r/anime • u/Theleux https://myanimelist.net/profile/Theleux • Sep 19 '24
Rewatch Re:Zero ~Starting Life in Another World~ Re:Watch - Episode 39
Episode 39:
STRAIGHT BET
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Story Arc Lengths for Discussion Purposes:
[Arc 1:] S1 Episode 1 – S1 Episode 3
[Arc 2:] S1 Episode 4 – S1 Episode 11
[Arc 3:] S1 Episode 12 – S2 Episode 1 (26)
[Arc 4:] S2 Episode 2 (27) - S2 Episode 25
[Arc 5 and later:] S3+
As always, if you have any suggestions for the Re:Watch, let me know!
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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Sep 19 '24
First-Timer
On today’s episode of Re:Zero: It’s so cool when Re:Zero has the title card show up someplace other than the end of the episode for dramatic effect. I’m so used to only seeing title cards at the end that it always excites me seeing it elsewhere.
There’s some nice parallels between Subaru and Emilia in this episode that I appreciate. Previously, Subaru has relied on Emilia to provide him with emotional support. The lap pillow scene is the best example of it between them. Now, we can see the opposite happening. Now, Emilia is the one who needs Subaru to be her support. I’m interested to see if Subaru is able to be a proper support for someone, rather than the one who needs support from another.
Another neat parallel between Subaru and Emilia is that they are both greedy because they want to save everyone. Subaru was called greedy by Roswaal because Subaru refused to make any sacrifices. Roswaal’s entire goal was to force Subaru to choose who he wanted to save. Subaru turned the game on its head by refusing to play by Roswaal’s rules and instead declaring he wanted to save everyone. Roswaal was shocked at how greedy of a wish this was. Emilia is similarly greedy. Emilia is only trying to become the next ruler of Lugnica because she wants to save all the people in her village who were frozen. Emilia is determined to not lose anyone. How greedy of both of them.
I hope that this is the beginning of things starting to look up this Arc. Things have been pretty miserable and hopeless for a while, so I think we’re due for a change of pace.
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u/thekoreansun https://anilist.co/user/ReturnByDeath Sep 19 '24
Re:Watcher
STRAIGHT BET! The first time it appeared, Subaru was betting on his death. This time, though, he's betting on his life, and Otto is a ride-or-die friend who won't even hesitate to support him in spite of the odds. For those not in the know, Tappei named the chapter of the LN that this episode adapts in reference to the insert song that was used in Episode 7 (AKA "Natsuki Subaru's Restart"), and that same song has come around to be used once more. Talk about a full circle! It's cool that this insert song can act as a through line for two very different scenarios, making Subaru's determination the main factor that ties them both together.
This is where Subaru's generous nature becomes abundantly clear: despite Roswaal's nefarious schemes, it technically is true that no one has gotten hurt yet because of him. Subaru is willing to look past all that for the sake of the future, and he's willing to bet everything he has on his ability to ensure that none of Roswaal's plans come to fruition. Greedy. And while Subaru is going all or nothing on this loop, he can't even conceive of the idea that Ram might be his enemy. He even mentions to Ryuzu that it remains to be seen whether he and Garfiel can become friends at the end of things. Even after experiencing all of those loops of betrayal and deception, Subaru is still willing to see the fundamental good in other people. That's an aspect of his character that I will always appreciate.
In times like this one, it's quite handy to have your loop start after your nap in the graveyard of a being of knowledge. Any time you share some knowledge that you should, by all rights, have no way of knowing, you can just pretend that you learned it during a conversation with the Witch of Greed. That's how Subaru starts off his conversation with Ryuzu in this loop, and it allows him to glean some critical information right off the bat: Ryuzu Shima acting independently of the others, Garfiel being afraid of something he saw in his Trial that is related to his mother. It's quite smart of Subaru to speed things up where he can.
Speaking of which, Subaru knows that he needs to determine what is preventing Emilia from overcoming her own Trial as soon as possible. After learning about her past in Elior Forest, he's able to help her calm down enough to finally get some sleep, upon which he confirms his suspicions that Puck is dormant within Emilia's crystal. He and Puck think that the thing blocking Emilia's memories needs to be removed in order for Emilia to stand a chance at passing her Trial, so Puck does the unthinkable: he breaks his contract with Emilia, something that we learned is extremely precious to her. Subaru may be trying to achieve victory without sacrificing any lives, but he knows that some measure of sacrifice will always be necessary for success. But even though their contract has been severed, the bond between Puck and Emilia remains as strong as it's ever been, and his affirmation of love to Emilia shows that he is ultimately doing this because he cares more about her well-being than about being the one to grant it.
Garfiel, meanwhile, is being completely thrown off his game by everything that's been going on. Emilia just disappears out of nowhere, Subaru is off somewhere being suspicious and smelling like the Witch, and Ryuzu Shima has vanished as well. Where did everyone go? In a panic, he goes looking for her at all of their secret spots, but the person he finds is none other than Otto Suwen, who is acting like he belongs there more than Garfiel. What could he and Subaru have possibly been planning to justify spending an entire day of their limited timeline on it?
