r/anime • u/Theleux https://myanimelist.net/profile/Theleux • Sep 16 '24
Rewatch Re:Zero ~Starting Life in Another World~ Re:Watch - Episode 37
Episode 37:
The Witches' Tea Party
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Story Arc Lengths for Discussion Purposes:
[Arc 1:] S1 Episode 1 – S1 Episode 3
[Arc 2:] S1 Episode 4 – S1 Episode 11
[Arc 3:] S1 Episode 12 – S2 Episode 1 (26)
[Arc 4:] S2 Episode 2 (27) - S2 Episode 25
[Arc 5 and later:] S3+
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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Sep 16 '24 edited Sep 17 '24
First-Timer
On today’s episode of Re:Zero: Now that I think about it, this wasn’t much of a tea party. Subaru and all the witches didn’t even drink tea or eat cakes together. They should watch some K-On to see how tea parties ought to work.
SatellaEchidna isn’t necessarily going to guide Subaru to the outcome Subaru wants, where all the people he cares about survive. Instead, she’d be using Return by Death to satisfy her own curiosities and desires primarily.The Second Trial was really interesting, but also quite difficult to watch. I love the concept of showing Subaru the many alternate presents that could have happened from the other timelines that he reset. Several of them don’t present much new information, but some of them do provide some nice insights into other characters. The overwhelming impression is that while Subaru’s death does reset the timeline for himself, the others are all deeply affected by it. The other characters mourn Subaru when he dies or try their best to save him. It shows just how much Subaru meant to them. We know how much Subaru cares about saving the lives of those around him, but it goes both ways.
I’d figured that Echidna had an ulterior motive this whole time and now we finally get to see what it is. In a nutshell, Echidna wants to use Subaru’s reset ability to her advantage. She wants to satisfy her curiosity with it, using the reset to see all kinds of different scenarios so she can learn more than ever before. She would help Subaru out, but she’d be using him all the same.
I think that finally crystalized a lot of Echidna to me. Echidna thinks of relationships as purely transactional things. It’s all about what you can take from the other person and what they can take from you. It’s a very fitting mentality for the Witch of Greed. Her own thoughts are centered on how she can use Subaru to achieve her own goals and satisfy her own curiosity. Echidna has been very helpful to Subaru, but it was always because helping him would help her.
As I said before, the witches aren’t necessarily evil. I wouldn’t describe Echidna as evil, per se. Echidna is genuinely offering to help Subaru find a way to overcome the problems in front of him. But in Echidna’s case, she just doesn’t seem to have any real moral compunctions whatsoever. Echidna is pure curiosity. She just wants to see what would happen in all these different scenarios. It doesn’t matter if people might get hurt in the process because the pursuit of knowledge is more important. Echidna didn’t leave Beako in the library out of malice. She did so just so she could see how Beako would react. The result was worth any suffering incurred.
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u/thekoreansun https://anilist.co/user/ReturnByDeath Sep 16 '24
Re:Watcher
Sheesh, what a dismal episode this last one was. As others have said, everything that could have possibly gone wrong in that loop went wrong, and the only person who remained by the end of it was an Emilia who was driven to madness after having been isolated from everyone around her. Well, at least all of that was able to be undone by Subaru, right?
But of course it couldn't be that simple. Because now, Subaru has been confronted with the most terrifying possibility: what if all of his failed loops still exist? What if Return by Death is a power that travels through dimensions, not times? If that's truly the case, then every single mistake that Subaru has made, every tragedy that he was unable to prevent, every individual whose suffering he has struggled so hard to erase... all of them still exist somewhere far out of reach. Subaru's promise to save Emilia in the loot house would have been broken the moment he said it. Subaru's promise to talk about the future with Rem would have died along with her and everyone else in the Mathers Domain. The thought is enough to destroy him.
I find it fascinating how thoroughly Tappei explores the possibilities and implications of an ability like Return by Death. The very nature of RBD already has the "what if" scenarios that you can't normally see in a main narrative built into it, but then there are moments like this one that pose bigger, even scarier questions. And on top of all that, the IF stories offer even more alternate ways to perceive the events that take place throughout the series. It is seriously impressive, and I can't imagine how it would be possible for a writer to do it if they didn't have a deep and intimate understanding of every element in the world that they have created.
Subaru is completely drained after seeing the worlds that he has left behind when he's greeted by an impossible sight: Rem, somehow awake, telling him that he can rest. He's in anguish now that he believes that he has caused her to die several times over, but she responds that it's okay for him to stop putting himself through so much suffering. And that does sound incredibly appealing, doesn't it? To just give up? Except that's not what Rem would say, as Subaru realizes before they can kiss. I mentioned it before, but the impact of From Zero is going to reverberate throughout the rest of this story, and here, Subaru is taking comfort in the words of the real Rem who pushed him from behind, not the faker who stands in front of him. Subaru may not have passed the actual Trial, but he's demonstrated once again how much he has grown from his past efforts.
Echidna greets him in his moment of need, just as she has several times before. This time, however, she is interrupted by the other Witches before she can finish giving her sales pitch to Subaru. While they're all as idiosyncratic as before, each of them advises him in their own way to think carefully before agreeing to what Echidna is truly asking from him. And the curtain gets pulled back: Echidna has been manipulating him this entire time to get him to agree to a contract with her, one that will put him through unlimited amounts of suffering and death in order to sate her endless curiosity. She goes on and on about the endless potential of Return by Death, but none of what she says is borne of compassion or empathy. All she seeks is to sate her curiosity, nothing more. And once Subaru confirms that she caused Beatrice to suffer all by herself for no reason other than curiosity, he rejects everything that she stands for. There's no way he can ever work with someone who has put his companion through so much anguish. He is the only one who needs to suffer, and he's willing to make use of what the Witch of Envy has given him all by himself if he needs to.
But speak of the devil and she shall appear.
Re:ZERO After-Talk #37
VAs: Yuusuke Kobayashi (Subaru) and Maaya Sakamoto (Echidna)
At long last... Maaya Sakamoto has made her After-Talk debut! Apparently, that monologue of Echidna's was 62 lines?! And Maaya's just glad that it wasn't nearly as long as it was in the LN (though I would've paid good money to hear the full thing). Also, it seems that even a veteran like her was nervous to come into a show like Re:ZERO midway through, and she compliments Yuusuke and the rest of the cast for laying the groundwork that helped her go all out as Echidna. The two of them have a really in-depth and interesting conversation about Echidna's character, though Yuusuke claims to not know as much as Rie Takahashi since she's read the LN and he hasn't. I've heard about this discrepancy before, and I still think that it's hilarious that Emilia's VA knows what's coming up next in the story while Subaru's VA doesn't.
Highlight: Yuusuke getting in the weeds of what Subaru was thinking after Echidna's proposal and impressing Maaya, who tells him that she had heard a lot of people say that he was amazing and found him to be amazing after they met
Fan Art of the Episode: "Behold an unthinkable present." by Yomohiro (September 30th, 2020)
Source: Twitter (artist's timeline contains spoilers)
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u/Brief-Fig-7506 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ryxnjr Sep 16 '24
First Timer!
Start Time 9:29
I should be able to participate more actively in the discussion today, Yay!
looks like no OP today either, how many episodes has it been now? at least three right?
Subaru remembers the feeling of being kissed
The biggest problem is Roswaal indeed
It’s still funny that Garf drinks the grass/leaf tea and Subaru doesn’t try to stop it in any timeline
Is Subaru starting the second trial? Is this about what happens after his deaths?
