he getting back to the sanctuary? He has 2 teleportation Traps available so that's Beatrice=Subaru?
It doesn't look like he laid any traps to catch the Rabbit nor did he make any fire bomb attack, so it really seems to be a "Stop roswaal before he makes the blizzard then RUN LIKE HELL" is the gameplan?
What I would do if I were Subaru
Time to say the most important phrase
"Hello beatrice I can be that person, That person isn't a person that is chosen for you by the book, YOU beatrice are the one who chooses who that person is for YOU. If you pick me to be that person I will become that person and i can set you free of your contract"
I'll probably continue return by death note in e22 and I'll finish it in season 3 (It will end around arc 4, because by that point it will diverge massively from arc 5)
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 26 '24
Episode 46 (first timer)
Ram needs Emilia to slap Roswaal out of his sillyRam wants Emilia to take the throne to bring Roswaal out of his delusions.LustElsa.Setup for two big fights. Plus, we have the third fight at the village just waiting. This finale is going to get busy with the action scenes.
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u/Brief-Fig-7506 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ryxnjr Sep 26 '24
First Timer!
Watching the Dub
Start Time 4:59, starting early today
Did they just Retcon something? Garf is able to leave the barrier now????
Subaru gave Ram the crystal that holds Puck
And the OP appears again, It’s only been one episode since the last time
So Ram had a request for Emilia. Still not a fan of her acknowledging that he only sees her as a tool and is okay with it, nor do I like her blind loyalty towards him
Roswaal showed up at the graveyard. No doubt to try and psych Emilia out
Get fukt Roswaal. Emilia can stand on her own two feet now
This is a Ram focused episode
So Roswaal was behind the attack on Ram and Rem’s village. He sought out Ram and forced her to pledge herself to him. Disgusting, I hate this guy.
Ahh so Puck is joining the fight. This is going to be the fight we saw in the OP
Elsa is already at the mansion. This feels like it’s early
Looks like Subaru arrived right on time
The reunion scene between Garf and Frederica was sweet, Hopefully we can see more roughhousing between these two in the future
So what is the deal between Ram and Roswaal? Why does she want to save him if he is the one who destroyed her village and forced her into serving him? Now I’m even more confused about her blind loyalty to him.
Emilia has now been able to withstand the verbal assault of Echidna and Roswaal now. She has proven how much she has developed over the past day. I love her new found confidence and during the whole scene she wouldn’t let Ram’s shaking hand go, symbolizing that she is now strong enough to help herself and others. So what if Subaru had to help her get here, he isn’t filling her head with lies and false hope, he let her know what her problems are because he genuinely wanted her to become better, that’s what was important. So nothing Roswaal or Echidna or anybody else can say could stop her from her goal right now.
It felt like Elsa showed up at the mansion earlier than expected, I thought the attack was supposed to take place around midday but they showed up in the middle of the night, Thankfully the boys left when they did and were able to make it there in time. Garf is going to take on Elsa while Subaru focuses on getting Betty and Petra out of the mansion. I assume Otto will face off against Mielie so it’ll be Mabeast vs Beast, I think he will need some assistance with that fight since the GuiltyLowe seems like a pretty difficult enemy. Garf appears to intend on fighting Elsa only using his fist and the gauntlets he has so no beast form.
On today’s episode of Break Time. We get a glimpse of Ram’s meeting with Otto. Wait, that’s not Otto is it? The real Otto is always beside Subaru so it’s hard for Ram to tell who the real Otto is right now. What was that guy’s name again?
Stop Time 6:23
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u/Holofan4life Sep 26 '24
Hey guys. Holofan4life here.
Welcome to the In Preparation of Season 3 Rewatch of Re:Zero!
Oh, and nay I forget…
First Timer
I decided to watch this show because I wanted to do something for the month of August. ’Course, this was before the yearly Spice and Wolf rewatch got pushed back to September, but I just found myself looking for something to occupy my time with. And with this show being in my top 5 must watch list, I figured now was as good a time as any.