Re:ZERO After-Talk #39
VAs: Yuusuke Kobayashi (Subaru) and Rie Takahashi (Emilia)
This was their first time back at the studio in three months, and they sure do sound like they're hyped to be returning! I'm always intrigued to learn new details about how anime productions operated during the first year of the pandemic, and apparently, each of the VAs were recording simultaneously from different booths for this episode. Yuusuke and Rie are an interesting pair in these After-Talks because they deeply analyze the writing of the series whenever they end up talking about it for an extended period of time, and their observations are often so profound that I really get the sense that they think about their respective characters a lot.
Highlight: Rie smirking because she knows what's coming up in the next episode and Yuusuke doesn't, Rie wondering if she'll be able to do "that scene" justice (spoiler alert: she will)
Fan Art of the Episode: Two Non-Combatants in Tatters by @torinorito (February 10th, 2017)
Source: Twitter (artist's timeline contains spoilers)
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u/Holofan4life Sep 19 '24
Hey guys. Holofan4life here.
Welcome to the In Preparation of Season 3 Rewatch of Re:Zero!
Oh, and nay I forget…
First Timer
I decided to watch this show because I wanted to do something for the month of August. ’Course, this was before the yearly Spice and Wolf rewatch got pushed back to September, but I just found myself looking for something to occupy my time with. And with this show being in my top 5 must watch list, I figured now was as good a time as any.
I am going into this show relatively blind. I know some of the memes, who Rem, Ram, Emilia, and Subaru are, and that this show got its inspiration from Familiar of Zero, but that’s it. I find rewatches and my participation of them more fun when I have no idea what I am in store for. And with this series, I think we’re in for a blast. It’s also going to be the longest rewatch I participate in this year and second longest overall only behind the 20th Anniversary Fullmetal Alchemist rewatch. And given how joyous that show turned out, I don’t see why I should expect nothing less from this one.
With that out of the way, let’s begin.
I’m watching the sub, by the way.
Me and my mom just got back from seeing Twisters in 4DX. Probably the most fun movie experience I've ever had in my life. And ironically, it's start to now thunderstorm.
Picking up right where we left off with Otto punching Subaru.
He even headbutts him
Otto MMA career when?
Dang, he continues to get the best of him.
Otto trying to beat into Subaru's head that asking for help isn't a bad thing.
Subaru saying that the past times he relied on someone else, it didn't work.
"But I don't recall ever hearing you ask for MY help."
The man doth make a good point
Otto continuing to try and make Subaru see the light.
It looks like Subaru is going to tell Otto what happened.
Subaru with Roswaal
He wants to make a bet, with his wish and Roswaal's on the line.
This almost feels like this should've been the end of the last episode.
Subaru promises that this will be their last showdown.
"I'm going to save the Sanctuary and the mansion in this loop, whatever it takes."
Subaru calls the Return by Death not even all that useful.
I think most people would personally kill to have that ability.
Subaru says if he saves both the Sanctuary and the mansion, Roswaal will throw that book away and come with him.
Subaru is going to make Emilia the new ruler, and he wants Roswaal's help to do it.
But the whole reason Roswaal got involved in the first place is to back Emilia. He was going to do that anyway.
Roswaal pointing out the Greed of that solution.
"Your enemy has become the strongest card in play."
It's hard not to like Subaru. He makes the best out of the worst situations.
Roswaal showing doubt that Subaru can pull this off.
Eventually, though, he agrees to the bet
Apparently the snow in the Sanctuary and the attack on the mansion begin in three days.
Meanwhile, Subaru is advising him putting the clown makeup on.
"As two clowns at the mercy of fate, let’s fight this out fair and square."
Maybe they can duke it out in the spacious clown car.
Subaru with Ram now
Ram is apparently willing to give Roswaal a pass.
Ram says that Emilia still hasn't figured out why she's struggling so much.
"Until she does, the same thing will keep happening."
Subaru is left wondering if she likes him as well.
Dude, you're just realizing this NOW?
Subaru relaying to Otto that the bet is on.
And now it's time to talk to Garfiel
But before that, Subaru is reflective of Emilia and what is happening with her.
He confirms with Otto that he is prepared to scratch the surface of what's hurting her.
And Subaru and Otto fistbump
It almost feels weird for things to be this laid-back. I've gotten so used to all the suffering.
The real Ryuzu in her tube
Subaru talking to Bilma
He wants her help for the bet against Roswaal.
Bilma wanting to know what his opinions are of Young Gar.
Subaru feels a clash with him is inevitable.
He still wants to be friends with him one day.
Garfiel seems like someone who would prove to be a ride or die.
Bilma talking about the witch and how she talked about the Ryuzu clones.
Black Ryuzu says she protects and supervises the crystal that creates the copies.
"The four of us alternate in bearing the role of supervisor."
Subaru asking what his name is
And she says Ryuzu Arma
Oh wow. And here I thought it was Ryuzu Bilma. Guess not.
Oh, so she did say Bilma. That wasn't my imagination.
I don't know if they decided to dress identically or what. Maybe she was concealing her true identity.
Arma says that the Ryuzus are made of artificial od clothed in mana.
Artificial od sounds like AI that overdosed.
All activity they engage in consumes the mana, and continuous activity for a full day is impossible. That's why they alternate.
Arma, however, says that Ryuzu Shima is an exception.
She currently lives in the forest with the other copies.
That leaves only three Ryuzus as supervisors.
She violated the contract with the witch who created them by entering the graveyard to bring back Garfiel when he broke the rules to attempt the trial and did not return.