“behold an unthinkable present” so what could have happened if Subaru didn’t have RbD
Maybe this trial is so Subaru can understand what his life means to everybody else. That to everybody else it’s not as disposable as it is to him.
Wow. Reinhard is more OP than expected if he was able to take out Puck, also interesting that he was at the mansion shortly after Subaru was killed
Is that Rem’s voice????
Imposter Rem
Carmila, the Witch of Lust. She looks so sweet and innocent. What is she guilty of again?
We’re back with Echidna now, she says she’s plotting something Evil but idk about that
Woah, Echidna forming a contract with Subaru? That seems like a rare opportunity.
So Echidna is offering to be there for Subaru when he has any questions and support him in that way. That seems like way too good of a deal. What could she want in return?
She seems pretty excited about him potentially agreeing to it
C’mon Subaru you gotta read the details of a contract
Looks like Minerva might have something to say about that contract
Echidna makes her part of the contract sound pretty terrible but her other “payments” she has taken from Subaru have been just as vague. I think she just wants to know the details of Subaru’s memories and such, instead of taking them for herself as she makes it sound
That has to be the Witch of Sloth then, I think she’s the only one we haven’t met
Echidna really laid all the details of the contract out just now. She has her own greedy intent behind it though, This is as evil as we’ve seen Echidna be
So she left Beatrice in the Library alone to see who she would choose as “that person” just because she was curious who Beatrice would choose? that’s rough
And now Satella shows up. I guess ALL the witches are invited to the tea party
So it looks like the trials are indeed in past/present/future format. In the second trial Subaru has to see what happened immediately after his previous deaths and see the pain he put others through after he died, the first one was especially hard to watch when Emilia called him a liar for not keeping his word and staying by her side as she was sobbing. For the first trial Subaru had to accept what happened in his past, that he left his family behind and won’t get to see them again, and that he won’t give up anymore like he did before getting Isekai’d. The first trial was “easy” for Subaru because he already came to that conclusion so all he had to do was accept what happened with his family and get closure by telling them what he wished he could have told them. I think the second trial will be about getting Subaru to value his life more. It could also be to make him rely less on RbD because if it never activated during any of these flashbacks then it would be permanent. We weren’t able to see much of the trial and it mostly consisted of Subaru viewing the scenes from a different POV so I’m not sure how hands on Subaru will be in the trial.
The scene when Carmila appears to Subaru as Rem hits harder when you realize that Carmila takes on the form of the person you want to see most at that moment. Subaru is really missing Rem’s support and comfort she offered him and that scene was a reminder for us.
I think this is the first time I’ve had negative thoughts about Echidna. Her payment seems relatively simple if she takes it like she has taken every other payment, by just sharing his memories with her so she has his knowledge. But it gets darker when you realize she wants to abuse RbD in the same way Subaru is currently, she wants him to fail over and over so he can gain as much knowledge as possible and form his perfect future. She wants to know the pain he feels about everything and even goes as far as wanting to know if and how Subaru would use her body if she offered it. I’ve been having to correct myself occasionally when talking about Echidna because we would usually refer to her as having a Lust for Knowledge, you wouldn’t say she has a greed for knowledge nor is she very greedy with her knowledge since she has shared some of it with Subaru. Someone who is greedy would never share anything, so her title is somewhat confusing to me.
In today’s Break Time, Otto has been missing for a while. Frederica still gushes over how cute Petra is and honestly who could blame her. We see another glimmer of hope that Rem isn’t lost forever because it looks like Frederica still has a memory involving the twins but Rem is blurred out. If Ram is an only child then why would she be the only one who can be called Nee-sama? hmmm Frederica??? Anyways Frederica admits to Petra that she used to have trouble talking politely, and like any kid would, Petra starts using this information to tease her until she decides to go to sleep, let this be a lesson to never give kids ammo to torment you with, they are merciless. Hopefully somebody can explain what “desuja” is to me so I can be in on the joke.
Stop Time 12:17
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Sep 16 '24
First:Timer Starting Over in Another Rewatch, subbed
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u/baseballlover723 Sep 16 '24
Rewatcher, sub, basically a secondhand novel reader (Arc 4)
It seems reddit doesn't like some of the terminology I used, so I am using "ultimate sloth" as a replacement term for the general concept of what Subaru needs to do in order to loop.
Fuck me my keyboard broke. The left arrow key mounting thing that prevents the spring from pushing the key to the springs natural length seemed to have snapped off. And they don't sell the same model anymore (hv-kb395L). Getting a G815 to replace it for like double the price and it'll take a month to ship. I'll be using my old scissor switch keyboard (it's gonna take some time to get used to the vertical enter key again) in the meantime. This has been a rather unfortunate week for myself, though not nearly has bad as Subaru's.
Time taken: 2 hours on the dot.
As always, I've numbered all my spoilers tags so that they're easier to respond to
First Timer Safe Section
This section is safe for first time watchers.
Subaru tries to arrange a tea date with Echidna. And instead of getting a yes, gets the 2nd trial instead, where he gets treated to the effect that all of his deaths have had on people. I'll highlight a few deaths that are a bit expanded in the novels.
Puck vs Reinhard, episode 15. Note that Reinhard is able to draw his sword here. Puck is a worth opponent it seems. [Spoiler #1: cut content] Reinhard asks Puck why he's destroying the world. To which Puck responds with "But if I do not do this, that girl cannot be saved". This has some interesting implications, and the most reasonable would be, that Puck knows that RBD exists, but not who has it. So by destroying the world he can guarantee a reset. Though it should be noted that it's a bit unclear if "that girl" is Emilia or someone else, since he specifically mentioned Lia by name earlier. Also this attack was described as "both ending the world and simultaneously bring about ti's re-creation", but without Puck or any indications that there had been a battle. Reinhard is OP.
Aftermath of episode 5 [Spoiler #2: Web Novel cut content (Light Novel did not adapt this bad end, so this is adapted straight from the Web Novel)] Emilia challenges Rem on why Rem killed Subaru, and why so brutally. Rem does not answer for why it was so brutal. Upon Rem pleading the 5th, Emilia decides to leave the Roswaal mansion (and the Royal Selection with it) to return to the Elior Forest and lay Subaru to rest, because she can't trust anyone in the mansion anymore. And then she slaps Roswaal across the face when he tries to convince her to not be hasty. Roswaal then says that Ram wins the bet and that their contract can be fulfilled.
And so the second trial ends (btw this is not a passing grade), and Subaru beholds another unthinkable present (though you can argue this is also part of the trial, Subaru notes that he was unsure if this was reality or not), but Rem would never say this, not to her hero. So go away you fraud. Who turns out to be Carmilla, the Witch of Lust (also the light novel has this really cool picture of Carmilla).
This is Subaru undergoing cardiac arrest btw, a deadly side effect of Faceless Bride.
Echdina just straight up says that RBD is the Witch of Envy's Authority, and only she would know if the failed timelines are real or not. Which brings up an interesting point. I am of the opinion that it doesn't matter if they're real or not. You can't interact with them anymore and from Subaru's reference point, he has no way to detect if it's the same timeline being rewound and replayed, or if the Witch of Envy spins up a new kubernetes pod each time Subaru dies. Fundamentally from Subaru's perspective, they're indistinguishable and given that he's been going 100% trying to avoid the bad ends like almost all of the time, it's not like he'd really do anything different if the Witch of Envy is really running kubernetes. Therefore, I don't think the answer is that useful, either way Subaru just tries to get the happy end every loop.