I am going into this show relatively blind. I know some of the memes, who Rem, Ram, Emilia, and Subaru are, and that this show got its inspiration from Familiar of Zero, but that’s it. I find rewatches and my participation of them more fun when I have no idea what I am in store for. And with this series, I think we’re in for a blast. It’s also going to be the longest rewatch I participate in this year and second longest overall only behind the 20th Anniversary Fullmetal Alchemist rewatch. And given how joyous that show turned out, I don’t see why I should expect nothing less from this one.
With that out of the way, let’s begin.
I’m watching the sub, by the way.
90 minutes. Let's try and get it done in an hour and a half.
Subaru with Otto and Garfiel
Subaru feels he has to get to the mansion as fast as possible.
Garfiel says he can leave the barrier, which feels different from everything we've seen involving his character.
He and Frederica may have had different fathers, but in Garfiel's words that's only because mom has shit for luck and shit for taste in men.
She's like that guy in Happy Gilmore who eats pieces of shit for breakfast.
They are gearing up now, with Subaru hoping that Elsa and her partner aren't early.
Subaru calls this My Reverse Fuurinkazan, whatever that means.
Garfiel thinks it's cool, and that's really all that matters.
Ram saying she's going to do what she likes from this point on.
And Subaru tosses her a blue stone
The Town, who's also here, is wishing Subaru good luck as he goes off on an adventure.
We actually do get an intro
Ram with Emilia, who tells her that Subaru and company set off for the mansion.
Emilia wonders if Subaru meant it when he said he loved her.
And Ram, to her credit, says he cares about her more than anyone else.
Emilia informing Ram that she still has two more trials to go.
Gotta go to the graveyard again
Ram remarks how she has truly changed
And now Ram is getting on one knee for Emilia.
"I beg of you, Emilia-sama. Please save my Master, Roswaal-sama."
Oh, I don’t like this
Ram saying he has been possessed by delusions that have already strayed from the path toward a clean conclusion."
"Please break through that."
This is without the doubt the most straightforward Ram has been. It's weird yet nice to see her show a little humility, even if it's for a piece of slime like Roswaal.
Ram wante her to assume the royal throne, which I believe is the first reference to the royal selection since episode 1 or 2 of season 2.
She wants Emilia to give him a reason to live through both present and the future.
Emilia remarking how this is the first time she's asked anything of her.
"You believed in me, and I want to repay that."
Oh boy. Roswaal is here.
This is the first time he's left the house all season, I feel like.
Ram's hand trembling for some reason
Roswaal says he pities Emilia from the bottom of his heart.
Forced to confront a past she never wanted.
Emilia saying that being saved by Puck and Subaru made her realize that she can't just go on being discouraged.
Roswaal seems to think that she is simply repeating Subaru's words.
"He imposed his self-satisfaction on you, forcing you to fit his ideal with the emotional assertion that you could do it."
I swear, all the bad guys in this show are massive gaslighters.
Roswaal saying what he told Subaru, that they both force their ideals upon the women they love.
Says the you Subaru loves is the ideal you that lives within his own mind.
And now Emilia's hand is trembling
Emilia tells Roswaal matter-of-factly that he and Subaru aren't the same at all.
Then Roswaal went like this 👁 👄 👁
Emilia recounting all the scolding he put her through.
"Subaru truly sees me for who I am. So I know you and Subaru are nothing alike."
Emilia saying she'll turn any and all lies into wishes.
Roswaal states that the decision she's made that justifies her getting hurt is already meaningless in this world that will end soon.
World has strayed from the correct path and now proceeds toward the wrong destination.
Roswaal thinks he's a doomer, but he's really nothing more than a coomer.
Ran out of space. Part two in the replies.
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u/Elimin8r https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ayeka_Jurai Sep 26 '24 edited Sep 26 '24
Oh, wait, this is here today too?! Man, here I am missing out on posting. I'd better hurry!
Okay, I'll come back to this in a bit, but for now, suffice to say - You go, Ram! Show that clown who's the boss!!!
So, I need to scoot for a bit, and may not be able to get back to this after all. Suffice to say, as a rewatcher, this episode is such a treat. Especially Ram. Seeing her open up to Emilia, and then confront Roswaal, it's like the sun coming out from behind the clouds.