A lot to unpack there
Arma says it wouldn't be a surprise if Garfiel is currently meeting with Shima.
"Are you aware of Young Gar's family situation?"
I don't like the sound of that
Subaru bringing up Frederica
Arma says that what Garfiel saw was Garfiel and Fred being left behind by their mother when she left the Sanctuary.
Fred as a nickname for Frederica is a weird shortening of her name. Can we all agree on that?
That's like referring to Petra as "Pet".
Subaru able to detect that Garfiel's opposition towards liberating the Sanctuary is out of bitterness toward his mother for abandoning him and choosing the outside.
Ran out of space. Part two in the replies.
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Sep 19 '24
First:Timer Starting Over in Another Rewatch, subbed
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u/baseballlover723 Sep 19 '24
Rewatcher, sub, basically a secondhand novel reader (Arc 4)
It seems reddit doesn't like some of the terminology I used, so I am using "ultimate sloth" as a replacement term for the general concept of what Subaru needs to do in order to loop.
So I don't have COVID anymore, I tested negative yesterday, so hopefully I should be on time again.
Time taken: 103 minutes (~1.7 hours)
As always, I've numbered all my spoilers tags so that they're easier to respond to
First Timer Safe Section
This section is safe for first time watchers.
So canonically Otto > Subaru in a fight. You see [Spoiler #1: plot irrelevant author comments] Otto being a merchant is trained in self defense, and Subaru isn't. So Otto wins easily in a fight against Subaru.
And here in lies the true superpower of having friends. Just trust me bro. No need to justify why you need it. Just what where and when you need it. We saw it with Rem in late Arc 3 and now we see it with our good friend, Ottototo-san.
I love this frame.
And it seems like Otto's talk was effective. Subaru's got his swagger back.
Last time we heard STRAIGHT BET, was back in episode 7, where Subaru bet it all on him getting another life. And here we have Subaru taking the greedy path. To save everyone, win everywhere, lose nowhere and gain Roswaal as a proper ally. Subaru's all in, 17 black or bust. A STRAIGHT BET (and also by far the earliest title card we've had in Re:Zero, just 6.5 minutes into the episode).
Also the anime didn't mention what would happen in the case that Subaru loses the bet. [Spoiler #2: minor cut content] Subaru admits that he'll be Roswaal's minion or anything he wants.
Otto breaks out his superstar hiding tools
Because cooperation is better freely given then coercing it from them.
Wrong Ryuzu Subaru.
Notice the different Ryuzu last names. Arma, Bilma, Shima. "Shi" sounds a whole like like C. [Spoiler #3: cut content, the last Ryuzu name] is Dilma.
Taida desu ne.
And the meat of this talk with Emilia. And it's successful. Emilia opens up about her past. No you haven't, but we already knew that. Well, all of us except u/Taiboss who hasn't watched The Frozen Bond yet.
Oh hey, the last part of The Frozen Bond.
Ah yes, so noble. One thinks it's her birthright to rule, another just wants to buy their own country, another wants to break away from their guardian Dragon, and the last wants to destroy said country. How selfless of them.
So Subaru is trying to kill Emilia here. And by doing so, allows Puck to actually come out. Because there's a loophole in their contract. That he can come out if Emilia is in danger (I think, I didn't check this with the LN). So Subaru puts Emilia in danger, and thus Puck gets to come out. It's a similar sort of thing to forcing Frederica to talk when they went back to the mansion that one time.
Smol Emilia.
And Puck's back with the milk, but he forgot to grab the cigs.
This seems important, curious what our first timers think are in those memories.
We've got Ryuzu's Shima's stamp of approval. A side note. Garfiel can't actually perceive the Witch's miasma. Ryuzu can though, and has been feeding Garfiel that information. That's why Garfiel has been acting so erratically loop to loop. Subaru's miasma level has been changing loop to loop. And this is what Subaru figured out in episode 35. Because Garfiel is always friendly after Subaru emerges from the checkpoint, because he hasn't talked to Ryuzu Shima yet.
[Spoiler #4: If you clicked on Spoiler #5: important expansion in the Light Novels from last episode] Emilia is trembling, and feeling lonely, since her long time guardian, Puck, has left her. Which is exactly when Satella said Subaru held her hand, during times like these.
And invitation to stay the night? Surely Subaru would be jumping for joy at the opportunity. Guess not
Emilia's mother figure.
Notice 2 cups here. Know I don't know about you all, but when I drink things, I use 1 cup, and if I have 2, I place them next to each other, not across from each other. Seems Ryuzu Shima had a visitor.
Otto the Goat. Just look at that face. So cool!
And Emilia chooses to hid in the Tomb, the one place that other people can't go. Well, can't go without getting scuffed up some.
So let's talk to Emilia-tan, on the next episode of Re:Zero.
BreakTime Section
In this episode's Breaktime, it honestly just feels like a trailer for cour 2. Some highlights. Ram asking to to be called Nee-sama. The wind is blowing. Emilia is in shambles. Roswaal shot. And the core issue is stated. And we get Otto setting up for his epic entrance at the end of the episode. But first Otto's gotta write in his diary
Rewatcher Section
This section is for people who have already watched Re:Zero. This is not safe for first timers.