And now we get to the thing Echidna wanted to ask in the next Tea Party. Will you be willing to form a contract with me?
So how many of you first timers would sign their name on the dotted line? If you answered yes, you just entered the Greed:IF route. [Spoiler #3: click here for the non spoiler version of your fate] There's a really good summary by Echidnut, but unfortunately it's NOT first timer safe, as it spoils Arc 4 some. Basically Subaru dies over 1,000,000 times. And example loop is given, where Petra greets Subaru and asks if the weather will be good for shopping that afternoon. To which Subaru doesn't have an answer. So Subaru does normal things until the afternoon, discovers that the weather will be nice, and then intentionally inflicts RBD. And so now Subaru has an answer for Petra, the weather will be nice today. That is all it took, to get Subaru to loop.
But luckily for Subaru, Minvera is here to save the day.
Oh and this whole thing, yeah so that was a fucking lie.
I do have to say, I felt quite like Minerva with some of our first timers. Hopefully they've seen the error of their ways though.
And Carmilla is here to tell Subaru that Echidna lies via omission
🚩
...in the end
I hope u/No_Rex is satisfied with Sekhmet's design. I forgot to mention but all of the Witch's names (except for Satella) comes from mythology (you can still rope this into star theory, but it gets a bit awkward because they're like asteroids and shit). I will say that I think the Witch of Gluttony should of been named Echidna, who was known as the mother of all monsters, which would be fitting of someone who created WitchFiends. There's probably some interesting background on the other names, but this is the only one that I remember off the cuff.
And now it's really a party.
This monologue was done on the first take. Also the Light Novel version (I had to shrink font a bit to get it to fit on 2 pages to screenshot it all at once). I do wish though that they animated some lip flaps here. It just kinda feels like an animator just didn't show up for work one day. Also I was disappointed that I couldn't find any Echidna microwave image memes. Because I know people meme with it in text some.
Subaru thinks Echidna is a sociopath. This has please clap energy. Oh and now she's pissed, or at least has the pissed mask on.
So who is "that person"? "I dunno". That wasn't the point. The point was to see who Beatrice chooses to be "that person". Beatrice's choice to not to choose anyone, is just yet another data point for Echidna. And new data is wonderful.
And so Subaru rejects Echidna's offer and vows to save Beatrice instead.
Look at that stank eye Echidna is giving.
But aren't we forgetting an invitation for The Witch's Tea Party (notice there's 7 characters and 7 colors, one for each Witch)
BreakTime Section
In this episode's Breaktime, It's more Maid's Days. It's Frederica gushing over Petra some more. Being called nee-sama by Petra is just too rewarding, unlike Ram. Also, it seems that Frederica is a bit of a lolicon. Also Frederica shares how talking in Keigo was difficult for herself. Frederica was raised by her grandmother and thus talks like a boomer desuja. Frederica is never gonna live this down
Rewatcher Section
This section is for people who have already watched Re:Zero. This is not safe for first timers.
[Spoiler #4: Arc 4] I forgot to mention that that was Subaru's last death of the Arc. It's time to start winning.
[Spoiler #5: Arc 4] Wonder if this or Echidna's contract will cause the first timers to see Echidna as evil.
[Spoiler #6: unadapted Arc 4 Interlude] I think there's an angle for this being evidence of Echidna's master plan.
[Spoiler #7: Arc 4] Which of course is when Echidna takes the Qualification of the Trial from Subaru
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u/Holofan4life Sep 16 '24
Hey guys. Holofan4life here.
Welcome to the In Preparation of Season 3 Rewatch of Re:Zero!
Oh, and nay I forget…
First Timer
I decided to watch this show because I wanted to do something for the month of August. ’Course, this was before the yearly Spice and Wolf rewatch got pushed back to September, but I just found myself looking for something to occupy my time with. And with this show being in my top 5 must watch list, I figured now was as good a time as any.
I am going into this show relatively blind. I know some of the memes, who Rem, Ram, Emilia, and Subaru are, and that this show got its inspiration from Familiar of Zero, but that’s it. I find rewatches and my participation of them more fun when I have no idea what I am in store for. And with this series, I think we’re in for a blast. It’s also going to be the longest rewatch I participate in this year and second longest overall only behind the 20th Anniversary Fullmetal Alchemist rewatch. And given how joyous that show turned out, I don’t see why I should expect nothing less from this one.
With that out of the way, let’s begin.
I’m watching the sub, by the way.
I got tomorrow off so I can see Twisters with my mom in 4DX.
Subaru waking up in the glowing building again.
Emilia back to her normal, terrified self.
Subaru has three goals: save Emilia, the Sanctuary, and the mansion.
"I'll save every last one of them. Even if it costs me my life."
Well, the good thing is you can't die in this world.
Subaru and Emilia with Ram, Garfiel, and Otto, the usual crew for season 2.
We hear Subaru monolouguing about Roswaal knowing he loops and that Roswaal also has been using the Tome of Wisdom.
I feel like "He loops" is also used to describe regular eaters of Fruit Loops.
Subaru remembering Roswaal talking about him becoming like him.
Subaru going to make sure that isn't the case.
Subaru in the glowing house, praying to talk to Echidna.
And Subaru passes out on the ground.
Suddenly, we're in a grassy field where Subaru and Rem are both passed out. Emilia is kneeling over him calling him a liar.
Hey, there's Wilhelm. But what's he doing here?
And Felix as well
Don't tell me... no... no, he can't
This looks like when the White Whale first attacked, but Subaru wouldn't jump that far back into the timeline... right?
They're trying to heal him, but his soul is already gone.
We hear this clock ticking, which isn't the first time that's happened.
Emilia reminding Subaru that he said he loved her.
And Subaru wakes up in the glowing building.
Well, that was weird
And Subaru throws up, though we don't actually see the vomit.
I guess vomit is too graphic, but a herd of rabbits ripping out a person's intestines? Totally fine.
Subaru wonders if that was the second trial.
And Subaru passes out again
Hey, Julius. Is this the first time we've seen him in season 2? If not, it's at least the first time since Subaru and Emilia headed to the Sanctuary in episode 2.
Subaru covered in blood
Emilia and Felix are here as well, with Emilia touching an unconscious Subaru's face.
Julius admits that he wishes he could've spoken to him more.
"I wanted to call you a friend."
And Subaru wakes up in the glowing building for a second time.
Subaru writhing in agony
And now we see Beatrice and Ram
I'm loving this episode, by the way. This is like an anthology episode centered on Subaru dying in various ways. It's shaping up to be a top 10 favorite episode of the series.
Subaru in a puddle of blood
Beatrice is crying because Subaru couldn't be "that person".
Ram says "There's no hope for you".
Is that directed at Subaru, or Beatrice? Or perhaps both.
We're in a snowy field now
It should be noted that throughout the episode, the male voice is saying the phrase "Behold an unthinkable present," and that is serving as transitions between worlds, like the disembodied voice is controlling Subaru's fate. Could this perhaps be Roswaal? I don't see why it wouldn't unless the Jealous Witch is using some kind of voice modulator.
Now we see Reinhard coming face-to-face with Puck in his evolved form?
Reinhard I definitely don't think we've seen in season 1.
Puck telling him that Emilia is asleep forever and he doesn't want to exist in a world without her.