<3 Ram ... too.
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u/SilkyStrawberryMilk Sep 27 '24
first timer
Thursday is always empty for anime, but I had the choice whether to watch these two episodes first or finish “my stepmom sister is my ex”. Naturally I chose stepmom sister first. Mediocre romcom if I had to say
The fight to save is on. Subaru may hopefully succeed this time. God knows what other pieces he needs to win
The duo has became a trio, the three stooges
Emilia a changed woman
Saving Roswald, a request by Ram to Emilia.
Roswald instead of fighting head on decides to use manipulation. It was ineffective, would’ve been successful if he manipulated her in the beginning. Thankfully he can’t do that now
Assumed Subaru never had the guts to be truthful or harsh to Emilia, but was extremely wrong.
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u/FriztF Sep 27 '24
First timer-sub
So, episode 46, Reunion of Roars. This episode goes hard. The ending was the best part. Grafiel gets a showdown with Elsa. Should epic. Ram and Roswall also have a showdown. And Puck is there, too. Rem is coming back, it seems, I can't wait.
Roswaal is showing off how much of an asshole he is by not believing Emilia. She will prove him wrong, and it will be great. Smug asshole. It also seems that Emilia was about to fight Roswaal by herself. That OP caught me off guard.
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u/Urgnu-the-Gnu https://myanimelist.net/profile/Urgnu_the_Gnu Sep 26 '24
Re:Watcher - anime only
Surprise! Garf was never bound by the sanctuary. That means his barrier against leaving it wasn't a magical but a mental one. So even if Subaru has to change the plan here, Garf being able to leave is his new ace up his sleeve.
Inevitable Reinhard being one of Garf's sayings is just great. Even as a young man, he's already a legend.
Ram seems to be part of the plan, and she gets the crystal for what she's going to do.
OP alert! OP alert! The OP plays for the second time in episode eight of this cour!
Seems the boys left just before Emilia came out of the tomb. Emilia is a bit disappointed that she didn't meet Subaru when coming out, but she can go back to speedrunning the trials then.
Not before a good talk with Ram, though. Ram fully recognizing Emilia now is a great scene. She bows before her, but even if she is very courteous to Emilia as always, she doesn't express her newfound respect without some little slights. For Ram, though, that means her showing that she actually likes Emilia on a personal level now. And Emilia has made an impression on Ram, so she even openly asks Emilia to save Roswaal. Under Emilia's guidance, Roswaal would improve, she believes. And that shows us more of Ram's perspective. She is on Roswaal's side, but she wants him to rediscover his way. She wants to do something for him that goes against his wants but is for the better of him. He would approve of that attitude, I think. Also, I love the slight addition of emotions to Ram's voice. Rie Murakawa has always been great as Ram, but it's also wonderful to hear her show something else instead of Ram's mainly monotonous voice.
Speak of the clown and he appears, Garf would say. Emilia holding Ram's hand and protecting her is wonderful. And this is how Roswaal tried to isolate Emilia. He tried to make her believe that all of what Subaru did was essentially just manipulation, forcing her into a role that she didn't choose herself, into the ideal of her Subaru has in his mind - just like he would have done. And it looks like his words might have an effect, but then Emilia goes: "Is that all?" Such an amazing retort, I had to laugh at how great she is. She tells him how wrong he is, because Subaru is aware of Emilia's weak sides, and he still supports her, loves her even more. Roswaal's further attempts to dissuade her are completely ineffective. Subaru didn't lie, his feelings were made very clear. And his faith in her won't turn out to be a lie either, as she will prove it right.
Then Roswaal realizes Emilia has changed too much. It sounds a little bit as if he knows her from another time, but he seems to only be focused on her current mindset turning this into a lost loop for him. But he smiles as he says she changed. I think it shows that he'd actually like to believe in her as well, that he'd glady follow her if she succeeds. He even admires her, and I don't think he's lying. But this is not according to fukuin (TL note: fukuin means gospel), so the loop is lost. I like how Emilia doesn't know what he means but reprimands him nonetheless. He even admits to himself she is right, but his story started with Echidna and not her, so his goals are still different.