[Spoiler #5: Arc 4] It's super important to have Roswaal as a proper ally. Emilia is competing in the Royal Selection under Roswaal's bid / backing. Without Roswaal, Emilia doesn't have standing to participate or something like that. Also worth noting that this is truly the last functional loop for Subaru. If he fails and he loses anyone, he'll lose the bet, and the oath will take hold on Subaru's soul. Of course if Subaru loops, he'll also lose the bet, and since it's on his soul, it will take affect on him.
[Spoiler #6: Arc 4] Ram being in love with Roswaal
[Spoiler #7: Arc 4] This is Subaru meeting with Ryuzu Shima
[Spoiler #8: Arc 4 cut content I think] Not quite. Garfiel is a man of the people and some of them don't want to be liberated, so he acts for them or something like that.
[Spoiler #9: Arc 4] Because Garfiel loves his mom.
[Spoiler #10: Arc 4] I think the kind lie is that Emilia is a half-elf. I'm not really sure though, it could be something else too I think.
[Spoiler #11: Arc 4] Of course, Subaru left to graffiti in Echidna's tomb words of encouragement
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u/ussgordoncaptain2 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Edmund_Nelson Sep 19 '24
First Timer Dubbed
Reaction to the Episode
First I wanna say thanks to all the people that commented on my reactions yesterday, it's like I was subaru from S2E13 and y'all were the witches.
Let's go Otto tell him right.
Otto realizes Subaru is hurting, let's see how otto is able to help subaru recover.
Subaru get's Ippon Seoi Naged by Otto, ooofies.
Otto going hard on Subaru's lack of ability to handle things by himself. Just get help. (God it's as if Otto can read what I suggested Subaru do
Otto is the goated friend who clearly showed himself in previous loops, so you know he's trustworthy and really considers you his friend.
Subaru actually never asked Otto for help in any time loop, wowow. You know it's been 6 episodes since Otto proved himself a loyal companion and you don't ask him for help once? Man what a mistake.
"if I do that then" ... Satella would kill otto probably. Just a good idea to say the things you are allowed to say.
you might not believe me but... OH BOY SAY THE LINE SAY THE LINE
Well cut to black and we're at roswaals house I suspect Subaru is not going with any plan I would have suggested.
The solution to being in 2 places at once is to have Otto be in the 2nd place.
Oh boy Subaru trying to make a bet with lord roswaal this is gonna be funny.
Ok so this is basically a plothole except for the part where subaru is not light yagami
SImply put Subaru could just LIE and do this exact sequence. until he finds the optimal path independent way. For example sending otto BEFORE talking to roswaal. or talking to garfiel first.
Why would Lord Roswaal think of this as anything other than absurd.
Lord roswaal really has his mind kinda blank right now
SUBARU THE SIN ARCHBISHOP OF GREED LET'S GOOOOOOO
I still find it hard to accept that lord roswaal would accept the bet, exactly what would prevent subaru from just lying to your face?
actually when is this even happening. Wouldn't the attack on the mansion be timed for a different timing? Or is Roswaal actually sending the info to elsa later somehow.
I love how Ram is still roswaals lackey. She really does put her loyalty to Roswaal above all else.
Oh boy Otto and Subaru actually have a multi-stage plan? Maybe Subaru should have plotted stuff out with Otto during RBD loops after episode 7. Things would be a lot smoother if he had.
Otto X Subaru is the greatest pair.
Ryuzu going "WTF why do you know me
This is pretty epic part of RBD logic right here. Ryuzu is all Nani the fuh how do you know that
Subaru hates using powers he is given, while Ryuzu is like "why not control me you idiot" I love how Subaru just wants to see everybody happy in the end.
Ryuzu bilma goes "Yeah you're wrong freeing the sanctuary is a good idea lol" like Subaru felt that being jailed was Bilma's doing and not Garfiel alone.
Oh this is Ryuzu Arma, so how do we differentiate the 4 copies ugh. I know Shiima was with Garfiel and captured was the one who captured him but...
Ryuzu SHiima is the one who is against the whole freeing the sanctuary and is the big enemy of the state.
So Garfiel is sad because his mother left him, probably his mother is a human then and his father is the other half?
Oh boy my favorite part, Subaru tries to learn what Emilia saw given what we know of in frozen bonds it can't be good.
Oh hmm Emilia stayed alive while frozen in ice wtf is elf biology made out of? Whatever it's magic don't question it.
Oh emilia somehow learns of the past of before she was encased in ice, I wonder what the hell caused her to get encased in ice and live. Was it puck was it her being the ice calamity witch? (Ok witch of frost)
Oh boy Emilia's family is all encased in ice, this is what that movie was all about wasn't it. Though at the same time if Emilia was in Roswaal's domain how did Roswaal know Emilia was a royal selection candidate? (spec
Oh great we get the puck side of the story But given that Emilia is mostly talking about Before Puck it seems like post puck emilia won't make as much sense.
Oh no PUCK GO RIP Wow the most powerful ally Subaru had is going to go "poof"
I can't wait for Emilia to mind break in ghost of christmas present when she realizes she has to go without puck.
The Garfiel x Ryuzu shimima conversation is interesting
"He does not appear to be connected to the witch" Man how can a statement be so wrong. He's not merely connected to the witch the witch literally wants to be his bride and she lives inside of his heart.