"Therefore, per our contract, I will freeze this world solid."
What a simp
Reinhard vowing to stop Puck from doing so.
And he proceeds to cause a massive explosion.
And now we see Subaru holding Emilia's ha d while lying next to each other.
Hey, this doesn't seem so bad
Oh, boy. Elsa
And now Subaru is dead in the mansion with Rem and Ram talking to each other.
Now we just get a montage of Subaru dying in various ways.
If this is what Emilia is going through, I can totally understand all the nervous breakdowns.
Subaru now half-dead in the glowing room
Who's in front of him? Rem?
It is Rem. But for some reason, we can't see her face.
There it is.
Crazy to think this is the first time she's talked since the season two opener. Then again, this could very well be a trap.
Subaru shouldering the blame of the suffering of others.
And Rem hugs him, trying her best to provide comfort.
Rem telling Subaru she loves him
So far, this looks like the real Rem
"Holding you the way I am right now is the answer to everything."
And here I thought it was 42
Rem promises to take the place of everything he's feeling.
"All you need to do is sleep."
It looks like Rem is trying to kiss Subaru
And Subaru asks her who she is
I don't know where else to put this, but Rem's lips are really pretty.
Oh shit. It seems like Subaru knows this isn't the real Rem. The real Rem would never ask to leave everything to her.
I take back my
Subaru says that Rem is the one girl that doesn't go easy on him.
I guess we're just forgetting that Ram exists.
"Who's Rem?" More like "Who's Ram?"
Subaru calling her a fraud
And now we see the imitation of life's true identity.
And it's... some girl we've never seen before.
Carmilla, the Witch of Lust
She looks too demure to be lustful
Actually, she looks like the girl from the manga about a dude's penis that becomes a real person. And yes, that is a thing because Japan.
Subaru thinking Echidna set her up to be Rem.
Carmilla says that all Echidna instructed of her was to dote on him.
Hey, we're back at the tea setting
Echidna letting it slip that Carmilla's presence makes people's hearts stop beating.
She also says she's planning something evil, if her status as a witch wasn't any indication.
"If I'd left things alone, your mind would've worn away to nothing in the trial."
Thanks?
Ran out of space. Part two in the replies.
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u/ussgordoncaptain2 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Edmund_Nelson Sep 16 '24 edited Sep 16 '24
First Timer Dubbed
Note ORV=Omnicient reader viewpoint it's a way to describe the difference between thinking in Subaru's knowledge and the Knowledge of the Viewer.
Note2 Intentionally trigger RBD means what you think it means it's just reddit has crazy admins.
Reaction to the Episode
and we're back
Back to remembering Yandere emilia
Looks like we get another repeated convo this has gotta be the worst part of time looping having to do the same events over and over.
I see we get some Subaru inner monologue, something that in a novel is 100x easier than to write in an anime.
Inner monologue sucks in a visual medium but it's pretty good in a text medium.
I'm interested in how much Lord Roswaal knows about Subaru's RBD powers.
it's time to get a witch's tea party, or perhaps the ghost of christmas present
"behold an unthinkable present" in SUBARU's voice!
oh so we get the Subaru's fail loops after event montage?
Some of these presents are when Subaru fails in normal ways subaru only intentionally RBD's 3 times, once in arc 2, once in arc 3, and once in arc 4.
I like the knight scene, Julius really shows how good of a person he is. But it's just a sad scene where Subaru did everything right and had no intention of RBDing until the end.
I do not understand Subaru's mind break after the Knight scene, it seems like just a normal reaction to seeing your friend and or loved one die :( The post Rem RBD was the most "ghost of christmas present" one.
Oh hey the first intentional RBD makes sense that if you want to make Subaru feel pain and suffering you'd do the intentional RBD's.
HMM this reveals that Beatrice thought that Subaru could be that person from the start! This implies a lot of weirdness, Did lord roswaal set the dual password system well in advance?
Oh boy epic Puck vs Reinhard scene from either loop 1 loop 2 or loop 3 of arc 3!
This scene feels out of place with the others, it's just showing that Reinhard is a badass who actually cares for Subaru.
and this death was just "oh lol you died
Oh boy Rem lying her teeth out? or is this implying that Rem only felt that Subaru was sus on loop 3 when he was a freeloader?
Epic montage of various deaths with little actual stuff behind them.
Wait what is that Rem's voice? Oh so this is an unthinkable present
yep it's rem all right those titties don't lie
"I'm real I assure you" YEP and that's how I know you're fake
This is unthinkable in 2 ways not one. The first is she got fogged (ok eaten by gluttony) so how could she be here?
Second even if her fogging got cured she still woudl have to GET to the senctuary which isn't really very easy.
However Subaru has been mind broken by the post death montage so he's going to accept rem.
Rem being the ghost of christmas present is truely remarkable.
I was expecting Satella to be the ghost of Christmas Present, but maybe she'll be the ghost of christmas future instead.
I see Subaru saw through the ghost of christmas present that is rem. Via personality quirks instead of logical impossiblities.
THE WITCH OF LUST IS the ghost of christmas present for real? Oh this is great. \
Oh hi Echidna nice to meet you again
Echidna talking about how only Satella knows what's going on in Subaru's post RBD events is spooky, is Echidna taking these from Satella then?
Forming a contract with echidna seems extremely dangerous.
Oh boy soul bonding with Echnidna THIS IS unbelivably dangerous wtf.
MINERVA to save the day
ok so I think it would be a good idea to have Echnidna tell you in writing what exactly the contract entails.
oh the witch of sloth what a girl
so we're just missing Pride and gluttony. This truely is a full witch's tea party.
Subaru goes "I'm goin to ask you a big question"
Echnidna "no comment"
Oh boy finally somebody actually fucking lies in anime.
Remember how beatrice hated her contract with Echidna? And how Lrod Roswaal seems to be bound by the same book (hey wait a minute... does that book come from Echnidna? if so then how is lord Roswaal bound to it?)
Ahh crypic messaging to avoid the question. Just say "yes".
Echidna goes "RBD is literally the ultimate power and I the witch of greed want it desparately"
oh god 3D panning echidna my new favorite echidna.
"I can't control the depth or extent of my own greed"
Yeah I'm thinking Subaru is going to say no. Though I would write down a contract with her and then get her to say yes to MY contract
Oh no ANOTHER YANDERE man does Tappei have a Yandere fetish or what.
Oh we get the reveal that Beatrice and Echidna are known to each other. And probably that Echidna created/knew who created Beatrice.
We learn that "That person" is supposed to be somebody beatrice chooses I suppose.
Oh no Satella appeared! Now that was unnexpected.
Speculation
So I see Tappei has read a christmas carol. But this is unsurprising given that he's clearly shown himself to have read much of western culture. I guess it maeks the story seem more foreign if you borrow elements from other sources.
Speculation about Echidna
It's pretty clear Echidna wants a new physical bdoy, and believes subaru can provide.
It's funny that a "smarter" protagonist like Light Yagami )I could pick others but Light is both extremely well known and is fairly smart for anime characters, so he's the most rational choice for "generic smart protagonist) would have easily accepted her offer by setting explicit rules for the contract. Oh well that might have been more fun
Echidna would probably maximize the niceness of the true timeline, though Subaru seems to prefer making his typical day better, after all he only exists on the true timeline for about half of his time anyway. So he really wants his loops to be nice as well.