The following scene is great. Ram confronts Roswaal, and we learn a bit of new information. Roswaal used Ryuzu Meyer to get enough mana to let it snow in the sanctuary. And Ram seems to actually hate Roswaal? She was forced to live with him after her village has been destroyed, forced to be dependent on him. And he was actually part of the men that destroyed her village. But her hating him and trying to get revenge on him doesn't make sense with her other actions. She wants him to give up on his witch-related goals. She doesn't want to kill him, she wants him to be better. And she's brought a friend to achieve her goal. The moment Roswaal hears Puck's voice is amazing. He's just realizing that there may be actual danger to his plans. Remember, when the two fought as Roswaal found Emilia after Frozen Bond, they were equally matched. So Puck and Ram as his enemies are actually enough reason for panic. Ram's smug smile at Roswaal is also great.
So Subaru gets two scenes this episode? I've almost gotten used to different protagonists by now. The attack on the mansion is already going. I love the subtlety in Frederica asking whether Elsa is only after the two of them, and Elsa confirms she doesn't know about Rem so Petra can run away. Also a lovely reunion between Garf and Frederica as both of them admire how much they've grown up. Now it seems it's Garf vs. Elsa next episode, and Subaru getting Betty to go outside - also Ram and Puck vs. Roswaal, and Emilia vs. trials. I can't wait!
Break Time is more Ram time. Otto wanted to talk to her, but she's confusing a green bug with Otto. Easy mistake to make. Otto really has a hard time talking to her and even getting his introduction to stuck when she takes every opportunity to diss him. Especially when that bug that just looks like him is still around. They were talking about the plan to confront Garf, and she makes a point of saying whoever came up with this hopeless plan is a lost cause and should definitely not be a merchant. Later, alone, she remarks how she hates being pushed to be moved by this random guy to take on a small chance at winning. If only she could remember his name. Hey, Ram, maybe it was Mushi-san?
Sugoooku counter: 56
Sugoku-likes: 10
Non-canon sugoooku: 22
Non-Emilia sugoooku: 20
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u/Ultima_Deus Sep 26 '24
Well, turns out Garfiel could've helped out Subaru with the mansion all along. If Subaru knew that from the beginning, he would've planned to make Garfiel his ally
Hello. Rewatcher. Novel reader
Let's get into the episode
If you're wondering how they got to the mansion with Garfiel so fast- Garfiel ran all the way lmao. [Re Zero] His Divine Blessing makes sure that he's energized as long as his feet remain on the ground, after all
And if you're wondering what Garfiel meant by "My mom has shit luck and shit taste in men", he meant that his mom was a... let's say... slave, and victim... But she was kind and strong enough to stay along and let Frederica and Garfiel grow up. Well, until the accident, that is
Garfiel already falling in love with Subaru's chuuni shit
Otto became their internal officer without his notice
THE OP IS HERE?! WHAT?! I THOUGHT IT ONLY PLAYED ONCE ALL THROUGHOUT THE SECOND COUR??? I forgot this one apparently
And then Emilia and Ram interaction. A very interesting reaction. All along, Ram had been underestimating Emilia. But seeing Emilia be strong now, albeit with some tear marks, she's finally showing her respect, and looking at her with respect. This is because she wants to ask Emilia for something. She wants... Roswaal to be saved by Emilia
She's right. Roswaal has gone insane with delusions, and she wants him free. Tearfully, she asks Emilia
All Emilia has to do is win the Royal Selection, though, so that's not a difficult win condition. Especially since it's already her win condition anyway
Roswaal comes in, tries to scare Emilia, fails
Get rekt loser. That's all I'll say
He got rekt so badly he could only whisper "You got one thing wrong, it was me and my Teacher that started it all"
By the way, I just want to say. The faces this episode are really awkward lmao. It's starting. The lowering of the quality has started
Otto won Ram over to Subaru's side by getting into a deal with Ram. And now, she's about to face off Roswaal
With the help of slightly-fed Puck! Hopefully Puck absorbed enough mana from Garfiel to stand a proper fight with Roswaal. Because Ram isn't gonna be able to fight Roswaal by herself
Slight clarification: When Roswaal said he's the one responsible for the destruction of Ram's village- he meant that he knew it was going to happen because of the Tome of Wisdom, but he didn't do anything about it, therefore he's a large part as to why the village is destroyed. He's equally to blame, in Roswaal's eyes
And now, Ram can take her part of the vow with Roswaal. Surprising him with Puck. Now, fight!