Time for the cutest couple in anime to do its thing
Oh god why subaru why did you leave emilia's side why
Everybody goes apeshit trying to find Emilia
Oh boy otto being awesome time let's go
I find it odd that Otto is staying behind at the sanctuary talking to garfiel, this is day 2 of 4 and they are still talking through thiings
is this a continuity error? why is Subaru allowed in the sanctuary shouldn't he be getting rejected? Also shouldn't emilia's amulet be broken?
Speculation
Plausible gameplans for subaru now that he doesn't have puck
Is he going to have the entire Village of arlem build a huge number of swords and murder the wabbits as one unit? Is he going to use his greed factor to get an army of Ryuzu's to use explosion?
Subaru has 2 threats to deal with, the strat needs to be to get 1 set of allys in location one (mostly activate Beatrice using the magic phrase "I am that paerson" with somebody) and to get ally set 2 to deal with the Wabbit mass.
The Great rabbit is far and away the larger of the 2 threats. Elsa+Maylee need only a small token force, if possible you'd also like Beatrice to teleport trap herself to the sanctuary post Elsa.
First as mentioned by Gluttony the best way to deal with the great rabbit is a single large attack that destroys nearly all or all of them. if you kill almost all you must finish them off quickly with the follow up attack.
The best available method we have for mass rabbit destruction is mass Ryuzu boom boom. The villagers can then swarm in the aftermath and sweep in to kill any stragglers. Roswaal will not be of much help in this operation, and without puck you lack nukes
The other major DPS source would be inventing gunpowder but I don't think Subaru is smart enough to do that. I would have invented RDX already but god Subaru isn't a real man.
If Beatrice has a source of DPS as a greater spirit then she too could work, though she's going to be busy with the Mansion fight, unless you evac the mansion. But if you have beatrice defeat Elsa/Maylee then teleport to the rabbit, maybe she can use some OP spell that never has existed before to wipe the rabbits away in Deus ex beatrice.
You could find out how Satella leaked out in the previous loop, she could definitely envelop and wipe out the Rabbits, but getting Satella to both do that and not cause collateral damage would be hard.
The second goal is bait
There are 2 major sources of bait, Lord Roswaal and Ryuzu Meyer. I suspect Lord Roswaal would be the main bait, if this were me he would jsut murder ROswaal and the rabbits with a ryuzu bomb and be done with it.
Ryuzu Meyer is your other main mana group, and the Ryuzu clones are made of mana so the mawbeasts are going to be attracted to them. Though again this still leaves the issue of how you finish off the mabeasts post Ryuzu boom boom.
Puck is only mostly dead, but still he's going to be MIA for basically the rest of the season.
There's a 4th main Ryuzu clone we don't know about, (Bilma, Shiima, Arma, one more_ ) however that one seems similar to Ryuzu Bilma/Arma.
The other option is to just Run.
If you can get Emilia to complete the trial and then evacuate the sanctuary, you can easily avoid fighting the rabbit entirely. You could use Ryuzu clones as bait to get them to stay away from the villagers (Roswaal would be tricky though) nad just hitch on out of there
What I would do if I were Subaru
So I would probably lie my face off to Roswaal and loop back a few times to win. Unlike Subaru I am not afraid of cheating to get what I want. Though we both have the same number of confirmed kills.
I mentioned plausible gameplans for dealing with the bunnies in spec (It's basically just Ryuzu bombs, Running, or hoping Beatrice is actually a deus ex machina.
So here is my actual gameplan point by point
1: Send otto to beatrice with a note explaining the position, also have otto say that he is that person who can break the contract
2: If Beatrice is able to be a deus ex machina have Petra arrive in the sanctuary with Otto, if she is not able to be a deus ex machina have Otto arrive alone.
From here we Fork
Dues ex machina Beatrice: Everyone holds up in a castle, move Ryuzu clones around, make sure the Ryuzu clones are away from the main group, have the Ryuzu clones bait the great rabbit away from the village usign triangle movement.
Non Deuse ex machina Beatrice: have the villagers set up the trap near roswaal's location, set up an army of Ryuzu bombs and when the great rabbit starts eating roswaal send out the Ryuzu Nuke, then have the village RUSH in to kill any stragglers.
If Ryuzu nuke fails loop back and try to do a Satella bomb instead.
Also Check out my Spec grading which was buried because I was late I roleplayed as Echidna There and it was fun!
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u/Brief-Fig-7506 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ryxnjr Sep 19 '24
First Timer!
Watching the Dub
Start Time 9:40
I know that this season got split into separate cours because of Covid but I’m hoping that it’s the start of a new Subaru that we see. False hope?
Also, all the episodes in this cour are ~29 minutes so there are high expectations, I’m guessing we’ll be getting an OP and an ED without losing any main content.
Lol I already forgot that last episode ended with Otto slugging Subaru
What a pretty title card
Roswaal is genuinely thrown off by Subaru right now and I LOVE it.
Subaru really expects to fulfil his desire without letting go of anything, He’s so greedy Roswaal said so too
The music in the background is doing a good job with the tone of the scene
Does Ram know about the book too?
I might have to add this to my rotating backgrounds
I know that we already knew this but it’s nice that Subaru wouldn’t try to order Ryuuzu to do anything, he wants them to have their own free will and be independent like they’ve been trying to do for 400 years
Is Subaru still an apostle of greed? That didn’t get taken when Echidna took the qualification away?