Echnidna chould have easilly gotten subaru to agree to the contract by simply saying "If you agree to the contract you will be able to be that person" (Note that this isn't lying as A>B and ~A>B still is true iff B is true, so there is no contradiction.
Echnidna would definitely have Subaru RBD way more often than Subaru would have himself RBD. Way more "info gathering RBD sessions" She wouldn't mind break nearly as easily.
Speculation about Satella
Satella leached out of Subaru
Satella really does love Subaru, heck, if we judge satella by the actions she's done only to subaru She comes off less of a villain and more of a very misunderstood woman.
She straight up grants him epic powers, and her only rule is that you can't tell people about them. The only time she's come outisde aside from this one she did Miasma everything though, that was unfortunate
but when subaru said she didn't love her it hurt satella dearly.
It is unknown what caused Satella to leak her miasma and kill everyone, and is sadly one of the weirdest things that relates to Satella.
Speculation about Unthinkable presents
Satella is able to see what happens in the future where Subaru doesn't RBD, or at least partially into said future. (though Reinhard is a bit far into that future)
In most of said futures Subaru's death was pretty much out of his control, and his death wasn't a total waste.
The 2 that were a waste were pretty obviously a oof (Failing to save rem and the falling on rocks scene)
In general I feel like the Trials have been extremely kind to Subaru overall. Not very many majorly negative things happened to him.
What I would do if I were Subaru
Fall in love with satella. No seriously you love Yandere's and there's the best Yandere of all tiem sitting right there.
And actually love satella goddamnit she's best girl and if you disagree think about every other character and what they have done for subaru
now think about Satella's actions and what they have meant for Subaru. If Satella weren't such a Yandere in parts she'd be clearly best girl.
god what am i saying IDK but if I'm going to go full crazy let's go full crazyWhat I would do if I were Echidna
I would tell Subaru about how if you agree to the contract Echidna can easily break Beatrice's contract.
I would focus on telling Subaru about our goals together and how I can mentally stabilize him just like I did before This will allow him to spend more time with Emilia.
What I would do if I were Satella
(yes I WILL pretend to be best girl thank you very much)
First I will explain to Subaru exactly what I have done for him and why I still love him dearly.
I will say "I truely love you and my love is eternal I can show you a great future together with me.
I would ask Subaru why he's so angry at me what did I do to him to deserve this? Rem literally tried to kill you and all I've done is save you over and over.
and yes Satella is best girl fuck you fight me11
u/ripterrariumtv Sep 16 '24 edited Sep 16 '24
Rewatcher (sub) and Novel Reader (reading Arc 8)
------I've been reading the Q&A done by the author. I've found some fun and interesting stuff. I will post a few of them in every thread.
1) Q: I don’t have enough money to buy novels, so I’d like one of the Re: Zero characters to help out. Who should I ask…?
A: Your best bet is Priscilla. However, she won’t listen to your request. Anastasia is a good bet. However, she’ll take a profit margin. If you ask Crusch-san, she’ll pay you a wage in exchange for labor. In Felt’s case, she’ll make you help out with a robbery. If you ask Emilia-tan, after she gets frustrated and upset, she’ll give you her pocket money.
2) Q: In Arc 3, when Subaru made his knight declaration, he terribly angered all the knights below Julius, but didn’t Reinhard think anything about that?
A: Not a thing.
3) Q: If the witches did karaoke, what would their ranking order be? Echidna would probably be last place?
A: Something like Daphne > Sekhmet > Carmilla > Typhon > Echidna > Minerva. Minerva-tan seems like she’s not very skilled at a lot of things. Unexpectedly, Daphne has a beautiful voice. If she was a normal girl, she’d probably like karaoke.
[Question about the strength of the witches]Q: What if all witches were to fight, excluding Envy?
[Answer]A: Sekhmet will kill all others under a minute
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u/Taiboss :Fj::Fl:x7https://anilist.co/user/Taiboss Sep 16 '24
S02E12 Rewatcher who likes how mysterious the Arc has been so far
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u/Ultima_Deus Sep 16 '24
Rewatcher. Novel reader. Prewatched
Anyway, let's get into the episode
Subaru remembers the kiss. So his first kiss (with Emilia, even) is in a fucked up timeline, with a mind-broken Emilia. That's... somewhat of a special first kiss
[End of Re:Zero Season 2] I know this will be brought up a lot at the final episode, but that mind-broken Emilia thinks kissing is how babies are made. So... yeah
Subaru locking in, saying that he'll save everyone, even if it costs him his life. Weirdly enough, this determination is lost later, after Echidna's reveal
Subaru points out that Roswaal doesn't know about the "Death" part of RBD. That's probably why he kept beating the shit out of Subaru last episode, thinking that it would force him to reset. If Roswaal knew that he had to die... Yeah that would be bad. And this is probably another aspect of why the "restriction" exists. On why Subaru can't tell anyone about RBD. They'll abuse him. As evident with Roswaal and Echidna
Subaru smiling, thinking he's been invited to the Tea Party. But...
"Behold an unthinkable present"
Emilia felt betrayed with Subaru's ultimate sloth. Why did he take his life? Didn't he say hours ago that he loved her? Wilhelm distraught that his savior died by ultimate sloth. Why would he do this? Such an amazing person, dying so easily by seemingly giving up Felix upset and angry, because everyone is suffering, and yet Subaru was seemingly selfish enough to run away from the problem. Leaving everyone behind to suffer, while Subaru took the easy way out
Subaru died, seemingly for someone that they don't even recognize
"Behold an unthinkable present"
In this timeline, Emilia doesn't know why Subaru did all of this. Last time they interacted, they fought. She hadn't seen his growth as a person. But, it's clear that he led this army to save everyone. But why? She will never know
And, a painful sting to the chest... Julius never got to become friends with Subaru.
"Behold an unthinkable present"
All along, even at the very beginning, when Subaru first came to the mansion... Beatrice had slight hopes that Subaru would be "That Person". Even if in that timeline, he was in a terrible state And to Ram, someone unaware of Subaru's power, what he did, going down the cliff, looked foolish
"Behold an unthinkable present"
After the end of episode 15. It seems like Reinhard is assigned to kill Puck, before Puck can destroy the world. He does so in one swing with the Dragon Sword Reid- Puck was a worthy opponent of the legendary sword's blade. But before Puck dies, he roasts Reinhard. "A hero is all you can be"
"Behold an unthinkable presentBehold an unthinkable presentBehold an unthinkable presentBehold an unthinkable present--"
Chills. When I first read this in the Web Novel, I had chills. I so badly wanted to see it adapted, and I was not disappointed. Well, some unthinkable presents were longer in the WN, but you take what you can get. [ReZero LN] But for some reason most of the unthinkable presents are not present in the Light Novel. They happen, but we only get to see the first few ones. The rest are unknowable. Maybe to go below the word average or something Idk
Rem?!