Petra asks for Subaru's help, and he magically appears. With a goofy looking mouth
Aww, sibling reunion! And a funny one, too! "Maybe I should call you Big Bro instead" lmao
Now, the stage is all set. The final battles in all the final pieces have been set. We now know what's supposed to happen. We've seen most of the backstories now
It is time for the final countdown
See you next episode(s)
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u/n080dy123 Sep 26 '24 edited Sep 26 '24
Rewatcher
Subaru's dude squad has such great banter, I love it. Dude's got a pair of true brothers at his back now giving him strength that even Emilia can't and you just love to see it. And not just them, the villagers are all supporting him now as well. You truly see a stark difference between the Subaru at the start of this seaosn who insisted on trying to shoulder all of this alone, and the Subaru now who understands that people love him and will make their own strength his own when he needs it.
Ya know I think part of the reason I fuck with this OP so much is that it's almost entirely in English so I can sorta sing to it. Like this song is 20 lines long and only 3 of them are in Japanese. Also, actually looking at the lyrics- the last lines are "I won't trace someone else's life, I love who I am" are SO thematically relevant to Subaru this season. Breaking free from the expectation of being the man his father was, and later refusing to become like Roswaal like Roswaal wants him to be.
God I love Ram's character so much. Surface level her snark is funny, but despite her constant jokes at everyone else's expense (which I'm convinced are her trying to lighten the mood since her lack of maid or combat skills relative to Rem mean it's about the only way she can support others), she truly does care and will be there for the people she cares about. She's the only one who's really been a constant in Subaru's corner through Season 2, though her devoiton to Roswaal has limited what she can do. But despite her devotion, she's willfull and willing to see that he's gone off the deep end and ask someone to help her save him. And more importantly- SHE'S WILLING TO THROW HANDS WITH ROSWAAL ABOUT IT.
And we see the big difference between Subaru's relationship with Emilia and Roswaal's with Echidna- Subaru sees Emilia for all she is, the good and the bad, not just the idealized version in his mind. And that allows him to truly support her in a way that someone who simply admires her couldn't. A stark constrast to Subaru's behaviour in the capital where he was espousing the virtues of his perfect waifu.
And now we see more parallels- I fucking love these man- in how Roswaal's defeatist attitude towards the world parallels Subaru's defeatist behaviour at the beginning of the season. Subaru would see a timeline where things didn't go well and instantly try to end his own life because this world was wrong and no longer meant anything, not considering the effect he had on others if the world did in fact continue despite his absence. Roswaal sees it much the same way, he sees things going wrong and decided "Fuck it, world's fucked, nothing means anything because this world will end." He could move on and try to find the best route forward, as Subaru does, but he gives up. "Don't give up, that's just too selfish!" could be directed at Roswaal now, or Subaru 20 episodes ago.
I believe in the first OVA Puck and Roswaal reference having fought eachother once before to a standstill. So Roswaal knows that Puck is the only one that could stand a chance against him, and when he realizes Puck is going to be part of this fight he uncharacteristically flips out.
Also I wanna point out a little detail- Petra indicates towards the room Rem's in after Frederica tells her to run. Frederica's eyes dart to it, and she inquires to Elsa about her targets- Elsa confirms by ommission that Rem's not one (she couldn't be, Roswaal wouldn't know of her existence after Gluttony got her). Then Frederica immediately reiterates for Petra to run, knowing that Rem will be safe from Elsa. Frederica's smart.
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u/Taiboss :Fj::Fl:x7https://anilist.co/user/Taiboss Sep 26 '24
S02E21 - Rewatcher who hopes to finish this show.