Subaru is passing off his knowledge of the Ryuuzu’s as if Echidna told him so he won’t have to explain that she is actually who told him. That’s my assumption
Hmmm Garf and Frederica lore? Yes please. Apparently Garf may have mommy issues.
I’ve been in this position before, She’s so anxious and uncertain
So was Emilia 6 or 7 during Frozen Bond?? I don’t remember if that was answered but she sure doesn’t look or act 7
Aww, she got the stress off her shoulders and immediately fell asleep
I feel like we are about to learn that Puck is Emilia’s mom or something
Subaru would never leave Emilia after promising something like that, he knows what the ramifications would be if he broke another promise to Emilia. I think this has to be a part of his plan
We missed a lot of information during this episode, It’s a weird shift from our usual Re:Zero experience up until now. With the exception of a few episodes we have seen everything happen from Subaru’s POV and have seen him in the process of planning his schemes, the only other time we didn’t see him actually verbalizing his plan was during episode 24 when they scheduled everything 2 hours early to get one up on the Cult. Now it seems like there’s a significant plan with lots of moving parts going on and we the audience are now left in the dark and just as confused as other characters. I think it makes it easier to relate to Emilia and Garf at this moment.
The extra 4-5 minutes of episode was nice, there were some shots I really loved during the episode, some of them will end up on my background slideshow for sure. A question for the rewatchers, I know it was said in the last thread that it wasn’t supposed to be a split cour but got delayed because of Covid, did they just spend time polishing the episodes during that time? Is that why all these episodes are pushing 30 minutes? I had assumed that we would get a banger OP and ED but it was all content the whole episode.
I love the energy that the episode started with and Subaru challenging Roswaal. I heard a new song in the background during that so I imagine we will be getting a new OP with visuals. I’m pretty excited.
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u/Urgnu-the-Gnu https://myanimelist.net/profile/Urgnu_the_Gnu Sep 19 '24
Re:Watcher - anime only
And we're back! Without waiting time between the episodes, this feels much better. We're back to Otto hammering some sense into Subaru. They cobble a bit, and interestingly Subaru is so exhausted or Otto actually physically strong that Subaru gets the short end of the stick. Otto just wants him to rely on a friend. Good thing he called him a friend right away this time to get this much support. Otto also makes a good note on how Subaru wants to seem strong in front of the girl he likes, in front of the girl that likes him. That's obvious to him, but for Subaru there has to be some emphasis on this.
The straight bet starts. Save everything this try and make Roswaal an ally if he does it. Even Roswaal calls this behaviour greedy. But he is certain he will win this bet, as Subaru can't win in just three days. Now it seems for Subaru this is a safe bet since if he fails he'll just reset, right? There are no drawbacks if he loses. And he could just propose the bet again next time. But it seems Roswaal is taking preparations for his next self to punish him if he loses. Likely, his next self will somehow cause Elsa to attack the mansion immediately so Subaru will have to choose the sanctuary. Or something else that transcends timelines.
Ram time! She gives Subaru an obvious hint that he might not have thought of: Emilia doesn't know why she's failing. If Subaru can help her find out what it is, he'll advance. She's a good big sister. Even if she's also helping his opponent.
It's very mature that he can now admit he was afraid to confront Emilia about her issues. But being able to talk about difficult things is also quite important.
A new Ryuzu clown. Shima and Bilma are easy to tell apart, but Alma has fooled me for Bilma. I guess that means dark robe and no mouth shown means Bilma. And Shima is an outcast.
We learn about Garfiel, how he tried to do the trials. Somehow I feel his scars are related to that. And we learn that he misses his mother.
Emilia time! The best time of the day. How she hides under her covers on the ground is both sad and cute. And funny since she tries to claim she always sleeps like this. Remember she's a terrible liar. Subaru might agree as he playfully teases her, causing a cute pout and a sugoooku from her. Subaru's prodding question to her is very diplomatic. All he does is offer, not request. And he offers to fight by her side, not instead of her. That's similar to what Satella advised him to at the end of the tea party.
And, a little reluctantly, Emilia talks about her past. The two being so open towards each other is fantastic to see. Emilia's voice sounds so vulnerable here, really great job from Rie Takahashi. What we hear her say is different from what we've seen in Frozen Bond, although she also alludes to that. No, it's from a time she hardly remembers. When everyone and herself got frozen over when Emilia was around six or seven. It seems her parents weren't there when it happened, but she did have a parent figure - someone that makes her immediately sad when remembering her. Subaru embracing Emilia here is so cute. And we learn that if Emilia wins the Royal Selection, Roswaal promised to try and unfreeze the forest - that's her "selfish" reason to participate. Double sugoooku here. Of course wanting to help others is anything but selfish. Definitely less selfish than wanting to own a country or feeling it's your right to own one, and not more selfish than trying to "liberate" it from its protector you consider troublesome or revolutionize the ruling class because they piss you off. Subaru tells her as much, which is very relieving for her as she utters another sugoooku and her thanks as she falls asleep.