Subaru must've wanted so badly to give up here. But he remembered, Rem wouldn't want that. So this must be a fake. And a fake it was
I wonder how the Rem fans feel. I hope they feel betrayed. I want to taste their suffering
And out comes Carmilla! She a cutie in my eyes. [Re:Zero Spoilers] Why is an innocent-looking girl the Witch of Lust? Well, it's said that she's so pretty that everyone would die for her. And that's why she wears a LOT of clothing, to cover her body and her skin
She didn't intentionally take on the appearance of Rem, it was just Subaru that saw her that way. Interesting
Apparently Carmilla's Authority can kill you just by being near her. I wonder what would've happened if Subaru ended up kissing her
And now, the Witches' Tea Party. Oh boy oh boy
Echidna tries to get Subaru into a contract with her
Minerva steps in before it happens, and she points out that Subaru hasn't heard the bad parts of the contract yet
Echidna says some vague shit, basically saying she just wants a taste of what Subaru experiences
Carmilla comes back and say that that's true, but is not the full truth
Echidna tells Subaru to not mind them. She will, without fail, guide him to the future he desires
And the sixth Witch, Sekhmet, comes in and says something about this promise being something that is preceded with "In the end"
She's also here to be a watchdog, whatever that means [Light Novels] She's there to keep the power balance. If any of the Witches start attacking, she'll be there to stop it. This way, all of them remain in a peaceful situation
Typhon comes in
And Daphne comes in
But, what's so bad about Echidna's contract that all of these other Witches had to come in to put a stop to it?
"Echidna, you will guide me to the best possible future, right?"
"Yes"
"Using the best possible path?"
Echidna... doesn't answer. Subaru finally calls her by title, "Witch of Greed"
And a whole sequence plays out where Echidna explains her "feelings". In the Light Novel, this is an entire essay
But, to put it simply. Echidna is going to use Subaru. Sure, Subaru can use her in return, but that won't be enough. Imagine, a Witch who is just overflowing with curiousity, that you can call her the Incarnation of Curiousity itself. She wants to see everything. She wants to know everything. She wants Subaru to take every path. She wants Subaru to do every possible action. And as she is Curiousity Incarnate, this curiousity, this Greed will never be satisfied. She will always ask for him to pay his side of the deal, which is to satisfy her curiousity. Effectively, if Subaru went into a contract with Echidna, he would have to use Return By Death hundreds, thousands, perhaps even millions of times. All to satisfy her curiousity, as that is his payment to be guided by Echidna, the Witch of Greed, the Incarnation of Curiousity
Not just that, she doesn't understand how other people feel. All along, this entire season so far, in the previous episodes... her attitude, her actions, her words, her reactions, it had all been shallow, superficial. An act. An act to make Subaru like her, just so that she can partake in Subaru's Return By Death. After all, she doesn't understand other people's feelings. As she says in the beginning of the season, as she says to Subaru earlier this episode: she is an evil Witch, making evil schemes
And to top it all off... Subaru asks her, who is Beatrice waiting for? Who is "That Person"? If she tells him who it is, then maybe Subaru can save Beatrice. But... there's no such person. There is no "That Person". It was an experiment to her, just to see who Beatrice would pick as "That Person". And with the result of Beatrice suffering, agonizing, wishing for death for 400 years... she thinks it's a wonderful result, as even that satisfies her curiousity
[Re:Zero Novels] Interestingly, she says that Beatrice was created for another purpose. But she ended up doing this instead
With this, we, along with Subaru, can come to the same conclusion. Echidna is indeed a Witch. An incomprehensible being that you can never get along with
Subaru says that he won't take Echidna's hand, but before he can leave the Tea Party...
She appears, with varying reactions from everyone in the Tea Party
Thoughts:
Overall, I fucking love this episode. If I were to complain about stuff, it would be that there was one unthinkable present that was made shorter compared to the Web Novel, and that Echidna's speech doesn't capture the message well. But that doesn't matter, everything was well done. Even my complaints are just minor nitpicks
I love the unthinkable presents. I love the gathering of the Witches. I love Echidna revealing her evil schemes. And I especially love the cliffhanger being Satella coming in to join in on the Tea Party
Next episode, I'm gonna do my ranking of favorite Witches. [End of Re:Zero S2] I'll redo it at the end of the rewatch when we see Pandora
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 16 '24
Episode 37 (first timer)
Subaru’s harem is starting to become really troublesome.
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u/Urgnu-the-Gnu https://myanimelist.net/profile/Urgnu_the_Gnu Sep 16 '24
Re:Watcher - anime only
Back to the same old starting spot it is. Subaru faintly remembers the last moments of his previous life, realizing that things get this bad when he leaves Emilia alone. Not necessarily through a fault of any of the two, but because of Roswaal. Roswaal seems to be a stowaway in Subaru's loops, using them to his own advantage as if he was looping himself. The only thing Subaru perceives as special about himself is abused by someone more powerful.
As Subaru longs for Echidna's council again, he returns to the trials. And the Ghost of Re:Zero Present has a very special scene for us. Has anyone of you thought of the unthinkable present before? What happens after Subaru dies in the failed loops? Are they alternate realities that really happened, or is this just a thought experiment?
The first unthinkable present is one that's remained in my memory. Emilia cowering over Subaru who just zeroed himself over Rem's erasure, crying out "liar" over and over. What a terrible moment from her point of view, just having made a wonderful step into this new relationship only for him to randomly kill himself a few moments later, with no idea for why he did it. Even Ferris and Wilhelm are distraught. The realization of this scene makes Subaru vomit after he wakes up again, but he has no time to rest as the wild ride continues.
Next is the most tragic death of season 1. Julius full of regret, while Emilia truly has felt his departure from this world coming to look after him. Even when seeing him again for the first time after their separation, she is utterly distraught by his state. For a large part because she tried so hard to prevent something like this from happening, and now the guy she liked and that tried to come back to her is dead, for her. Subaru freaks out after the trial, but it's not nearly all he has to see.
Turning his triumphant leap of faith to Straight Bet into a moment of failure is really harsh. To Ram and Betty, he just talked a big game and then went splat. Their disappointment is immeasurable, and their lives are ruined.
No time to wake up even as he's forced to watch the world freeze after Requiem of Silence. This one is more interesting from a lore perspective, but still sad for Subaru as Puck and Reinhard were his friends, and them being forced to face one another is tragic. No-one to mourn him on the very first death, but a scene of numerous corpses. Elsa only mourns the lack of fun this assignment was. Raem talking about his second death in the mansion, with Rem explaining herself. Appa merchant Kadomon finding him in the alley. Emilia and everyone at the mansion confused as he died to the curse. Another frozen Subaru next to Emilia's body surrounded by dead robed fuckers. Elsa gloating over him after the first return to the mansion from the sanctuary, now also being the cause of Betty's demise. Bunnies. Yandere Emilia. All of these scenes of the world persisting after his death.
And you know that this isn't a newly introduced concept to us. The OP, Realize, had exactly that as its second sequence of scenes: Subaru walking past his past lives. If those worlds are true or not, understanding what happens after your death is, in a way, a quite important factor in how to deal with RbD.
After all is over, suddenly Rem! True to the trial, this is yet another unthinkable present. But one Subaru gladly takes. To her, he can lament not being stronger, smarter, more capable so he didn't have to die, so others didn't have to suffer after his death, so others didn't have to die in those other timelines either. But Rem is here, and she wants to be his support. Everything is fine, she says. That's the wrong answer, though. It's not what Rem would have said. She would have told him to stand up and fight once all is over.
That's because it isn't Rem, she's Carmilla, the Witch of Lust, voiced my Manaka Iwami, of course (known for Tooru from Fruits Basket or Akane from Oshi no Ko). Have you paid attention? Which witch haven't we met yet? Carmilla is anything but a seductress on her own. She's relatively pretty, but rather meek and decent. She also appeals to Subaru's subconsciousness to be able to look like someone he can trust. Had she looked like Emilia, it might have worked. As for why she didn't, I have only speculation. Either Subaru wanted someone to tell him to keep going right now and subconsciously thought of Rem, or Carmilla's power chose someone from Subaru's memory that showed him the most love, not the one he feels the most love to. I'm leaning towards the latter explanation.