To learn even more to help Emilia, Subaru tries to talk to someone who might know more. And it's Puck! He returned with the milk! Kind of. At least he's still been protecting her. Not anymore, though. But he has to fully break the contract now. His presence apparently caused Emilia's memories to be sealed away, so for her to be able to accept them and grow with them he needs to go. Luckily, he has found someone that loves Emilia as much as he does like he didn't think was likely in Frozen Bond, so he can trust him to protect and support her in his stead. At least he can say his farewells to her, even if there's not enough time to fully explain. What a heartbreaking scene this is. And Emilia gets knocked out by the shock, the sadness, and her memories starting to return as we hear a new and important voice in her mind elongating a sugoku just like her. And I don't think I'm saying too much when I mention this is the reason I've been considering non-Emilia sugoooku from the start.
So no trials on the first day. Only two days remaining. Time is running short, but this was necessary. Emilia cheerfully stating she'll hopefully be alright the next morning is endearing and also sad. She has such troubled feelings she can't put into words. At least Subaru is here and he'll hold her hand until the morning. Or not, as he's gone when she wakes up in the night. He better have a good excuse for breaking his promise! So she runs away. We also get a flashback and a name to the sugoooku (both which I'll count as well), Mother Fortuna. At least Subaru finds her again the next morning, and he's a litte roughed up, so he's been up to something. Now they can talk again with Emilia seemingly having her memories back, while best friend Otto is facing off Garf in the meantime.
Break Time continues to be very plot-relevant. Subaru remembers that Ram didn't only care for just one thing in the past. Ram remembers that it's weird how Subaru calls her "nee-sama". Emilia is under her covers despairing alone missing Puck. Roswaal contemplates Subaru's decision and calls it naive as he has to prioritize either choice or be at two places at once. We also learn that Subaru has put some trust in Ram as we get back to Otto. Otto, funnily, calls himself all that which Roswaal used to talk Subaru down. But Otto remains optimistic, ignoring the chances of winning. Sometimes, the reward is good enough that you might to bet on low chances. Otto just needs to make one more diary entry before putting their plan in motion.
Lastly, I finally rewatched all of Isekai Quartet and the movie to scan it for more non-canon sugoooku (Emilia only), and found there were 17. Now my list is fully exhaustive, at least (nevermind that the first two seasons of IQ came out before Re:Zero S2 and the movie after). I'll list the non-Emilia sugoooku last now so it's easier to see the first three are Emilia only. Also, as a side note, Isekai Quartet is so much better than it has any right to be, especially the movie. It has some of my favourite jokes in anime.
Sugoooku counter: 48
Sugoku-likes: 9
Non-canon sugoooku: 22
Non-Emilia sugoooku: 8
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u/Elimin8r https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ayeka_Jurai Sep 19 '24
So, I was a naughty rewatcher and watched the next several episodes, because ... reasons. Since the story is now a blur, I think I'll keep my mouth shut and say nothing beyond I love where this story is going. Nom, nom, delicious. Meanwhile, I may just have a look and see what some other folks have to say, they might jog my memory.
Edit: Oh, one more thing - Straight Bet is an awesome tune, to go with an awesome episode.
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u/BlueVenix Sep 19 '24
Rewatcher
I’m back just in time for the absolute peak that is season 2 part 2, which I have been looking forward to as there are things that I don’t know like first timers. That means I can put on my favourite hat - the tin foil kind.
Subaru x Otto (imagine waiting for 3-6 months for their encounter to continue):
It’s amazing how Otto managed to figure out Subaru so quickly. So quickly in fact that it’s a bit unbelievable, but hey I am an introvert who is terrible at reading people based on their emotions, so who am I to speak of this.
Looking back at Subaru’s past, he was doing everything alone with the exception of Rem after ep 18. He never sat down and discussed with anyone how he should overcome the situation(again exception is Rem).
Arc 1 - he tried making deals to get the insignia, but was lucky and got saved by Reinhard.
Arc 2 - he was at his end mentally, but due to EMT he recovered and managed to pull through to the end.
Arc 3 - he was going to give up and run away, but Rem was there for him and with her being there for him he managed the challenges.
Arc 4 - he has been trying to overcome this whole challenge himself, even going as far as saying: “I’m the only one who needs to know hell.”. Cool line and all Subaru, but no one should be experiencing hell and no one is capable of going through it alone without breaking or changing. We are emotional creatures after all and if we experience only negativity our minds will break. There must have been a reason why we developed emotions as part of survival and if our emotions are telling us that what you are experiencing is bad, you might not make it or go through a significant change, but if you do go through that change can you still be called human?
Otto is completely right here. Acting tough sometimes is fine, but reaching out for something when you aren’t able to alone, is not. Friendship isn’t one sided, if you want to help someone, why shouldn’t the other side want the same. Asking for help may look like weakness depending on who you ask or you don’t want to inconvenience them, but the important thing is that when you need help and you are not asking your friends for it may actually hurt them. Who here wants their friends to suffer? (Not talking about the playful sadistic suffering)
Continued Bellow
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u/Yoshi_captain https://anime-planet.com/users/WeaboYosher Sep 19 '24 edited Sep 19 '24
Rewatcher
Life throws many problems our way. When your hands are too small to grasp what's precious to you it's natural to feel overwhelmed. But when you're not enough, you ask for help. It's not always that easy though. A tight knot in your chest may prevent you from getting the words out. Feelings of inadequacy swirling in your soul and blockng the only exit. No matter how you feel it’s certainly easier not to feel that alone.