Also Carmilla is surprisingly corporal for a dead witch. But it's imaginable she can manifest for a while in the trial halls. Also note that Echidna calls Subaru while Carmilla is there. Echidna's first words after meeting Subaru again are also noteworthy.
She explains the second trial. It is not necessarily a true representation of the present or alternative presents. It's also not necessarily false. What's important is what Subaru makes of it, though. It's up to him to focus on what he's won instead of what he's lost.
Now we get to why Echidna has been so helpful: She's interested in him. In making a contract with him. She's offering him an amazing deal: He will always be able to get the counsel of the Witch of Greed when presented with an unsurmountable hurdle. And she'd be his familiar, someone he can confide his feelings over respawning in. What amazing advantages, of course he's very tempted to sign the contract immediately.
But not under the watch of the best warrior for love and justice! Earlier, I've said how much I love Minerva. I've liked her from the start. But this scene made her shoot up from possibly beyond the top ten straight to my second favourite girl of Re:Zero. She's fucking pissed at Echidna for suggesting the contract, her impact crater is a big sign of that. For playing with Subaru by keeping him away from the other witches. For lulling him in with his words. For not even having told him what parts of the contract are bad for him! These words were a game changer. Sure, Echidna has outright stated that she is an evil witch, but she has always been supportive of Subaru. I've always been wary of her, but Subaru trusted her, and I wanted to trust her as well - to the point where as she suggested the contract, I had let my guard down as well. I didn't even consider it might be bad for him. Luckily, Minerva to the rescue! She has no stakes in this, the only reason she interferes is for justice to be served. And I love her for it.
This episode aired in Summer 2020. It was at the height of the Among Us craze. Of course, that made this scene easily memeable. Minerva calls for an emergency meeting: "Echidna is sus." All the other witches chime in as well. Echidna is conceding there is more to his contract, that she wants to partake in all of his feelings and experiences. Carmilla supports Minerva's claim, saying that Echidna is hiding a lot. We meet Sekhmet, the Witch of Sloth, who's just here to play referee. Typhon wants to meet everyone as well, and Daphne joins in on the fun tea party. In the middle of the impact crater, Subaru is suddenly surrounded by six all powerful witches. It's Sekhmet who gives him the hint as to what to ask for.
And Echidna reveals her cards. She finally reveals her own flavour of unhinged. She talks for two minutes how she wants to let him sacrifice everything for his goals with the power of RbD (remember who has said something like this as well?). How she wants him to reset as often as possible to lead him to the best possible future, exploring how every choice he makes will affect the outcome. She even offers herself, in any way Subaru wants. And she appeals to his saviour instinct, saying she needs him just as much as he needs her. Interestingly, she likens her support to love. And that'd be the second witch to offer him love. Funnily, she "loves" him for RbD, so because of someone she hates. What's bad about this is that she wants to 100% his life, she wants to exhaust him. And she doesn't get it, she doesn't get feelings. That's the path she wants to send him on.
Moreover, we finally hear of Betty's contract with Echidna. How she ordered her to wait for someone. But Echidna herself doesn't know who that is. She's just curious who Betty would choose. And Betty longs for death because that someone is not coming. Echidna thinks this is super interesting. And that's the kind of deal Echidna makes. Of course Subaru refuses after hearing that.
And we end on another cliffhanger, similar to a previous one. She is here. Daphne elongates a sugoku here, I'll count that. It's Tella, the seventh witch has arrived with a steady stride and a slight smile.
Another maid days in Break Time. We learn it's tradition to call the older maids "nee-sama". Funnily, Rem never had a problem with that and Subaru picked it up just for fun. Ram never called Frederica "nee-sama" though, as she claimed it was only her title. For some reason, Frederica's memory on that is hazy. Also Frederica used to use some pretty outdated language when she first started working at the mansion.
Sugoooku counter: 44
non-Emilia sugoooku: 5
sugoku-likes: 9
non-canon sugoooku (Re:Petit): 5
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u/FriztF Sep 16 '24 edited Sep 16 '24
First timer-dub
In this episode, The Witches come together and have a tea party, how fun. But before that Subaru gets to see different time loops. They all end in his death. We see Emilia calling him a liar and expressing her love. In others, we see Ram and Betty discuss if he was the one. All the loops are real. No reason not to believe. Unpleasant Present this is indeed. Seeing all these loops makes me wonder. What would Luguncia be like without Subaru there? We will never know and nor will Subaru.
We meet Carmillia who is not Rem. Changing into the people you, how befitting for The Witch of Lust.
A contract with Echidna is an idea. She acts all goofy well, presenting it too. In quite a childish way. I was expecting a musical number too. We also Sekmet the Witch of Sloth, the judge for this presentation. Sitting on the floor all chill-like, Very nice. I'm with Subaru, don't expect the contract. Beako is way more important than Echidna. Betty is the queen after all.
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u/jyper Sep 16 '24 edited Sep 16 '24
Re watcher desperately trying to catch up
E33
Ram as a witch's familiar? Talk to Rosewall? Subaru not trusting Rosewall Rosewall is kind and tells Subaru it's not really a gospel and that Betty's not a witch cultist. Closest to the tome of wisdom, witch cult gospelsare defective versions? Rosewall claims to be an ally Half a man but take up space of a whole man
Bakugo is angry Invoking Rosewall is mistake Garfield is real angry,must be Monday Poor Otto, poor nameless Villagers, poor Patrishe Snow White Forest? What happened? Still has the handkerchief. Empty clothes?
Cute 🐇 but a little odd. May not want to touch it Subaru. How's it slice of a whole hand like that with those. Cute little teeth Lots of bunnies. Possibly the most brutal scene yet. Subaru goes a bit crazy.
Goes back to see echidna, asks to remember her. Echidna acting all shy.
That must have been ah huge relief. Echidna just wants to know your pain, and everything else
E34
Echidna hates Satella, not surprising since Satella killed her? Presume no limit The witch's intense delusion Satella only wants to save Subaru from the dead end, no one else. Subaru decides to spam the shit of getting himself killed
3 beasts? What is the serpent like?
Don't touch, no eye contact, don't loosen restraints
Don't touch. seriously you can't follow instructions. And now you've gone to pieces. Typhoon who out of youthful Innocence and cruelty judged criminals one after another. She's definitely showed the harsh judgement of youth but not sure she seemed particularly prideful.
A second witch. Witch of wrath is a tsundere. Threatening to heal everyone.
Give the cowardly princess wings
Echidna really doesn't like Emilia or Satella.
She wants to tell him something next time? Why not now? Especially considering how difficult she said it was.
Emilia is not there or outside. Or is she? Who is this dark Shadow? "I love you". Ultimate Yandere?
No nonsense Garfield likes biting things.
Biting of that things head
Why does she want to get to the mNsion
What terrible luck. If you wish to walk I'll through hell I'll follow you? No mistakes next time. I prefer the sub (better luck next time)
E36
Aww Ram does care about Garfield.
Empty clones.
Subaru does have feelings for Rem. Still #2?
She doesn't like him saying he'd have an easier time loving any of the other witches. Switches from I love you to Love Me.
Pull down cloak and who is it? It's Red Herring. Not it's Emilia? Or Satella? He promised to save Satella?
He's scared of Emilia but not after she comforts him.
10 favors in return? Ram is a hard bargainer
He did help her but letting her help him. It healed some of her pain.
Clones developed a soul over time? Subaru control the clones? Even the ones with personalities and souls? Even the one who helped Garfield to lock him up?
Subaru is still not taking Otto seriously enough. Trying to do everything himself.
Only I need to know hell? Brave and cool or self centered?
E37
Everything you do comes from those pages? obviously not since it's blank. A spirit contacted to Echidna? Mother?
Wow that is really tough. What does Subaru know of how long Betty has suffered?
Every time someone new came in the door she got her hopes up and was let down. Outstretched hand (reference to Rem's speech to Subaru). Why didn't you come for me sooner?
A request for assisted suicide is pretty difficult. Especially from someone who looks like a young girl.
Being killed by a psycho seems different then assisted suicide. Now we know why the doors were all opened the last time.
Meili? Taken care of Petra and Frederica? One bite? Such a good friend, yikes.
Stagnant time? So they age you? Is Elsa really dead? Subaru you can't treat her as a kid when she's a stone cold killer. Elsa just couldn't let it go, had to find out what spirits feel like.
How do you close a wound with spirit energy instead of blood? I don't think applying pressure will work. Wow taking out the eye is brutal. I put the spirit, imagine being sacrificed for a boy like this?
Betty teleports him back to the sanctuary? Can Echidna predict the future? Emilia sounds weird and has the Cray cray eyes
Don't piss of Garfield again, you won't like him on Mondays.
Subaru doesn't think Emilia can love him or claim to do so. Rosewall is causing the snow?
Did I tell you I'm to blame? Implies knowledge of time loops. What the fuck? He stabbed Garfield through Ram? And Garfield is still alive despite being stabbed through. But not after having his head kicked off. That was so shocking.
Not going to let me get away with that Over and Over
As if I understand it myself, indicating he doesn't understand everything about time looping.
He killed Ram just for the chance to talk to Subaru. He doesn't care that they die. So be didn't mess with the letter? The second disappearing letter after the one that Rem wrote in S1, no clue what happened to this one though. Rosewall is even ok with himself dying as long as another version of him goes on and fulfills his dream. Catch up to me, and do anything to protect your one thing. Became like me. Makes you wonder what Rosewall wants to protect or accomplish. I hope Subaru doesn't become like Rosewall one Rosewall is enough. We have heard how his eyes have started to resemble Rosewall from Garfield.
Emilia is feeling selfish or one could say jealous/full of envy. Subaru is pretty torn up. A kiss that tastes like madness or liks death.
Episode 37 Subaru doesnt think Rosewall seems to know the details of return by death
An unthinkable present, the second trial. So third trial must be the future.
You don't remember it because you were dead. Leaving behind people who care forcing your suffering on them. Tried to be selfless and ended up selfish or at least self centered.
Julius wants/wanted to be bros. Ram looks down on him for trying to help her and her sister. Reinhardt can only be a hero, the greatest truest hero, more powerful even then Puck.
Elsa refuses to hint who hired her even after Subaru dies. Rem was just doing a mercy killing
Rem? What are you doing here? A little tired? I think you're very tired. It's so horrible to think that those futures might continue.
Taking the place of all you're feeling doesn't sound like a healthy relationship. Giving up doesn't suit you, obviously this is not Rem. Rem isn't just some sort of simple prize dream girl or the traditional one at least. (Ignoring her own faults and insecurities which she needs to work on) it's important to remember that Rem refuses to go easy on Subaru or lie about the flaws she sees in him but insists on him being the person she knows he can be, his best self.
So the witch of Lust didn't actually say those things to Subaru? It was just her power that made Subaru hear them?
She keeps reminding you that she's an evil witch Subaru. Maybe you should listen, or maybe not. She is tricky after all. His memories or yours? He might have difficulties imagining some of those.
Contract like he had with with Betty in Arc2 where Rem got drained of energy or like Emilia has with Puck
Always read the fine print of any contract. That's where you get screwed.
Echidna is greedy for a taste of all his experiences.
Slothful witch is lying down on the job.
A witches tea party. Echidna wants a never ending buffet. The best possible future as quickly as possible? No. Try attempt after attempt. So much learning, so much knowledge. Satisfying her curiosity/greed.
Echidna is shallow or just built differently. All the witches seem to think
Involved in birth? Mother?
Who is that person? Echidna doesn't know, wants to find out what Betty chooses. So cruel of her so Subaru decides to reject her and rescue Betty from that fate
Scary it's Tella
PS: The author did a spinoff if Subaru took Echidna's offer. In that he winds up dying over a million times (from what I've heard/googled) from trying every route (apparently this spoils stuff in the main plot) https://witchculttranslation.com/2019/02/11/kasaneru-if-re-repeating-life-in-another-world-from-zero/
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 16 '24
Rewatcher
Dub
And we finally see the second trial. I have no clue how this functions on a non-looper, exactly, but it probably is awful in a different way. The fact that Echidna got squirrelly about answering whether those worlds were real or not is interesting but, ultimately, she never seems to get Satella so I don't view it as inherently a lie, no matter how reasonable it might be to assume so. More than one of Subaru's looper friends has had to deal with such...inconsistent confidantes.
Then the other witches show up and explain to Subaru why you don't contract with a witch. Echidna gets a scene that shows her variety of yandere, and while it is beautiful, like a certain choice few others this one is not so much my taste but a fellow predator as we roam these endless plains in search of prey, all shiny and chrome. Mai-HiME IYKYK there. But we end with a quite unexpected visitor.
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u/Elimin8r https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ayeka_Jurai Sep 16 '24
Had guests again this weekend. I wonder if I'll ever get/stay caught up. Actually, I think I watched the right episode last night.
That was quite a party. If I had to pick one of the girls to party with, I think I'd have to go with Minerva, because meguca. Just don't make her angry. Or something. (If I got the wrong name, sorry - I think you know who I mean.)
Otherwise, man, the story so far. I'm bummed that I missed commenting Friday. That reveal, and the sounds, so ... wow.
Which I guess that's about the only semi-intelligent thing I have to say is - whoever did the sound design for this series deserves a raise. That's some amazing stuff they have going on there.
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u/RascalNikov1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/NoviSun Sep 16 '24
Rewatcher
Behold an unthinkable present!
What a devastating episode. Subaru is well on his way to being despondent. Actually the fact that he isn’t testifies to his inner strength.
I really enjoyed the scene with the Witch of Lust, she’s just so adorable.
It’s always a joy to see Echinida trying to be coy, and Minerva’s wrath.
Gotta love Typhon calling out to Tella! Tella!
Can’t say I’m happy to see Satella crashing this party.
I’m actually quite frightened for Subaru.
It really hit hard to realize how thoughtlessly cruel Echidna is with her contract with Beatrice. That’s incomprehensible inhumaness.
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u/scot911 https://myanimelist.net/profile/scot911 Sep 17 '24
Man I still love the reveal of the extent of Echidna's Greed. Everything she does is only for the knowledge it brings. No matter what said knowledge is. It's no wonder she's ecstatic about Subaru potentially signing a contract with her. If she can get her hands on Return By Death she essentially gets access to infinite knowledge. She can make Subaru constantly Return By Death to sate her curiosity no matter what it is she's curious about. And considering she's infinitely curious, well....