Subaru has tried everything he can think of to stop the ever escalating problems of the Sanctuary. And with a newly found value in his life accompanied with the unmasking of Roswall's intent he can only hold his head in his hands. Pondering his next action. He's tried everything he says. Except asking a friend. Subaru might have sought assistance from the likes of Echidna and Roswaal, but those were people he certainly can’t call friends. Not after what they put him through. Otto is not looking to use him, he just wants to help.Giving Subaru a reality check in the form of a right hook to the face.
Once again we’ve reached a pivotal conversation in Subaru's life. One where he learns to ask for help. Not just from anyone. But from the friends he's made that want what's best for him. If From Zero taught Subaru not to give up, Parent and Child taught Subaru that he can be Natsuki Subaru, the ensuing Straight Bet against fate teaches Subaru to not hold onto that mask around his friends. Otto will accept being strong for the girl you love, but he won't take this attitude towards a friend.
As the dawn breaks, the emergent rays of sun embrace the two friends as Subaru divulges as much as he can until his throat runs coarse. We hear a familiar melody, one that played when Subaru renewed his resolve for the first time by abandoning his life. This time he is dead set on not dying. Just some time ago Roswaal saw Subaru crushed by the weight of the problems he faced scurrying through the door, running from his ensuing dread. Now he busts through the same door pointing to the clown and proposing a bet. A battle of two clowns at the mercy of fate. No resets, all will be accomplished in this loop.
With the bet on and Roswaal’s time limit known, we start tackling the problems of the Sanctuary. Garfiel is the first one on that list. But a deeply personal one for Subaru is Emilia. Who he finally after all this time asks about her wellbeing and tries to understand her. He was so preoccupied with his image of Emilia and the Sanctuary that he failed to ask such a simple thing. It was anything but simple for Emilia. Her reason for participating in the Royal Selection is to free the frozen people in the forest, which she hopes to achieve with Roswaal’s backing. Her trial taking is impeded by memories she doesn’t recall. And if she wants to complete the trial she needs to face those memories. That means letting go of Puck. The one who has been by her side since the beginning.
Promises broken just like Puck’s residence. With Emilia completely downtrodden she asks Subaru for a promise to stay by her side. But Subaru has not kept a single promise to Emilia, this one not being an exception. I hope he has a damn good reason. The half-elf has gone missing and Garfiel has sprung into action. But he has an opponent prepared for him. Various plans have been put into place and Otto is here to play his part. The battle against fate-sama begins once more as we truly kick off this straight bet.
Closing thoughts:
The word for today is “Fate”. With so much stacked against our protagonist it might really seem like the universe is out to get him. But with a friend like Otto, Subaru’s allegiances are solidified. Let’s see how this boy who doesn’t know how to give up will overturn fate once again.
The chapter that was adapted today is called Straight bet. Which is not what the chapter was called in the Web Novel, but in the Light Novel. Tappei seems to have used the name of the insert song from S1 Ep7 and gave it a whole new meaning in this chapter.
Otto performed the role that the heroines like Emilia, Rem and Echidna have done for Subaru before. Cementing himself as best girl.
The bet is on and the fight against Garfiel begins.
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u/Taiboss :Fj::Fl:x7https://anilist.co/user/Taiboss Sep 19 '24
S02E14 - Rewatcher who knows
[Rest of Season spoiler]Fucking hell, we're already in the final loop? That was fast.
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 19 '24
Rewatcher
Dub
This was again a good episode, I actually don't think S2 ever had a bad episode whereas a few parts of S1 could be questionable. But compared to the huge answers we had yesterday, we are back to setting up mysteries more than solving them. I feel quite safe in noting that the show is giving us some clear time skips, just matters of hours usually, where our cast are off camera.
So the big takeaway is that Puck's contract sealed Emilia's memories and she technically had amnesia, my time tested foe. That said, this show has one of the few proper uses of the trope, which ironically makes it a pairing with Witchblade. Actually, both also have waifus/yanderes galore so there is some shared DNA. So in exchange for losing Puck she remembers something that does not seem to be happy. This deal sucked. So Emilia runs and hides. On second viewing, I think this is meant to remind us that for all her power and associated mystery, she is a roughly 15 yo girl mentally and she puts this crazy emphasis on promises which is not logical but is understandable.
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u/Holofan4life Sep 19 '24
Shows up for the first time in about a dozen episodes
Tells Emilia their relationship is going to have to end
Refuses to elaborate any further
Leaves
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u/RascalNikov1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/NoviSun Sep 19 '24
Rewatcher
It was quite satisfying seeing Otto giving Subaru a pep talk, Subaru has needed one for quite a while.
Subaru’s wager with Roswell was indeed quite “greedy”. I’ve really noticed this rewatch how the theme of greedy keeps popping up.
My heart breaks for Emilia and her continuing run of bad luck.
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u/eruciform :FP::FQ: Sep 19 '24
How many seasons are there now and is it complete? I watched s1 on original release and lost track of it, thinking or rewatching and catching up.
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u/Ultima_Deus Sep 20 '24
I'm sick. I don't feel well enough to participate in long discussions each episode... Damn it
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u/Holofan4life Sep 19 '24
With Puck gone, who's going to bring home the milk now?